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I cannot find any news sources confirming but QudsNen is live, and is an example of Wikipedia:SKYISBLUE<nowiki> (stating common sense) that the Twitter account is live. As to when/why this happened exactly, I could only find tweet, but cannot verify if it was a legitimate backup Twitter account @Qudsn_en (January 26, 2021). "Our esteemed followers, Please be advised that QNN will stop publishing on its spare Twitter accounts and will return to the original accounts after about one and a half years of strenuous efforts that succeeded in restoring the accounts after being blocked by Twitter.[https://twitter.com/QudsNen @QudsNen]" ( Tweet) – via Twitter. Which seems to suggest when the original Twitter accounts were restored.
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Mondoweiss updated it's article and now says "Editor’s note: an earlier version of this article incorrectly stated that Quds News Network was affiliated to Hamas, when in fact it is an independent news source with no political affiliation. The article has since been corrected to reflect this."
So, now that source doesn't support the original claim. 90.175.126.36 ( talk) 10:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
The third paragraph has the following quote: 'According to QNN journalist Ahmed Yousef, "the ultimate mission of Quds News is not about business or journalism but to promote the Palestinian fight against Israel."'
However, the Christian Science Monitor article in the linked reference does not have this as a direct quote from Ahmed Yousef - it appears to be opinion/editorial from the author of the CSM article Joshua Mitnick. Chickensaltonchips ( talk) 20:41, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
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Quds is not affiliated with hamas or any militant groups correct it or u will face consequences 188.236.172.210 ( talk) 15:30, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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Quds is an independent palestinian news network that reports on palestine .. it is not affiliated with any hamas or other militant parties.. this is misinformation is costly and might jeopardize lives of innocent journalists hence the danger .. it must be reprimanded and corrected 188.236.172.210 ( talk) 16:05, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Quds News Network (Arabic: شبكة قدس الإخبارية) (QNN) is a Palestinian news agency reportedly affiliated with Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.[1] However, the agency disputes the affiliation with such groups and claims to be independent.[2]
This is inaccurate, misleading and a means to discredit the network and their sources.As announced by Quds themselves : The Quds News Network (QNN) is facing a new cyberattack; this time it is happening on Wikipedia.
"( Copyright violation removed – contents of https://qudsnen.co/statement-an-attempt-to-create-fake-narratives-about-quds-news-network-on-wikipedia/)"
Being someone who donates to Wikipedia, I'm disappointed that you could allow the editing to be made , supporting the Israeli propaganda, without any proof or proper investigation, just because the network is Palestinian, and is showing to the world what's happening there, when Israel is trying to hide it. I request you to correct your mistake and be true to your readers. Berighteous ( talk) 01:24, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Ahmed Yousef journalist for QNN is stated under Middle East eye as political advisor for Ismail Haniyah senior political leader of Hamas. QNN has ties to Hamas anyone saying otherwise is intellectually dishonest or a bold face liar. https://www.middleeasteye.net/users/ahmed-yousef 108.21.237.166 ( talk) 19:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Starting a new thread to attempt to settle in a fair and accurate way how this article should address ties between Hamas and QNN. My view is that our article should present the facts that are verifiable and useful knowledge about QNN but that this doesn't necessarily mean repeating every claim from journalistic sources.
As evidence that QNN has a notable affiliation with Hamas we have many reliable sources (e.g., Guardian, Al-Jazeera, Christian Science Monitor) saying QNN is "Hamas-affiliated", but I haven't seen any documentation in reliable secondary sources about what this affiliation entails. Elsewhere on this talk page, middleeasteye.net reports that Ahmed Yousef, a recently killed QNN journalist, was an advisor to Ismail Haniyah. This seems like a substantive tie. (I don't think this is the 25-year old QNN editor also named Ahmed Yousef).
On the other hand, QNN claims to be independent of Hamas. But they may clearly have motives to be deceptive about this, but I think that the fact they claim this is important. We also have at least on reliable source (Mondoweiss) that has retracted a statement that QNN is Hamas-affiliated replacing it with a statement that QNN is independent. For these reasons, I don't with our current version's blanket "Hamas-affiliated" in the lede is the best we can do. I preferred the earlier version that described this affiliation as "reported". I would be happy moving back in that direction and adding as much substance to characterize this "affiliation" (i.e., is it political, financial, social, organizational?) as possible. Groceryheist ( talk) 00:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
The opening paragraph must be neutral and general according to MOS:OPEN, and while there is consensus for the inclusion of this material in the lede, there is none for its inclusion in the opening paragraph. The burden of demonstrating that it belongs to the opening paragraph is on those who want its inclusion. Makeandtoss ( talk) 08:55, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
has been described by some sources as "Hamas-affiliated"understates it. As far as I can tell, many sources describe it as Hamas-affiliated, and very few describe it as independent - attributing this is a WP:DUE violation. BilledMammal ( talk) 11:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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I cannot find any news sources confirming but QudsNen is live, and is an example of Wikipedia:SKYISBLUE<nowiki> (stating common sense) that the Twitter account is live. As to when/why this happened exactly, I could only find tweet, but cannot verify if it was a legitimate backup Twitter account @Qudsn_en (January 26, 2021). "Our esteemed followers, Please be advised that QNN will stop publishing on its spare Twitter accounts and will return to the original accounts after about one and a half years of strenuous efforts that succeeded in restoring the accounts after being blocked by Twitter.[https://twitter.com/QudsNen @QudsNen]" ( Tweet) – via Twitter. Which seems to suggest when the original Twitter accounts were restored.
