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There are 15 matches with "citation", 1 match with "cite", 10 {{ sfn}} links, no {{ rp}} links, 52 <ref>s, many of which are either bare URLs or else untemplated. Considering WP:CITEVAR, I would suggest that there is "no consistent style" under the terms of §6.1, therefore §6.1.1 does not apply in any point. Under §6.1.2 point 3 (and to a lesser extent points 1 and 4) adopting a uniform style would be an improvement. I would be WP:BOLD but knowing the attitudes of some senior editors can we seek consensus before I start. If there are no objections within the week I will start to work on it. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 18:31, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 ( talk) 22:39, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Raasay → Isle of Raasay – Per WP:WIAN this is the name that the OS uses and its website. "Raasay" can then become a DAB like Commons:Category:Raasay listing the ship, Eilean Ràrsaidh [1] and the distillery. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 16:38, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Contributors to the debate above may find it worthy of note that the proposer is employing inventive tactics to continue on another front, see also discussion. Mutt Lunker ( talk) 19:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
The early tenth century Scéla Cano meic Gartnáin says "A n-Inis moccu Ché[i]n ro-baí in Gartnán". Gartnain is the father of the hero Cano mac Gartnait and said to be king of hte Dal Riada. Inis moccu Chéin is identified by Colm Ó Baoill (‘Inis Moccu Chéin’, Scottish Gaelic Studies 12/1 (1976) 267-270) as Raasay. The basis for this seems related to relationship of Dùn Caan and the folk memory that it takes its name from Cannus, Denmark's son. Associating with Cannus with Cano mac Gartnait of the tale Scéla Cano meic Gartnáin.
The driving forces of the events of the tale reflect the Irish annals entries:
U668.3 Nauigatio Columbani episcopi cum reliquis sanctorum ad Insolam Uacce Albae, in qua fundauit aeclesiam; & nauigatio filiorum Gartnaidh ad Hiberniam cum plebe Sceth.
T668.1 Nauigaitío Colmani episcopi cum relíquiis sanctorum ad Insulam Vacce Albe in qua fundauit eclesiam. Et nauigatío filiorum Gartnaith ad Iberniam cum plebe Scith.
U670.4 Uenit genus Gartnaith de Hibernia.
T670.4 Uenit gens Gartnait de Hebernia.
Gartnait is mention in the 7th century Miniugud senchasa flier nAlban
Secht meic la Aedan .i. da Eochduig i. Eocho buide 7 Eocho find, Tuathal 7 Bran 7 Baithiue, Conaing, Gartnait.
Ceitri meic Gartnait meic Aedain .i. da ... [lost]
Cano mac Gartnait appears in the Irish annals:
AClon 683. Canon son of Gartnaitt entred into Religion.
U688.2 Occisio Canonn filii Gartnaidh.
T688.2 Occisió Canonn maic Gartnain.
CS688 Occissio Canoinn meic Carnait.
His son:
U673.3 Gabail Eliuin m. Cuirp & Conamail filii Canonn; & Cormacc Maele Fothartaigh moritur.
His daughter:
U690.3 Mors Finguine Longi & Feradhaigh Meith m. Nechtleicc; & Choblaith filia Canonn moritur.
T690.3 Mors Finguine Longi et Feradhaigh Meith maic Nectlecc, & Coblait filia Canond mortua est.
CS690 Mors Finguini Longilongi [expunct.] & Feradhaigh Meith meic Nectligh, et Coblaith filia Canonn mortua est
His grandson's pedigree appears in Cethri primchenéla Dail Riata with 8th century Genelach Cenel Gabrain pedigree:
Congus
mac Consamla mic Canai gairb mic Gartnait mic Aedain mic Gabrain
His great-grandson:
U731.6 Bellum inter filium Oengussa & filium Congussa, sed Bruideus uicit Talorcum fugientem.
T731.5 Cath eter mac Aengusa & mac Congusa sed Brudheus uicit Talorcum fugientem.
728. — The battle between the Picts and Dalriada, where the Picts was overcome was fought. There was a battle between the sonn of Enos and the son of Congus, where Brudeus vanquished Tolorg flying.
U734.5 Talorgg m. Congusso a fratre suo uinctus est, traditur in manus Pictorum & cum illis in aqua demersus est.
T734.4 Tolarg mac Congusa a brathair fen dia gabail & tuc i l-laim na Piccardach, & ro báidhedh leo-siden h-e.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:a601:a715:9a00:7865:9ba:c16:f520 ( talk) 17:38, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
I’m asking because in old Danish Raa means bordermark, and Ay means Island. So in Scandinavian language Isle of Bordermark/Bordermark’s Island would be Raasay.
Also, reading in the article the Isle has two different characteristics in the geology it wouldn’t be too far fetched thinking the landscape by itself express ”border” since that would be what makes it stand out from other isles for a seafarer.
link to Swedish Wikipedia page on the village Råå. In the first sentence it descibes the name origin. The village is Swedish but used to be Danish. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Råå Oddtapio~enwiki ( talk) 19:48, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
@ Crouch, Swale: Re this edit, let’s take things in sequence roughly from top to bottom.
“Not OS settlements” – a Road Atlas may be an indication of place names but it is not a reliable indicator of ‘settlements’ especially in such a thinly populated area. Some places now all but devoid of population may well have been extensively cleared in the past and some – most famously Hallaig – may well be deserving of an article about their history, but that’s not the same as their being currently populous.
“Places classified as settlements”- you have used Geograph as a reference but once again all this does is provide a name on an OS map.
