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Lets not confuse railcars with railbus! Many of us ask ourselves what distinguishes railbuses from railcars.
The term “railbus” (perhaps as a loan from German Schienenbus) in relation to modern passenger railcars is being used often!
And although the definitions of what is a Railbus between Germany, Italy, France, England, Sweden may vary slightly, they where all pioneers in this type of vehicles and all have one charecteristic in common; “lightweight street based vehicles that ran on smaller main line railines”, in other words, a Railcar is a smaller lighter powered main line rail vehicle while a Railbus is still smaller and lighter powered than a Railcar.
Here i include several reasons why today's railcars are being called “railbus”:
Here an example:
The Val Venosta Railway ( Italian: → Ferrovia della Val Venosta) in a station in Mals, South Tyrol (Italy) is a good example of old and new, take a look at the Gallery, you'll see a “Railbus” in one vintage image and a “Railcar” in another contemporary image, both in the same station, though the new is definitely a Railcar, the word “Railbus” has however been left in the everyday language, (see images here: FerroviaValVenostaAMalles1974.jpg Vinschgaubahn 01.jpg)
Nonetheless, even if a Railbus is to be classified as a Railcar, (or a Railcoach or a Motorcar for that matter, please correct me here if i'm wrong), it deserves its own page.
Lastly, this uncertainty is also being talk over in the Russian and Swedish articles, where not alone, hope my insight has given some light to the dilemma, comments please! cheers to all ∞ Moebiusuibeom-en ( talk) 16:53, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
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It would seem that some of the pictures in this article do not match the definition given in the introductive summary, to wit a bus body having two fixed axles instead of bogies.
a − Modern-day railbus, built originally by Ferrostaal, entirely rebuilt and redesigned in Santa Cruz de la Sierra, Bolivia
Searching with these terms yields for exemple this series that seems to be the same multiple-unit railcar, each unit being clearly mounted on bogies. Also this picture.
b − Batara Kresna Railbus
Not speaking Indonesian at all, I am unable yet to form a definite and definitive opinion yet as to the Batara Kresna Railbus but some pics I found do seem to show bogies. Yes, I know, there is "railbus" right here in the name. At any rate, this one clearly is not a converted road-going bus.
Well, I guess that the world of
light rail is full of hybrids uncertain of their boundaries. I posit, however, that this article really should stick to what is laid out in the introductive summary. I am therefore of the opinion that the aformentioned pics be removed. What does everybody think about it ?
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17:06, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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Lets not confuse railcars with railbus! Many of us ask ourselves what distinguishes railbuses from railcars.
The term “railbus” (perhaps as a loan from German Schienenbus) in relation to modern passenger railcars is being used often!
And although the definitions of what is a Railbus between Germany, Italy, France, England, Sweden may vary slightly, they where all pioneers in this type of vehicles and all have one charecteristic in common; “lightweight street based vehicles that ran on smaller main line railines”, in other words, a Railcar is a smaller lighter powered main line rail vehicle while a Railbus is still smaller and lighter powered than a Railcar.
Here i include several reasons why today's railcars are being called “railbus”:
Here an example:
The Val Venosta Railway ( Italian: → Ferrovia della Val Venosta) in a station in Mals, South Tyrol (Italy) is a good example of old and new, take a look at the Gallery, you'll see a “Railbus” in one vintage image and a “Railcar” in another contemporary image, both in the same station, though the new is definitely a Railcar, the word “Railbus” has however been left in the everyday language, (see images here: FerroviaValVenostaAMalles1974.jpg Vinschgaubahn 01.jpg)
Nonetheless, even if a Railbus is to be classified as a Railcar, (or a Railcoach or a Motorcar for that matter, please correct me here if i'm wrong), it deserves its own page.
Lastly, this uncertainty is also being talk over in the Russian and Swedish articles, where not alone, hope my insight has given some light to the dilemma, comments please! cheers to all ∞ Moebiusuibeom-en ( talk) 16:53, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
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It would seem that some of the pictures in this article do not match the definition given in the introductive summary, to wit a bus body having two fixed axles instead of bogies.
a − Modern-day railbus, built originally by Ferrostaal, entirely rebuilt and redesigned in Santa Cruz de la Sierra, Bolivia
Searching with these terms yields for exemple this series that seems to be the same multiple-unit railcar, each unit being clearly mounted on bogies. Also this picture.
b − Batara Kresna Railbus
Not speaking Indonesian at all, I am unable yet to form a definite and definitive opinion yet as to the Batara Kresna Railbus but some pics I found do seem to show bogies. Yes, I know, there is "railbus" right here in the name. At any rate, this one clearly is not a converted road-going bus.
Well, I guess that the world of
light rail is full of hybrids uncertain of their boundaries. I posit, however, that this article really should stick to what is laid out in the introductive summary. I am therefore of the opinion that the aformentioned pics be removed. What does everybody think about it ?
Noliscient (
talk)
17:06, 18 June 2023 (UTC)