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Why was the external http://www.rajeshkhanna.net removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.73 ( talk) 01:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello - I have recently begun helping Shrik88music in a mentorship arrangement and am trying to encourage him to make better use of article talk pages. As I've browsed through the article history here I've seen most of the discussion happening in edit summaries. As I am encouraging Shrik88music to use talk pages to discuss reverts or contentious edits, I would ask other editors participating here to do the same. — e. ripley\ talk 19:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
all references i have provided below specially for u.You keep talking of having seen some references have been not proper etc.... Why do u claim before checking refernces properly ....now incorporate them again in the article the references which i have provided Shrik88music ( talk) 14:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
live in relationships were not practiced in India in that period.anju mahendru was his girlfriend since 1966.But their relationship ended in 1972.they were in this boyfriend girlfriend relationship for 7 years.change the sentence again properly.For she being called girlfriend or saying that they were dating each-other you may provide the following reference http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2003/05/30/stories/2003053001200100.htm and http://www.rediff.com/movies/2003/jan/16bolly.htm.They were madly in love with eachother but she never appreciated khanna for his performances.The world was after khanna and khanna was after anju. for your satisfaction - http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050304/asp/etc/story_4440550.asp Khanna dumped her so it was written that they drifted apart. anju had affair with Gary Sobers after her breakup with Khanna. Shrik88music ( talk) 14:55, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
i dont have a problem in you saying they lived in together but they did drift apart or not??? "Khanna and designer Anju Mahendru lived together for several years"-- whats this???? they were together in a relationship only for 7 years. mention that she was a fashion designer. thier realtion ship ended in 1972. so now u may provide it in your own scenetnce. Shrik88music ( talk) 15:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
as far as anju is concerned i dont want to include any information furthur. they were in relationship as boy friend girlfriend for 7 years and then they broke up in 1972.after 17 years they started speaking and then again became friends.this much does ur article contain u may check
Shrik88music (
talk) 17:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I have again reverted the lead section to content that more appropriately follows our guidelines for the lead. WP:LEAD
The first sentance should summarize the subject of the article - Khanna was an actor and a politician.
The remainder of the lead should give a brief overview of the subject:
The fact that "he was affectionately known" is barely encyclopedic content and should be kept for fanpage profiles, but not encyclopedia. Active Banana (bananaphone 20:27, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
affectionately called -- this word is also mentioned in the book -- the reference of which i have given.please go through the version i contributed! iam amused as to why for such silly things references are needed! anyways i have provieded the reference of a book.Its a fact that he is called as RK and Kaka by his fans and costars!
as far as Punjabi boy is concerned it only means a boy speaking Punjabi -- who was Ravi Kapoor! Shrik88music ( talk) 20:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
but the truth is fans call him RK or kaka both but his relatives and cosstars from film industry have named him as Kaka! can u give me some suitable alternative scentences for writing that scentence? Shrik88music ( talk) 21:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
mr.banana u just go through refrences already provided!! plus read them http://www.google.co.in/search?tbs=bks:1&tbo=1&q=KAKA+RAJESH+KHANNA&btnG=Search+Books http://www.screenindia.com/old/fullstory.php?content_id=7148 Shrik88music ( talk) 21:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
nickname is not the perfect word actually.he is called as Kaka out of respect.in a biography facts needs to presented.activebanana there are many articles where u can contribute too.even here i find that u just do not try to find better sources for the article i provide. i very well know that what i write are facts and in addition i do provide many refernces which are not in violation of wikipedia! if at all u find any references needs to be changed u can change but y do u remove the facts bluntly? if u find any spelling error,grmatical error or if u feel the senetnce can b better represented u r free to do. but asking too many silly questions is foolish! rajesh khanna is a superstar and there are many many interviews of historians, ediotrs,filmstars,producers,directors and other articles ,books etc... Shrik88music ( talk) 21:20, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
if the tone needs to be changed u may do so but remove such comments like the artcile may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards...as people are ready to improve the article but u shoudl cooperate in a beter manner! Do not remove Facts in any case! Shrik88music ( talk) 21:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Attempt to explain the difference: If I found a reliable source that said his favorite ice cream was pink bubble gum, even though it is a fact in a reliable source it is not worthy of inclusion in the article. If i found a reliable source that said his favorite ice cream was pink bubble gum and that is why he titled the first script he wrote Pink Bubblegum Ice Cream, then that would be worthy of including in the article. If I found a reliable source that said he was O+ blood type, that would not be worthy of including in an encyclopedia article even though it is a fact in a reliable source. If however, he became involved in a campaign encouraging other "Universal donors" of blood type O+ to give blood, then it would be worthy of including in the article. Someones nicknames, simply because they exist and can be documented fall in the first category of "so what" and should not be included in an encyclopedia even though they may be sourced in a reliable source. Active Banana (bananaphone
both of u r not getting the point. the blood group ,favorite bubble gum , favourite color,hobbies etc.. these things are DEFINITELY IRRELAVANT but the things which have been contributed by me are all very very significant.Kaka - this word is a Punjabi word.He is called as Kaka or Rk by people of India.thats a fact and i dont think it should be put into category of "Simply because there is a fact that can be verified does not mean that it should be included in an article". the things i have spoken about ie. him travelling in MG car in struggling days , him being called as Kaka are all very much relevant.Also i have not put something which is absoluely of no importance!!India is a developing country and had so many poor people and many actors have had rag to riches kind of lifes ie they struggled hard in thier childhood coming from poor family etc.... but rajesh khanna was son of rich man and so could afford to travel in MG car around theatres for work in films and in addition his family had no connections with film industry and he became interested in acting in films in spite of being rich...these things were much talked about things especially in seventies i started editing this article only coz before i edited this artcile most of the IMPORTANT and Relevant things were not present in the article. i myself compare and debate with myself whether this fact is worth to be mentioned? Shrik88music ( talk) 17:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
iam claiming???? oh my god am i claiming or providing facts with verifiable references? ohh its better u do proper research before blaming or accusing me of just claiming things as being facts...all of them are very much verifiable and i have provided references. now its time to move ahead and add the other informations in future.whatever is present in the article is very much important Shrik88music ( talk) 18:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
what i have provided till now they cannot be counted as coming under the category of " "Simply because there is a fact that can be verified does not mean that it should be included in an article"" as they are all very very much relevant.... madonna example was a good one and i already know that. i provide only those information which are not only verifiable facts but also are facts of the kind which needs to be mentioned in such a wikipedia which is a long term project Shrik88music ( talk) 14:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Great super star Rajesh Khanna was born in Bhuray Wala Punjab (British India) now Pakistan, this information should be added in Wikipidia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.218.216 ( talk) 00:02, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
some of the users are just without properly goin through the references given are deleting the artcile about khanna.the article put in wikipedia is very much relaible as sources are the reputed newspapers,interviews,film magazines,books etc.. Its rediculous to even dispute Khanna's superstar status in India. when there is reference to prove his achievements in his career then there shouldn't be unnecessary editing that too in a way that many FACTS are removed Shrik88music ( talk) 20:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
the refernces and the information i have provided about khanna's adult life,school,college,struggle in a car etc are not just other information!
i wont add any information which is irrelavant and iam adding only those information which is known since ages!
there are litle more things which are to be added but first let this much information remain undisputed!
Shrik88music (
talk) 21:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Now AB has task of now resurrecting the artcile properly as he has been provoided with all the necessary links . please ask him to now remove his comments - citation needed and replace them with the links i have given.You can also go through the links. Shrik88music ( talk) 15:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
first of all i have proved ur claims as wrong ie. they are dead links and that citation needed. whatever reference i have given that u need to incorporate. as u are disrespecting the actor by putting such comments.there are many readers who may read the artcile which is at present looking dirty with such comments.i have provided all the refernces u asked for. why are u now finding it difficult in putting together all the information i gave?its very easy to remove sentences but difficult to provide facts.u have provided comments in early life and adult life section and that needs to be removed first.this is matter of principle i mean basic ethics!! Shrik88music ( talk) 17:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
that job u r not doing properly!! u r going against basic ethics!! u made statements like none of ur sources are relaible, provide me links, all are dead links, citations are needed etc..very confidently thinking i wouldnt have the proper sources. now i have done what u asked for. incorporate them before asking for more from other sections. u need not advice me on whether i should write on some fan site. u r proving that u r here not to fruitfully contribute to the artcile. thinking that u may b having serious intentions of frutfullty contributing i gave u all the refernces u asked for. the replies i sent u contained everything -- replies to all questions u asked Shrik88music ( talk) 17:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
just because something is presented as having been in a source it does NOT mean that it needs to be included in the article. - this statement of urs just doesnt make any sense. all new refernces provided...i wont get repetative like u.iam not biased like u infact. Shrik88music ( talk) 18:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
in short even after u receive the replies to ur comments u wont incorporate the needed changes properly!!! Shrik88music ( talk) 18:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
E Ripley for ur convinience please go thru the section "Excessive number of dead links - impossible to verify content under WP:BLP" and All India Contest. Ripley AB is not here to contribute to the artcile effectively otherwise why would he have not incorporated the facts which he had asked for immediately in the same way he would hve deleted scenences or made comments like citatios needs, ref needed etc.. i provided him the refernces but today full day he has not incorporated tem into the article. Shrik88music ( talk) 18:50, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
surprising e ripley again u r giving piece of advice. from the discussions as laid below i think u shud b able to observe that i have provided him all the explanations which he had asked for. but throught the day he has noit bothered to make the changes to the artcile. so i by myself made those changes. infact its double work for me and waste of my time. i gave him reply first then later on saw he didnt make achanges and then he also says he wont make those useful changes ...its then that i put up that version which is authentic. am i working for AB? AB is engaging in edit war but by making refernces to wiki policies is covering up himself!iam imrovising the artcile daily.. Shrik88music ( talk) 20:29, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
use liitle bit comman sense too. word to word same things need not be copied from some article.the meaning should be the same in the artcile.in our own words v do can write summarising the point. dont bluff here.u keep reverting ...i know u r not going to FRUITFULLY CONTRIBUTE. u will neither find sources urself nor incorporate facts needed to be mentioned. u will only point the negetives ( even if there are not any)20:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC) Shrik88music ( talk)
The tone in entirely gossip magazine profile and not encyclopedic - the phrase " Punjabi boy " has no place in an encyclopedia. Active Banana (bananaphone
thats what has been done. present article states that ravi kapoor was another Punjabi speaking boy living in the same locality became friends with Khanna.Now they are pouplar by the names Rajesh and Jeetendra.i think now in such things we should not drag it furthur as references have been provided.no changes are necessary to the present article. infact new informations need to be added Shrik88music ( talk) 18:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC).
Its not AB who modified it to Punjabi speaking boy.It was me who changed it to Punjabi speaking boy.credit should go to me..... u may check the edits if u want to ! i will be happy only when the unnecessary edits and deletions are not made! do check before giving credits! this wa the version made by me where the phrase appears for the first time
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rajesh_Khanna&oldid=387797283
Shrik88music (
talk) 13:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
In attempting to verify the content of the article an amazing percentage sources have turned out to be dead links. Can you Shrik88music re-search and add the appropirate live links or actual citations or else you will need to remove content about affairs etc. that will fail the WP:V requirement for contentious material about living people. Active Banana (bananaphone 20:48, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
There were no dead links found by me .just check the following links by yourself 1)one change in the article mentioned by you - Anju Mahendroo was a FASHION designer. 2) http://chatinterviews.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1258826.cms -- this interview is itself enough for three lines lines "Khanna attended St. Sebastian’s Goan High School in Girgaum, along with his friend Ravi Kapoor, who later took the stage name of Jeetendra.Their mothers were both keertan pals." and "When Jeetendra went for his first film audition it was Khanna, who tutored him."
3) http://www.rediff.com/%0Amovies/2002/sep/13dinesh.htm - reference for "Later Khanna married Dimple Kapadia in 1973 and has two daughters from the marriage." 4) http://movies.ndtv.com/PhotoDetail.aspx?Page=5&ID=6523 - ndtv is news channel of India similar to bbc - The couple separated in 1984, as his schedule kept him away much of the time and Dimple became interested in pursuing an acting career.
5) http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Rajesh-Dimple-Complicated/articleshow/6541166.cms for "Following a few years of separation, the relationship between Kapadia and Khanna blossomed and remained that of close friends."
6) http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/specials/slideshows/80s/tinamunim.htm - it mentions tina munim was romantically involved with khanna and reason for sepeartion was that she decided to leave film industry in 1987 to pursue higher studies abroad. ie for " In the eighties Tina Munim was romantically invloved with Khanna till the time she decided to leave the industry"
7) http://www.expressindia.com/news/election/fullestory.php?type=ei&content_id=30722 for "heir elder daughter Twinkle Khanna, an interior decorator and also a former Hindi film actress, is married to actor Akshay Kumar." Shrik88music ( talk) 13:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
The climax to this 1965 Filmfare show show was the introduction of the Filmfare–United Producers Talent Contest. The eight chosen ones, shortlisted from more than 10,000 star aspirants walked out of life-sized gift boxes. Amongst these eight were Rajesh Khanna, Subhash Ghai and Farida Jalal. Now you know where such stars were discovered. On our very own Filmfare stage. http://www.filmfare.com/articles/terrific-25-15-770.html
this link says that Rajesh Khanna was among the eight finalists selected from ten thousand ones. But AB is not mentioning that Rajesh Khanna won that Conetest as can be seen from the following links http://www.screenindia.com/news/The-original-superstar/327356/ in the finals. and http://entertainment.in.msn.com/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=4155691&page=3.
the para goes “Rajesh Khanna won our United Producers’ acting competition. I was making another film at the time and my friend G.P.Sippy gave him a break with Raaz. But it was only after Aradhana that he became a superstar. He was a naturally good actor. Even during the competition, he had spoken his lines so well. His strength was how he understood a character in a script."
