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The chronology in the Qin dynasty collapse section say that the eunuch died and they conspired to force Qin ErShi to commit suicide. Neat trick.
When applying DEFAULTSORT and listas parameter values I try very hard to ignore grammatical errors in the articles. This time things were so bad that I had to take a stab at fixing things. The article needs a lot more work. JimCubb ( talk) 01:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I questioned the authenticity of the statement that the officials who called the deer a deer were executed on Talk:Zhao Gao, where I believe the discussion is more appropriate. Simply put, the cited book only states that they were "brought before the law" and certainly does not mention execution. If a decision is made in Zhao Gao, it should be ported to this page. -- Psyced ( talk) 03:32, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Cleaned up the name section. Kindly restore the actual info if reverted. We should probably start moving this guy to his actual English names (Qin Ershi, Second Emperor, etc.) and away from this Chinglishy hybrid but a move here should probably be made in tandem with a move at Qin Shi Huang. We'll work through it over there, since it gets more eyes. — LlywelynII 08:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to any particular title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 00:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Qin Er Shi →
Huhai – Per
[1].
Timmyshin (
talk) 19:24, 31 March 2018 (UTC)--Relisting.
Dekimasu
よ!
22:04, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 20:16, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
– Per User:Zanhe's comment in the previous RM discussion and WP:UE. Also see the comment by User:LlywelynII on this talk page. Timmyshin ( talk) 18:46, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
This should be revisited now In ictu oculi ( talk)
The result of the move request was: move the page to Qin Er Shi; the previous move request had minimal participation, and discussion here generally favored returning the article to its previous title. Dekimasu よ! 04:43, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Second Emperor of Qin → Qin Er Shi – "Qin Er Shi" is the original name of this page. As can be seen in the topic immediately above, a recent requested move moved "Qin Er Shi" to "Second Emperor of Qin". However, that requested move was a low-participation requested move, with only a single voter chiming in, and I believe that requested move should have been relisted instead of closed in order to garner more participation, and that it only passed due to this being a low-traffic page: note that the previous requested move also affected the much more high-traffic article and more prominent individual Qin Shi Huang, and that that portion of the requested move was then immediately overturned at Talk:Qin Shi Huang#Requested move 11 June 2018.
Now, RM history aside, the correct name for this article should be Qin Er Shi, not Second Emperor of Qin, for two reasons. First, Qin Er Shi is the WP:COMMONNAME even in English ( WP:UE). For example, on Google, "qin er shi" returns 54,600 hits, whereas "second emperor of qin" returns only 8,600 hits, an over 6-to-1 ratio in favor of Qin Er Shi. Second, for consistency with precedent: it makes no sense to favor "Second Emperor of Qin" over "Qin Er Shi" when we have the corresponding article " Qin Shi Huang" over "First Emperor of Qin".
— Lowellian ( reply) 00:32, 30 June 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasu よ! 18:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
...We get 10,700 hits for "qin er shi" compared to just 854 hits for "second emperor of qin", an overwhelming advantage for Qin Er Shi.I clicked on your links and got 850 hits vs. 764 hits. I'm not sure how you got 10700 hits. And the first 2 "qin er shi" hits are Wikipedia Books. And what is "vastly different" about the other Chinese eras? As far as I'm concerned, it's the same "Emperor X of Y" format vs. Pinyin transcription that we are discussing. Timmyshin ( talk) 08:05, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
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The chronology in the Qin dynasty collapse section say that the eunuch died and they conspired to force Qin ErShi to commit suicide. Neat trick.
When applying DEFAULTSORT and listas parameter values I try very hard to ignore grammatical errors in the articles. This time things were so bad that I had to take a stab at fixing things. The article needs a lot more work. JimCubb ( talk) 01:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I questioned the authenticity of the statement that the officials who called the deer a deer were executed on Talk:Zhao Gao, where I believe the discussion is more appropriate. Simply put, the cited book only states that they were "brought before the law" and certainly does not mention execution. If a decision is made in Zhao Gao, it should be ported to this page. -- Psyced ( talk) 03:32, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Cleaned up the name section. Kindly restore the actual info if reverted. We should probably start moving this guy to his actual English names (Qin Ershi, Second Emperor, etc.) and away from this Chinglishy hybrid but a move here should probably be made in tandem with a move at Qin Shi Huang. We'll work through it over there, since it gets more eyes. — LlywelynII 08:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to any particular title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 00:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Qin Er Shi →
Huhai – Per
[1].
Timmyshin (
talk) 19:24, 31 March 2018 (UTC)--Relisting.
Dekimasu
よ!
22:04, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 20:16, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
– Per User:Zanhe's comment in the previous RM discussion and WP:UE. Also see the comment by User:LlywelynII on this talk page. Timmyshin ( talk) 18:46, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
This should be revisited now In ictu oculi ( talk)
The result of the move request was: move the page to Qin Er Shi; the previous move request had minimal participation, and discussion here generally favored returning the article to its previous title. Dekimasu よ! 04:43, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Second Emperor of Qin → Qin Er Shi – "Qin Er Shi" is the original name of this page. As can be seen in the topic immediately above, a recent requested move moved "Qin Er Shi" to "Second Emperor of Qin". However, that requested move was a low-participation requested move, with only a single voter chiming in, and I believe that requested move should have been relisted instead of closed in order to garner more participation, and that it only passed due to this being a low-traffic page: note that the previous requested move also affected the much more high-traffic article and more prominent individual Qin Shi Huang, and that that portion of the requested move was then immediately overturned at Talk:Qin Shi Huang#Requested move 11 June 2018.
Now, RM history aside, the correct name for this article should be Qin Er Shi, not Second Emperor of Qin, for two reasons. First, Qin Er Shi is the WP:COMMONNAME even in English ( WP:UE). For example, on Google, "qin er shi" returns 54,600 hits, whereas "second emperor of qin" returns only 8,600 hits, an over 6-to-1 ratio in favor of Qin Er Shi. Second, for consistency with precedent: it makes no sense to favor "Second Emperor of Qin" over "Qin Er Shi" when we have the corresponding article " Qin Shi Huang" over "First Emperor of Qin".
— Lowellian ( reply) 00:32, 30 June 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasu よ! 18:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
...We get 10,700 hits for "qin er shi" compared to just 854 hits for "second emperor of qin", an overwhelming advantage for Qin Er Shi.I clicked on your links and got 850 hits vs. 764 hits. I'm not sure how you got 10700 hits. And the first 2 "qin er shi" hits are Wikipedia Books. And what is "vastly different" about the other Chinese eras? As far as I'm concerned, it's the same "Emperor X of Y" format vs. Pinyin transcription that we are discussing. Timmyshin ( talk) 08:05, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
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