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Current status: The end of Putinism and conclusive victory of Western-style liberal democratic UkrainePutin is in fact always ending up screwing anything he tries to accomplish. Under him, USSR collapsed [1] [2] [3], Russia lost wars in Pridnestrovie, Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechen, Abkhazie, Ossetia, Syria and Ukraine! All country is falling apart and everybody tries to run away or has to live in poverty. Corruption and violent crime are rampant! Now, people are getting even poorer and beginning to starve. Russia does not have any modern technology, only small number of oligarys rob [4] everybody and live in palaces, the rest of the population is terrorized [5] [6] [7]. He is in fact very sick - he has terminal cancer of several vital organs [8] [9] [10], as also confirmed to Milwaukee Sun by the ex-CIA retired military officer living in Tel-Aviv, speaking on condition of anonymity. He is also limping [11], and his hands are shaking, due to the severe and very painful illness of his legs and hands. He cannot be cured, and he takes blood baths inside the carcasses of hunted animals [12], as also reported by many reliable media outlets, like Chicago Tribune and Daily Mail. He ran his army in trouble in Ukraine, where half of the Russian soldiers were quickly killed by brave Ukrainian defenders of democratic European ways [13], and the other half just surrendered after witnessing that Ukrainians live in European comfort - with running water and sewage in many Ukrainian houses, electricity, washers and driers and flushable toilets, due to democracy. He now faces the prospect of surrendering to Volodymyr Zelinski, the brave Ukrainian president, and paying trillions of Euros to support Ukrainian progress and strengthening of European-democratic way of life in Ukraine! He tried to support American ex-President Trump [14] [15], but Americans quickly elected a much better, pro-Western and pro-NATO president, who supports the defense of Europe! These days, as reported by many very reputable Ukrainian sources, Putin is hiding in his cold, dark and wet bunker somewhere in the Uralb mountains. He will likely be soon deposed by the coup d'etat staged by his henchmen who do not like that he is always screwing up, or captured by European Ukrainian army. After that, he will hopefully be extradited to Haag or Tel Aviv, where he will be tried and hanged quickly.
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I cannot believe you missed the main motif: Make Russia great again after gorbachev and yeltsin yielded it to the West). Munich speech of Vladimir Putin, Foreign policy of Vladimir Putin.- Altenmann >talk 01:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Due to attempt of deletion article " ru:Путинизм" in ruwiki i want to save information in this article· Carn !? 12:24, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
This article is written mainly from journalistic and journalistic sources. The article in ruwiki have higher quality because it uses academic sources. I am currently also collecting sources from other Wikipedia (German, for example) and I am going to add information from them to this article.· Carn !? 11:27, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
I do not know whether or not there is reason to believe information in this article is disputed, but I have assumed good faith and turned another editor's free text 'disputed' note into proper use of a template. Jonathan Deamer ( talk) 17:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
This Article is very biased to be honest and argues not very plausible. There are actually no Oligarchs in Russia because the very very rich Enterpreneurs in Russia have no political power anymore in opposite to the US that is according to a serious American Study an Oligarchy. The Intelligence Services have also a lot of power in US and UK. The term Putinism itself is only a political buzz word and not a scientific term. The hatred of specific ethnic groups is not a part of Mr. Putins style of rule. Georgians were not victims of a hate campaign in Russia like Novaya Gazeta claimed.-- 88.65.185.114 ( talk) 13:39, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
The International support section contains no substantial information nor is it cited and should be removed. Even still, you can’t positively relate French right wing politics with Russian Putinism considering the vast differences in government, geography, history, economy etc. 216.73.160.9 ( talk) 21:56, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
sources 66 and 82 are the same. also it's a guy citing himself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A04:4540:7111:DF00:95CD:1166:ADF7:EFCC ( talk) 01:46, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Recently, categories relating to fascism and far-right politics have been added to this article and to other relating to Putin's regime or the war in Ukraine, but is there any basis for adding these categories? Labelling politicians fascist and comparing to Hitler is extremely common after all. -- 2804:248:f675:6f00:585f:cedd:f49a:da8b ( talk) 20:22, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Ymblanter and Qzd: You both reverted this troll] on main article but can you both ensure now that this IP hopper's trolling is reverted on this talk page as well? [1] I don't think anybody would want to entertain his demand to discuss his intended outright BLP violations and full-blown trolling contrary to the facts that Russia won Georgia war, won Chechen war, successfully expanded Assad's control over Syria and saved it from falling, etc. because WP:NOTAFORUM and WP:DENY are a thing. Orientls ( talk) 06:14, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Eurasianism has been recently removed in an edit by ADRIAN55 https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Putinism&oldid=1110774425
Does this removal have any basis? Eurasianism is a very clear characteristic of Putinism. AWishfulMan ( talk) 17:30, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Shouldn't Putinism be classified as fascism? It's labelled as such by outside sources, and it's justified and warrants the category. Firekong1 ( talk) 18:42, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
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Under the section Relation to Far-Left in the second paragraph:
"In October 2021, while criticizing the modern "Western agenda", he likened it the one of the Bolsheviks for being based on the advocacy of the "so-called social progress"."