AB now add them as refernces and re write the scenetnce as " Rajesh Khanna was one of eight finalists in the 1965 All India Talent Contest organised by United Producers and Filmfare from more than ten thousand contestants.He won All India Talent Contest by board of jury such as Guru Datta, Bimal Roy, G.P.Sippy, B.R.Chopra and Shakti Smanta."
for name of judges refer this site - http://www.hindilyrics.net/profiles/rajesh-khanna.html Shrik88music ( talk) 15:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
For convenience and to help this go a little more smoothly, I'll get the discussion started about the "All India Contest" line.
Shrik's preferred version is:
He won All India Talent Contest [1] which was judged by directors like Guru Datta, Bimal Roy, G.P.Sippy, B.R.Chopra and Shakti Samanta [2] [3].
AB has removed that sentence and the references.
My opinion is that the MSN link could be considered reliable. I'm not sure about the Screen India link, it appears to be an entertainment news site; it seems to have at least some professional oversight but I'll leave that to others to judge. In any case, it does not say anything about who the judges were at the All India Talent Contest, so it can't be used to source who judged it (though, it could be used to source that he won the contest). Hindilyrics.net is not a reliable source. — e. ripley\ talk 19:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
http://www.hindilyrics.net/profiles/rajesh-khanna.html - it does mention who were the judges and in addition samanta's interview does prove samanta nad GP Sippy were judges. e ripley dont get trapped into AB 's comments.He is not that inncocent. see the link. hindilyrics is a site containing all bollywood songs. how does that become irrleaible? if he is not confident of ther names then he needs to provide the names of GP Sippy and Shakti Samanta as its clearly visible ( source is very much relaible too). Shrik88music ( talk) 20:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
i have pro actively replied to this question already. see this link http://www.screenindia.com/news/The-original-superstar/327356/ -- samanta says he, sippy were judges ..atleast their names must be mentioned for now. plus what about other informations which he was not incorporating --- i directly made the changes and put them in order.also there is something called as information which is not available online. In India online sources began obly from year 2000. when already sippy and samanta names r available then i need to provide only links for fact that datta, bimal roy were also in panel right? then if that minutely , u need refrence then leave those names but show Samanta and G.P.Sippy's name. many information is not available inline as khanna was active from 1966-1991 and computer started to be used in India extensively only from 2000. Shrik88music ( talk) 20:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
still u did get it! read this para Shakti Samanta about Khanna He should come back to films!' “He was a good actor and a good-hearted man. But after he made a name for himself, he shifted a bit from his goodness! He joined politics and left movies. I wish he would come back and concentrate on films.”Rajesh Khanna won our United Producers’ acting competition. I was making another film at the time and my friend G.P.Sippy gave him a break with Raaz" --- United Prducers -- that included Shakti Smanta , G.P Sippy.... Shrik88music ( talk) 20:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
nopes his prduction company was not United Prducers. It was Samanta Enterprises ie Shakti Films!!!! - proof http://www.screenindia.com/news/Reinventing-itself/396722/ http://www.screenindia.com/story.php?id=396722&pg=-1
GP Sippy , Bimal Roy,Samanta, Subbu Rao,BR Chopra were running this United Producers competition. u have interpreted wrongly the sentence. that senetnce which i showed u only has one meaning ie. sippy and he were judges of United Prducers acting competition. Shrik88music ( talk) 21:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
http://www.screenindia.com/old/20010216/cover.htm - says Rajesh Khanna was under a contract with the United Producers and so available to us. http://www.screenindia.com/old/20020322/ftribute.html says - The film was realistic, a complete departure from the films that I had made till then, and remains my only film where I did not offer pure entertainment. G.P. Sippy and I were the first to sign Rajesh Khanna, who had won the Filmfare-United Producers’ Talent Contest. Shrik88music ( talk) 21:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
i have given the reasons for y its not easily available online. plus everything need not be available online in a ready-made manner. Samanta and GP Sippy were part of United Producers this can be understood by that samanta's interview where he says OUR Acting Competition. try to interpret the sentence.Samanta's production house is separate , GP Sippy's production house is separate etc...
by the way u r very much interested in arguing about this as sources are not available directly but what about others which have not been incorporated inspite of refernces where directly everything is available???? Shrik88music ( talk) 21:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
judges were being mentioned because the judges got chance to direct films starring Khanna.he had blockbusters in line from Aradhana.prize won by khanna was a film with each of the judges. these judges subsequently became his directors.khanna was unknown name at that time and after Aradhana even these producers benifitted. interview clearly states United Producers - consisted of Samanta , SGP Sippy atleast-- if noone then Samanta 's name atleast should appear as being in that panel of judges of the contest. Shrik88music ( talk) 21:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
given the number of times that I have seen that the content that you want to add to the article does not accurately reflect what the source actually says - thius claim of urs have always proved wrong.....number of times???? all the reaplies to ur commets like citation needed and dead links i have already given ----- that proves u failed to get get access to the links properly and after seeing tghe links u were unable to understand the inner meaning of all the information have provided!!! Shrik88music ( talk) 05:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Sources do not need to be available online -- this is first point 2)but they do need to specifically be able to verify the content in the article --this even i know very well - all readers will be able to understand through the references that the line written in wiki is the summary of the info written in the link given.there need not be direct references. this reply applies to early life as well as the contest. 3)there can be some lines for which no reference is provided only cause even though they are facts , unfortunately no online source is available!! 4)who r u to decided whether its believable or not! e ripley says i have to assume that a person like u is working in good faith !!!! the present references and the words inserted by me in article is LOGICAL. Shrik88music ( talk) 05:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
This article or section appears to have been copied and pasted from a source, possibly in violation of a copyright. - fantastic reason!!! u either ask me for references or ask for the same word to appear in the reference !!! references are provided openly to prove that the sentence written in the article is a fact. it's a proof. there need not be same word used in the link given . also when sentence is framed in our own words , considering the info given in the link u have raised hue and cry. U R NOT IMPROVING THE ARTICLE IN NAY WAY. also in adult life section references provided by u are not proper -- provide them---"but did not complete the divorce proceedings". It's written blossomed coz Dimple has accepted in that screen article they are friends,they attend parties together. anyway, provide the link properly!!! Shrik88music ( talk) 16:42, 3 October 2010 (UTC). 68.193.2.168 ( talk) 14:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
"but did not complete the divorce proceedings" - provide proper reference for this sentence. Shrik88music ( talk) 17:22, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
u add it later. i will make the needed chages. but y now u have put that maintainace tag and copyright tag unnecessarily when if at all there is chance of violation u can easily change the wordings but without compromising on the info provided? remove those tags and replace them if there is some violation or if u can add beter wordings Shrik88music ( talk) 17:46, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
the actress too refused to sign the divorce papers - these line from link http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Rajesh-Dimple-Complicated/articleshow/6541166.cms Shrik88music ( talk) 17:51, 3 October 2010 (UTC) "new paragraph for new topic"-- whats this???? the first para is looking really bad coz of the space between the lines.His nicknames and he was politicain that should appear with the other lines in irtoduction para. Kaka is his name - there is nothing to discuss on that matter. infact the discussion is irrelavnt! Shrik88music ( talk) 19:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
In English, when you start a new idea you start a new paragraph.
We have the lead sentence which gives an overview of the subject of the article.
Then we have a new paragraph on a new topic: the acting awards he has won.
Then we have a new paragraph on a new topic: his political career. This has nothing to do with his acting awards mentioned earlier and so goes into a new paragraph.
Then we have the random statement about his nicknames which you keep stating are important and need to be kept but never provide any sources to show why other than your claim that they are important. Active Banana (bananaphone 19:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
the info obtained from the below links are valid. http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2003/04/18/stories/2003041800080100.htm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13056306/10-Most-Romantic-Screencouples-of-All-Time
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13056306/10-Most-Romantic-Screencouples-of-All-Time
y whats the issue??? i have added whats written in the source.this info is vital.
In the eighties, he formed popular on-screen pairs with Shabana Azmi, Smita Patil and Poonam Dhillon.---its written very clearly in
http://entertainment.in.msn.com/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=4155691&page=6
i think those who are reverting are doing it purposely..
Quicklight (
talk) 16:40, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
here lies the point. khanna has acted with many heroines like zarina wahab , moon moon sen , deepika , neelam , jayaprada , sadhana, nanda etc.. and has given hits too as per box office records. but the the entertainment one artcile by itself is mentioning in particular the names of Poonam, Tina Munim , Mumtaz , Sharmila ,Asha Parekh ,Hema Malini ,Smita and Shabana -- was that khanna had established a hit pair with them ensuring that they did diverse films of different genres crime , mystery , social , political , horror, actions , romantic films together.
he costarred for that matter with many heroines and has given hits with them too.so its vital to get the point right. at your convenience it cannot be said that "he costarred" - when even the line in reference says popular onscreen pairs".
i do understand the need to be neutral but the fact is -- its directly mentioned and accepted fact in indian film industry that khanna formed a hit pair with these actresses in particular. Quicklight ( talk) 17:34, 21 November 2010 (UTC) his pairing with -- Poonam, Tina Munim , Mumtaz , Sharmila ,Asha Parekh ,Hema Malini ,Smita and Shabana -- resulted in huge hits. he formed hit pairs with them. to solve the copyright issue i request the above editors to incorporate the info which i pasted, in their own words. but by just mentioning he costarred its just not done. fact needs to be mentioned - that he formed hit pair with them . Quicklight ( talk) 17:40, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
He appeared in many romantic and social melodramas, costarring with Sharmila Tagore, Asha Parekh, Mumtaz, Hema Malini and Tina Munim in films from a range of different genres. While Khandra also starred together with many other actresses, these pairings proved to be particularly popular with the audiences, and were referred to as "hit pairings" [insert reference here]. In the 1980s, he starred in films together with Shabana Azmi, Smita Patil and Poonam Dhillon, which resulted in equally popular on-screen pairs. [insert reference here]
I've removed this content, as some of it was copied from external sources. Even the proposed modification was unusable. (cf. [2]) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:16, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Quicklight ( talk) 14:44, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
quicklight u are going through same problem which i have been going through.the problem is most of the editors are not indians and they dont know anything about hindi films.
i always keep saying the same thing that instaed of reverting an artcile why not improve the artcile?
if at all there was copyright violation instaed of saying words like you would be blocked etc... softly they could have said that they want to revert it and want to discuss in talk page .
also when its clear that according to wiki policy the sentences needs to be modified and not directly copy pasted...ie if we want to borrow more than 1 line then we have to modify ,they could have easily made ---iam referring to the para of sharmila-rajesh khanna which you wanted to inroduce.
e ripley , moongirl,hebrides - these three are very helpful and they would definitely help u in solving the wiki related problems but genaic would never rectify the mistakes pertaining to removal of facts made by her. many a times i have explained that since india became online only after 2000 and khanna's rule is from 1969-1991 sometimes sources are not possible. but you will find that i have always provided informations with the necessary links. carry on your with your noble work Shrik88music ( talk) 21:39, 22 November 2010 (UTC) bonadea is also helpful with respect to correcting grammatical mistakes but she also some times...i am sure unknowingly reverts articles especially those which i have contributed to. Shrik88music ( talk) 21:41, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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intros are provided in many artciles espcially of any film star , so if anywhere with references, intro is given , then it does not amount to wastage of information. eg - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahrukh_Khan, ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aamir_khan, even amitabh bachchan. Wantnovels ( talk) 18:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
I created this sub-heading and added a sentence with a proper citation.
I don't know why the heading as well as the content has been removed.
Sachi bbsr ( talk) 03:28, 25 June 2012 (UTC) TRIVIA : Rajesh Khanna was separated from his wife Dimple Kapadia in 1982 itself. But, the write-up in the Template below his photograph indicates as " 1984. " 68.193.2.168 ( talk) 13:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC) In the main article too, under the sub-title ' Adult Life, ' it has been written that Khanna and Dimple Kapadia got separated in 1984. That was the year when Dimple had resumed her acting career in films, they were actually separated in 1982 itself. 68.193.2.168 ( talk) 14:26, 18 July 2012 (UTC) For information on this issue, the Wikipedia article on Dimple Kapadia biography may be seen. 68.193.2.168 ( talk) 14:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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Rajesh Khanna passed away http://www.asia-pacific-news.net/2012/07/bollywoods-first-superstar-rajesh.html 101.210.206.38 ( talk) 08:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I would like to request the Wikipedians to make a list of movies of this Superstar and add to this page. Guitaristrock ( talk) 17:02, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks !!! Guitaristrock ( talk) 13:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
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Rajesh Khanna was Born in Burewala, Punjab Pakistan. His Father was First Head Master of M.C.School Burewala. He retired on March, 1947 and went to Amrister with his family. Rajesh Khanna studied class-1 in the same school where his father was Head Master.
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I would like to request the Wikipedians to correct the real name of Rajesh Khanna as born to Jatin Arora and not Jatin Khanna. He was born Jatin Arora, and then he was raised by foster parents who were Khannas, and hence he was named Jatin Khanna.
