There are articles on racism against every type of racism you could think of but no article on afrophobia? That's systemic bias! YVNP ( talk) 18:01, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I deleted the India part in this edit [1] [2] as unencyclopedic per WP:FRINGE for the following reason: The edit makes the pseudohistorical claim that "light-skinned" "Aryans" invaded India and established the caste system. Such a narrative was coined by the British Empire in India during colonial times as a racial fantasy of the British to attempt a justification of their rule over the subcontinent. The references cited in the edit to "back up" such outdated and offensive ideas were carefully Synthesized based on partisan sources like Eric Margolis (who is known to make false and venomous accusations against Indians) and unreliable sources. The wikipedia articles Aryanism#British Raj and Indo-Aryan migration contain a vast plethora of scholarly material that dispute (and ultimately debunk) the notion of an "Aryan Invasion and caste establishment". The caste system existed in the region long prior to the Indo-Aryan migrations, and the Central Asians who migrated (not invaded) the subcontinent did so peacefully over the course of generations, and were integrated into the caste system over time. Ghanadar galpa ( talk) 01:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that racism against asians is getting enough attention in this article, especially compared to African-Americans and people of Middle-Eastern descent. Even in modern culture the Asain plays quite a backseat role in comparison to other "races" in society. I see Asains being treated worse than other minorities now. Bigotry now seems to be directed toward asians more than other people in the article. BTW I dunno how to sign the comment, so i'll just make a smily face, eh? {;-\> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.233.139.67 ( talk)
What I notice most is the lack of attention to Asian-Asian racism. DOR (HK) ( talk) 08:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
The article states: Racist opinions occurred in the works of some Arab historians and geographers. In the 14th century CE, the Tunisian Ibn Khaldun wrote...
The two sources given are this:
Better sources are needed for the claim. Bless sins ( talk) 02:38, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that this article does not go into depth about the reason why people are racist. Why is that? Does it require too much speculation? I am pretty sure that there is some genetic origin behind racism, ingrained into us by evolution. I think its the whole concept of "my kind" and "not my kind," but I really don't know. Fusion7 ( talk) 16:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Section "Evolutionary theories about the origins of racism" now has a final sentence (and paragraph) which looks out of place:
Perhaps it was moved by mistake when the image was moved up? Philcha ( talk) 21:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
This talk page is waaaay too huge. Would editors familiar with the material please tag talk sections with {{ resolved}} and {{ stale}} as appropriate and start archiving old talk threads? Thank you! Banjeboi 21:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Ordinarily I would be very ahppy to help out. But I have not actively participated in a discussion here - or made any major edits to the article - in a long time so I don't think I am qualified to judge threads resolved or stale. But it is a good idea. Slrubenstein | Talk 11:56, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Done****Yes, please go ahead and shrink it. Banjeboi 00:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
White separatism. In its current level it reads like "THE NEXT BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD!". It's embarrassing really. Wikipedia is supposed to keep a NPOV, especially on subjects that may be borderline hate-group related. Wikipedians should work to stop certain individuals from censoring criticism in such articles. The trend is quite alarming sometimes, I recently had an editor (at least he was very young, but very active in editing articles) that was arguing publicly that the 'stormfront' website is not racism related. -- Leladax ( talk) 23:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
The only article on anti-black racism is the article on stereotypes. There is a lot of anti-black racism which not at all stereptypical. YVNP ( talk) 01:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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The 'International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination' is quoted in the definition section, but it is done incorrectly.
The convention states '1. In this Convention, the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life." (see
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/cerd.htm)
In the Wiki article 'religion' is added in this quote. I can't find any source for this addition. Quite an important addition without any reference and hidden away in an official looking quote. Please adjust to the original convention text. 87.111.73.185 ( talk) 18:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Wiki after looking at the UN definition says "great catch". Yet Wiki has not yet caught the problem as stated in the entry "Editors need to examine definition of racism". Wiki's definition, even 37 days after "Editors need to examine . . ." was entered, still is one where belief is racism. Look at the UN definition again. Racism is an action! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.42.7.158 ( talk) 18:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
i know it may sound funny, but making fun of the way indian people talk, or saying things about how they smell are very offense. there are many ignorant people out there. don't become one of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.2.245.106 ( talk) 20:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC) If a comedian makes fun of all races then that's alright, everyone can laugh. If a comedian makes fun of only certain races then we have a very big problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.27.21 ( talk) 09:33, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
see above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Punkymonkey987 ( talk • contribs) 18:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
If a person criticizes one particular individual for having an obnoxious trait, which is held to be typical of his race, is the critique necessarily racist?
