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This article is about the product, QuarkXPress, not the company; nevertheless, the history section is more about the company than the product. Moreover, whether or not this section is meant to be so, it strikes me as a subtle bit of negative advertising: taken together with the section in the introduction concerning Adobe InDesign, I think it is inappropriate. If I were to remove all benefit of the doubt towards the motive behind this section, I would accuse it of trying to spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) concerning QuarkXPress, and the company, in an effort to sway customers towards Adobe's product.
I strongly suggest that this be edited to present the history of the product in an indisputably neutral manner. mariox19 20:21, 16 August 2006 (UTC) mariox19 2006.08.16 at 20:20 GMT.
What brothers me is that I do not see Tim Gill's name anywhere. A Quark history without mentioning Tim Gill is silly and incomplete. Michael Yearsley
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The wording in this article, especially the features section, feels like Quark PR, and is not up to the standard of impartiality that is and should be demanded of a proper Wikipedia entry. For example, states that "for a period in the late 1990s, new versions were slow to be released", but it doesn't say how slow (1996 for version 4.1, 2003 for version 5). The article asserts that QuarkXPress is the dominant page layout program, but this has not been true for some time: Adobe InDesign outsold QuarkXPress as early as 2002. Current estimates give Adobe InDesign a slight lead over Quark in terms of use by the publishing industry (a little over 50%). The statement that Quark is a "drag-and-drop" program is not entirely accurate, either. Text and objects already placed in the document can be moved around with the mouse, however Quark does not allow you to drag text and graphics from other programs; images must be placed, and text must be imported or copied-and-pasted into the document.
"Version 6.5, released at the end of 2004, surprisingly took the lead in support for the Photoshop format (PSD) and positioned QuarkXPress as the only layout tool with true integrated image editing capabilities."
This statement is vague, biased, and at least partly false. The article says that Quark "took the lead" by introducing PSD support. Took the lead from who? InDesign offered PSD support long before Quark did. Quark did not offer proper support (i.e. recognizing layers) for PSD files until version 7.
The article also downplays the considerable anger generated over the years among Quark users by the company's poor track record of supporting its software, and the controversy caused by the (former) CEO's comments alienating Quark users (eg. Quark users are "committing suicide" by switching to InDesign). The article also neglects to mention customer complaints about Quark's lack of features and slow updates, in comparison to its chief rival, InDesign. Lastly, the article doesn't mention complaints about Quark's lack of support for things like OpenType fonts, image transparency and drop shadows (prior to version 7) in comparison to InDesign, which has supported such features for several versions now.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Www.teamhcn.com ( talk • contribs)
I am an employee in the prepress department of a large printing company, and we print for several people and companies, from everyday people to world-wide corporations. Granted, we are just one company, so what I say may not matter much, but about 70% of the art we receive to print is now in InDesign. The rest is either raw Photoshop or Illustrator files, a few Pagemaker or Freehand files, or Quark files (perhaps between 15%-18%). Most of those are Quark 4 or Quark 6 files. Very few files have come in Quark 7. It doesn't seem like many people are using it yet, at least among the companies and designers that we deal with. Most of the designers are using InDesign, now, by a large percentage. However, from what I have heard and learned about various printing companies, many of them (the printers) still prefer Quark Xpress. I don't know how many of the files that they receive are Quark as opposed to InDesign, though. So, I suppose it really depends on what group of people you are talking about: designers, printers, and so on. As I said, I am part of just one company, but I am in the target industry, both as a designer and prepressman/printer. KevinStuart 22:08 MDT, 2 October 2006
I also work in the prepress department of a printing company, printing for customers in Europe as well as the US. I use Quark, InDesign, Photoshop and Illustrator daily to process files sent to us by designers from many locations. I find Quark to be clumsy and troublesome, giving me fits with that bane of prepress: "fonts." InDesign, on the other hand, has a smooth, almost intuitive workflow. The people who stubbornly cling to Quark "because that's what we've always used" should give InDesign a try. I believe most would switch asap! If Quark had made their customer service more responsive, cleaned up their workflow and lowered their prices sooner, they would probably still be on top. Oh well, we do what we can. GeorgeHB ( talk) 03:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Do we really need a Version History section showing every release? I would think the most notable bits could be worked into the History section as a narrative. -- Hawaiian717 15:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
It would also be nice if there were prices listed of how much the different version cost then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.56.64.138 ( talk) 14:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
What are the differences in QuarkXPress "American English", "International English", and "Passport"? is Passport a lite or trial version? RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 17:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Fox. The American English version is just that. It has spelling and hyphenation for the American version of the English language. The International English version is more like British English and Australian English and will mark "theater" as wrong, suggesting the spelling of "theatre" instead. The Passport edition has spell checking and hyphenation for more than a dozen languages, including the above two, and is a sight more expensive.
I made some changes to the opening paragraphs -- I hope that reads better. Thanks for pointing out how that is unclear. - Robert Rapplean 02:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Version 8 is out now. Article should be updated. Misha ( talk) 18:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
"QuarkXPress also allows the ability to pre-flight a document. It works within the layout application itself and allows the user to jump directly to the conflicting object. Since then Adobe has implemented a similar feature in InDesign CS4" false statment. I work with Indesign CS3 and preflight is also implemented and works smooth in this version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.222.110.135 ( talk) 23:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
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The market share of QuarkXPress during the 1990s is referenced, but the present share is unmentioned, though it should be. Nicmart ( talk) 14:27, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
I would like to submit photos of QX1 manual, discs and Mac SE (for posterity) but I'm unsure about copyright. Could somebody advise me? Also (I'm new), I always have trouble signing-in. 149.86.91.53 ( talk) 18:11, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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This article is about the product, QuarkXPress, not the company; nevertheless, the history section is more about the company than the product. Moreover, whether or not this section is meant to be so, it strikes me as a subtle bit of negative advertising: taken together with the section in the introduction concerning Adobe InDesign, I think it is inappropriate. If I were to remove all benefit of the doubt towards the motive behind this section, I would accuse it of trying to spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) concerning QuarkXPress, and the company, in an effort to sway customers towards Adobe's product.
