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SVDasein ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 07:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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"rv: perhaps a well meaning edit, but the spice of relevant and hearty context sure beats politically correct historical revisionism any day"
I have a problem with the quote
"sometimes to surprise their boyfriends when the lights went out."
First, given the percentage of homosexuals in society and the number of radium girls (10%) clearly 7 'radium girls' were homosexual. Clearly, they did not paint their nails or teeth for a boyfriend. The 7 'radium dykes' demand representation.
Second, there is no sitation at all that substantiates that any 'radium girl' colored her teeth or her nails. I want a sitation.
Without the necessary sitations the quote smacks of sexism.
tony
The above text was added on 1 Dec 2007 by 24.12.122.181
Hi, I don't know much about computers and editing etc but here is a link to an interview with a "radium girl" in which she states they would sneak home paint to paint their toenails. Re the above request for citation. I don't know how to put it in, but if someone else would like to then here it is:
http://mailman.mcmaster.ca/mailman/private/cdn-nucl-l/0606/msg00033.html
Rachel :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.75.37.125 ( talk) 07:37, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
I added a request for a citation to the statement "industrial safety standards were demonstrably enhanced for many decades." This seems to imply that standard may have been loosened in recent decades, or it could mean nothing much at all. At any rate, a citation of a real quote of what this lawsuit meant would be clearer. 64.252.85.0 ( talk) 20:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I would like to see a better citation for the statement:
"..while the owners and their scientists — familiar with the effects of radium — carefully avoided any exposure to it themselves; chemists at the plant used lead screens, masks and tongs."
The citation listed points to a blog post ( http://www.damninteresting.com/undark-and-the-radium-girls) in which the author makes the same statement without any citation of his own. At the end of his post, he lists this Wikipedia article as "Further Reading". Seems a bit circular. Where is the evidence for the claim that the company knew of the effects, had its owners and scientists "carefully avoid exposure" but then not encourage their workers to do the same?
There must somewhere be other records of this sort of thing. Most of the aircraft used in WWII had instruments whose dials had been painted in luminous paint, often using radium based paints. I was aware of a factory in Clerkenwell in London probably used for this purpose at some time in the past. When we came across this in 1990 the building was in use as a wine warehouse, but there was an awful lot of radiation in the building when an analysis was done. Most of this building was decontaminated and the waste removed to UKAEA at Harwell. Soarhead77 ( talk) 12:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I find it very confusing that the entry initially says the workers were in New Jersey and then it mentions employees in Illinois further down. Also, could the location of the Canadian workers be specified? Risssa ( talk) 00:45, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
A memorial to the Ottawa women was erected in 2011 and should be mentioned in any revision of this article or creation of a separate one treating the Ottawa events. http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/32596 http://www.greatplainslaborer.org/single_pic.cfm?PicID=319545&GalleryID=9624 http://www.voanews.com/content/radium-girls-remembered-for-role-in-shaping-us-labor-law-129169888/144746.html Cigardener55 ( talk) 14:13, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
I've chopped the "In literature, music and film" section as the entries were either unsourced, sourced to primary sources and/or in some cases apparent spam. Such a section could be useful if properly sourced. Vsmith ( talk) 20:45, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Arthur Roeder was the president of the United States Radium Corporation
https://books.google.de/books?id=5dNGAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA24-PP1}}
-- Stone ( talk) 21:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 19 January 2023 and 3 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Taysun20 ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Taysun20 ( talk) 18:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
this only mentions women and not men too
this seems more of a female empowerment article since what about the men that died. thats bot mentioned Krabs7281 ( talk) 15:56, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 August 2023 and 16 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Spaige1500 ( article contribs). Peer reviewers: Toner1111, Mmedrano10.
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SVDasein ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 07:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
—
"rv: perhaps a well meaning edit, but the spice of relevant and hearty context sure beats politically correct historical revisionism any day"
I have a problem with the quote
"sometimes to surprise their boyfriends when the lights went out."
First, given the percentage of homosexuals in society and the number of radium girls (10%) clearly 7 'radium girls' were homosexual. Clearly, they did not paint their nails or teeth for a boyfriend. The 7 'radium dykes' demand representation.
Second, there is no sitation at all that substantiates that any 'radium girl' colored her teeth or her nails. I want a sitation.
Without the necessary sitations the quote smacks of sexism.
tony
The above text was added on 1 Dec 2007 by 24.12.122.181
Hi, I don't know much about computers and editing etc but here is a link to an interview with a "radium girl" in which she states they would sneak home paint to paint their toenails. Re the above request for citation. I don't know how to put it in, but if someone else would like to then here it is:
http://mailman.mcmaster.ca/mailman/private/cdn-nucl-l/0606/msg00033.html
Rachel :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.75.37.125 ( talk) 07:37, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
I added a request for a citation to the statement "industrial safety standards were demonstrably enhanced for many decades." This seems to imply that standard may have been loosened in recent decades, or it could mean nothing much at all. At any rate, a citation of a real quote of what this lawsuit meant would be clearer. 64.252.85.0 ( talk) 20:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I would like to see a better citation for the statement:
"..while the owners and their scientists — familiar with the effects of radium — carefully avoided any exposure to it themselves; chemists at the plant used lead screens, masks and tongs."
The citation listed points to a blog post ( http://www.damninteresting.com/undark-and-the-radium-girls) in which the author makes the same statement without any citation of his own. At the end of his post, he lists this Wikipedia article as "Further Reading". Seems a bit circular. Where is the evidence for the claim that the company knew of the effects, had its owners and scientists "carefully avoid exposure" but then not encourage their workers to do the same?
There must somewhere be other records of this sort of thing. Most of the aircraft used in WWII had instruments whose dials had been painted in luminous paint, often using radium based paints. I was aware of a factory in Clerkenwell in London probably used for this purpose at some time in the past. When we came across this in 1990 the building was in use as a wine warehouse, but there was an awful lot of radiation in the building when an analysis was done. Most of this building was decontaminated and the waste removed to UKAEA at Harwell. Soarhead77 ( talk) 12:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I find it very confusing that the entry initially says the workers were in New Jersey and then it mentions employees in Illinois further down. Also, could the location of the Canadian workers be specified? Risssa ( talk) 00:45, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
A memorial to the Ottawa women was erected in 2011 and should be mentioned in any revision of this article or creation of a separate one treating the Ottawa events. http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/32596 http://www.greatplainslaborer.org/single_pic.cfm?PicID=319545&GalleryID=9624 http://www.voanews.com/content/radium-girls-remembered-for-role-in-shaping-us-labor-law-129169888/144746.html Cigardener55 ( talk) 14:13, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
I've chopped the "In literature, music and film" section as the entries were either unsourced, sourced to primary sources and/or in some cases apparent spam. Such a section could be useful if properly sourced. Vsmith ( talk) 20:45, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Arthur Roeder was the president of the United States Radium Corporation
https://books.google.de/books?id=5dNGAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA24-PP1}}
-- Stone ( talk) 21:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 19 January 2023 and 3 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Taysun20 ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Taysun20 ( talk) 18:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
this only mentions women and not men too
this seems more of a female empowerment article since what about the men that died. thats bot mentioned Krabs7281 ( talk) 15:56, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 August 2023 and 16 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Spaige1500 ( article contribs). Peer reviewers: Toner1111, Mmedrano10.
— Assignment last updated by Kmijares ( talk) 22:40, 15 November 2023 (UTC)