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Although Quinn's religon is not a key factor in the article, I was wondering if we could specifiy ( if anyone knows for sure) what Christian church she truly belongs too. She is obviously a Christian, but Glee has always hinted that she is a Roman Catholic to be exact. For example, Quinn wears a crucifix around her neck, she was president of the celibacy club (The RCC is huge on celibacy and chastity), One of the games she lead at celibacy club was called the " Immaculate Conception"(which is also a Catholic Marian dogma, stating that when concieved the Virgin Mary was free from original sin), and when she lost her virginity to Puck in her bedroom a painting of the Sacred Heart of Jesus (a Catholic devotion) was hanging above her bed. -- Willthacheerleader18 ( talk) 23:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm not even seeing why her religion is in any way important, and more than just trivial, and therefore shouldn't even be listed. CTJF83 chat 02:22, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
The infobox says that Quinn's older sister's name is Frannie, was this ever mentioned or hinted at on the show? I have never heard of her name being Frannie. -- Willthacheerleader18 ( talk) 01:01, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Quinn's older sister's name is stated in the episode 'Ballad' in season 1, on the scene when Quinn's dad tells her Finn is coming over for dinner or when her father finds out that Quinn is pregnant. I can't remember which! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.32.30 ( talk) 12:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
You write well. I have replaced 'from' with 'since' in the opening. But I have a couple of questions:
I wanna spend more time looking over this article, as per invitation to do so on copy editor page. Normally I don't much like spending time on fictional universes, but I was impressed by your prose.
Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 09:10, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
When saying: 'Quinn is regularly portrayed by actress Dianna Agron', is the intent here that the regular Glee character Quinn is played by actress Dianna Agron'? The wayy it reads right now creates some ambiguity, suggesting Agron is the regular actor, but someone else might have played Quinn at some stage. Your views? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterstrempel ( talk • contribs) 08:13, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
I propose the following wording change for brevity and flow of prose:
Agron auditioned for Glee coming from an acting career, having previously appeared in Skidmarks and other television guest appearances such as CSI: New York and Heroes. Agron came from a previous choreographic background, having taken dancing lessons since the age of three.[3] She was also involved in many music-theater productions in her youth.[3]
Agron auditioned for Glee coming from a background in dancing and acting. She has been taking dance classes since the age of three, appeared in many music theatre productions and has appeared in television roles for Skidmarks, CSI New York and Heroes.[3]
Your comments? Peter S Strempel | Talk 08:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
'With her all-American beauty' might be true, but it sounds like an opinion all the same, and would need to referenced as such. What about 'With her wholesome good looks'? Peter S Strempel | Talk 08:46, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
When citing Lauren Waterman, I think it might be best to say 'Interviewmagazine.com's Lauren Waterman' because readers are unlikely to know who she is, or what the context of the quote might be. Peter S Strempel | Talk 08:51, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
The wording about Sue Sylvester's intentions for the glee club comes across as a bit clumsy. What exactly is her motivation? Rather than say something ambiguous about bringing the club down, can we say the new recruits are intended to help 'destroy' the club from the inside? Or 'undermine the club's reputation'? Peter S Strempel | Talk 09:07, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Your call, but from a coherence point of view I think it should be mentioned that Breadstix, as mentioned in the plot summary, is a restaurant frequently featured as a rendezvous location for Glee characters. The single mention it gets now appears to assume everyone knows that.
Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 09:51, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
In the reception section, there is mention of a Vanity Fair article that was positive about Quinn's writing. I looked the article over, but couldn't find the mention. As it reads right now, the words imply the character Quinn wrote something good in the show. Should that be that Vanity Fair was positive about the scripting of the Quinn character by the show's scriptwriters?
Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 10:21, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
As of right now I'm done looking at words, but still want to check out the manual of style about quotes. There are a couple of longer ones at the end of the article that appear to be idiosyncratic, so I just want to double-check that they meet style requirements.
As always, when I have made my last edit and recommendation, I will read the whole thing one more time, and then post here and on the copy editors' page that I'm done. Sorry for the delays in finishing, but my real world schedule turned to shit unexpectedly late on Saturday.
For what it's worth, I think you guys have done a pretty good job with the plot summary, given that it was a pretty twisted and unconventional series of story arcs. But I'm only a casual viewer of the show: I just looked to make sure the words made sense.
Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 10:29, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
The manual of style says that quotes within quotes have the sequence " ... Quinn said, 'I want ...' ...". In other words, start the quote by the journalist with double", then use single ' for the quotes he uses in his prose. That has the disadvantage of giving you a salad of " ' ' " marks that might become hard to read. The manual also says that longer quotes can be usefully broken out as a block quote. That is the option I recommend to you. Thus the second paragraph in the reception section would become three —
Todd VanDerWerff of the A.V. Club said of the episode "Journey": "I think there's something very smart said in the early moments of the episode, when Puck is getting Quinn drunk and persuading her to have sex. In three years, neither of them will remember who Finn even WAS."[40] Entertainment Weekly's Darren Franich commented of the episode:
And the choice to intercut this performance with Quinn's labor? Brilliant. Terrible. Then brilliant again. While Vocal Adrenaline danced up and down the stairs in various impressive ways, Quinn said, "I want Mercedes to come with me, too!" While Jesse crooned "Mother! Just killed a man!" Quinn screeched though labor. ("Puck! You suck! You suck!" she screamed.) At some points, the lyrics of the song merged with what Quinn was saying. And then there was The Moment: Vocal Adrenaline formed a circle with Jesse in the middle, right as little Baby Beth entered the world.
