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I am unsure if this should be included: Ramesses the Great was a superb self-promoter. Does anyone have any opinions on that? Nuretok ( talk) 18:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
The first paragraph under "Early Life" says Ramesses II's father (Seti I) made him (R2) Prince Regent. This is a misuse of the term. It is the father who should be referred to as Prince Regent, ruling in place of the son (therightful monarch) while the son (R2) was still a boy. 2603:8000:D300:33A0:E16D:68CB:F904:23DD ( talk) 06:56, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
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Add under the "building projects and monuments" section in a bullet point that "Ramses II expanded gold mining operations in Akuyati (modern day Wadi Allaqi)"
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Cosmic Nudibranch ( talk) 00:59, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Cosmic Nudibranch
The photo of Ramesseum is incorrect. It shows the temple built by Ramesses III in Medinet Habu. Lifter67 ( talk) 15:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Surely this basic data is essential?
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In April, User:Temerarius captioned a photo of the mummy with a brief mention of the claim that it was issued a passport when it was taken to France ( [1]). He did include a cite, although to a podcast without a timestamp. For the sake of being thorough, I listened to the whole thing. Unhappily, it contained not one mention of mummies, passports, or any combination thereof.
I’ve removed the passport claim.
The archived talk page has a detailed discussion of this, but briefly: A user added the passport claim in 2006 ( [2]) without a cite. It stayed there until 2019, never having acquired a reliable source, despite various “verification needed” tags. At that time, after doing some research, I removed it: the claim is ludicrous, wasn’t mentioned in any of the contemporaneous news articles, and isn’t present on e.g. the French-language version of the page. Unfortunately, since 2006, the claim has spread across the internet via citogenesis.
I thought it worthwhile to add this talk page section to mention this brief clip from a 2023 BBC HistoryExtra podcast interview with Toby Wilkinson. He’s a bona fide Egyptologist and author of a Ramesses biography, who calls the passport claim “nonsense”. Flamerule ( talk) 00:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
In 1975, Maurice Bucaille, a French doctor studying his remains said that the mummy was threatened by fungus and needed urgent treatment to prevent total decay. French laws dictated that entry and transportation through the country required a valid passport. To comply with local laws, the Egyptian government issued a passport to the Pharaoh.
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I am unsure if this should be included: Ramesses the Great was a superb self-promoter. Does anyone have any opinions on that? Nuretok ( talk) 18:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
The first paragraph under "Early Life" says Ramesses II's father (Seti I) made him (R2) Prince Regent. This is a misuse of the term. It is the father who should be referred to as Prince Regent, ruling in place of the son (therightful monarch) while the son (R2) was still a boy. 2603:8000:D300:33A0:E16D:68CB:F904:23DD ( talk) 06:56, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
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Add under the "building projects and monuments" section in a bullet point that "Ramses II expanded gold mining operations in Akuyati (modern day Wadi Allaqi)"
Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).Kitchen, Kitchen (1982). Pharaoh Triumphant. Teddington House, Warminster, Wiltshire: Arts and Phillips Ltd,. pp. 49, 50.
ISBN
0 85668 215 2.{{
cite book}}
: CS1 maint: extra punctuation (
link)
Cosmic Nudibranch ( talk) 00:59, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Cosmic Nudibranch
The photo of Ramesseum is incorrect. It shows the temple built by Ramesses III in Medinet Habu. Lifter67 ( talk) 15:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Surely this basic data is essential?
Ramesses II in hieroglyphs | |
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92.15.223.1 ( talk) 17:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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In April, User:Temerarius captioned a photo of the mummy with a brief mention of the claim that it was issued a passport when it was taken to France ( [1]). He did include a cite, although to a podcast without a timestamp. For the sake of being thorough, I listened to the whole thing. Unhappily, it contained not one mention of mummies, passports, or any combination thereof.
I’ve removed the passport claim.
The archived talk page has a detailed discussion of this, but briefly: A user added the passport claim in 2006 ( [2]) without a cite. It stayed there until 2019, never having acquired a reliable source, despite various “verification needed” tags. At that time, after doing some research, I removed it: the claim is ludicrous, wasn’t mentioned in any of the contemporaneous news articles, and isn’t present on e.g. the French-language version of the page. Unfortunately, since 2006, the claim has spread across the internet via citogenesis.
I thought it worthwhile to add this talk page section to mention this brief clip from a 2023 BBC HistoryExtra podcast interview with Toby Wilkinson. He’s a bona fide Egyptologist and author of a Ramesses biography, who calls the passport claim “nonsense”. Flamerule ( talk) 00:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
In 1975, Maurice Bucaille, a French doctor studying his remains said that the mummy was threatened by fungus and needed urgent treatment to prevent total decay. French laws dictated that entry and transportation through the country required a valid passport. To comply with local laws, the Egyptian government issued a passport to the Pharaoh.