In short the section created by the above edit is improperly cited, contains red links that are not likely to lead to articles (Arnish is a redirect to Raasay) and too long, hence my last edit. Ben Mac Dui 11:49, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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On 4 July 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved to Isle of Raasay. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
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There are 15 matches with "citation", 1 match with "cite", 10 {{ sfn}} links, no {{ rp}} links, 52 <ref>s, many of which are either bare URLs or else untemplated. Considering WP:CITEVAR, I would suggest that there is "no consistent style" under the terms of §6.1, therefore §6.1.1 does not apply in any point. Under §6.1.2 point 3 (and to a lesser extent points 1 and 4) adopting a uniform style would be an improvement. I would be WP:BOLD but knowing the attitudes of some senior editors can we seek consensus before I start. If there are no objections within the week I will start to work on it. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 18:31, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 ( talk) 22:39, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Raasay → Isle of Raasay – Per WP:WIAN this is the name that the OS uses and its website. "Raasay" can then become a DAB like Commons:Category:Raasay listing the ship, Eilean Ràrsaidh [1] and the distillery. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 16:38, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Contributors to the debate above may find it worthy of note that the proposer is employing inventive tactics to continue on another front, see also discussion. Mutt Lunker ( talk) 19:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
The early tenth century Scéla Cano meic Gartnáin says "A n-Inis moccu Ché[i]n ro-baí in Gartnán". Gartnain is the father of the hero Cano mac Gartnait and said to be king of hte Dal Riada. Inis moccu Chéin is identified by Colm Ó Baoill (‘Inis Moccu Chéin’, Scottish Gaelic Studies 12/1 (1976) 267-270) as Raasay. The basis for this seems related to relationship of Dùn Caan and the folk memory that it takes its name from Cannus, Denmark's son. Associating with Cannus with Cano mac Gartnait of the tale Scéla Cano meic Gartnáin.
The driving forces of the events of the tale reflect the Irish annals entries:
U668.3 Nauigatio Columbani episcopi cum reliquis sanctorum ad Insolam Uacce Albae, in qua fundauit aeclesiam; & nauigatio filiorum Gartnaidh ad Hiberniam cum plebe Sceth.
T668.1 Nauigaitío Colmani episcopi cum relíquiis sanctorum ad Insulam Vacce Albe in qua fundauit eclesiam. Et nauigatío filiorum Gartnaith ad Iberniam cum plebe Scith.
U670.4 Uenit genus Gartnaith de Hibernia.
T670.4 Uenit gens Gartnait de Hebernia.
Gartnait is mention in the 7th century Miniugud senchasa flier nAlban
Secht meic la Aedan .i. da Eochduig i. Eocho buide 7 Eocho find, Tuathal 7 Bran 7 Baithiue, Conaing, Gartnait.
Ceitri meic Gartnait meic Aedain .i. da ... [lost]
Cano mac Gartnait appears in the Irish annals:
AClon 683. Canon son of Gartnaitt entred into Religion.
U688.2 Occisio Canonn filii Gartnaidh.
T688.2 Occisió Canonn maic Gartnain.
CS688 Occissio Canoinn meic Carnait.
His son:
U673.3 Gabail Eliuin m. Cuirp & Conamail filii Canonn; & Cormacc Maele Fothartaigh moritur.
His daughter:
U690.3 Mors Finguine Longi & Feradhaigh Meith m. Nechtleicc; & Choblaith filia Canonn moritur.
T690.3 Mors Finguine Longi et Feradhaigh Meith maic Nectlecc, & Coblait filia Canond mortua est.
CS690 Mors Finguini Longilongi [expunct.] & Feradhaigh Meith meic Nectligh, et Coblaith filia Canonn mortua est
His grandson's pedigree appears in Cethri primchenéla Dail Riata with 8th century Genelach Cenel Gabrain pedigree:
Congus
mac Consamla mic Canai gairb mic Gartnait mic Aedain mic Gabrain
His great-grandson:
U731.6 Bellum inter filium Oengussa & filium Congussa, sed Bruideus uicit Talorcum fugientem.
T731.5 Cath eter mac Aengusa & mac Congusa sed Brudheus uicit Talorcum fugientem.
728. — The battle between the Picts and Dalriada, where the Picts was overcome was fought. There was a battle between the sonn of Enos and the son of Congus, where Brudeus vanquished Tolorg flying.
U734.5 Talorgg m. Congusso a fratre suo uinctus est, traditur in manus Pictorum & cum illis in aqua demersus est.
T734.4 Tolarg mac Congusa a brathair fen dia gabail & tuc i l-laim na Piccardach, & ro báidhedh leo-siden h-e.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:a601:a715:9a00:7865:9ba:c16:f520 ( talk) 17:38, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
I’m asking because in old Danish Raa means bordermark, and Ay means Island. So in Scandinavian language Isle of Bordermark/Bordermark’s Island would be Raasay.
Also, reading in the article the Isle has two different characteristics in the geology it wouldn’t be too far fetched thinking the landscape by itself express ”border” since that would be what makes it stand out from other isles for a seafarer.
link to Swedish Wikipedia page on the village Råå. In the first sentence it descibes the name origin. The village is Swedish but used to be Danish. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Råå Oddtapio~enwiki ( talk) 19:48, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
@ Crouch, Swale: Re this edit, let’s take things in sequence roughly from top to bottom.
“Not OS settlements” – a Road Atlas may be an indication of place names but it is not a reliable indicator of ‘settlements’ especially in such a thinly populated area. Some places now all but devoid of population may well have been extensively cleared in the past and some – most famously Hallaig – may well be deserving of an article about their history, but that’s not the same as their being currently populous.
“Places classified as settlements”- you have used Geograph as a reference but once again all this does is provide a name on an OS map.
In short the section created by the above edit is improperly cited, contains red links that are not likely to lead to articles (Arnish is a redirect to Raasay) and too long, hence my last edit. Ben Mac Dui 11:49, 28 February 2024 (UTC)