It was weird, your honor. If nothing else, it was definitely the most visually arresting way to represent the birthing process I've ever seen outside of The Miracle of Life. But I kind of liked it. Somewhere, Freddie Mercury is nodding proudly, and saying, "World, I forgive you for We Will Rock You." [41]
Wording changes in this version include adding a full stop after V for A.V. Club (as per the website itself), putting A.V. Club in italics as the name of a publication, and adding Entertainment Weekly's before Darren Franich's name to make it clear he's not from A.V. Club as well.
Let me know what you think. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 02:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
PS: If you like that solution, I propose the same thing for the next paragraph. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 02:51, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
The sentence: 'Quinn being head cheerleader is often a large part in understanding her character.' is likely to be regarded as an assertion without a citation. It also seems to be clumsy wording. What about: 'Quinn's role as head cheerleader is central to understanding her character.' I won't change it, but bring it to your attention for GA time. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 14:39, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
In the second paragraph there's a summary of Quinn's rejection of Puck's renewed overtures: '...she wants to be alone. Quinn moves in with Puck ...' which is a bit abrupt. How did we move from her not want to being with Puck to moving in with him? There needs to be a linking word. Perhaps: 'However, she moves in with Puck for a short while until ...'? Your call. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 14:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
OK. I'm done. I still think that the wording about bringing the glee club 'down' is ambiguous, as indicated in my comment above, but that's your call. Let me know whether you need me to do anything else. Otherwise I'll close out the copyedit job at the guild page in the next couple of days. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 15:00, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Since there is some edit warring going on about this, I think an official discussion should take place. Now I don't know what was decided in the MOS discussion, but before that the lead always includes the characters real name with their nickname in quotes without any exception that I know (not counting when the name real name wasn't known for sure). Now if the new discussion changed that, then it shouldn't be in the lead, but if it didn't, it should be. JDDJS ( talk) 20:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
How about:
? D B D 01:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
He is not her significant others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.72.211.244 ( talk) 06:01, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Someone should add santana as a significant other since they slept together. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.63.127.62 ( talk) 04:47, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
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Although Quinn's religon is not a key factor in the article, I was wondering if we could specifiy ( if anyone knows for sure) what Christian church she truly belongs too. She is obviously a Christian, but Glee has always hinted that she is a Roman Catholic to be exact. For example, Quinn wears a crucifix around her neck, she was president of the celibacy club (The RCC is huge on celibacy and chastity), One of the games she lead at celibacy club was called the " Immaculate Conception"(which is also a Catholic Marian dogma, stating that when concieved the Virgin Mary was free from original sin), and when she lost her virginity to Puck in her bedroom a painting of the Sacred Heart of Jesus (a Catholic devotion) was hanging above her bed. -- Willthacheerleader18 ( talk) 23:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm not even seeing why her religion is in any way important, and more than just trivial, and therefore shouldn't even be listed. CTJF83 chat 02:22, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
The infobox says that Quinn's older sister's name is Frannie, was this ever mentioned or hinted at on the show? I have never heard of her name being Frannie. -- Willthacheerleader18 ( talk) 01:01, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Quinn's older sister's name is stated in the episode 'Ballad' in season 1, on the scene when Quinn's dad tells her Finn is coming over for dinner or when her father finds out that Quinn is pregnant. I can't remember which! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.32.30 ( talk) 12:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
You write well. I have replaced 'from' with 'since' in the opening. But I have a couple of questions:
I wanna spend more time looking over this article, as per invitation to do so on copy editor page. Normally I don't much like spending time on fictional universes, but I was impressed by your prose.
Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 09:10, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
When saying: 'Quinn is regularly portrayed by actress Dianna Agron', is the intent here that the regular Glee character Quinn is played by actress Dianna Agron'? The wayy it reads right now creates some ambiguity, suggesting Agron is the regular actor, but someone else might have played Quinn at some stage. Your views? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterstrempel ( talk • contribs) 08:13, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
I propose the following wording change for brevity and flow of prose:
Agron auditioned for Glee coming from an acting career, having previously appeared in Skidmarks and other television guest appearances such as CSI: New York and Heroes. Agron came from a previous choreographic background, having taken dancing lessons since the age of three.[3] She was also involved in many music-theater productions in her youth.[3]
Agron auditioned for Glee coming from a background in dancing and acting. She has been taking dance classes since the age of three, appeared in many music theatre productions and has appeared in television roles for Skidmarks, CSI New York and Heroes.[3]
Your comments? Peter S Strempel | Talk 08:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
'With her all-American beauty' might be true, but it sounds like an opinion all the same, and would need to referenced as such. What about 'With her wholesome good looks'? Peter S Strempel | Talk 08:46, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
When citing Lauren Waterman, I think it might be best to say 'Interviewmagazine.com's Lauren Waterman' because readers are unlikely to know who she is, or what the context of the quote might be. Peter S Strempel | Talk 08:51, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
The wording about Sue Sylvester's intentions for the glee club comes across as a bit clumsy. What exactly is her motivation? Rather than say something ambiguous about bringing the club down, can we say the new recruits are intended to help 'destroy' the club from the inside? Or 'undermine the club's reputation'? Peter S Strempel | Talk 09:07, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Your call, but from a coherence point of view I think it should be mentioned that Breadstix, as mentioned in the plot summary, is a restaurant frequently featured as a rendezvous location for Glee characters. The single mention it gets now appears to assume everyone knows that.
Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 09:51, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
In the reception section, there is mention of a Vanity Fair article that was positive about Quinn's writing. I looked the article over, but couldn't find the mention. As it reads right now, the words imply the character Quinn wrote something good in the show. Should that be that Vanity Fair was positive about the scripting of the Quinn character by the show's scriptwriters?
Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 10:21, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
As of right now I'm done looking at words, but still want to check out the manual of style about quotes. There are a couple of longer ones at the end of the article that appear to be idiosyncratic, so I just want to double-check that they meet style requirements.
As always, when I have made my last edit and recommendation, I will read the whole thing one more time, and then post here and on the copy editors' page that I'm done. Sorry for the delays in finishing, but my real world schedule turned to shit unexpectedly late on Saturday.
For what it's worth, I think you guys have done a pretty good job with the plot summary, given that it was a pretty twisted and unconventional series of story arcs. But I'm only a casual viewer of the show: I just looked to make sure the words made sense.
Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 10:29, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
The manual of style says that quotes within quotes have the sequence " ... Quinn said, 'I want ...' ...". In other words, start the quote by the journalist with double", then use single ' for the quotes he uses in his prose. That has the disadvantage of giving you a salad of " ' ' " marks that might become hard to read. The manual also says that longer quotes can be usefully broken out as a block quote. That is the option I recommend to you. Thus the second paragraph in the reception section would become three —
Todd VanDerWerff of the A.V. Club said of the episode "Journey": "I think there's something very smart said in the early moments of the episode, when Puck is getting Quinn drunk and persuading her to have sex. In three years, neither of them will remember who Finn even WAS."[40] Entertainment Weekly's Darren Franich commented of the episode:
And the choice to intercut this performance with Quinn's labor? Brilliant. Terrible. Then brilliant again. While Vocal Adrenaline danced up and down the stairs in various impressive ways, Quinn said, "I want Mercedes to come with me, too!" While Jesse crooned "Mother! Just killed a man!" Quinn screeched though labor. ("Puck! You suck! You suck!" she screamed.) At some points, the lyrics of the song merged with what Quinn was saying. And then there was The Moment: Vocal Adrenaline formed a circle with Jesse in the middle, right as little Baby Beth entered the world.
It was weird, your honor. If nothing else, it was definitely the most visually arresting way to represent the birthing process I've ever seen outside of The Miracle of Life. But I kind of liked it. Somewhere, Freddie Mercury is nodding proudly, and saying, "World, I forgive you for We Will Rock You." [41]
Wording changes in this version include adding a full stop after V for A.V. Club (as per the website itself), putting A.V. Club in italics as the name of a publication, and adding Entertainment Weekly's before Darren Franich's name to make it clear he's not from A.V. Club as well.
Let me know what you think. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 02:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
PS: If you like that solution, I propose the same thing for the next paragraph. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 02:51, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
The sentence: 'Quinn being head cheerleader is often a large part in understanding her character.' is likely to be regarded as an assertion without a citation. It also seems to be clumsy wording. What about: 'Quinn's role as head cheerleader is central to understanding her character.' I won't change it, but bring it to your attention for GA time. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 14:39, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
In the second paragraph there's a summary of Quinn's rejection of Puck's renewed overtures: '...she wants to be alone. Quinn moves in with Puck ...' which is a bit abrupt. How did we move from her not want to being with Puck to moving in with him? There needs to be a linking word. Perhaps: 'However, she moves in with Puck for a short while until ...'? Your call. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 14:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
OK. I'm done. I still think that the wording about bringing the glee club 'down' is ambiguous, as indicated in my comment above, but that's your call. Let me know whether you need me to do anything else. Otherwise I'll close out the copyedit job at the guild page in the next couple of days. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 15:00, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Since there is some edit warring going on about this, I think an official discussion should take place. Now I don't know what was decided in the MOS discussion, but before that the lead always includes the characters real name with their nickname in quotes without any exception that I know (not counting when the name real name wasn't known for sure). Now if the new discussion changed that, then it shouldn't be in the lead, but if it didn't, it should be. JDDJS ( talk) 20:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
How about:
? D B D 01:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
He is not her significant others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.72.211.244 ( talk) 06:01, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Someone should add santana as a significant other since they slept together. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.63.127.62 ( talk) 04:47, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
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