Ravi Matah ( talk) 19:27, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
In the later career section it needs to be mentioned that Riyasat is the last movie of Rajesh Khanna and he shot for it untill 6 days before he fell ill and shooting had begun in 2011. Riyast will release on Dec 28, 2012. Reference is http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Rajesh-Khannas-last-film-to-be-released-in-December/articleshow/15052167.cms. After Riyasat gets released in 2012, he would have appeared in exact 164 feature films, 107 as the solo lead hero. So changes have to be made. Onceshook1 ( talk) 05:00, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
The section is nothing but a collection of eulogies. I suggest that we remove it completely or curtail it. Thoughts? -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:13, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Anita Advani was removed from the article saying "Anita Advani only claims to be live in partner and has filed a notice claiming to be same to get property. But its not truth til court decides". But newspaper references say that she was Khanna's partner, not that she claims to be his partner. The court will only decide about the property she claims.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 14:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Anita Advani only claims to be a live in partner of Rajesh Khanna, after his death. Otherwise she always maintained she was a freind. Till the verdict of court is out, here in wiki we cannot consider her as a partner of Khanna. She has claimed in the legal notice sent to family members of Khanna, only to claim his property. So her name should be removed from main box as well as from Relationships section. Onceshook1 ( talk) 10:17, 22 July 2012 (UTC)Till now there is no proof of that she was really a live in partner of Khanna. Untill court verdict is out that she was in real a live in partner , wiki should not declare her to be partner. References http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-21/news-interviews/32776430_1_rajesh-khanna-anita-advani-legal-notice and http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Tabloid/Rajesh-Khanna-s-live-in-partner-sends-legal-notice/Article1-892614.aspx Onceshook1 ( talk) 10:21, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
There is a clarification tag put up in the lead section. The editor which has put up that tag should mention here why he has put up, else I am going to remove it. The citation has reference for the same text.Regards, theTigerKing 15:54, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
A film which runs in theaters across India for more than 25 weeks but less than 50 weeks is a silver jubliee Hit and the film which runs for more than 50 weeks and above in every theater across India is a Golden Jubilee Hit. Onceshook1 ( talk) 10:03, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Terms have been explained in talk page twice by two different people. Okay right now I have explained the terms in brackets.Now you may remove the notification of clarification needed. Onceshook1 ( talk) 06:21, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
I plan to nominate the article for GA. The article needs attention on following issues(many of them are not related with GA):
Regards, theTigerKing 17:13, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
No tweet can be found on Amitabh Bachchan's twitter account. Which means he has deleted it and thus we can say that he too doesn't stand by it. He was told by someone that those were his last words so there is no certainty that the man is saying the truth. Boseritwik ( talk) July 22, 2012 01:19 (UTC)
The tweet in Amitabh's account is still there. https://twitter.com/SrBachchan is the account of Bachchan and tweet reads "his last words were 'time up ho gaya - pack up !!'" Onceshook1 ( talk) 10:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)Moreover there are more references of last words of Rajesh Khanna - http://ibnlive.in.com/news/rajesh-khannas-last-words-were-pack-up/272201-8-66.html Onceshook1 ( talk) 10:13, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
He also did some playback singing in movies like Baharon Ke Sapne, Safar, Shehzade, Amar Prem, Daag, Prem Nagar, Ajnabee and flm souten. Reference - http://www.worldlatesttrends.com/2012/07/rajesh-khanna-hindi-film-career.html and IMDB of each of these films. Onceshook1 ( talk) 15:34, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Imdb also credits Khanna for singing the songs in above films.And even from the video of these particular songs its clear that Khanna does sing or mouths dialogues during the song. Onceshook1 ( talk) 12:21, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
The way Khanna recites dialogues in the song Haan Toh Main Kya from Raja Rani, the same way he recites in songs like - Nadiya Chale Chale Re Dhara from Safar, Ek Ajnbee Hasina Se from Ajnabee, O Mere Sajna O Mere Balma from Baharoan Ke Sapne,Ek Maumma Hai from Premnagar, Shayad Meri Shaadi Ka Khayal from Souten. He was officially credited in song albums only in two songs - Haan Toh Main Kya from Raja Rani, Pushpaa I Hate Tears from Amar Prem and Main Toh Kuch Bhi Nahi from Daag. But if video and song sare heard from the CD's , it can be easily understood that Khanna recites dilaogues in between - in case of these songs. Onceshook1 ( talk) 16:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/celebrity/rajesh-khanna-was-suffering-from-cancer-for-the-past-one-year_115624.htm and http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/news/2012/rajesh-khanna-last-wish-097591.html It s clear from these artiles that Khanna died of cancer and that though he and his family members knew he was ill a year ago, Khanna had insisted that the news of him being ill and having cancer need not be divulged to the public till after his death. Mumtaz, his close freind and co-star makes it clear in the artcile - http://www.indianexpress.com/news/rajesh-khanna-was-very-close-to-me-mumtaz/976166/ and http://www.filmitadka.in/201207192481/news/mumtaz-and-sharmila-tagore-share-rajesh-khanna-memories.html that Khanna was suffering from cancer and had met him a month before his death. Onceshook1 ( talk) 16:32, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Mumtaz has made it clear and read the 4 artciles i have given above. It was cancer due to which he became slim from 2011-2012. Onceshook1 ( talk) 17:45, 24 July 2012 (UTC) Another refernce says he died of cancer. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Demand-grows-for-Rajesh-Khanna-DVDs/articleshow/15170006.cms. Its hightime that wiki artcile is corrected and its mentioned that Khanna died of Cancer. Onceshook1 ( talk) 12:44, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
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I want to correct some edition in this biography of Rajesh Khanna. You have mentioned the birth place of Rajesh Khanna as "Amritsar, India" which is incorrect. Actual Birth place of Rajesh Khanna is "Burewala, Pakistan". Please find below link by "The Indian Express" which proves the birthplace of Late Mr. Khanna:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/for-kaka-from-pakistan/977275/ http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Residents-of-Pakistan-town-condole-Khannas-death/articleshow/15101019.cms http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-59469-Rajesh-Khanna-was-born-in-Burewala http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_pakistan-s-burewala-city-mourns-rajesh-khanna-s-death_1717111
I hope above links would help you to believe that Late Mr. Rajesh Khanna was born on 29th December 1942 in Burewala, Pakistan. Also, I would like to mention here that Mr. Rajesh Khanna's real father name. Rajesh Khanna's father, Lala Hiranand Khanna, was the first headmaster of MC School, Burewala, who got retired on in March 1947. Later in 1948, Hiranand Khanna migrated along with family to Amritsar following the partition of the sub-continent. Umermalhi ( talk) 20:56, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Khanna was born in Amritsar only. Every Indian media says its Amritsar. Khanna's father migrated from Pakistan before Partition and settled in Gali Tiwarian in the city of Amritsar in 1940. Khanan was born in Amnritsar in 1942 and soon after his parents died. Later he was adopted by Chunnilal Khanna's family. Onceshook1 ( talk) 17:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
This news article http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=59469 claims that Khanna's actual birthplace is Burewala (Pakistan), not Amritsar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.240.125.119 ( talk) 20:58, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Khanna was born in Amritsar only. Every Indian media says its Amritsar. Khanna's father migrated from Pakistan before Partition and settled in Gali Tiwarian in the city of Amritsar. Khanan was born in Amnritsar in 1942 and soon after his parents died. He was adopted by Chunnilal Khanna's family.The family did have an ancestral house even in Burewala as his biological dad worked in school in Pakistan. Onceshook1 ( talk) 08:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
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Khanna attended Hill Grange High School, Mumbai, in years 1958-59.
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The editing should be made to the following page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajesh_Khanna
Here the line, "After being critical illness, Khanna died on 18 July 2012", is grammatically incorrect and is also void of an important fact that should be mentioned. The line should be changed to, "After being critically ill, Khanna died of cancer on 18 July 2012".
Mr.bhasin ( talk) 19:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Going to be add last message of MR.Khanna soon. - 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 16:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Following information needs to be incorporated 1) Rajesh Khanna's father, Lala Hiranand Khanna was working as the headmaster of MC School, Burewala near Faisalabad in Pakistan in the 1930's till his death. 2) Khanna's ancestral house built in 1935, is still located in located in H-block on Delhi-Multan Road and is named as 'Jatin Bhawan'. 3) But Rajesh Khnana is born in Amrisar only as per Indian Media as his parents' hometown was Amritsar and only for work purposes his father had another ancestral house in Burewala Pakistan.
References - http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/07/19/truth-revealed-rajesh-khanna-was-born-in-pakistan/#.UCqOClaPWDs Onceshook1 ( talk) 08:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Adequate references available online proving following 2 facts 1 Rajesh khanna did 106 solo hero films. 2) Secondly he holds record for being the actor from hindi films with most number of solo hero films. ( which is 106) 3) He was awarded filmfare special award in 1991 for his record of most number of solo hero films till 1991 in compariso. To all other male actors of hindi films and also for completing this feat within 25 years since his debut.
4) his record of doing most number of solo hero films in hindi is a standing record, which is yet to be broken. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rajesh_Khanna&diff=574028870&oldid=574028356 The version which appeared a hour ago was correct information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.76.121.83 ( talk) 13:56, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
The below link is more specific saying by 2011 he held record of most number of solo hero hind:i films and least number of multi star - 22. Here is the link http://www.theothernews.in/specialcoverage/77-news/8722-anand-marte-nahin.html Below link http://radio2fun.com/news/?p=2264 http://radio2fun.com/news/?p=2264— Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.138.125.99 ( talk • contribs) 13:56, 23 September, 2013 (UTC)
The current version makes for confused reading. It does not mention properly 2 things that he continues to hold record for doing most number of solo hero hindi films (106 films). and that he was given award in 1991 for not just completing 25 years but also for doing most number of solo hero movies just in span of 25 years in comparison to all Hindi actors who acted since 1913 to 1991. His tally of solo hero was just 101 in 1991. That filmfare special award was also given since he did least number of two hero films. and radio2fun article reference also says so. Then see Now references you need to find as you are removing them though its mentioned in references given.
Other references include http://www.movieplus.com/article-details/10-best-performances-of-rajesh-khanna-807/ and http://www.theothernews.in/specialcoverage/77-news/8722-anand-marte-nahin.html and radio2fun site too.
I agree with above points. Seriously too many references prove the point. http://www.theothernews.in/specialcoverage/77-news/8722-anand-marte-nahin.html says directly - Khanna was awarded a Filmfare Special Award in 1991 for having starred in 101 films as the solo lead hero and just 21 two hero films in a short span of 25 years. By 2011, he held record for actor with most number of authors backed lead hero films — 106 solo hero films and only 22 two hero films.
http://www.movieplus.com/article-details/10-best-performances-of-rajesh-khanna-807/ says - Rajesh Khanna holds the distinction of acting in the largest number of solo-hero Hindi movies. 120.138.125.99 ( talk) 13:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
The references do meet the wikipedia standards. different users in wikipedia have provided you links in this matter. more importantly - all the sources - be it magazines/newspapers/websites -have different authors and are not fan sites. Correction is required - only to convey 3 things - 1) his record of doing 106 solo hero films is a standing record - till date and is yet to be broken by any actor in Hindi films 2) this record applies only to Hindi films and not to films of other languages. 3) when he was awarded in 1991 - with special award he had done 101 solo hero films and only 21 multi-hero films. for this record he was given this award. 120.138.125.44 ( talk) 09:49, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Using words proclamation by you would not make the facts untrue!! they are not proclamation . Go through newspaper articles, websites of news channels and online books then. Why don't you search when you deny the above real facts so easily. why are you adamant in accepting your errors? Go through the below links http://books.google.co.in/books?id=vS9FGUgL0HQC&pg=PT31&dq=rajesh+khanna+solo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bWdEUvazIceLtAafmYG4Ag&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=rajesh%20khanna%20solo&f=false - it says Filmafre special award was given in 1991 for acting in 101 solo hero films till 1991.
http://www.gffn.org/awards.html http://www.indiasite.com/Personalities/Rajesh-Khanna#sthash.Ofwx9bCw.dpuf - By 2011, he held record for maximum number of films as the solo lead hero and least number of multi star cast films in Hindi Cinema. http://www.theothernews.in/specialcoverage/77-news/8722-anand-marte-nahin.html - By 2011, he held record for actor with most number of authors backed lead hero films — 106 solo hero films and only 22 two hero films
http://www.movieplus.com/article-details/10-best-performances-of-rajesh-khanna-807/ - Rajesh Khanna holds the distinction of acting in the largest number of solo-hero Hindi movies http://www.mensxp.com/entertainment/bollywood/8831-10-actors-who-changed-indian-filmmaking-forever.html - He also holds the record for the maximum number of films as the solo lead hero and least number of multi-star cast films.
Only small modification needed to those 2 sentences. 183.87.84.86 ( talk) 18:09, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
People easily remove sentences from the article and do not reply when errors are pointed out showing they are committing blunders. Reply to above detailed comment with references - which show solo hero film record continues to be held by rajesh khanna till date. http://newindianexpress.com/entertainment/hindi/A-phenomenon-called-Rajesh-Khanna/2013/07/18/article1688431.ece says why he was called the phenomenon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.66.60.50 ( talk) 07:30, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Have modified. 1.187.33.131 ( talk) 08:08, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Seems bonadea and Redpenofdoom - both of you have got confused. There are 3 separate records - 1) 15 consecutive solo hits (which is rightly mentioned) 2) 101 solo hero films till 1991 and 22 two hero films till 1991 -for which he was awarded the filmfare special award.(again wiki does mention it but only partly. Some one removed the information that he did least number of multi hero films till 1991) 3) the solo hero films he did till the time of his death is the maximum by any actor in Hindi films and the 22 mulkti star films he did is the least by any actor from Hindi films. (only in Hindi films as there are actors in Tamil and Malayalam films who may or may not have done more than 106 solo hero films)
Right now the only mistake which seems to be pointed out again and again - is about this 3rd record and the second part of 2nd record - present article does not mention that Khanna continues to hold record (even after his death) - the record for doing maximum solo lead hero films than any male actor from Hindi films in 100 years of Indian cinema from 1913-2013 and also that he did least number of multi hero films.(till date) and at the time of his death he had done 106 solo hero films Bowsarrown ( talk) 14:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
The reason I say you are confused is simple - these records are not some fun stuff or folktales or trivia. all 3 are 3 different records. award sections are different and introduction para is different. Just see articles on yash chopra or ranbir kapoor or rajnikanth and others where we can see that - in these articles information does get repeated and are filled with many trivia but here in the rajesh khanna artcile, only certain records (these 3) are mentioned to justify the titles he is bestowed with and the popularity he enjoyed. Any how now article looks proper.
