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check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Britain's 1977 Coal Queen won her weight in
Babycham?
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 07:08, 20 November 2020 (UTC)reply
ALT2 ... that Queens of Industry were beauty queens representing industries, such as cotton and coal, that they or their family worked in? Source: Conway, Rebecca (2013-12-01). "Making the Mill Girl Modern?: Beauty, Industry, and the Popular Newspaper in 1930s' England". Twentieth Century British History. 24 (4): 518–541. doi:10.1093/tcbh/hwt004
Lajmmoore (
talk) 11:52, 9 November 2020 (UTC)reply
A little too repetitive ("Queens"..."queens"..."Industry"..."industries"). Maybe you can pipe the link?
Yoninah (
talk) 00:14, 16 November 2020 (UTC)reply
ALT2a ... that Queens of Industry were women who featured in beauty pageants, hosted by companies they worked for, in coal or textiles for example? Source: Conway, Rebecca (2013-12-01). "Making the Mill Girl Modern?: Beauty, Industry, and the Popular Newspaper in 1930s' England". Twentieth Century British History. 24 (4): 518–541. doi:10.1093/tcbh/hwt004
ALT2b ... that businesses established Queens of Industry competitions to choose women to represent industries, such as cotton and coal? Source: Conway, Rebecca (2013-12-01). "Making the Mill Girl Modern?: Beauty, Industry, and the Popular Newspaper in 1930s' England". Twentieth Century British History. 24 (4): 518–541. doi:10.1093/tcbh/hwt004
Lajmmoore (
talk) 09:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Lajmmoore: Frankly, I don't think the hook direction in ALTs 2, 2a, 2b is going anywhere. You are writing facts, not hooks. I think your original hook ideas focusing on people had better promise. Or something like:
ALT3: ... that in
Blackpool in 1936, the cotton, salt, fish, locomotive, potteries, wool, and silk industries all had Queens? Yoninah (
talk) 20:23, 17 November 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Lajmmoore: Thank you. We try not to mention names on the main page that have no Wikipedia link. If you want to write a stub for this person, it would be fine. Otherwise, maybe you want to write a hook mentioning another person who has a Wikipedia page?
Yoninah (
talk) 12:25, 18 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Yoninah That point on names makes sense, and is a rule I'd missed, so thanks. How about ..
@
Lajmmoore: OK, but why would anyone want to click on Railway Queen? The hook seems to be about something other than the bolded subject.
Yoninah (
talk) 18:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Lajmmoore: You need to think "hook" and not "statement of fact". You could drop the name from the your first hook and write:
OK, here is a full review: New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. ALT0a hook is hooky, verified, and cited inline. Images are freely licensed. QPQ done. ALT0a good to go.
Yoninah (
talk) 18:42, 18 November 2020 (UTC)reply
A fact from Queens of Industry appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 December 2020 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Britain's 1977 Coal Queen won her weight in
Babycham?
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Beauty Pageants, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
beauty pageants, their contestants and winners on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Beauty PageantsWikipedia:WikiProject Beauty PageantsTemplate:WikiProject Beauty PageantsBeauty Pageants articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women's History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Women's history and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women's HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject Women's HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Women's HistoryWomen's History articles
This article was created or improved as part of the Women in Red project. The editor(s) involved may be new; please
assume good faith regarding their contributions before making changes.Women in RedWikipedia:WikiProject Women in RedTemplate:WikiProject Women in RedWomen in Red articles
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 07:08, 20 November 2020 (UTC)reply
ALT2 ... that Queens of Industry were beauty queens representing industries, such as cotton and coal, that they or their family worked in? Source: Conway, Rebecca (2013-12-01). "Making the Mill Girl Modern?: Beauty, Industry, and the Popular Newspaper in 1930s' England". Twentieth Century British History. 24 (4): 518–541. doi:10.1093/tcbh/hwt004
Lajmmoore (
talk) 11:52, 9 November 2020 (UTC)reply
A little too repetitive ("Queens"..."queens"..."Industry"..."industries"). Maybe you can pipe the link?
Yoninah (
talk) 00:14, 16 November 2020 (UTC)reply
ALT2a ... that Queens of Industry were women who featured in beauty pageants, hosted by companies they worked for, in coal or textiles for example? Source: Conway, Rebecca (2013-12-01). "Making the Mill Girl Modern?: Beauty, Industry, and the Popular Newspaper in 1930s' England". Twentieth Century British History. 24 (4): 518–541. doi:10.1093/tcbh/hwt004
ALT2b ... that businesses established Queens of Industry competitions to choose women to represent industries, such as cotton and coal? Source: Conway, Rebecca (2013-12-01). "Making the Mill Girl Modern?: Beauty, Industry, and the Popular Newspaper in 1930s' England". Twentieth Century British History. 24 (4): 518–541. doi:10.1093/tcbh/hwt004
Lajmmoore (
talk) 09:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Lajmmoore: Frankly, I don't think the hook direction in ALTs 2, 2a, 2b is going anywhere. You are writing facts, not hooks. I think your original hook ideas focusing on people had better promise. Or something like:
ALT3: ... that in
Blackpool in 1936, the cotton, salt, fish, locomotive, potteries, wool, and silk industries all had Queens? Yoninah (
talk) 20:23, 17 November 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Lajmmoore: Thank you. We try not to mention names on the main page that have no Wikipedia link. If you want to write a stub for this person, it would be fine. Otherwise, maybe you want to write a hook mentioning another person who has a Wikipedia page?
Yoninah (
talk) 12:25, 18 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Yoninah That point on names makes sense, and is a rule I'd missed, so thanks. How about ..
@
Lajmmoore: OK, but why would anyone want to click on Railway Queen? The hook seems to be about something other than the bolded subject.
Yoninah (
talk) 18:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Lajmmoore: You need to think "hook" and not "statement of fact". You could drop the name from the your first hook and write:
OK, here is a full review: New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. ALT0a hook is hooky, verified, and cited inline. Images are freely licensed. QPQ done. ALT0a good to go.
Yoninah (
talk) 18:42, 18 November 2020 (UTC)reply