Does it depend on the direction of the inference? That is, if I criticize a person for being simple-minded and clumsy (and he just happens to be purple), does this mean I "hate" the purple race? Or is it more like, if I see a purple person and I assume he will turn out to be simple-minded and clumsy upon acquaintance that I am racist?
Note: I am not asking for an objective definition here. I'm sure there is some dispute regarding this matter. I am asking who the various sides are, and hoping to discover what those various sides think. -- Uncle Ed ( talk) 12:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
The opening definition of this article is lifted with tiny modification from Webster's Dictionary. I'm not familiar enough with the Wikipedia conventions to know if that's OK, but it seems fishy to me. Manyanswer ( talk) 03:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, is the Ketuanan Melayu (Malay Supremacy) concept as practiced in Malaysia considered racist? The term is listed under wikipedia's article on Institutional Racism. If yes, can an editor pls add Ketuanan Melayu to the 'See Also' section of the racism article. Thanks, nat Natthehat ( talk) 00:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
The belief that race(that is, genes) determines the traits and capacities of people is NOT racism. By that definition, thousands of scientists would be racist. Genes DO primarily determine how we are as people and each sub-race(caucasian, african, asian etc.) have some genes that are specific to them. There are many diseases that primarily affect only one sub-race or the other. For instance, cystic fibrosis is most common in western european people. How we metabolize drugs is also very dependent on which sub-race we belong too, there is nothing racist about that.
I believe the correct definion of a racist is a person who regardless of facts believes his own race to be superior to others. For instance, Hitler believed the Nordic race to be superior based on some very pseudo-scientific claims. But I don't think it's racist to say that Nordic people are better metabolizers of drug X if it's based on facts. T.R. 87.59.78.120 ( talk) 21:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering if anyone knows what the term is when a person is racist against their own race? I know this kind of racism exists however what i can't find is a the name for it nor can i find much information about it through search engines. If anyone could let me know that would be great and might make an interesting addition to this wikipedia entry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.210.18.1 ( talk) 11:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
This type of person is typically referred to as "self hating." 216.78.60.196 ( talk) 10:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
In France, home to Europe’s largest population of Muslims — about 6 million — as well as the continent’s largest community of Jews, about 600,000, anti-Jewish violence, property destruction, and racist language has been wildly increasing over the last several years and French-Jews are worried more every month that it will spiral even higher. Jewish leaders perceive as intensifying anti-Semitism in France, mainly among Muslims of Arab or African heritage, but also growing among Caribbean islanders from former colonies.[84][85]
That's the only few lines about racism in France. It may remain as short as this in such a general article, but the content is not representative at all.
This paragraph may be true, and may take part of a bigger article, but writting it alone makes the reader think racism in France is only about Arab people over Jewish people, which is totally wrong. With such an isolated paragraph, I felt like reading a standard right-wing anti-French Israeli newspaper. I don't want to put an opposite POV neither, but there's a few basic and objective things to say about racism in France in some lines:
I'm not a specialist about this question, neither a good writter, so I won't correct it on my own.
The current content is just chocking to a "Caucasian" French, as my personnal experience in my "real life" is very different from what's described here.