Still there is one missing information like he has done least number of multi hero films which is 23.( from 1966 to his death in 2012) - i think this should get added with the line saying he not only holds record for being only Hindi actor with most solo hero movies but also has done least number of two hero films. Bowsarrown ( talk) 18:26, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Not really. already explained the reason how its not trivia as far as rajesh khanna article is concerned. I would like to add - these articles are neither promotional. he has already died and no promotion is needed and his body of work is too large. i do agree there are many wikipedia on many actors where the lines are actually written to promote the actor and create an aura about him. these are done for actors who are currently working - like i said yesterday just see madhuri dixit or ranbir kapoor or anil kapoor or rajnikant or amitabh bachchan article. When you read them you can see this is fluff and meant for celebrity magazines.I feel these Wikipedia articles are written and edited by their PRO and those articles need a rework by people like you or any administrator. Bowsarrown ( talk) 04:38, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Every source says the same thing that he had 15 successive solo hits from 1969-1971. So there is no issue. 1) http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/rajesh-khanna-the-superstar-who-could-not-handle-success-381803.html
2) http://www.rediff.com/movies/slide-show/slide-show-1-10-facts-about-rajesh-khanna/20120718.htm#1
3) http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-19/news-interviews/32731341_1_rajesh-khanna-consecutive-solo-superhits-record-in-indian-film 120.138.125.137 ( talk) 07:31, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
I've semiprotected the article owing to IP socking from one of the regulars here. If this increases on the talk page this will also have to be semiprotected. Editors in good standing are of course free to revert my revert of the sock. — Spaceman Spiff 11:07, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Good that article is semi protected. But sadly spacemantiff and bonadea insert a better source as truth is 15 consecutive solo hits came from 1969 to 1971. That ip address may have not provided nice source but correction was rightly made. 15 Consecutive solo hits were only from aradhana released in 1969 to haathi mere saathi released in 1971. Meeshaiomeeshai ( talk) 13:28, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
The fact is Rajesh Khanna's Phenomenal Period was in between 1969 to 1972, though he remained superstar till 1974.Also He had never given 15 consecutive hits as stated, I have done keen research on Rajesh Khanna from National Film Archieve of India, Pune, Where I found Rajesh Khanna gave 15 Superhit films till 1972.So please give correct information to people.( talk)
You have given totally wrong information on Rajesh Khanna page...Rajesh Khanna had a phenomenal period from 1969 to 1972 instead of 1971...Apna desh was his 15th super hit film. Rajesh never gave 15 consecutive hits..try to understand or please do your self research.I have done an authentic research on Rajesh Khanna.Rajesh Khanna was a Superstar from 1969 to 1974 Period in which his phenomenal period was 1969 to 1972. Please do not shortened it to 1971. He had a major 3 hits in 1972 and they were Dushman, Amar Prem And Apna Desh. in 1971 He had 2 flops which were Mehboob ki Mehendi and Chhoti Bahu then how could he delivered 15 consecutive hits??? Infact Mehboob ki Mehendi was released just before the Film Anand. Lots of information I have found out from National Film Archive of India which is in Pune. Please do search it in proper way and give information to the world. Thank you.( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:54, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
The achievements section - http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-07-19/news/32747291_1_rajesh-khanna-ads-emami - answers all queries of atul. 1) chronologically 15 consecutive solo hero films released between 1969-71 were box office hits. Infact reality is he had 17 consecutive hits from 1969-1971, but 2 of them were multi hero films - Maryada and Andaz, hene its said he gave 15 consecutive solo hero hits. Then his next a special appearance in Badnaam Farishte in 1971 and solo release Maalik (1972) flopped, hence the record stopped. But again he had 11 consecutive solo hero hits from 1972-73 - in 1972 - Amar Prem, Shehezada, Joroo Ka Ghulam,Mere Jeevan Saathi,Dil Daulat Duniya, Bawarchi, and Apna Desh, Anuraag.In 1973, again he continued to have hits - Daag, Banagru Babu(spl app), Raja Rani, Namak Haraam.But his next release in 1974 - Humshakal flopped and again he had 5 consecutive hits in 1974 - Prem Nagar, Aap Ki Kasam, Ajanabee, Avishkaar and Roti and then one more in 1975 - Prem Kahani and then his next release Akraman became a flop.
2) The achievement section also point out why Filmfare special award was given to him in 1991 - it was for starring in most solo hero films in Hindi Cinema - 101 films withing 25 years.
3)The achievement section points out - the number of silver , golden jubilee hits he had. Ayirathil ( talk) 20:09, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
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Ok PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 15:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
I just want to say that this phrase is in no sense promotional or puffery andif we do not use it how will it convey to the viewers that the record is still not broken. 2ndly Have u ever seen articles of other actors like Amitabh Bachchan? It is almost impossible to find out simple and encyclopedic information as it mostly contains over exaggerated phrases trying to prove him a god which is totally wrong but the phrase we are discussing about is just a simple phrase which is trying to give the sentence a complete meaning while making it informative and conceptualising that this record is not broken. 3rdly It is a record as it is given in numerous articles on the web and also mentioned in the 3 citations. 4thly this phrase was there in the article long before I ever made my first edit. You can ask @fylindfotberserk And this particular phrase only helped me know and made me aware that oh! this record is still no broken At last please keep this phrase as it helps in conceptualising and is in no way promotional as compared to any other article on wikipedia. Thankyou PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 17:22, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Isnt it necessary for us to give complete knowlege about anything we write so that people dont mis interpret it. Therefore if we are telling about his 15 consecutive hits, we should give a complete info that this is not broken by anyone till now with regards to Wikipedia rules and guidelines. PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 11:13, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
2ndly how to reply below the post? PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 11:14, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
@ PrinceAnand2003: Texts like "record still unbroken" is best be avoided in an Encyclopedia article even if sourced, since it ventures into WP:PEACOCK category. Besides you are supposed to discuss after getting reverted the first time as per WP:BRD. - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 17:11, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Again,pardon me for disturbing you two expert editors. PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 20:07, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
It is Important to tell the viewers that his record is still not broken so that the viewers do not misconceptualise this and i am not using the word still as per MOS:REALTIME And talking about puffery and promotional phrase, this in no sense is promotional as compared to other actors articles such as amitabh bachchan etc: Before correcting this phrase which in no way is promotional but a authentic valid fact, correct those articles so that editors like you dont look biased PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 10:27, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
"It is Important to tell the viewers that his record is still not broken"How do we know it is still not broken? The article cited was written in 2012.
"this phrase which in no way is promotional but a authentic valid fact,"No, it's an opinion, since "hit" is subjective, and it attempts to inflate the importance of the subject, which is what puffery is. Now, if someone was considered by many critics and historians to have been a major hit-maker in Indian cinema, there might be a reasonable way to present the opinion of that success, but (see next bullet)
Before correcting this phrase which in no way is promotional but a authentic valid fact, correct those articlesNo, that's not how life works. If the police arrest me for theft, I don't get demand that they first arrest all the other thieves. That argument is logically fallacious; editors address problems one by one.
There is a bit of a sourcing problem when it comes to the number of films Khanna appeared in. Different sources seem to say different things; some of them tie themselves into knots detailing "solo hero" and "lead protagonist" films separately ( this is pretty confusing, for instance): this source says that he "star[red] in over 180 films" while this says that he appeared in 163 feature films and 17 short films (so why does our article say 168 feature films and 12 short films?). Appear in ≠ star in, to begin with, so which source should be used here? A lot of this mess dates back to the serial sockmaster Shrik88music who had a thing about inserting original research, but there's always been an issue in articles about major movie stars that fans are eager to include every single detail they find in any source, without any thought of which sources may be more or less reliable, and without realising that everything does not belong in a Wikipedia article. The question about how many films Khanna appeared/starred in is also an issue in Rajesh Khanna filmography. Pinging @ Cyphoidbomb: who is wise in the ways of Hindi cinema sources. -- bonadea contributions talk 11:54, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Bonadea: My interpretations:
He appeared in 163 feature films of which 128 as the lead protagonist including 106 as the solo lead hero films and 22 two hero projects and did 17 short films.- I believe solo lead hero and hero projects would both be counted as starring roles. IMO in a solo hero film, Khanna would be the sole "star" and other actors would be in supporting roles. The hero projects films on the other hand might be having other actors/actresses in starring roles beside Mr. Khanna. So we have 128 starring role (lead protagonist) films in which Khanna was a star, leaving 35 non-starring feature films and 17 short stories which probably is differently categorized.
Other celebrities who paid homage to him at his house after his death included Manoj Kumar, Asha Parekh, Ranjeet, Jeetendra, Rakesh Roshan, Yash Chopra, Randhir Kapoor, Rishi Kapoor, Shabana Azmi, Dharmendra, Vinod Khanna, Asrani, Prem Chopra, Govinda, Salman Khan, Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan, Amitabh Bachchan, Hema Malini, Himesh Reshammiya, Ram Kapoor, Mahesh Thakur, Aadesh Shrivastava and Sajid Khan. [1] [2] [3] His prayer meeting, organised in a grand way at the Taj Land's End hotel in Bandra, Mumbai on 21 July 2012, was attended by many, including Reena Roy, Padmini Kolhapure, Neelam, Jaya Prada, Amar Singh, Bindu, Poonam Dhillon, Neetu Kapoor, Jaya Bachchan, Aamir Khan, Kiran Rao, Ranbir Kapoor, Mithun Chakraborthy, Shakti Kapoor, Shashi Kapoor, Suresh Oberoi, Parmeshwar Godrej, Tabu, Sonali Bendre and Jackie Shroff. [4] [5] [6]
Such a list is not encylopedic and I have removed it. Platitudes are not encyclopedic. Millions of people mourn the loss of popular actors. Their names are not added in such way. Venkat TL ( talk) 15:33, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
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was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).Shah Rukh Khan reacted by saying: "To live with intention and walk to the edge. Play with abandon, choose with no regret. Smile and made us do the same. Sir, you defined our era. Whenever life felt tough you made us feel how love could change it all. RIP ". Mumtaz also added that she had memories of having worked with him and said that she had been crying the whole morning, but was happy that she had met the ailing Rajesh Khanna in Mumbai in June 2012, when the two discussed their respective battles with cancer. [1] While Shahid Kapoor quoted: "RIP to the First King of Romance ... Rajesh Khanna." Subhash Ghai added that Khanna " was the powerhouse of the Hindi film industry. I met him on the set of Aradhana, he had some kind of energy and you will be charged when he is around you. His name will be written in golden words." Amitabh Bachchan was quoted as saying: "The word 'Superstar' was invented for him, and for me it shall ever remain his, and no others .. !! His generation and the generations that follow, shall never be able to describe, or understand his phenomena .. !!". [2] His son-in-law Akshay Kumar said, "you are a father, a Legend & a very treasured man, who will never be forgotten." [3]
Vyjayanthimala commented that "His death is a big loss to the industry. It's my bad luck that I didn't have the chance to work with him because he came much later. I remember when he came to
Chennai for some film shoot, the college girls went crazy to catch a glimpse of him when he was going to his studio."
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Manna Dey said: "He was a great actor, truly a superstar, no doubt about it. I am honoured to have done playback for him. I have worked for him in several movies, and actors like him are a rarity."
[5]
Mrinal Sen recollected how Khanna had wanted to cast him in one of his films, but the latter could not manage due to date problems. "We had met several times. Once I had wanted to cast him in one of my films, but somehow that didn't work out due to his date problems."
Film historian S. M. M. Ausaja added: "He never acted in a Bengali cinema. But right from the late 1960s to the 70s he was the top star and worked with the top directors of his era, most of whom were Bengalis." [6] There were also reactions from the Gali Tiwaria where his ancestral house was, and had since been converted to a temple through his donation. Songs from his movies were played as the news of his death became known. His foster brother Muni Chand Khanna said that "he used to love to play Cricket when he lived here. He was a simple boy when he lived here and led a simple life even after achieving so much." [7] As were the residents of Burewala, Pakistan. [8]
Buddhadeb Dasgupta said Khanna's acting would continue to inspire young actors in the future. "He was a great actor and was the first superstar. He was a much bigger star than
Amitabh Bachchan. His acting will continue to inspire young actors of the coming generations."
[9]
Rituparno Ghosh said: "In the film 'Anand', he delivered some of Indian cinema's most memorable dialogues. The use of the word 'Babu Moshai' by Rajesh Khanna to
Amitabh Bachchan, who played a
Bengali doctor in the film, is so deeply etched in the minds of Indians that it has almost become a synonym for
Bengalis for the rest of the countrymen. "In a dhoti and kurta, you showed the rest of India how truly elegant
Bengal was"
[6] Madhur Bhandarkar said, "The epitome of superstardom is no more amongst us. There was none, there is none and there won't be any like you, Kakaji."
