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I'd prefer to see the removal of parenthesis within station names unless they are universally included; which is fine as we would be reflecting common usage. Outside of this it feels like we are adding something extra for no reason.
MRSC 11:37, 17 October 2006 (UTC)reply
I am only going by National Rail and the station Rail reg. If the commen name is without the brackets (although i thougfht both were just as common) then go ahead.
Simply south 11:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)reply
2009
As you can see, the Station signage is plainly "Queenstown Road" - I recommend dropping the suffix/parentheses. best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 14:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)reply
But look at the physical station signage - honestly, I was quite surprised that it lacked the suffix, but even the modern SWT entrance sign (it is just legible if you blow up the station entrance image) lacks "Battersea"! I think "Battersea" is added to maps and timetables just as a means to avoid confusion with the two Queen's Road stations, but then again, isn't Queenstown Road sufficiently different from Queen's Road? best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 15:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Possibly not the best of things but according to a Google search,
Queenstown Road Battersea is in far more common usage than
Queenstown Road. 16:10, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I know, but that's not what the station is called on the signage! Also bear in mind Argumentum ad populum, which basically states that just because a many or all people believe something to be true, it doesn't necessarily follow that it is true. best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 17:22, 8 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Mmmmm, possibly out of date then! best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 16:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)reply
(Outdent)My personal recollection is that the station is referred to as "Queenstown Road Battersea", however I know there are plenty of examples of common usage not being the same as official names. Irrespective, it would have been nice to see some discussion and to reach a consensus before the move was made, as the previous discussion was over two years ago!
ColourSarge (
talk) 18:20, 12 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Gillingham (Kent) & Gillingham (Dorset) don't have the county suffixes on the station signs - you just have to know which one is which when you get there. However the evidence is that the official names of these stations include the counties. The station name boards are not definitive - there are stations which have different spellings on their nameboards. Southampton Airport (Parkway) was one for ages, although this may have changed when it was last rebranded. When I was last there, the name boards as Georgemas Jn didn't spell out Junction but just has Jn. Baker has it as Queenstown Rd. (Battersea), Quail has QUEENSTOWN RD (Battersea) although both of these are trumped by the Sectional Appendix which has QUEENSTOWN ROAD (BATTERSEA). This article needs renaming.
Railwayfan2005 (
talk) 23:01, 13 January 2009 (UTC)reply
So why does the station signage lack "(Battersea)"? best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 17:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)reply
For the same reason Gillingham (Kent) omits the (Kent).
Railwayfan2005 (
talk) 21:24, 26 March 2009 (UTC)reply
But this case is not analogous - how many "Queenstown Roads" are there around the UK? The signage says plain Queenstown Road. best,
194.80.106.135 (
talk) 16:23, 29 September 2009 (UTC)reply
It's down as plain "Queenstown Road" in both of the relevant TfL maps (Travelcard Zones and High Frequency services). Please see
[3]. best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 16:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Oh, and also "Queenstown Road" on the network map produced by South West Trains, who manage the station and who obviously maintain the signage. Please see PDF:
[4] best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 16:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)reply
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I'd prefer to see the removal of parenthesis within station names unless they are universally included; which is fine as we would be reflecting common usage. Outside of this it feels like we are adding something extra for no reason.
MRSC 11:37, 17 October 2006 (UTC)reply
I am only going by National Rail and the station Rail reg. If the commen name is without the brackets (although i thougfht both were just as common) then go ahead.
Simply south 11:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)reply
2009
As you can see, the Station signage is plainly "Queenstown Road" - I recommend dropping the suffix/parentheses. best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 14:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)reply
But look at the physical station signage - honestly, I was quite surprised that it lacked the suffix, but even the modern SWT entrance sign (it is just legible if you blow up the station entrance image) lacks "Battersea"! I think "Battersea" is added to maps and timetables just as a means to avoid confusion with the two Queen's Road stations, but then again, isn't Queenstown Road sufficiently different from Queen's Road? best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 15:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Possibly not the best of things but according to a Google search,
Queenstown Road Battersea is in far more common usage than
Queenstown Road. 16:10, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I know, but that's not what the station is called on the signage! Also bear in mind Argumentum ad populum, which basically states that just because a many or all people believe something to be true, it doesn't necessarily follow that it is true. best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 17:22, 8 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Mmmmm, possibly out of date then! best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 16:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)reply
(Outdent)My personal recollection is that the station is referred to as "Queenstown Road Battersea", however I know there are plenty of examples of common usage not being the same as official names. Irrespective, it would have been nice to see some discussion and to reach a consensus before the move was made, as the previous discussion was over two years ago!
ColourSarge (
talk) 18:20, 12 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Gillingham (Kent) & Gillingham (Dorset) don't have the county suffixes on the station signs - you just have to know which one is which when you get there. However the evidence is that the official names of these stations include the counties. The station name boards are not definitive - there are stations which have different spellings on their nameboards. Southampton Airport (Parkway) was one for ages, although this may have changed when it was last rebranded. When I was last there, the name boards as Georgemas Jn didn't spell out Junction but just has Jn. Baker has it as Queenstown Rd. (Battersea), Quail has QUEENSTOWN RD (Battersea) although both of these are trumped by the Sectional Appendix which has QUEENSTOWN ROAD (BATTERSEA). This article needs renaming.
Railwayfan2005 (
talk) 23:01, 13 January 2009 (UTC)reply
So why does the station signage lack "(Battersea)"? best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 17:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)reply
For the same reason Gillingham (Kent) omits the (Kent).
Railwayfan2005 (
talk) 21:24, 26 March 2009 (UTC)reply
But this case is not analogous - how many "Queenstown Roads" are there around the UK? The signage says plain Queenstown Road. best,
194.80.106.135 (
talk) 16:23, 29 September 2009 (UTC)reply
It's down as plain "Queenstown Road" in both of the relevant TfL maps (Travelcard Zones and High Frequency services). Please see
[3]. best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 16:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Oh, and also "Queenstown Road" on the network map produced by South West Trains, who manage the station and who obviously maintain the signage. Please see PDF:
[4] best,
Sunil060902 (
talk) 16:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)reply