Sylvain -- 81.202.203.92 ( talk) 23:39, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
"Academic racism was pushed by white supremacists during the period when white people garnered great profits from slavery and colonialism"
And indeed discovered the obvious differences between themselves and the negroid peoples. De percy ( talk) 02:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
White people? All white people enjoyed profits from slavery and colonialism? please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.227.42.150 ( talk) 18:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
As did the colored people! De percy ( talk) 08:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Slavery and colonialism has indeed been prevelant all throughout human history. There is nothing new here. Europeans at the time were merely interested in the survival and prevalence of the fittest, and doing the best that they could for their particular group of people in an extremely competetive New World atmosphere. If the Negro in Africa had been as capable, he too would have done precisely the same, as he himself practiced tribal forms of slavery throughout Africa. 216.78.60.196 ( talk) 10:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps a paragraph about the relationship between tribalism and racism would be useful. G.D. Clayton Bigsby ( talk) 00:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
over the years scots have peformed raceism against english people living in scotland, similar things happen in wales to the english. 84.64.14.35 ( talk) 22:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I have seen more and more news articles showing the growing problem of racism. In an attempt to educate the world on the harms of racism I have started a forum. The forum is named Racism Awareness Forum and is open to all around the world to gather and give their stories and input into this subject. Please join and submit topics to try and bring this to the attention of the world.
There is also a chat room for the use of forum members. Lets educate the world on the harms of racism.
The website can be found at [4] .
Thanks Frank —Preceding unsigned comment added by Navyfrank67 ( talk • contribs) 01:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Why is there a section of this article devoted to this? Most racism is perpetuated by whites, and as far as Whites being the second largest group of victims of racist attacks would seem to have more to do with their proportion of the population. It just seems as if this is some sympathetic getsure to show "look we (Whites)are victims too." I personally have not had any white friend discuss experiencing racism to me to but I am only one person.: – — … ‘ “ ’ ” ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § Jaesi25 ( talk) 19:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
yess de president is barwak obama!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.68.57 ( talk) 21:58, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. Anti-white racism is prevalent all around the world, asianracism.blogspot.com documents some cases of racism between different ethnic groups, and against 'whites'. That's just one little blog that posts up articles from other places. However, the broader picture is that 'white' people do indeed face racism and discrimination on a daily basis - this is well documented, even if under-researched due to various political factors in western countries. That said, it's real, it exists and there is no reason not to document it and reference it. The section should remain and be enlarged with relevant cited material. 121.79.19.4 ( talk) 21:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree that there should a section dedicated to the subject of anti-White racism. However why is it on the general page of racism? There is no other dedicated section on this general page to any other forms of racism directed to any particular group. The anti-White section should be moved onto its own page, consistent with the current system as other ethnicities have their own pages as well. Transcendence ( talk) 19:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
You get a lot fifteen-year old This Is England fans swarming over it with childish-radicalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bm superpig ( talk • contribs) 12:37, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
While racism is most commonly accepted to be a product of European colonialism during the early modern period, several authors have put forward the idea that racism may have its roots in Classical Antiquity or the Middle Ages.
Who says this? As far as I know, hardly anyone thinks racism is something that was just invented by Europeans a couple centuries ago. Isn't it more commonly accepted that it has existed in all cultures, in all times? Maybe I'm countering original research with my own original research, but isn't racism a universal human flaw, based on our built-in fear of the unknown and human desire to categorize things? (ironically, isn't saying basically "racism was invented by Europeans" a racist statement in itself?) - kotra ( talk) 05:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I refer the picture depicted in this article, found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alaskadeathtrapa.jpg. I do not believe this is a relevant image for the Racism article. There is nothing to suggest that the poster was some type of mid 20th century example of racism. Jap referred to the the nationality of the Japanese people who had attacked the American (also a nationality) people. This is similar to Yankee, Pommy, Kiwi, Aussie, Paki, Frog, etc. These terms are not racially specific. I am calling for the image to be removed from this article. Please discuss. I shall complete the removal in 14 days if no substantiated objections can be made. OzWoden ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC).
It's not simply a belief that your race is superior to other. Racism is a philosophy imposed by society; Racism is.. is a cycle created by the misinformation provided by the media, institutions, and society in general. This leads to "racist" views- the that the oppressed people are inferior, that they are somehow as a people not as "thoughtful" or as "pure" as whites ( I say white simply because I do not know of any society in which whites are not at the top of the "power pyramid".. or call it what you will) So yes, blacks can be racists, society can and does poison you against your own people. And no, reverse racism is a contradiction not because racism is racism, it's because you can not BE racist against whites, you can descriminate based on race, but that is not racist, racism must be discrimination that is based throughout society, not just within a certain portion of it.