[10]
Additionally, those within the political spectrum that offered their condolences included Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who said that he "convey[s] my heartfelt condolences to the members of the bereaved family and countless fans and admirers of Shri Rajesh Khanna." INC President Sonia Gandhi also expressed her sorrow. Regional political leaders who offered their condolences included Chief Minister of West Bengal Mamata Banerjee, who said: "Rajesh Khanna was always a symbol of romance. His smiling face and the ability to connect with people at ease had made him popular. We lost a big pole star in the film world today." As well as Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar who added that "his death has caused irreparable loss to Hindi cinema." [11]
Condolences also came from Pakistan where Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf called Khanna a "great actor whose contribution to the field of films and arts would be long remembered. [He had a] large fan following across the borders and captivated audiences with his excellent acting skills." Ali Zafar wrote on Twitter: "Rajesh Khanna – RIP. So many fond memories from his movies and songs.", while Syed Noor said: "Rajesh Khanna was such a huge actor of the subcontinent that he will be remembered by the people for many years to come. The era he reigned over is unlikely to be experienced by any other actor of this subcontinent." Geo TV also aired a nearly hour-long tribute with contributions from actors, filmmakers and musicians. [4]
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help page).The above are usual platitudes and death condolence. People say such thing after every death. Although cited, None of these claims of greatness are verifiable or objective or encyclopedic. So I have removed them. Please discuss if you want to include them. -- Venkat TL ( talk) 15:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Rajesh Khanna made his Bollywood debut on Aakhri Khat in 1966. Nobel X300 ( talk) 18:22, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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Why was the external http://www.rajeshkhanna.net removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.73 ( talk) 01:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello - I have recently begun helping Shrik88music in a mentorship arrangement and am trying to encourage him to make better use of article talk pages. As I've browsed through the article history here I've seen most of the discussion happening in edit summaries. As I am encouraging Shrik88music to use talk pages to discuss reverts or contentious edits, I would ask other editors participating here to do the same. — e. ripley\ talk 19:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
all references i have provided below specially for u.You keep talking of having seen some references have been not proper etc.... Why do u claim before checking refernces properly ....now incorporate them again in the article the references which i have provided Shrik88music ( talk) 14:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
live in relationships were not practiced in India in that period.anju mahendru was his girlfriend since 1966.But their relationship ended in 1972.they were in this boyfriend girlfriend relationship for 7 years.change the sentence again properly.For she being called girlfriend or saying that they were dating each-other you may provide the following reference http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2003/05/30/stories/2003053001200100.htm and http://www.rediff.com/movies/2003/jan/16bolly.htm.They were madly in love with eachother but she never appreciated khanna for his performances.The world was after khanna and khanna was after anju. for your satisfaction - http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050304/asp/etc/story_4440550.asp Khanna dumped her so it was written that they drifted apart. anju had affair with Gary Sobers after her breakup with Khanna. Shrik88music ( talk) 14:55, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
i dont have a problem in you saying they lived in together but they did drift apart or not??? "Khanna and designer Anju Mahendru lived together for several years"-- whats this???? they were together in a relationship only for 7 years. mention that she was a fashion designer. thier realtion ship ended in 1972. so now u may provide it in your own scenetnce. Shrik88music ( talk) 15:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
as far as anju is concerned i dont want to include any information furthur. they were in relationship as boy friend girlfriend for 7 years and then they broke up in 1972.after 17 years they started speaking and then again became friends.this much does ur article contain u may check
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I have again reverted the lead section to content that more appropriately follows our guidelines for the lead. WP:LEAD
The first sentance should summarize the subject of the article - Khanna was an actor and a politician.
The remainder of the lead should give a brief overview of the subject:
The fact that "he was affectionately known" is barely encyclopedic content and should be kept for fanpage profiles, but not encyclopedia. Active Banana (bananaphone 20:27, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
affectionately called -- this word is also mentioned in the book -- the reference of which i have given.please go through the version i contributed! iam amused as to why for such silly things references are needed! anyways i have provieded the reference of a book.Its a fact that he is called as RK and Kaka by his fans and costars!
as far as Punjabi boy is concerned it only means a boy speaking Punjabi -- who was Ravi Kapoor! Shrik88music ( talk) 20:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
but the truth is fans call him RK or kaka both but his relatives and cosstars from film industry have named him as Kaka! can u give me some suitable alternative scentences for writing that scentence? Shrik88music ( talk) 21:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
mr.banana u just go through refrences already provided!! plus read them http://www.google.co.in/search?tbs=bks:1&tbo=1&q=KAKA+RAJESH+KHANNA&btnG=Search+Books http://www.screenindia.com/old/fullstory.php?content_id=7148 Shrik88music ( talk) 21:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
nickname is not the perfect word actually.he is called as Kaka out of respect.in a biography facts needs to presented.activebanana there are many articles where u can contribute too.even here i find that u just do not try to find better sources for the article i provide. i very well know that what i write are facts and in addition i do provide many refernces which are not in violation of wikipedia! if at all u find any references needs to be changed u can change but y do u remove the facts bluntly? if u find any spelling error,grmatical error or if u feel the senetnce can b better represented u r free to do. but asking too many silly questions is foolish! rajesh khanna is a superstar and there are many many interviews of historians, ediotrs,filmstars,producers,directors and other articles ,books etc... Shrik88music ( talk) 21:20, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
if the tone needs to be changed u may do so but remove such comments like the artcile may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards...as people are ready to improve the article but u shoudl cooperate in a beter manner! Do not remove Facts in any case! Shrik88music ( talk) 21:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Attempt to explain the difference: If I found a reliable source that said his favorite ice cream was pink bubble gum, even though it is a fact in a reliable source it is not worthy of inclusion in the article. If i found a reliable source that said his favorite ice cream was pink bubble gum and that is why he titled the first script he wrote Pink Bubblegum Ice Cream, then that would be worthy of including in the article. If I found a reliable source that said he was O+ blood type, that would not be worthy of including in an encyclopedia article even though it is a fact in a reliable source. If however, he became involved in a campaign encouraging other "Universal donors" of blood type O+ to give blood, then it would be worthy of including in the article. Someones nicknames, simply because they exist and can be documented fall in the first category of "so what" and should not be included in an encyclopedia even though they may be sourced in a reliable source. Active Banana (bananaphone
both of u r not getting the point. the blood group ,favorite bubble gum , favourite color,hobbies etc.. these things are DEFINITELY IRRELAVANT but the things which have been contributed by me are all very very significant.Kaka - this word is a Punjabi word.He is called as Kaka or Rk by people of India.thats a fact and i dont think it should be put into category of "Simply because there is a fact that can be verified does not mean that it should be included in an article". the things i have spoken about ie. him travelling in MG car in struggling days , him being called as Kaka are all very much relevant.Also i have not put something which is absoluely of no importance!!India is a developing country and had so many poor people and many actors have had rag to riches kind of lifes ie they struggled hard in thier childhood coming from poor family etc.... but rajesh khanna was son of rich man and so could afford to travel in MG car around theatres for work in films and in addition his family had no connections with film industry and he became interested in acting in films in spite of being rich...these things were much talked about things especially in seventies i started editing this article only coz before i edited this artcile most of the IMPORTANT and Relevant things were not present in the article. i myself compare and debate with myself whether this fact is worth to be mentioned? Shrik88music ( talk) 17:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
iam claiming???? oh my god am i claiming or providing facts with verifiable references? ohh its better u do proper research before blaming or accusing me of just claiming things as being facts...all of them are very much verifiable and i have provided references. now its time to move ahead and add the other informations in future.whatever is present in the article is very much important Shrik88music ( talk) 18:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
what i have provided till now they cannot be counted as coming under the category of " "Simply because there is a fact that can be verified does not mean that it should be included in an article"" as they are all very very much relevant.... madonna example was a good one and i already know that. i provide only those information which are not only verifiable facts but also are facts of the kind which needs to be mentioned in such a wikipedia which is a long term project Shrik88music ( talk) 14:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Great super star Rajesh Khanna was born in Bhuray Wala Punjab (British India) now Pakistan, this information should be added in Wikipidia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.218.216 ( talk) 00:02, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
some of the users are just without properly goin through the references given are deleting the artcile about khanna.the article put in wikipedia is very much relaible as sources are the reputed newspapers,interviews,film magazines,books etc.. Its rediculous to even dispute Khanna's superstar status in India. when there is reference to prove his achievements in his career then there shouldn't be unnecessary editing that too in a way that many FACTS are removed Shrik88music ( talk) 20:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
the refernces and the information i have provided about khanna's adult life,school,college,struggle in a car etc are not just other information!
i wont add any information which is irrelavant and iam adding only those information which is known since ages!
there are litle more things which are to be added but first let this much information remain undisputed!
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Now AB has task of now resurrecting the artcile properly as he has been provoided with all the necessary links . please ask him to now remove his comments - citation needed and replace them with the links i have given.You can also go through the links. Shrik88music ( talk) 15:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
first of all i have proved ur claims as wrong ie. they are dead links and that citation needed. whatever reference i have given that u need to incorporate. as u are disrespecting the actor by putting such comments.there are many readers who may read the artcile which is at present looking dirty with such comments.i have provided all the refernces u asked for. why are u now finding it difficult in putting together all the information i gave?its very easy to remove sentences but difficult to provide facts.u have provided comments in early life and adult life section and that needs to be removed first.this is matter of principle i mean basic ethics!! Shrik88music ( talk) 17:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
that job u r not doing properly!! u r going against basic ethics!! u made statements like none of ur sources are relaible, provide me links, all are dead links, citations are needed etc..very confidently thinking i wouldnt have the proper sources. now i have done what u asked for. incorporate them before asking for more from other sections. u need not advice me on whether i should write on some fan site. u r proving that u r here not to fruitfully contribute to the artcile. thinking that u may b having serious intentions of frutfullty contributing i gave u all the refernces u asked for. the replies i sent u contained everything -- replies to all questions u asked Shrik88music ( talk) 17:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
just because something is presented as having been in a source it does NOT mean that it needs to be included in the article. - this statement of urs just doesnt make any sense. all new refernces provided...i wont get repetative like u.iam not biased like u infact. Shrik88music ( talk) 18:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
in short even after u receive the replies to ur comments u wont incorporate the needed changes properly!!! Shrik88music ( talk) 18:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
E Ripley for ur convinience please go thru the section "Excessive number of dead links - impossible to verify content under WP:BLP" and All India Contest. Ripley AB is not here to contribute to the artcile effectively otherwise why would he have not incorporated the facts which he had asked for immediately in the same way he would hve deleted scenences or made comments like citatios needs, ref needed etc.. i provided him the refernces but today full day he has not incorporated tem into the article. Shrik88music ( talk) 18:50, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
surprising e ripley again u r giving piece of advice. from the discussions as laid below i think u shud b able to observe that i have provided him all the explanations which he had asked for. but throught the day he has noit bothered to make the changes to the artcile. so i by myself made those changes. infact its double work for me and waste of my time. i gave him reply first then later on saw he didnt make achanges and then he also says he wont make those useful changes ...its then that i put up that version which is authentic. am i working for AB? AB is engaging in edit war but by making refernces to wiki policies is covering up himself!iam imrovising the artcile daily.. Shrik88music ( talk) 20:29, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
use liitle bit comman sense too. word to word same things need not be copied from some article.the meaning should be the same in the artcile.in our own words v do can write summarising the point. dont bluff here.u keep reverting ...i know u r not going to FRUITFULLY CONTRIBUTE. u will neither find sources urself nor incorporate facts needed to be mentioned. u will only point the negetives ( even if there are not any)20:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC) Shrik88music ( talk)
The tone in entirely gossip magazine profile and not encyclopedic - the phrase " Punjabi boy " has no place in an encyclopedia. Active Banana (bananaphone
thats what has been done. present article states that ravi kapoor was another Punjabi speaking boy living in the same locality became friends with Khanna.Now they are pouplar by the names Rajesh and Jeetendra.i think now in such things we should not drag it furthur as references have been provided.no changes are necessary to the present article. infact new informations need to be added Shrik88music ( talk) 18:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC).
Its not AB who modified it to Punjabi speaking boy.It was me who changed it to Punjabi speaking boy.credit should go to me..... u may check the edits if u want to ! i will be happy only when the unnecessary edits and deletions are not made! do check before giving credits! this wa the version made by me where the phrase appears for the first time
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rajesh_Khanna&oldid=387797283
Shrik88music (
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In attempting to verify the content of the article an amazing percentage sources have turned out to be dead links. Can you Shrik88music re-search and add the appropirate live links or actual citations or else you will need to remove content about affairs etc. that will fail the WP:V requirement for contentious material about living people. Active Banana (bananaphone 20:48, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
There were no dead links found by me .just check the following links by yourself 1)one change in the article mentioned by you - Anju Mahendroo was a FASHION designer. 2) http://chatinterviews.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1258826.cms -- this interview is itself enough for three lines lines "Khanna attended St. Sebastian’s Goan High School in Girgaum, along with his friend Ravi Kapoor, who later took the stage name of Jeetendra.Their mothers were both keertan pals." and "When Jeetendra went for his first film audition it was Khanna, who tutored him."
3) http://www.rediff.com/%0Amovies/2002/sep/13dinesh.htm - reference for "Later Khanna married Dimple Kapadia in 1973 and has two daughters from the marriage." 4) http://movies.ndtv.com/PhotoDetail.aspx?Page=5&ID=6523 - ndtv is news channel of India similar to bbc - The couple separated in 1984, as his schedule kept him away much of the time and Dimple became interested in pursuing an acting career.
5) http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Rajesh-Dimple-Complicated/articleshow/6541166.cms for "Following a few years of separation, the relationship between Kapadia and Khanna blossomed and remained that of close friends."
6) http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/specials/slideshows/80s/tinamunim.htm - it mentions tina munim was romantically involved with khanna and reason for sepeartion was that she decided to leave film industry in 1987 to pursue higher studies abroad. ie for " In the eighties Tina Munim was romantically invloved with Khanna till the time she decided to leave the industry"
7) http://www.expressindia.com/news/election/fullestory.php?type=ei&content_id=30722 for "heir elder daughter Twinkle Khanna, an interior decorator and also a former Hindi film actress, is married to actor Akshay Kumar." Shrik88music ( talk) 13:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
The climax to this 1965 Filmfare show show was the introduction of the Filmfare–United Producers Talent Contest. The eight chosen ones, shortlisted from more than 10,000 star aspirants walked out of life-sized gift boxes. Amongst these eight were Rajesh Khanna, Subhash Ghai and Farida Jalal. Now you know where such stars were discovered. On our very own Filmfare stage. http://www.filmfare.com/articles/terrific-25-15-770.html
this link says that Rajesh Khanna was among the eight finalists selected from ten thousand ones. But AB is not mentioning that Rajesh Khanna won that Conetest as can be seen from the following links http://www.screenindia.com/news/The-original-superstar/327356/ in the finals. and http://entertainment.in.msn.com/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=4155691&page=3.
the para goes “Rajesh Khanna won our United Producers’ acting competition. I was making another film at the time and my friend G.P.Sippy gave him a break with Raaz. But it was only after Aradhana that he became a superstar. He was a naturally good actor. Even during the competition, he had spoken his lines so well. His strength was how he understood a character in a script."