I strongly suggest that this be edited to present the history of the product in an indisputably neutral manner. mariox19 20:21, 16 August 2006 (UTC) mariox19 2006.08.16 at 20:20 GMT.
What brothers me is that I do not see Tim Gill's name anywhere. A Quark history without mentioning Tim Gill is silly and incomplete. Michael Yearsley
Michael Cassidy michael_cassidy@condenast.com
pasted from article space
The wording in this article, especially the features section, feels like Quark PR, and is not up to the standard of impartiality that is and should be demanded of a proper Wikipedia entry. For example, states that "for a period in the late 1990s, new versions were slow to be released", but it doesn't say how slow (1996 for version 4.1, 2003 for version 5). The article asserts that QuarkXPress is the dominant page layout program, but this has not been true for some time: Adobe InDesign outsold QuarkXPress as early as 2002. Current estimates give Adobe InDesign a slight lead over Quark in terms of use by the publishing industry (a little over 50%). The statement that Quark is a "drag-and-drop" program is not entirely accurate, either. Text and objects already placed in the document can be moved around with the mouse, however Quark does not allow you to drag text and graphics from other programs; images must be placed, and text must be imported or copied-and-pasted into the document.
"Version 6.5, released at the end of 2004, surprisingly took the lead in support for the Photoshop format (PSD) and positioned QuarkXPress as the only layout tool with true integrated image editing capabilities."
This statement is vague, biased, and at least partly false. The article says that Quark "took the lead" by introducing PSD support. Took the lead from who? InDesign offered PSD support long before Quark did. Quark did not offer proper support (i.e. recognizing layers) for PSD files until version 7.
The article also downplays the considerable anger generated over the years among Quark users by the company's poor track record of supporting its software, and the controversy caused by the (former) CEO's comments alienating Quark users (eg. Quark users are "committing suicide" by switching to InDesign). The article also neglects to mention customer complaints about Quark's lack of features and slow updates, in comparison to its chief rival, InDesign. Lastly, the article doesn't mention complaints about Quark's lack of support for things like OpenType fonts, image transparency and drop shadows (prior to version 7) in comparison to InDesign, which has supported such features for several versions now.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Www.teamhcn.com ( talk • contribs)
I am an employee in the prepress department of a large printing company, and we print for several people and companies, from everyday people to world-wide corporations. Granted, we are just one company, so what I say may not matter much, but about 70% of the art we receive to print is now in InDesign. The rest is either raw Photoshop or Illustrator files, a few Pagemaker or Freehand files, or Quark files (perhaps between 15%-18%). Most of those are Quark 4 or Quark 6 files. Very few files have come in Quark 7. It doesn't seem like many people are using it yet, at least among the companies and designers that we deal with. Most of the designers are using InDesign, now, by a large percentage. However, from what I have heard and learned about various printing companies, many of them (the printers) still prefer Quark Xpress. I don't know how many of the files that they receive are Quark as opposed to InDesign, though. So, I suppose it really depends on what group of people you are talking about: designers, printers, and so on. As I said, I am part of just one company, but I am in the target industry, both as a designer and prepressman/printer. KevinStuart 22:08 MDT, 2 October 2006
I also work in the prepress department of a printing company, printing for customers in Europe as well as the US. I use Quark, InDesign, Photoshop and Illustrator daily to process files sent to us by designers from many locations. I find Quark to be clumsy and troublesome, giving me fits with that bane of prepress: "fonts." InDesign, on the other hand, has a smooth, almost intuitive workflow. The people who stubbornly cling to Quark "because that's what we've always used" should give InDesign a try. I believe most would switch asap! If Quark had made their customer service more responsive, cleaned up their workflow and lowered their prices sooner, they would probably still be on top. Oh well, we do what we can. GeorgeHB ( talk) 03:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Do we really need a Version History section showing every release? I would think the most notable bits could be worked into the History section as a narrative. -- Hawaiian717 15:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
It would also be nice if there were prices listed of how much the different version cost then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.56.64.138 ( talk) 14:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
What are the differences in QuarkXPress "American English", "International English", and "Passport"? is Passport a lite or trial version? RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 17:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Fox. The American English version is just that. It has spelling and hyphenation for the American version of the English language. The International English version is more like British English and Australian English and will mark "theater" as wrong, suggesting the spelling of "theatre" instead. The Passport edition has spell checking and hyphenation for more than a dozen languages, including the above two, and is a sight more expensive.
I made some changes to the opening paragraphs -- I hope that reads better. Thanks for pointing out how that is unclear. - Robert Rapplean 02:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Version 8 is out now. Article should be updated. Misha ( talk) 18:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
"QuarkXPress also allows the ability to pre-flight a document. It works within the layout application itself and allows the user to jump directly to the conflicting object. Since then Adobe has implemented a similar feature in InDesign CS4" false statment. I work with Indesign CS3 and preflight is also implemented and works smooth in this version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.222.110.135 ( talk) 23:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
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The market share of QuarkXPress during the 1990s is referenced, but the present share is unmentioned, though it should be. Nicmart ( talk) 14:27, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
I would like to submit photos of QX1 manual, discs and Mac SE (for posterity) but I'm unsure about copyright. Could somebody advise me? Also (I'm new), I always have trouble signing-in. 149.86.91.53 ( talk) 18:11, 23 April 2021 (UTC)