Shushugah (
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03:35, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Mondoweiss updated it's article and now says "Editor’s note: an earlier version of this article incorrectly stated that Quds News Network was affiliated to Hamas, when in fact it is an independent news source with no political affiliation. The article has since been corrected to reflect this."
So, now that source doesn't support the original claim. 90.175.126.36 ( talk) 10:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
The third paragraph has the following quote: 'According to QNN journalist Ahmed Yousef, "the ultimate mission of Quds News is not about business or journalism but to promote the Palestinian fight against Israel."'
However, the Christian Science Monitor article in the linked reference does not have this as a direct quote from Ahmed Yousef - it appears to be opinion/editorial from the author of the CSM article Joshua Mitnick. Chickensaltonchips ( talk) 20:41, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
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Quds is not affiliated with hamas or any militant groups correct it or u will face consequences 188.236.172.210 ( talk) 15:30, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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Quds is an independent palestinian news network that reports on palestine .. it is not affiliated with any hamas or other militant parties.. this is misinformation is costly and might jeopardize lives of innocent journalists hence the danger .. it must be reprimanded and corrected 188.236.172.210 ( talk) 16:05, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Quds News Network (Arabic: شبكة قدس الإخبارية) (QNN) is a Palestinian news agency reportedly affiliated with Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.[1] However, the agency disputes the affiliation with such groups and claims to be independent.[2]
This is inaccurate, misleading and a means to discredit the network and their sources.As announced by Quds themselves : The Quds News Network (QNN) is facing a new cyberattack; this time it is happening on Wikipedia.
"( Copyright violation removed – contents of https://qudsnen.co/statement-an-attempt-to-create-fake-narratives-about-quds-news-network-on-wikipedia/)"
Being someone who donates to Wikipedia, I'm disappointed that you could allow the editing to be made , supporting the Israeli propaganda, without any proof or proper investigation, just because the network is Palestinian, and is showing to the world what's happening there, when Israel is trying to hide it. I request you to correct your mistake and be true to your readers. Berighteous ( talk) 01:24, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Ahmed Yousef journalist for QNN is stated under Middle East eye as political advisor for Ismail Haniyah senior political leader of Hamas. QNN has ties to Hamas anyone saying otherwise is intellectually dishonest or a bold face liar. https://www.middleeasteye.net/users/ahmed-yousef 108.21.237.166 ( talk) 19:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Starting a new thread to attempt to settle in a fair and accurate way how this article should address ties between Hamas and QNN. My view is that our article should present the facts that are verifiable and useful knowledge about QNN but that this doesn't necessarily mean repeating every claim from journalistic sources.
As evidence that QNN has a notable affiliation with Hamas we have many reliable sources (e.g., Guardian, Al-Jazeera, Christian Science Monitor) saying QNN is "Hamas-affiliated", but I haven't seen any documentation in reliable secondary sources about what this affiliation entails. Elsewhere on this talk page, middleeasteye.net reports that Ahmed Yousef, a recently killed QNN journalist, was an advisor to Ismail Haniyah. This seems like a substantive tie. (I don't think this is the 25-year old QNN editor also named Ahmed Yousef).
On the other hand, QNN claims to be independent of Hamas. But they may clearly have motives to be deceptive about this, but I think that the fact they claim this is important. We also have at least on reliable source (Mondoweiss) that has retracted a statement that QNN is Hamas-affiliated replacing it with a statement that QNN is independent. For these reasons, I don't with our current version's blanket "Hamas-affiliated" in the lede is the best we can do. I preferred the earlier version that described this affiliation as "reported". I would be happy moving back in that direction and adding as much substance to characterize this "affiliation" (i.e., is it political, financial, social, organizational?) as possible. Groceryheist ( talk) 00:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
The opening paragraph must be neutral and general according to MOS:OPEN, and while there is consensus for the inclusion of this material in the lede, there is none for its inclusion in the opening paragraph. The burden of demonstrating that it belongs to the opening paragraph is on those who want its inclusion. Makeandtoss ( talk) 08:55, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
has been described by some sources as "Hamas-affiliated"understates it. As far as I can tell, many sources describe it as Hamas-affiliated, and very few describe it as independent - attributing this is a WP:DUE violation. BilledMammal ( talk) 11:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)