AB now add them as refernces and re write the scenetnce as " Rajesh Khanna was one of eight finalists in the 1965 All India Talent Contest organised by United Producers and Filmfare from more than ten thousand contestants.He won All India Talent Contest by board of jury such as Guru Datta, Bimal Roy, G.P.Sippy, B.R.Chopra and Shakti Smanta."
for name of judges refer this site - http://www.hindilyrics.net/profiles/rajesh-khanna.html Shrik88music ( talk) 15:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
For convenience and to help this go a little more smoothly, I'll get the discussion started about the "All India Contest" line.
Shrik's preferred version is:
He won All India Talent Contest [1] which was judged by directors like Guru Datta, Bimal Roy, G.P.Sippy, B.R.Chopra and Shakti Samanta [2] [3].
AB has removed that sentence and the references.
My opinion is that the MSN link could be considered reliable. I'm not sure about the Screen India link, it appears to be an entertainment news site; it seems to have at least some professional oversight but I'll leave that to others to judge. In any case, it does not say anything about who the judges were at the All India Talent Contest, so it can't be used to source who judged it (though, it could be used to source that he won the contest). Hindilyrics.net is not a reliable source. — e. ripley\ talk 19:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
http://www.hindilyrics.net/profiles/rajesh-khanna.html - it does mention who were the judges and in addition samanta's interview does prove samanta nad GP Sippy were judges. e ripley dont get trapped into AB 's comments.He is not that inncocent. see the link. hindilyrics is a site containing all bollywood songs. how does that become irrleaible? if he is not confident of ther names then he needs to provide the names of GP Sippy and Shakti Samanta as its clearly visible ( source is very much relaible too). Shrik88music ( talk) 20:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
i have pro actively replied to this question already. see this link http://www.screenindia.com/news/The-original-superstar/327356/ -- samanta says he, sippy were judges ..atleast their names must be mentioned for now. plus what about other informations which he was not incorporating --- i directly made the changes and put them in order.also there is something called as information which is not available online. In India online sources began obly from year 2000. when already sippy and samanta names r available then i need to provide only links for fact that datta, bimal roy were also in panel right? then if that minutely , u need refrence then leave those names but show Samanta and G.P.Sippy's name. many information is not available inline as khanna was active from 1966-1991 and computer started to be used in India extensively only from 2000. Shrik88music ( talk) 20:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
still u did get it! read this para Shakti Samanta about Khanna He should come back to films!' “He was a good actor and a good-hearted man. But after he made a name for himself, he shifted a bit from his goodness! He joined politics and left movies. I wish he would come back and concentrate on films.”Rajesh Khanna won our United Producers’ acting competition. I was making another film at the time and my friend G.P.Sippy gave him a break with Raaz" --- United Prducers -- that included Shakti Smanta , G.P Sippy.... Shrik88music ( talk) 20:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
nopes his prduction company was not United Prducers. It was Samanta Enterprises ie Shakti Films!!!! - proof http://www.screenindia.com/news/Reinventing-itself/396722/ http://www.screenindia.com/story.php?id=396722&pg=-1
GP Sippy , Bimal Roy,Samanta, Subbu Rao,BR Chopra were running this United Producers competition. u have interpreted wrongly the sentence. that senetnce which i showed u only has one meaning ie. sippy and he were judges of United Prducers acting competition. Shrik88music ( talk) 21:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
http://www.screenindia.com/old/20010216/cover.htm - says Rajesh Khanna was under a contract with the United Producers and so available to us. http://www.screenindia.com/old/20020322/ftribute.html says - The film was realistic, a complete departure from the films that I had made till then, and remains my only film where I did not offer pure entertainment. G.P. Sippy and I were the first to sign Rajesh Khanna, who had won the Filmfare-United Producers’ Talent Contest. Shrik88music ( talk) 21:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
i have given the reasons for y its not easily available online. plus everything need not be available online in a ready-made manner. Samanta and GP Sippy were part of United Producers this can be understood by that samanta's interview where he says OUR Acting Competition. try to interpret the sentence.Samanta's production house is separate , GP Sippy's production house is separate etc...
by the way u r very much interested in arguing about this as sources are not available directly but what about others which have not been incorporated inspite of refernces where directly everything is available???? Shrik88music ( talk) 21:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
judges were being mentioned because the judges got chance to direct films starring Khanna.he had blockbusters in line from Aradhana.prize won by khanna was a film with each of the judges. these judges subsequently became his directors.khanna was unknown name at that time and after Aradhana even these producers benifitted. interview clearly states United Producers - consisted of Samanta , SGP Sippy atleast-- if noone then Samanta 's name atleast should appear as being in that panel of judges of the contest. Shrik88music ( talk) 21:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
given the number of times that I have seen that the content that you want to add to the article does not accurately reflect what the source actually says - thius claim of urs have always proved wrong.....number of times???? all the reaplies to ur commets like citation needed and dead links i have already given ----- that proves u failed to get get access to the links properly and after seeing tghe links u were unable to understand the inner meaning of all the information have provided!!! Shrik88music ( talk) 05:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Sources do not need to be available online -- this is first point 2)but they do need to specifically be able to verify the content in the article --this even i know very well - all readers will be able to understand through the references that the line written in wiki is the summary of the info written in the link given.there need not be direct references. this reply applies to early life as well as the contest. 3)there can be some lines for which no reference is provided only cause even though they are facts , unfortunately no online source is available!! 4)who r u to decided whether its believable or not! e ripley says i have to assume that a person like u is working in good faith !!!! the present references and the words inserted by me in article is LOGICAL. Shrik88music ( talk) 05:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
This article or section appears to have been copied and pasted from a source, possibly in violation of a copyright. - fantastic reason!!! u either ask me for references or ask for the same word to appear in the reference !!! references are provided openly to prove that the sentence written in the article is a fact. it's a proof. there need not be same word used in the link given . also when sentence is framed in our own words , considering the info given in the link u have raised hue and cry. U R NOT IMPROVING THE ARTICLE IN NAY WAY. also in adult life section references provided by u are not proper -- provide them---"but did not complete the divorce proceedings". It's written blossomed coz Dimple has accepted in that screen article they are friends,they attend parties together. anyway, provide the link properly!!! Shrik88music ( talk) 16:42, 3 October 2010 (UTC). 68.193.2.168 ( talk) 14:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
"but did not complete the divorce proceedings" - provide proper reference for this sentence. Shrik88music ( talk) 17:22, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
u add it later. i will make the needed chages. but y now u have put that maintainace tag and copyright tag unnecessarily when if at all there is chance of violation u can easily change the wordings but without compromising on the info provided? remove those tags and replace them if there is some violation or if u can add beter wordings Shrik88music ( talk) 17:46, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
the actress too refused to sign the divorce papers - these line from link http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Rajesh-Dimple-Complicated/articleshow/6541166.cms Shrik88music ( talk) 17:51, 3 October 2010 (UTC) "new paragraph for new topic"-- whats this???? the first para is looking really bad coz of the space between the lines.His nicknames and he was politicain that should appear with the other lines in irtoduction para. Kaka is his name - there is nothing to discuss on that matter. infact the discussion is irrelavnt! Shrik88music ( talk) 19:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
In English, when you start a new idea you start a new paragraph.
We have the lead sentence which gives an overview of the subject of the article.
Then we have a new paragraph on a new topic: the acting awards he has won.
Then we have a new paragraph on a new topic: his political career. This has nothing to do with his acting awards mentioned earlier and so goes into a new paragraph.
Then we have the random statement about his nicknames which you keep stating are important and need to be kept but never provide any sources to show why other than your claim that they are important. Active Banana (bananaphone 19:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
the info obtained from the below links are valid. http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2003/04/18/stories/2003041800080100.htm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13056306/10-Most-Romantic-Screencouples-of-All-Time
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13056306/10-Most-Romantic-Screencouples-of-All-Time
y whats the issue??? i have added whats written in the source.this info is vital.
In the eighties, he formed popular on-screen pairs with Shabana Azmi, Smita Patil and Poonam Dhillon.---its written very clearly in
http://entertainment.in.msn.com/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=4155691&page=6
i think those who are reverting are doing it purposely..
Quicklight (
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here lies the point. khanna has acted with many heroines like zarina wahab , moon moon sen , deepika , neelam , jayaprada , sadhana, nanda etc.. and has given hits too as per box office records. but the the entertainment one artcile by itself is mentioning in particular the names of Poonam, Tina Munim , Mumtaz , Sharmila ,Asha Parekh ,Hema Malini ,Smita and Shabana -- was that khanna had established a hit pair with them ensuring that they did diverse films of different genres crime , mystery , social , political , horror, actions , romantic films together.
he costarred for that matter with many heroines and has given hits with them too.so its vital to get the point right. at your convenience it cannot be said that "he costarred" - when even the line in reference says popular onscreen pairs".
i do understand the need to be neutral but the fact is -- its directly mentioned and accepted fact in indian film industry that khanna formed a hit pair with these actresses in particular. Quicklight ( talk) 17:34, 21 November 2010 (UTC) his pairing with -- Poonam, Tina Munim , Mumtaz , Sharmila ,Asha Parekh ,Hema Malini ,Smita and Shabana -- resulted in huge hits. he formed hit pairs with them. to solve the copyright issue i request the above editors to incorporate the info which i pasted, in their own words. but by just mentioning he costarred its just not done. fact needs to be mentioned - that he formed hit pair with them . Quicklight ( talk) 17:40, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
He appeared in many romantic and social melodramas, costarring with Sharmila Tagore, Asha Parekh, Mumtaz, Hema Malini and Tina Munim in films from a range of different genres. While Khandra also starred together with many other actresses, these pairings proved to be particularly popular with the audiences, and were referred to as "hit pairings" [insert reference here]. In the 1980s, he starred in films together with Shabana Azmi, Smita Patil and Poonam Dhillon, which resulted in equally popular on-screen pairs. [insert reference here]
I've removed this content, as some of it was copied from external sources. Even the proposed modification was unusable. (cf. [2]) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:16, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Quicklight ( talk) 14:44, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
quicklight u are going through same problem which i have been going through.the problem is most of the editors are not indians and they dont know anything about hindi films.
i always keep saying the same thing that instaed of reverting an artcile why not improve the artcile?
if at all there was copyright violation instaed of saying words like you would be blocked etc... softly they could have said that they want to revert it and want to discuss in talk page .
also when its clear that according to wiki policy the sentences needs to be modified and not directly copy pasted...ie if we want to borrow more than 1 line then we have to modify ,they could have easily made ---iam referring to the para of sharmila-rajesh khanna which you wanted to inroduce.
e ripley , moongirl,hebrides - these three are very helpful and they would definitely help u in solving the wiki related problems but genaic would never rectify the mistakes pertaining to removal of facts made by her. many a times i have explained that since india became online only after 2000 and khanna's rule is from 1969-1991 sometimes sources are not possible. but you will find that i have always provided informations with the necessary links. carry on your with your noble work Shrik88music ( talk) 21:39, 22 November 2010 (UTC) bonadea is also helpful with respect to correcting grammatical mistakes but she also some times...i am sure unknowingly reverts articles especially those which i have contributed to. Shrik88music ( talk) 21:41, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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intros are provided in many artciles espcially of any film star , so if anywhere with references, intro is given , then it does not amount to wastage of information. eg - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahrukh_Khan, ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aamir_khan, even amitabh bachchan. Wantnovels ( talk) 18:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
I created this sub-heading and added a sentence with a proper citation.
I don't know why the heading as well as the content has been removed.
Sachi bbsr ( talk) 03:28, 25 June 2012 (UTC) TRIVIA : Rajesh Khanna was separated from his wife Dimple Kapadia in 1982 itself. But, the write-up in the Template below his photograph indicates as " 1984. " 68.193.2.168 ( talk) 13:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC) In the main article too, under the sub-title ' Adult Life, ' it has been written that Khanna and Dimple Kapadia got separated in 1984. That was the year when Dimple had resumed her acting career in films, they were actually separated in 1982 itself. 68.193.2.168 ( talk) 14:26, 18 July 2012 (UTC) For information on this issue, the Wikipedia article on Dimple Kapadia biography may be seen. 68.193.2.168 ( talk) 14:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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Rajesh Khanna passed away http://www.asia-pacific-news.net/2012/07/bollywoods-first-superstar-rajesh.html 101.210.206.38 ( talk) 08:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I would like to request the Wikipedians to make a list of movies of this Superstar and add to this page. Guitaristrock ( talk) 17:02, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks !!! Guitaristrock ( talk) 13:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
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Rajesh Khanna was Born in Burewala, Punjab Pakistan. His Father was First Head Master of M.C.School Burewala. He retired on March, 1947 and went to Amrister with his family. Rajesh Khanna studied class-1 in the same school where his father was Head Master.
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talk:QiratQamar|talk]]) 19:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I would like to request the Wikipedians to correct the real name of Rajesh Khanna as born to Jatin Arora and not Jatin Khanna. He was born Jatin Arora, and then he was raised by foster parents who were Khannas, and hence he was named Jatin Khanna.