Also...
Whites are members of society and are definitely victims of racism This should be discussed in depth and if not, that's discriminatory within itself. 76.111.211.241 ( talk) 17:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC)Wyatt
I think the 20th century article needs to be massively expanded. I'll just give one example on France as I live there: the article mentions only the recent increase of anti-Jew racism from North Africans (in the 'Inter-minority variants' section), whereas the main racist trend in France these years has been the increase of xenophobia in general and the fear of immigration. In particular the resurection of the deeply rooted anti-Arab racism (which had been declining since 1962, with the de-facto nullification of the anti-Arab racist laws as the last Arab colony of France fought to its way to independence). Anti-Black racism is also on the rise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.85.103 ( talk) 03:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Not all "Hispanics" and Whites cannot have racial tension. Or at least Mexicans, since after all Mexicans are 40% white of their total pop in Mexico. I understand the Mexicans of color but this should be noted. When I say white, I dont just mean color of skin of "light-skinned" Mexicans because they are not light skinned their white, 40% are as white as Anglo Americans. White Mexicans and White Anglos both come from European colonists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.2.141.35 ( talk) 06:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
There is NO literature that covers Black race hatred toward White people. Why is that? This is particularly interesting when one considers that most interracial crime in America is committed by a Black person against a White person. (at about 100 to 1 btw) Should that be a secret? Is Wikipedia just to PC to relate the facts?
At the same time Black kids are being taught Grievance Entitlement thinking in the schools. That mode teaches kids White people are to blame for the troubles of Black people. This is not supported by the facts, but has been put into the curriculum by the Teachers' Union. This is not good and should be part of the article. If this article is anything but PC Propaganda then these issues should be covered. Robtmorris ( talk) 21:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
There are articles on racism against every type of racism you could think of but no article on afrophobia? That's systemic bias! YVNP ( talk) 18:01, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I deleted the India part in this edit [1] [2] as unencyclopedic per WP:FRINGE for the following reason: The edit makes the pseudohistorical claim that "light-skinned" "Aryans" invaded India and established the caste system. Such a narrative was coined by the British Empire in India during colonial times as a racial fantasy of the British to attempt a justification of their rule over the subcontinent. The references cited in the edit to "back up" such outdated and offensive ideas were carefully Synthesized based on partisan sources like Eric Margolis (who is known to make false and venomous accusations against Indians) and unreliable sources. The wikipedia articles Aryanism#British Raj and Indo-Aryan migration contain a vast plethora of scholarly material that dispute (and ultimately debunk) the notion of an "Aryan Invasion and caste establishment". The caste system existed in the region long prior to the Indo-Aryan migrations, and the Central Asians who migrated (not invaded) the subcontinent did so peacefully over the course of generations, and were integrated into the caste system over time. Ghanadar galpa ( talk) 01:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that racism against asians is getting enough attention in this article, especially compared to African-Americans and people of Middle-Eastern descent. Even in modern culture the Asain plays quite a backseat role in comparison to other "races" in society. I see Asains being treated worse than other minorities now. Bigotry now seems to be directed toward asians more than other people in the article. BTW I dunno how to sign the comment, so i'll just make a smily face, eh? {;-\> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.233.139.67 ( talk)
What I notice most is the lack of attention to Asian-Asian racism. DOR (HK) ( talk) 08:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
The article states: Racist opinions occurred in the works of some Arab historians and geographers. In the 14th century CE, the Tunisian Ibn Khaldun wrote...
