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I think this article should be moved to the Kara-Khitai empire, or similar variants. Their administration was primarily imperial, mixed with some Central Asian practices. Khanate doesn't really describe the empire that well-- Confuzion 23:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
The term "Kara" is a Turkish word meaning "black", as in Kara Kum Desert (literally Black Sand). Historically, Kara has been used to denote Turkic People who are not from the ruling class. The term Kara might have been added later to describe Khitans under Turkic or Uighur rule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.247.198.111 ( talk) 16:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Takabeg ( talk) 17:25, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
http://en.cnki.com.cn/Article_en/CJFDTOTAL-XBSD200206030.htm
http://en.cnki.com.cn/Article_en/CJFDTOTAL-XYYJ200404006.htm
http://jis.oxfordjournals.org/content/17/3/379.short
http://jis.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2006/07/16/jis.etl035.full.pdf
http://asiecentrale.revues.org/index619.html
http://jis.oxfordjournals.org/content/17/3/379.short
coins
http://books.google.com/books?id=8FVsWq31MtMC&pg=PA41#v=onepage&q&f=false
Title as Emperor of China
http://books.google.com/books?id=8FVsWq31MtMC&pg=PA42#v=onepage&q&f=false
Rajmaan ( talk) 06:55, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Put primary sources into wikisource
In german
Rajmaan ( talk) 06:56, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Chinese language was dominant in both areas.
http://books.google.com/books?id=LbmP_1KIQ_8C&pg=PA114#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://cces.snu.ac.kr/article/jces3_4biran.pdf
Chinese people
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA27#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA146#v=onepage&q&f=false
Chinese prestige
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA97#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA98#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA99#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA102#v=onepage&q&f=false
The Kara-Khitans also reintroduced the Chinese system of Imperial government, since China was still held in respect and esteem in the region among even the Muslim population, Biran 2012, p. 90. Biran 2012, p. 90. and the Kara-Khitans used Chinese as their main official language. Pozzi & Janhunen & Weiers 2006, p. 114.
coins
http://books.google.com/books?id=8FVsWq31MtMC&pg=PA41#v=onepage&q&f=false
Title as Emperor of China
http://books.google.com/books?id=8FVsWq31MtMC&pg=PA42#v=onepage&q&f=false
Rajmaan ( talk) 04:05, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Qara Khitai. Jenks24 ( talk) 13:48, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Kara-Khitan Khanate →
Qara Khitai or
Qara-Khitai – Qara Khitai is the most commonly used name (
WP:COMMONNAME) in English language sources:
The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain t/ c 18:39, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Qara Khitai →
Western Liao – Considering the official name of this regime was "Great Liao", I believe it is more accurate to refer to it as "Western Liao". The term "Qara Khitai" was not used by the rulers to refer to their regime, but is instead a term of foreign origins. Furthermore, since the rulers and the regime itself were Sinicized, accepted Chinese traditions, adopted Chinese titles and claimed continuity from the previous Liao dynasty, among other things, using the term "Western Liao" to refer to this regime (as is the case for Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese and Japanese historians) is more accurate. This is not Sinocentrism, considering the official name of the regime was "Great Liao" and was located to the west of the original Liao dynasty which also used the official name "Great Liao". The name "Western Liao" can therefore better reflect the historical connection between the two regimes as well as their geographical location in relation to each other, as opposed to "Qara Khitai" which neither reflect the official name of the regime nor was it used by the rulers themselves.
Morrisonjohn022 (
talk) 13:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)--Relisting.
DannyS712 (
talk)
03:21, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Khar or khara is Turkic and Mongolic word meaning "black" and it is "black khitan" not "Qara" 202.9.46.99 ( talk) 06:07, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
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previous contents blanked for reasons of meaninglessness.
I think this article should be moved to the Kara-Khitai empire, or similar variants. Their administration was primarily imperial, mixed with some Central Asian practices. Khanate doesn't really describe the empire that well-- Confuzion 23:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
The term "Kara" is a Turkish word meaning "black", as in Kara Kum Desert (literally Black Sand). Historically, Kara has been used to denote Turkic People who are not from the ruling class. The term Kara might have been added later to describe Khitans under Turkic or Uighur rule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.247.198.111 ( talk) 16:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Takabeg ( talk) 17:25, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
http://en.cnki.com.cn/Article_en/CJFDTOTAL-XBSD200206030.htm
http://en.cnki.com.cn/Article_en/CJFDTOTAL-XYYJ200404006.htm
http://jis.oxfordjournals.org/content/17/3/379.short
http://jis.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2006/07/16/jis.etl035.full.pdf
http://asiecentrale.revues.org/index619.html
http://jis.oxfordjournals.org/content/17/3/379.short
coins
http://books.google.com/books?id=8FVsWq31MtMC&pg=PA41#v=onepage&q&f=false
Title as Emperor of China
http://books.google.com/books?id=8FVsWq31MtMC&pg=PA42#v=onepage&q&f=false
Rajmaan ( talk) 06:55, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Put primary sources into wikisource
In german
Rajmaan ( talk) 06:56, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Chinese language was dominant in both areas.
http://books.google.com/books?id=LbmP_1KIQ_8C&pg=PA114#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://cces.snu.ac.kr/article/jces3_4biran.pdf
Chinese people
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA27#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA146#v=onepage&q&f=false
Chinese prestige
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA97#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA98#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA99#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=B934LaVBaz8C&pg=PA102#v=onepage&q&f=false
The Kara-Khitans also reintroduced the Chinese system of Imperial government, since China was still held in respect and esteem in the region among even the Muslim population, Biran 2012, p. 90. Biran 2012, p. 90. and the Kara-Khitans used Chinese as their main official language. Pozzi & Janhunen & Weiers 2006, p. 114.
coins
http://books.google.com/books?id=8FVsWq31MtMC&pg=PA41#v=onepage&q&f=false
Title as Emperor of China
http://books.google.com/books?id=8FVsWq31MtMC&pg=PA42#v=onepage&q&f=false
Rajmaan ( talk) 04:05, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Qara Khitai. Jenks24 ( talk) 13:48, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Kara-Khitan Khanate →
Qara Khitai or
Qara-Khitai – Qara Khitai is the most commonly used name (
WP:COMMONNAME) in English language sources:
The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain t/ c 18:39, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Qara Khitai →
Western Liao – Considering the official name of this regime was "Great Liao", I believe it is more accurate to refer to it as "Western Liao". The term "Qara Khitai" was not used by the rulers to refer to their regime, but is instead a term of foreign origins. Furthermore, since the rulers and the regime itself were Sinicized, accepted Chinese traditions, adopted Chinese titles and claimed continuity from the previous Liao dynasty, among other things, using the term "Western Liao" to refer to this regime (as is the case for Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese and Japanese historians) is more accurate. This is not Sinocentrism, considering the official name of the regime was "Great Liao" and was located to the west of the original Liao dynasty which also used the official name "Great Liao". The name "Western Liao" can therefore better reflect the historical connection between the two regimes as well as their geographical location in relation to each other, as opposed to "Qara Khitai" which neither reflect the official name of the regime nor was it used by the rulers themselves.
Morrisonjohn022 (
talk) 13:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)--Relisting.
DannyS712 (
talk)
03:21, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Khar or khara is Turkic and Mongolic word meaning "black" and it is "black khitan" not "Qara" 202.9.46.99 ( talk) 06:07, 4 March 2022 (UTC)