Ravi Matah ( talk) 19:27, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
In the later career section it needs to be mentioned that Riyasat is the last movie of Rajesh Khanna and he shot for it untill 6 days before he fell ill and shooting had begun in 2011. Riyast will release on Dec 28, 2012. Reference is http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Rajesh-Khannas-last-film-to-be-released-in-December/articleshow/15052167.cms. After Riyasat gets released in 2012, he would have appeared in exact 164 feature films, 107 as the solo lead hero. So changes have to be made. Onceshook1 ( talk) 05:00, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
The section is nothing but a collection of eulogies. I suggest that we remove it completely or curtail it. Thoughts? -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:13, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Anita Advani was removed from the article saying "Anita Advani only claims to be live in partner and has filed a notice claiming to be same to get property. But its not truth til court decides". But newspaper references say that she was Khanna's partner, not that she claims to be his partner. The court will only decide about the property she claims.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 14:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Anita Advani only claims to be a live in partner of Rajesh Khanna, after his death. Otherwise she always maintained she was a freind. Till the verdict of court is out, here in wiki we cannot consider her as a partner of Khanna. She has claimed in the legal notice sent to family members of Khanna, only to claim his property. So her name should be removed from main box as well as from Relationships section. Onceshook1 ( talk) 10:17, 22 July 2012 (UTC)Till now there is no proof of that she was really a live in partner of Khanna. Untill court verdict is out that she was in real a live in partner , wiki should not declare her to be partner. References http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-21/news-interviews/32776430_1_rajesh-khanna-anita-advani-legal-notice and http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Tabloid/Rajesh-Khanna-s-live-in-partner-sends-legal-notice/Article1-892614.aspx Onceshook1 ( talk) 10:21, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
There is a clarification tag put up in the lead section. The editor which has put up that tag should mention here why he has put up, else I am going to remove it. The citation has reference for the same text.Regards, theTigerKing 15:54, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
A film which runs in theaters across India for more than 25 weeks but less than 50 weeks is a silver jubliee Hit and the film which runs for more than 50 weeks and above in every theater across India is a Golden Jubilee Hit. Onceshook1 ( talk) 10:03, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Terms have been explained in talk page twice by two different people. Okay right now I have explained the terms in brackets.Now you may remove the notification of clarification needed. Onceshook1 ( talk) 06:21, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
I plan to nominate the article for GA. The article needs attention on following issues(many of them are not related with GA):
Regards, theTigerKing 17:13, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
No tweet can be found on Amitabh Bachchan's twitter account. Which means he has deleted it and thus we can say that he too doesn't stand by it. He was told by someone that those were his last words so there is no certainty that the man is saying the truth. Boseritwik ( talk) July 22, 2012 01:19 (UTC)
The tweet in Amitabh's account is still there. https://twitter.com/SrBachchan is the account of Bachchan and tweet reads "his last words were 'time up ho gaya - pack up !!'" Onceshook1 ( talk) 10:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)Moreover there are more references of last words of Rajesh Khanna - http://ibnlive.in.com/news/rajesh-khannas-last-words-were-pack-up/272201-8-66.html Onceshook1 ( talk) 10:13, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
He also did some playback singing in movies like Baharon Ke Sapne, Safar, Shehzade, Amar Prem, Daag, Prem Nagar, Ajnabee and flm souten. Reference - http://www.worldlatesttrends.com/2012/07/rajesh-khanna-hindi-film-career.html and IMDB of each of these films. Onceshook1 ( talk) 15:34, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Imdb also credits Khanna for singing the songs in above films.And even from the video of these particular songs its clear that Khanna does sing or mouths dialogues during the song. Onceshook1 ( talk) 12:21, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
The way Khanna recites dialogues in the song Haan Toh Main Kya from Raja Rani, the same way he recites in songs like - Nadiya Chale Chale Re Dhara from Safar, Ek Ajnbee Hasina Se from Ajnabee, O Mere Sajna O Mere Balma from Baharoan Ke Sapne,Ek Maumma Hai from Premnagar, Shayad Meri Shaadi Ka Khayal from Souten. He was officially credited in song albums only in two songs - Haan Toh Main Kya from Raja Rani, Pushpaa I Hate Tears from Amar Prem and Main Toh Kuch Bhi Nahi from Daag. But if video and song sare heard from the CD's , it can be easily understood that Khanna recites dilaogues in between - in case of these songs. Onceshook1 ( talk) 16:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/celebrity/rajesh-khanna-was-suffering-from-cancer-for-the-past-one-year_115624.htm and http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/news/2012/rajesh-khanna-last-wish-097591.html It s clear from these artiles that Khanna died of cancer and that though he and his family members knew he was ill a year ago, Khanna had insisted that the news of him being ill and having cancer need not be divulged to the public till after his death. Mumtaz, his close freind and co-star makes it clear in the artcile - http://www.indianexpress.com/news/rajesh-khanna-was-very-close-to-me-mumtaz/976166/ and http://www.filmitadka.in/201207192481/news/mumtaz-and-sharmila-tagore-share-rajesh-khanna-memories.html that Khanna was suffering from cancer and had met him a month before his death. Onceshook1 ( talk) 16:32, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Mumtaz has made it clear and read the 4 artciles i have given above. It was cancer due to which he became slim from 2011-2012. Onceshook1 ( talk) 17:45, 24 July 2012 (UTC) Another refernce says he died of cancer. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Demand-grows-for-Rajesh-Khanna-DVDs/articleshow/15170006.cms. Its hightime that wiki artcile is corrected and its mentioned that Khanna died of Cancer. Onceshook1 ( talk) 12:44, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
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I want to correct some edition in this biography of Rajesh Khanna. You have mentioned the birth place of Rajesh Khanna as "Amritsar, India" which is incorrect. Actual Birth place of Rajesh Khanna is "Burewala, Pakistan". Please find below link by "The Indian Express" which proves the birthplace of Late Mr. Khanna:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/for-kaka-from-pakistan/977275/ http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Residents-of-Pakistan-town-condole-Khannas-death/articleshow/15101019.cms http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-59469-Rajesh-Khanna-was-born-in-Burewala http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_pakistan-s-burewala-city-mourns-rajesh-khanna-s-death_1717111
I hope above links would help you to believe that Late Mr. Rajesh Khanna was born on 29th December 1942 in Burewala, Pakistan. Also, I would like to mention here that Mr. Rajesh Khanna's real father name. Rajesh Khanna's father, Lala Hiranand Khanna, was the first headmaster of MC School, Burewala, who got retired on in March 1947. Later in 1948, Hiranand Khanna migrated along with family to Amritsar following the partition of the sub-continent. Umermalhi ( talk) 20:56, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Khanna was born in Amritsar only. Every Indian media says its Amritsar. Khanna's father migrated from Pakistan before Partition and settled in Gali Tiwarian in the city of Amritsar in 1940. Khanan was born in Amnritsar in 1942 and soon after his parents died. Later he was adopted by Chunnilal Khanna's family. Onceshook1 ( talk) 17:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
This news article http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=59469 claims that Khanna's actual birthplace is Burewala (Pakistan), not Amritsar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.240.125.119 ( talk) 20:58, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Khanna was born in Amritsar only. Every Indian media says its Amritsar. Khanna's father migrated from Pakistan before Partition and settled in Gali Tiwarian in the city of Amritsar. Khanan was born in Amnritsar in 1942 and soon after his parents died. He was adopted by Chunnilal Khanna's family.The family did have an ancestral house even in Burewala as his biological dad worked in school in Pakistan. Onceshook1 ( talk) 08:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
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Khanna attended Hill Grange High School, Mumbai, in years 1958-59.
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The editing should be made to the following page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajesh_Khanna
Here the line, "After being critical illness, Khanna died on 18 July 2012", is grammatically incorrect and is also void of an important fact that should be mentioned. The line should be changed to, "After being critically ill, Khanna died of cancer on 18 July 2012".
Mr.bhasin ( talk) 19:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Going to be add last message of MR.Khanna soon. - 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 16:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Following information needs to be incorporated 1) Rajesh Khanna's father, Lala Hiranand Khanna was working as the headmaster of MC School, Burewala near Faisalabad in Pakistan in the 1930's till his death. 2) Khanna's ancestral house built in 1935, is still located in located in H-block on Delhi-Multan Road and is named as 'Jatin Bhawan'. 3) But Rajesh Khnana is born in Amrisar only as per Indian Media as his parents' hometown was Amritsar and only for work purposes his father had another ancestral house in Burewala Pakistan.
References - http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/07/19/truth-revealed-rajesh-khanna-was-born-in-pakistan/#.UCqOClaPWDs Onceshook1 ( talk) 08:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Adequate references available online proving following 2 facts 1 Rajesh khanna did 106 solo hero films. 2) Secondly he holds record for being the actor from hindi films with most number of solo hero films. ( which is 106) 3) He was awarded filmfare special award in 1991 for his record of most number of solo hero films till 1991 in compariso. To all other male actors of hindi films and also for completing this feat within 25 years since his debut.
4) his record of doing most number of solo hero films in hindi is a standing record, which is yet to be broken. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rajesh_Khanna&diff=574028870&oldid=574028356 The version which appeared a hour ago was correct information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.76.121.83 ( talk) 13:56, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
The below link is more specific saying by 2011 he held record of most number of solo hero hind:i films and least number of multi star - 22. Here is the link http://www.theothernews.in/specialcoverage/77-news/8722-anand-marte-nahin.html Below link http://radio2fun.com/news/?p=2264 http://radio2fun.com/news/?p=2264— Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.138.125.99 ( talk • contribs) 13:56, 23 September, 2013 (UTC)
The current version makes for confused reading. It does not mention properly 2 things that he continues to hold record for doing most number of solo hero hindi films (106 films). and that he was given award in 1991 for not just completing 25 years but also for doing most number of solo hero movies just in span of 25 years in comparison to all Hindi actors who acted since 1913 to 1991. His tally of solo hero was just 101 in 1991. That filmfare special award was also given since he did least number of two hero films. and radio2fun article reference also says so. Then see Now references you need to find as you are removing them though its mentioned in references given.
Other references include http://www.movieplus.com/article-details/10-best-performances-of-rajesh-khanna-807/ and http://www.theothernews.in/specialcoverage/77-news/8722-anand-marte-nahin.html and radio2fun site too.
I agree with above points. Seriously too many references prove the point. http://www.theothernews.in/specialcoverage/77-news/8722-anand-marte-nahin.html says directly - Khanna was awarded a Filmfare Special Award in 1991 for having starred in 101 films as the solo lead hero and just 21 two hero films in a short span of 25 years. By 2011, he held record for actor with most number of authors backed lead hero films — 106 solo hero films and only 22 two hero films.
http://www.movieplus.com/article-details/10-best-performances-of-rajesh-khanna-807/ says - Rajesh Khanna holds the distinction of acting in the largest number of solo-hero Hindi movies. 120.138.125.99 ( talk) 13:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
The references do meet the wikipedia standards. different users in wikipedia have provided you links in this matter. more importantly - all the sources - be it magazines/newspapers/websites -have different authors and are not fan sites. Correction is required - only to convey 3 things - 1) his record of doing 106 solo hero films is a standing record - till date and is yet to be broken by any actor in Hindi films 2) this record applies only to Hindi films and not to films of other languages. 3) when he was awarded in 1991 - with special award he had done 101 solo hero films and only 21 multi-hero films. for this record he was given this award. 120.138.125.44 ( talk) 09:49, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Using words proclamation by you would not make the facts untrue!! they are not proclamation . Go through newspaper articles, websites of news channels and online books then. Why don't you search when you deny the above real facts so easily. why are you adamant in accepting your errors? Go through the below links http://books.google.co.in/books?id=vS9FGUgL0HQC&pg=PT31&dq=rajesh+khanna+solo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bWdEUvazIceLtAafmYG4Ag&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=rajesh%20khanna%20solo&f=false - it says Filmafre special award was given in 1991 for acting in 101 solo hero films till 1991.
http://www.gffn.org/awards.html http://www.indiasite.com/Personalities/Rajesh-Khanna#sthash.Ofwx9bCw.dpuf - By 2011, he held record for maximum number of films as the solo lead hero and least number of multi star cast films in Hindi Cinema. http://www.theothernews.in/specialcoverage/77-news/8722-anand-marte-nahin.html - By 2011, he held record for actor with most number of authors backed lead hero films — 106 solo hero films and only 22 two hero films
http://www.movieplus.com/article-details/10-best-performances-of-rajesh-khanna-807/ - Rajesh Khanna holds the distinction of acting in the largest number of solo-hero Hindi movies http://www.mensxp.com/entertainment/bollywood/8831-10-actors-who-changed-indian-filmmaking-forever.html - He also holds the record for the maximum number of films as the solo lead hero and least number of multi-star cast films.
Only small modification needed to those 2 sentences. 183.87.84.86 ( talk) 18:09, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
People easily remove sentences from the article and do not reply when errors are pointed out showing they are committing blunders. Reply to above detailed comment with references - which show solo hero film record continues to be held by rajesh khanna till date. http://newindianexpress.com/entertainment/hindi/A-phenomenon-called-Rajesh-Khanna/2013/07/18/article1688431.ece says why he was called the phenomenon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.66.60.50 ( talk) 07:30, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Have modified. 1.187.33.131 ( talk) 08:08, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Seems bonadea and Redpenofdoom - both of you have got confused. There are 3 separate records - 1) 15 consecutive solo hits (which is rightly mentioned) 2) 101 solo hero films till 1991 and 22 two hero films till 1991 -for which he was awarded the filmfare special award.(again wiki does mention it but only partly. Some one removed the information that he did least number of multi hero films till 1991) 3) the solo hero films he did till the time of his death is the maximum by any actor in Hindi films and the 22 mulkti star films he did is the least by any actor from Hindi films. (only in Hindi films as there are actors in Tamil and Malayalam films who may or may not have done more than 106 solo hero films)
Right now the only mistake which seems to be pointed out again and again - is about this 3rd record and the second part of 2nd record - present article does not mention that Khanna continues to hold record (even after his death) - the record for doing maximum solo lead hero films than any male actor from Hindi films in 100 years of Indian cinema from 1913-2013 and also that he did least number of multi hero films.(till date) and at the time of his death he had done 106 solo hero films Bowsarrown ( talk) 14:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
The reason I say you are confused is simple - these records are not some fun stuff or folktales or trivia. all 3 are 3 different records. award sections are different and introduction para is different. Just see articles on yash chopra or ranbir kapoor or rajnikanth and others where we can see that - in these articles information does get repeated and are filled with many trivia but here in the rajesh khanna artcile, only certain records (these 3) are mentioned to justify the titles he is bestowed with and the popularity he enjoyed. Any how now article looks proper.