The two sources given are this:
Better sources are needed for the claim. Bless sins ( talk) 02:38, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that this article does not go into depth about the reason why people are racist. Why is that? Does it require too much speculation? I am pretty sure that there is some genetic origin behind racism, ingrained into us by evolution. I think its the whole concept of "my kind" and "not my kind," but I really don't know. Fusion7 ( talk) 16:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Section "Evolutionary theories about the origins of racism" now has a final sentence (and paragraph) which looks out of place:
Perhaps it was moved by mistake when the image was moved up? Philcha ( talk) 21:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
This talk page is waaaay too huge. Would editors familiar with the material please tag talk sections with {{ resolved}} and {{ stale}} as appropriate and start archiving old talk threads? Thank you! Banjeboi 21:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Ordinarily I would be very ahppy to help out. But I have not actively participated in a discussion here - or made any major edits to the article - in a long time so I don't think I am qualified to judge threads resolved or stale. But it is a good idea. Slrubenstein | Talk 11:56, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Done****Yes, please go ahead and shrink it. Banjeboi 00:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
White separatism. In its current level it reads like "THE NEXT BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD!". It's embarrassing really. Wikipedia is supposed to keep a NPOV, especially on subjects that may be borderline hate-group related. Wikipedians should work to stop certain individuals from censoring criticism in such articles. The trend is quite alarming sometimes, I recently had an editor (at least he was very young, but very active in editing articles) that was arguing publicly that the 'stormfront' website is not racism related. -- Leladax ( talk) 23:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
The only article on anti-black racism is the article on stereotypes. There is a lot of anti-black racism which not at all stereptypical. YVNP ( talk) 01:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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The 'International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination' is quoted in the definition section, but it is done incorrectly.
The convention states '1. In this Convention, the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life." (see
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/cerd.htm)
In the Wiki article 'religion' is added in this quote. I can't find any source for this addition. Quite an important addition without any reference and hidden away in an official looking quote. Please adjust to the original convention text. 87.111.73.185 ( talk) 18:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Wiki after looking at the UN definition says "great catch". Yet Wiki has not yet caught the problem as stated in the entry "Editors need to examine definition of racism". Wiki's definition, even 37 days after "Editors need to examine . . ." was entered, still is one where belief is racism. Look at the UN definition again. Racism is an action! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.42.7.158 ( talk) 18:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
i know it may sound funny, but making fun of the way indian people talk, or saying things about how they smell are very offense. there are many ignorant people out there. don't become one of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.2.245.106 ( talk) 20:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC) If a comedian makes fun of all races then that's alright, everyone can laugh. If a comedian makes fun of only certain races then we have a very big problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.27.21 ( talk) 09:33, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
see above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Punkymonkey987 ( talk • contribs) 18:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
If a person criticizes one particular individual for having an obnoxious trait, which is held to be typical of his race, is the critique necessarily racist?
Does it depend on the direction of the inference? That is, if I criticize a person for being simple-minded and clumsy (and he just happens to be purple), does this mean I "hate" the purple race? Or is it more like, if I see a purple person and I assume he will turn out to be simple-minded and clumsy upon acquaintance that I am racist?
Note: I am not asking for an objective definition here. I'm sure there is some dispute regarding this matter. I am asking who the various sides are, and hoping to discover what those various sides think. -- Uncle Ed ( talk) 12:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
The opening definition of this article is lifted with tiny modification from Webster's Dictionary. I'm not familiar enough with the Wikipedia conventions to know if that's OK, but it seems fishy to me. Manyanswer ( talk) 03:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, is the Ketuanan Melayu (Malay Supremacy) concept as practiced in Malaysia considered racist? The term is listed under wikipedia's article on Institutional Racism. If yes, can an editor pls add Ketuanan Melayu to the 'See Also' section of the racism article. Thanks, nat Natthehat ( talk) 00:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
The belief that race(that is, genes) determines the traits and capacities of people is NOT racism. By that definition, thousands of scientists would be racist. Genes DO primarily determine how we are as people and each sub-race(caucasian, african, asian etc.) have some genes that are specific to them. There are many diseases that primarily affect only one sub-race or the other. For instance, cystic fibrosis is most common in western european people. How we metabolize drugs is also very dependent on which sub-race we belong too, there is nothing racist about that.