I believe this should be altered to "he likened it to the one of the Bolsheviks" or "he likened it to that of the Bolsheviks", as the current sentence appears to be missing a determiner or function word. 2600:1008:B02C:3B83:0:15:9049:3B01 ( talk) 19:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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Current status: The end of Putinism and conclusive victory of Western-style liberal democratic UkrainePutin is in fact always ending up screwing anything he tries to accomplish. Under him, USSR collapsed [1] [2] [3], Russia lost wars in Pridnestrovie, Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechen, Abkhazie, Ossetia, Syria and Ukraine! All country is falling apart and everybody tries to run away or has to live in poverty. Corruption and violent crime are rampant! Now, people are getting even poorer and beginning to starve. Russia does not have any modern technology, only small number of oligarys rob [4] everybody and live in palaces, the rest of the population is terrorized [5] [6] [7]. He is in fact very sick - he has terminal cancer of several vital organs [8] [9] [10], as also confirmed to Milwaukee Sun by the ex-CIA retired military officer living in Tel-Aviv, speaking on condition of anonymity. He is also limping [11], and his hands are shaking, due to the severe and very painful illness of his legs and hands. He cannot be cured, and he takes blood baths inside the carcasses of hunted animals [12], as also reported by many reliable media outlets, like Chicago Tribune and Daily Mail. He ran his army in trouble in Ukraine, where half of the Russian soldiers were quickly killed by brave Ukrainian defenders of democratic European ways [13], and the other half just surrendered after witnessing that Ukrainians live in European comfort - with running water and sewage in many Ukrainian houses, electricity, washers and driers and flushable toilets, due to democracy. He now faces the prospect of surrendering to Volodymyr Zelinski, the brave Ukrainian president, and paying trillions of Euros to support Ukrainian progress and strengthening of European-democratic way of life in Ukraine! He tried to support American ex-President Trump [14] [15], but Americans quickly elected a much better, pro-Western and pro-NATO president, who supports the defense of Europe! These days, as reported by many very reputable Ukrainian sources, Putin is hiding in his cold, dark and wet bunker somewhere in the Uralb mountains. He will likely be soon deposed by the coup d'etat staged by his henchmen who do not like that he is always screwing up, or captured by European Ukrainian army. After that, he will hopefully be extradited to Haag or Tel Aviv, where he will be tried and hanged quickly.
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I cannot believe you missed the main motif: Make Russia great again after gorbachev and yeltsin yielded it to the West). Munich speech of Vladimir Putin, Foreign policy of Vladimir Putin.- Altenmann >talk 01:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Due to attempt of deletion article " ru:Путинизм" in ruwiki i want to save information in this article· Carn !? 12:24, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
This article is written mainly from journalistic and journalistic sources. The article in ruwiki have higher quality because it uses academic sources. I am currently also collecting sources from other Wikipedia (German, for example) and I am going to add information from them to this article.· Carn !? 11:27, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
I do not know whether or not there is reason to believe information in this article is disputed, but I have assumed good faith and turned another editor's free text 'disputed' note into proper use of a template. Jonathan Deamer ( talk) 17:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
This Article is very biased to be honest and argues not very plausible. There are actually no Oligarchs in Russia because the very very rich Enterpreneurs in Russia have no political power anymore in opposite to the US that is according to a serious American Study an Oligarchy. The Intelligence Services have also a lot of power in US and UK. The term Putinism itself is only a political buzz word and not a scientific term. The hatred of specific ethnic groups is not a part of Mr. Putins style of rule. Georgians were not victims of a hate campaign in Russia like Novaya Gazeta claimed.-- 88.65.185.114 ( talk) 13:39, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
The International support section contains no substantial information nor is it cited and should be removed. Even still, you can’t positively relate French right wing politics with Russian Putinism considering the vast differences in government, geography, history, economy etc. 216.73.160.9 ( talk) 21:56, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
sources 66 and 82 are the same. also it's a guy citing himself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A04:4540:7111:DF00:95CD:1166:ADF7:EFCC ( talk) 01:46, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Recently, categories relating to fascism and far-right politics have been added to this article and to other relating to Putin's regime or the war in Ukraine, but is there any basis for adding these categories? Labelling politicians fascist and comparing to Hitler is extremely common after all. -- 2804:248:f675:6f00:585f:cedd:f49a:da8b ( talk) 20:22, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Ymblanter and Qzd: You both reverted this troll] on main article but can you both ensure now that this IP hopper's trolling is reverted on this talk page as well? [1] I don't think anybody would want to entertain his demand to discuss his intended outright BLP violations and full-blown trolling contrary to the facts that Russia won Georgia war, won Chechen war, successfully expanded Assad's control over Syria and saved it from falling, etc. because WP:NOTAFORUM and WP:DENY are a thing. Orientls ( talk) 06:14, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Eurasianism has been recently removed in an edit by ADRIAN55 https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Putinism&oldid=1110774425
Does this removal have any basis? Eurasianism is a very clear characteristic of Putinism. AWishfulMan ( talk) 17:30, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Shouldn't Putinism be classified as fascism? It's labelled as such by outside sources, and it's justified and warrants the category. Firekong1 ( talk) 18:42, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
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Under the section Relation to Far-Left in the second paragraph:
"In October 2021, while criticizing the modern "Western agenda", he likened it the one of the Bolsheviks for being based on the advocacy of the "so-called social progress"."
I believe this should be altered to "he likened it to the one of the Bolsheviks" or "he likened it to that of the Bolsheviks", as the current sentence appears to be missing a determiner or function word. 2600:1008:B02C:3B83:0:15:9049:3B01 ( talk) 19:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)