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Newest edit looks to have massive sections directly ripped from Janes without reference, including the table. I'd try and fix it up a bit later. Kazuaki Shimazaki 04:15, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
"The Russian sources claiming R-27 damage to the B-52 also list Iraqi MiG kills in direct contradiction to statements by Iraqi pilots, who deny such kills,[7] casting doubt upon the veracity of the claims."
I dont know what kind of an idiot fan boy wrote this, but the source does not say iraqi pilots deny it. Instead, it DOES give the incident as a kill, but says its unconfirmed. Andraxxus ( talk) ~
Also, everyone in wiki feels fine when taking a US source for a US equipments' glorious service history, (Example, it says "no F-15 lost in air combat and all downed F-15s are B/C of SAMs", even if other party claims otherwise) but everyone has a problem when taking a Russian source for a Russian military equipment. 21:10, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Lots of edits keep putting in the Houthi claims of actually downing F-15s over Yemen as facts. One reference even led to an article from theaviationist which, confusingly enough, at first suggests the F-15 was shot down but explicitly says it appeared to be unaffected by the hit in the video. Keep an eye out for biased edits claiming kills - so far from what I have seen, the videos show hits but do not confirm anything beyond that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Endemantis ( talk • contribs) 03:51, 24 March 2018 (UTC) Endemantis ( talk) 04:02, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
I think this may have been translated word-for-word from Russian "R-27T and ET variants can be used out of cloudiness, at least 15 degrees away from the bearing of sun, and 4 degrees away from the bearing of moon and ground-based head-contrasting conditions.". The first bit is OK although some articles are missing, but does anyone know what "ground-based head-contrasting conditions" are? Does the "head" mean "heat"? Could we say "ground conditions with high heat contrast"? Theeurocrat ( talk) 14:45, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
The Houthis have been using them as SAMs Farbne ( talk) 00:16, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
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Newest edit looks to have massive sections directly ripped from Janes without reference, including the table. I'd try and fix it up a bit later. Kazuaki Shimazaki 04:15, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
"The Russian sources claiming R-27 damage to the B-52 also list Iraqi MiG kills in direct contradiction to statements by Iraqi pilots, who deny such kills,[7] casting doubt upon the veracity of the claims."
I dont know what kind of an idiot fan boy wrote this, but the source does not say iraqi pilots deny it. Instead, it DOES give the incident as a kill, but says its unconfirmed. Andraxxus ( talk) ~
Also, everyone in wiki feels fine when taking a US source for a US equipments' glorious service history, (Example, it says "no F-15 lost in air combat and all downed F-15s are B/C of SAMs", even if other party claims otherwise) but everyone has a problem when taking a Russian source for a Russian military equipment. 21:10, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Lots of edits keep putting in the Houthi claims of actually downing F-15s over Yemen as facts. One reference even led to an article from theaviationist which, confusingly enough, at first suggests the F-15 was shot down but explicitly says it appeared to be unaffected by the hit in the video. Keep an eye out for biased edits claiming kills - so far from what I have seen, the videos show hits but do not confirm anything beyond that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Endemantis ( talk • contribs) 03:51, 24 March 2018 (UTC) Endemantis ( talk) 04:02, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
I think this may have been translated word-for-word from Russian "R-27T and ET variants can be used out of cloudiness, at least 15 degrees away from the bearing of sun, and 4 degrees away from the bearing of moon and ground-based head-contrasting conditions.". The first bit is OK although some articles are missing, but does anyone know what "ground-based head-contrasting conditions" are? Does the "head" mean "heat"? Could we say "ground conditions with high heat contrast"? Theeurocrat ( talk) 14:45, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
The Houthis have been using them as SAMs Farbne ( talk) 00:16, 19 January 2021 (UTC)