I believe the correct definion of a racist is a person who regardless of facts believes his own race to be superior to others. For instance, Hitler believed the Nordic race to be superior based on some very pseudo-scientific claims. But I don't think it's racist to say that Nordic people are better metabolizers of drug X if it's based on facts. T.R. 87.59.78.120 ( talk) 21:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering if anyone knows what the term is when a person is racist against their own race? I know this kind of racism exists however what i can't find is a the name for it nor can i find much information about it through search engines. If anyone could let me know that would be great and might make an interesting addition to this wikipedia entry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.210.18.1 ( talk) 11:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
This type of person is typically referred to as "self hating." 216.78.60.196 ( talk) 10:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
In France, home to Europe’s largest population of Muslims — about 6 million — as well as the continent’s largest community of Jews, about 600,000, anti-Jewish violence, property destruction, and racist language has been wildly increasing over the last several years and French-Jews are worried more every month that it will spiral even higher. Jewish leaders perceive as intensifying anti-Semitism in France, mainly among Muslims of Arab or African heritage, but also growing among Caribbean islanders from former colonies.[84][85]
That's the only few lines about racism in France. It may remain as short as this in such a general article, but the content is not representative at all.
This paragraph may be true, and may take part of a bigger article, but writting it alone makes the reader think racism in France is only about Arab people over Jewish people, which is totally wrong. With such an isolated paragraph, I felt like reading a standard right-wing anti-French Israeli newspaper. I don't want to put an opposite POV neither, but there's a few basic and objective things to say about racism in France in some lines:
I'm not a specialist about this question, neither a good writter, so I won't correct it on my own.
The current content is just chocking to a "Caucasian" French, as my personnal experience in my "real life" is very different from what's described here.
Sylvain -- 81.202.203.92 ( talk) 23:39, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
"Academic racism was pushed by white supremacists during the period when white people garnered great profits from slavery and colonialism"
And indeed discovered the obvious differences between themselves and the negroid peoples. De percy ( talk) 02:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
White people? All white people enjoyed profits from slavery and colonialism? please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.227.42.150 ( talk) 18:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
As did the colored people! De percy ( talk) 08:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Slavery and colonialism has indeed been prevelant all throughout human history. There is nothing new here. Europeans at the time were merely interested in the survival and prevalence of the fittest, and doing the best that they could for their particular group of people in an extremely competetive New World atmosphere. If the Negro in Africa had been as capable, he too would have done precisely the same, as he himself practiced tribal forms of slavery throughout Africa. 216.78.60.196 ( talk) 10:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps a paragraph about the relationship between tribalism and racism would be useful. G.D. Clayton Bigsby ( talk) 00:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
over the years scots have peformed raceism against english people living in scotland, similar things happen in wales to the english. 84.64.14.35 ( talk) 22:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I have seen more and more news articles showing the growing problem of racism. In an attempt to educate the world on the harms of racism I have started a forum. The forum is named Racism Awareness Forum and is open to all around the world to gather and give their stories and input into this subject. Please join and submit topics to try and bring this to the attention of the world.
There is also a chat room for the use of forum members. Lets educate the world on the harms of racism.
The website can be found at [4] .
Thanks Frank —Preceding unsigned comment added by Navyfrank67 ( talk • contribs) 01:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Why is there a section of this article devoted to this? Most racism is perpetuated by whites, and as far as Whites being the second largest group of victims of racist attacks would seem to have more to do with their proportion of the population. It just seems as if this is some sympathetic getsure to show "look we (Whites)are victims too." I personally have not had any white friend discuss experiencing racism to me to but I am only one person.: – — … ‘ “ ’ ” ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § Jaesi25 ( talk) 19:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
yess de president is barwak obama!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.68.57 ( talk) 21:58, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. Anti-white racism is prevalent all around the world, asianracism.blogspot.com documents some cases of racism between different ethnic groups, and against 'whites'. That's just one little blog that posts up articles from other places. However, the broader picture is that 'white' people do indeed face racism and discrimination on a daily basis - this is well documented, even if under-researched due to various political factors in western countries. That said, it's real, it exists and there is no reason not to document it and reference it. The section should remain and be enlarged with relevant cited material. 121.79.19.4 ( talk) 21:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree that there should a section dedicated to the subject of anti-White racism. However why is it on the general page of racism? There is no other dedicated section on this general page to any other forms of racism directed to any particular group. The anti-White section should be moved onto its own page, consistent with the current system as other ethnicities have their own pages as well. Transcendence ( talk) 19:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
You get a lot fifteen-year old This Is England fans swarming over it with childish-radicalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bm superpig ( talk • contribs) 12:37, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
While racism is most commonly accepted to be a product of European colonialism during the early modern period, several authors have put forward the idea that racism may have its roots in Classical Antiquity or the Middle Ages.