Still there is one missing information like he has done least number of multi hero films which is 23.( from 1966 to his death in 2012) - i think this should get added with the line saying he not only holds record for being only Hindi actor with most solo hero movies but also has done least number of two hero films. Bowsarrown ( talk) 18:26, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Not really. already explained the reason how its not trivia as far as rajesh khanna article is concerned. I would like to add - these articles are neither promotional. he has already died and no promotion is needed and his body of work is too large. i do agree there are many wikipedia on many actors where the lines are actually written to promote the actor and create an aura about him. these are done for actors who are currently working - like i said yesterday just see madhuri dixit or ranbir kapoor or anil kapoor or rajnikant or amitabh bachchan article. When you read them you can see this is fluff and meant for celebrity magazines.I feel these Wikipedia articles are written and edited by their PRO and those articles need a rework by people like you or any administrator. Bowsarrown ( talk) 04:38, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Every source says the same thing that he had 15 successive solo hits from 1969-1971. So there is no issue. 1) http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/rajesh-khanna-the-superstar-who-could-not-handle-success-381803.html
2) http://www.rediff.com/movies/slide-show/slide-show-1-10-facts-about-rajesh-khanna/20120718.htm#1
3) http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-19/news-interviews/32731341_1_rajesh-khanna-consecutive-solo-superhits-record-in-indian-film 120.138.125.137 ( talk) 07:31, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
I've semiprotected the article owing to IP socking from one of the regulars here. If this increases on the talk page this will also have to be semiprotected. Editors in good standing are of course free to revert my revert of the sock. — Spaceman Spiff 11:07, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Good that article is semi protected. But sadly spacemantiff and bonadea insert a better source as truth is 15 consecutive solo hits came from 1969 to 1971. That ip address may have not provided nice source but correction was rightly made. 15 Consecutive solo hits were only from aradhana released in 1969 to haathi mere saathi released in 1971. Meeshaiomeeshai ( talk) 13:28, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
The fact is Rajesh Khanna's Phenomenal Period was in between 1969 to 1972, though he remained superstar till 1974.Also He had never given 15 consecutive hits as stated, I have done keen research on Rajesh Khanna from National Film Archieve of India, Pune, Where I found Rajesh Khanna gave 15 Superhit films till 1972.So please give correct information to people.( talk)
You have given totally wrong information on Rajesh Khanna page...Rajesh Khanna had a phenomenal period from 1969 to 1972 instead of 1971...Apna desh was his 15th super hit film. Rajesh never gave 15 consecutive hits..try to understand or please do your self research.I have done an authentic research on Rajesh Khanna.Rajesh Khanna was a Superstar from 1969 to 1974 Period in which his phenomenal period was 1969 to 1972. Please do not shortened it to 1971. He had a major 3 hits in 1972 and they were Dushman, Amar Prem And Apna Desh. in 1971 He had 2 flops which were Mehboob ki Mehendi and Chhoti Bahu then how could he delivered 15 consecutive hits??? Infact Mehboob ki Mehendi was released just before the Film Anand. Lots of information I have found out from National Film Archive of India which is in Pune. Please do search it in proper way and give information to the world. Thank you.( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:54, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
The achievements section - http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-07-19/news/32747291_1_rajesh-khanna-ads-emami - answers all queries of atul. 1) chronologically 15 consecutive solo hero films released between 1969-71 were box office hits. Infact reality is he had 17 consecutive hits from 1969-1971, but 2 of them were multi hero films - Maryada and Andaz, hene its said he gave 15 consecutive solo hero hits. Then his next a special appearance in Badnaam Farishte in 1971 and solo release Maalik (1972) flopped, hence the record stopped. But again he had 11 consecutive solo hero hits from 1972-73 - in 1972 - Amar Prem, Shehezada, Joroo Ka Ghulam,Mere Jeevan Saathi,Dil Daulat Duniya, Bawarchi, and Apna Desh, Anuraag.In 1973, again he continued to have hits - Daag, Banagru Babu(spl app), Raja Rani, Namak Haraam.But his next release in 1974 - Humshakal flopped and again he had 5 consecutive hits in 1974 - Prem Nagar, Aap Ki Kasam, Ajanabee, Avishkaar and Roti and then one more in 1975 - Prem Kahani and then his next release Akraman became a flop.
2) The achievement section also point out why Filmfare special award was given to him in 1991 - it was for starring in most solo hero films in Hindi Cinema - 101 films withing 25 years.
3)The achievement section points out - the number of silver , golden jubilee hits he had. Ayirathil ( talk) 20:09, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
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Ok PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 15:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
I just want to say that this phrase is in no sense promotional or puffery andif we do not use it how will it convey to the viewers that the record is still not broken. 2ndly Have u ever seen articles of other actors like Amitabh Bachchan? It is almost impossible to find out simple and encyclopedic information as it mostly contains over exaggerated phrases trying to prove him a god which is totally wrong but the phrase we are discussing about is just a simple phrase which is trying to give the sentence a complete meaning while making it informative and conceptualising that this record is not broken. 3rdly It is a record as it is given in numerous articles on the web and also mentioned in the 3 citations. 4thly this phrase was there in the article long before I ever made my first edit. You can ask @fylindfotberserk And this particular phrase only helped me know and made me aware that oh! this record is still no broken At last please keep this phrase as it helps in conceptualising and is in no way promotional as compared to any other article on wikipedia. Thankyou PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 17:22, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Isnt it necessary for us to give complete knowlege about anything we write so that people dont mis interpret it. Therefore if we are telling about his 15 consecutive hits, we should give a complete info that this is not broken by anyone till now with regards to Wikipedia rules and guidelines. PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 11:13, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
2ndly how to reply below the post? PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 11:14, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
@ PrinceAnand2003: Texts like "record still unbroken" is best be avoided in an Encyclopedia article even if sourced, since it ventures into WP:PEACOCK category. Besides you are supposed to discuss after getting reverted the first time as per WP:BRD. - Fylindfotberserk ( talk) 17:11, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Again,pardon me for disturbing you two expert editors. PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 20:07, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
It is Important to tell the viewers that his record is still not broken so that the viewers do not misconceptualise this and i am not using the word still as per MOS:REALTIME And talking about puffery and promotional phrase, this in no sense is promotional as compared to other actors articles such as amitabh bachchan etc: Before correcting this phrase which in no way is promotional but a authentic valid fact, correct those articles so that editors like you dont look biased PrinceAnand2003 ( talk) 10:27, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
"It is Important to tell the viewers that his record is still not broken"How do we know it is still not broken? The article cited was written in 2012.
"this phrase which in no way is promotional but a authentic valid fact,"No, it's an opinion, since "hit" is subjective, and it attempts to inflate the importance of the subject, which is what puffery is. Now, if someone was considered by many critics and historians to have been a major hit-maker in Indian cinema, there might be a reasonable way to present the opinion of that success, but (see next bullet)
Before correcting this phrase which in no way is promotional but a authentic valid fact, correct those articlesNo, that's not how life works. If the police arrest me for theft, I don't get demand that they first arrest all the other thieves. That argument is logically fallacious; editors address problems one by one.
There is a bit of a sourcing problem when it comes to the number of films Khanna appeared in. Different sources seem to say different things; some of them tie themselves into knots detailing "solo hero" and "lead protagonist" films separately ( this is pretty confusing, for instance): this source says that he "star[red] in over 180 films" while this says that he appeared in 163 feature films and 17 short films (so why does our article say 168 feature films and 12 short films?). Appear in ≠ star in, to begin with, so which source should be used here? A lot of this mess dates back to the serial sockmaster Shrik88music who had a thing about inserting original research, but there's always been an issue in articles about major movie stars that fans are eager to include every single detail they find in any source, without any thought of which sources may be more or less reliable, and without realising that everything does not belong in a Wikipedia article. The question about how many films Khanna appeared/starred in is also an issue in Rajesh Khanna filmography. Pinging @ Cyphoidbomb: who is wise in the ways of Hindi cinema sources. -- bonadea contributions talk 11:54, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Bonadea: My interpretations:
He appeared in 163 feature films of which 128 as the lead protagonist including 106 as the solo lead hero films and 22 two hero projects and did 17 short films.- I believe solo lead hero and hero projects would both be counted as starring roles. IMO in a solo hero film, Khanna would be the sole "star" and other actors would be in supporting roles. The hero projects films on the other hand might be having other actors/actresses in starring roles beside Mr. Khanna. So we have 128 starring role (lead protagonist) films in which Khanna was a star, leaving 35 non-starring feature films and 17 short stories which probably is differently categorized.
Other celebrities who paid homage to him at his house after his death included Manoj Kumar, Asha Parekh, Ranjeet, Jeetendra, Rakesh Roshan, Yash Chopra, Randhir Kapoor, Rishi Kapoor, Shabana Azmi, Dharmendra, Vinod Khanna, Asrani, Prem Chopra, Govinda, Salman Khan, Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan, Amitabh Bachchan, Hema Malini, Himesh Reshammiya, Ram Kapoor, Mahesh Thakur, Aadesh Shrivastava and Sajid Khan. [1] [2] [3] His prayer meeting, organised in a grand way at the Taj Land's End hotel in Bandra, Mumbai on 21 July 2012, was attended by many, including Reena Roy, Padmini Kolhapure, Neelam, Jaya Prada, Amar Singh, Bindu, Poonam Dhillon, Neetu Kapoor, Jaya Bachchan, Aamir Khan, Kiran Rao, Ranbir Kapoor, Mithun Chakraborthy, Shakti Kapoor, Shashi Kapoor, Suresh Oberoi, Parmeshwar Godrej, Tabu, Sonali Bendre and Jackie Shroff. [4] [5] [6]
Such a list is not encylopedic and I have removed it. Platitudes are not encyclopedic. Millions of people mourn the loss of popular actors. Their names are not added in such way. Venkat TL ( talk) 15:33, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
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help page).Shah Rukh Khan reacted by saying: "To live with intention and walk to the edge. Play with abandon, choose with no regret. Smile and made us do the same. Sir, you defined our era. Whenever life felt tough you made us feel how love could change it all. RIP ". Mumtaz also added that she had memories of having worked with him and said that she had been crying the whole morning, but was happy that she had met the ailing Rajesh Khanna in Mumbai in June 2012, when the two discussed their respective battles with cancer. [1] While Shahid Kapoor quoted: "RIP to the First King of Romance ... Rajesh Khanna." Subhash Ghai added that Khanna " was the powerhouse of the Hindi film industry. I met him on the set of Aradhana, he had some kind of energy and you will be charged when he is around you. His name will be written in golden words." Amitabh Bachchan was quoted as saying: "The word 'Superstar' was invented for him, and for me it shall ever remain his, and no others .. !! His generation and the generations that follow, shall never be able to describe, or understand his phenomena .. !!". [2] His son-in-law Akshay Kumar said, "you are a father, a Legend & a very treasured man, who will never be forgotten." [3]
Vyjayanthimala commented that "His death is a big loss to the industry. It's my bad luck that I didn't have the chance to work with him because he came much later. I remember when he came to
Chennai for some film shoot, the college girls went crazy to catch a glimpse of him when he was going to his studio."
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Manna Dey said: "He was a great actor, truly a superstar, no doubt about it. I am honoured to have done playback for him. I have worked for him in several movies, and actors like him are a rarity."
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Mrinal Sen recollected how Khanna had wanted to cast him in one of his films, but the latter could not manage due to date problems. "We had met several times. Once I had wanted to cast him in one of my films, but somehow that didn't work out due to his date problems."
Film historian S. M. M. Ausaja added: "He never acted in a Bengali cinema. But right from the late 1960s to the 70s he was the top star and worked with the top directors of his era, most of whom were Bengalis." [6] There were also reactions from the Gali Tiwaria where his ancestral house was, and had since been converted to a temple through his donation. Songs from his movies were played as the news of his death became known. His foster brother Muni Chand Khanna said that "he used to love to play Cricket when he lived here. He was a simple boy when he lived here and led a simple life even after achieving so much." [7] As were the residents of Burewala, Pakistan. [8]
Buddhadeb Dasgupta said Khanna's acting would continue to inspire young actors in the future. "He was a great actor and was the first superstar. He was a much bigger star than
Amitabh Bachchan. His acting will continue to inspire young actors of the coming generations."
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Rituparno Ghosh said: "In the film 'Anand', he delivered some of Indian cinema's most memorable dialogues. The use of the word 'Babu Moshai' by Rajesh Khanna to
Amitabh Bachchan, who played a
Bengali doctor in the film, is so deeply etched in the minds of Indians that it has almost become a synonym for
Bengalis for the rest of the countrymen. "In a dhoti and kurta, you showed the rest of India how truly elegant
Bengal was"
[6] Madhur Bhandarkar said, "The epitome of superstardom is no more amongst us. There was none, there is none and there won't be any like you, Kakaji."
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Additionally, those within the political spectrum that offered their condolences included Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who said that he "convey[s] my heartfelt condolences to the members of the bereaved family and countless fans and admirers of Shri Rajesh Khanna." INC President Sonia Gandhi also expressed her sorrow. Regional political leaders who offered their condolences included Chief Minister of West Bengal Mamata Banerjee, who said: "Rajesh Khanna was always a symbol of romance. His smiling face and the ability to connect with people at ease had made him popular. We lost a big pole star in the film world today." As well as Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar who added that "his death has caused irreparable loss to Hindi cinema." [11]
Condolences also came from Pakistan where Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf called Khanna a "great actor whose contribution to the field of films and arts would be long remembered. [He had a] large fan following across the borders and captivated audiences with his excellent acting skills." Ali Zafar wrote on Twitter: "Rajesh Khanna – RIP. So many fond memories from his movies and songs.", while Syed Noor said: "Rajesh Khanna was such a huge actor of the subcontinent that he will be remembered by the people for many years to come. The era he reigned over is unlikely to be experienced by any other actor of this subcontinent." Geo TV also aired a nearly hour-long tribute with contributions from actors, filmmakers and musicians. [4]
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help page).The above are usual platitudes and death condolence. People say such thing after every death. Although cited, None of these claims of greatness are verifiable or objective or encyclopedic. So I have removed them. Please discuss if you want to include them. -- Venkat TL ( talk) 15:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Rajesh Khanna made his Bollywood debut on Aakhri Khat in 1966. Nobel X300 ( talk) 18:22, 1 May 2023 (UTC)