Who says this? As far as I know, hardly anyone thinks racism is something that was just invented by Europeans a couple centuries ago. Isn't it more commonly accepted that it has existed in all cultures, in all times? Maybe I'm countering original research with my own original research, but isn't racism a universal human flaw, based on our built-in fear of the unknown and human desire to categorize things? (ironically, isn't saying basically "racism was invented by Europeans" a racist statement in itself?) - kotra ( talk) 05:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I refer the picture depicted in this article, found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alaskadeathtrapa.jpg. I do not believe this is a relevant image for the Racism article. There is nothing to suggest that the poster was some type of mid 20th century example of racism. Jap referred to the the nationality of the Japanese people who had attacked the American (also a nationality) people. This is similar to Yankee, Pommy, Kiwi, Aussie, Paki, Frog, etc. These terms are not racially specific. I am calling for the image to be removed from this article. Please discuss. I shall complete the removal in 14 days if no substantiated objections can be made. OzWoden ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC).
It's not simply a belief that your race is superior to other. Racism is a philosophy imposed by society; Racism is.. is a cycle created by the misinformation provided by the media, institutions, and society in general. This leads to "racist" views- the that the oppressed people are inferior, that they are somehow as a people not as "thoughtful" or as "pure" as whites ( I say white simply because I do not know of any society in which whites are not at the top of the "power pyramid".. or call it what you will) So yes, blacks can be racists, society can and does poison you against your own people. And no, reverse racism is a contradiction not because racism is racism, it's because you can not BE racist against whites, you can descriminate based on race, but that is not racist, racism must be discrimination that is based throughout society, not just within a certain portion of it.
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Whites are members of society and are definitely victims of racism This should be discussed in depth and if not, that's discriminatory within itself. 76.111.211.241 ( talk) 17:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC)Wyatt
I think the 20th century article needs to be massively expanded. I'll just give one example on France as I live there: the article mentions only the recent increase of anti-Jew racism from North Africans (in the 'Inter-minority variants' section), whereas the main racist trend in France these years has been the increase of xenophobia in general and the fear of immigration. In particular the resurection of the deeply rooted anti-Arab racism (which had been declining since 1962, with the de-facto nullification of the anti-Arab racist laws as the last Arab colony of France fought to its way to independence). Anti-Black racism is also on the rise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.85.103 ( talk) 03:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Not all "Hispanics" and Whites cannot have racial tension. Or at least Mexicans, since after all Mexicans are 40% white of their total pop in Mexico. I understand the Mexicans of color but this should be noted. When I say white, I dont just mean color of skin of "light-skinned" Mexicans because they are not light skinned their white, 40% are as white as Anglo Americans. White Mexicans and White Anglos both come from European colonists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.2.141.35 ( talk) 06:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
There is NO literature that covers Black race hatred toward White people. Why is that? This is particularly interesting when one considers that most interracial crime in America is committed by a Black person against a White person. (at about 100 to 1 btw) Should that be a secret? Is Wikipedia just to PC to relate the facts?
At the same time Black kids are being taught Grievance Entitlement thinking in the schools. That mode teaches kids White people are to blame for the troubles of Black people. This is not supported by the facts, but has been put into the curriculum by the Teachers' Union. This is not good and should be part of the article. If this article is anything but PC Propaganda then these issues should be covered. Robtmorris ( talk) 21:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)