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"Stravinsky based most of the composition on existing Baroque scores he found in libraries in Naples and London."; I read somewhere that Sergei Diaghilev had actually found them and started the whole thing by handing them to Stravinsky. -- 213.176.148.218 22:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Petrushka (ballet) is a more complete article and they are the same ballet under different names. Is there anything this article has that the other does not? IanThal 20:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I've heard and lectured on both. The two ballets are completely unrelated musically. Petrushka was a major ballet of Stravinsky's so-called Russian period while Pulcinella was one of the most important early pieces leading to neoclassicism. The Grove article on Stravinsky discusses both without making any suggestion that the topics are the same. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 14:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
About the orchestration of the suite would be needed as well, dont you think? Cheers! 130.206.68.4 ( talk) 15:05, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Is it unusual for a ballet to have a libretto? I am sure that the dancers are not singing, but most ballets don't seem to incorporate singing. Kortoso ( talk) 22:31, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
"some of the music may have been written by Domenico Gallo, Unico Wilhelm van Wassenaer, Carlo Ignazio Monza, and possibly Alessandro Parisotti."
Can this be clarified? The opening is from a Trio Sonata in G Major attributed to Gallo (see http://imslp.org/wiki/12_Trio_Sonatas_(Gallo%2C_Domenico) ).
CharlesDraper ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:53, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
The sources of the Stravinsky material could be clarified.. What I had anticipated finding was a list like this one:
1 Ouverture: Allegro moderato (Gallo: Trio Sonata I, 1st movement) 2 Serenata: Larghetto (Pergolesi: Il Flaminio. Act I. Polidoro) 3 Scherzino (Gallo: Trio Sonata II, 1st movement) 4 Allegro (Gallo: Trio Sonata II, 3rd movement) 5 Andantino (Gallo: Trio Sonata VIII, 1st movement) 6 Allegro (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act I. Vanella) 7 Ancora poco meno (Pergolesi: Cantata: Luce degli occhi miei) 8 Allegro Assai (Gallo: Trio Sonata III, 3rd movement) 9 Allegro (Pergolesi: Il Flaminio. Act I. Bastiano) 10 Largo (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act III. Nina, Ascanio, Van) 11 (Allegro) (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act II.) 12 Presto (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act II.) 13 (Largo) (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act II.) 14 Allegro alla breve (Gallo: Trio Sonata VII, 3rd movement) 15 Tarantella: Allegro moderato (Wassenaer: Concerto II, Chelleri: Conino VI) 16 Andantino (Parisotti: Canzona) 17 Allegro (Monza: Harpsichord Suite No. 1) 18 Gavotta: Allegro moderato (Monza: Harpsichord Suite No. 3) 19 Vivo (Pergolesi: Sinfonia for Cello and Basso) 20 Tempo di minue (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act I. Don Pietro) 21 Allegro assai (Gallo: Trio Sonata XII, 3rd movement)
I found this on the archived webpage: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Af5fWAe0I7QJ:www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,6575.0.html+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
A "reputable" source is at: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=viRpJ4cgJckC&pg=PA65&dq=monza+gallo+pergolesi+pulcinella&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcxtea0afZAhUpIMAKHdf0BKUQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=monza%20gallo%20pergolesi%20pulcinella&f=false
CharlesDraper ( talk) 09:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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"Stravinsky based most of the composition on existing Baroque scores he found in libraries in Naples and London."; I read somewhere that Sergei Diaghilev had actually found them and started the whole thing by handing them to Stravinsky. -- 213.176.148.218 22:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Petrushka (ballet) is a more complete article and they are the same ballet under different names. Is there anything this article has that the other does not? IanThal 20:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I've heard and lectured on both. The two ballets are completely unrelated musically. Petrushka was a major ballet of Stravinsky's so-called Russian period while Pulcinella was one of the most important early pieces leading to neoclassicism. The Grove article on Stravinsky discusses both without making any suggestion that the topics are the same. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 14:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
About the orchestration of the suite would be needed as well, dont you think? Cheers! 130.206.68.4 ( talk) 15:05, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Is it unusual for a ballet to have a libretto? I am sure that the dancers are not singing, but most ballets don't seem to incorporate singing. Kortoso ( talk) 22:31, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
"some of the music may have been written by Domenico Gallo, Unico Wilhelm van Wassenaer, Carlo Ignazio Monza, and possibly Alessandro Parisotti."
Can this be clarified? The opening is from a Trio Sonata in G Major attributed to Gallo (see http://imslp.org/wiki/12_Trio_Sonatas_(Gallo%2C_Domenico) ).
CharlesDraper ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:53, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
The sources of the Stravinsky material could be clarified.. What I had anticipated finding was a list like this one:
1 Ouverture: Allegro moderato (Gallo: Trio Sonata I, 1st movement) 2 Serenata: Larghetto (Pergolesi: Il Flaminio. Act I. Polidoro) 3 Scherzino (Gallo: Trio Sonata II, 1st movement) 4 Allegro (Gallo: Trio Sonata II, 3rd movement) 5 Andantino (Gallo: Trio Sonata VIII, 1st movement) 6 Allegro (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act I. Vanella) 7 Ancora poco meno (Pergolesi: Cantata: Luce degli occhi miei) 8 Allegro Assai (Gallo: Trio Sonata III, 3rd movement) 9 Allegro (Pergolesi: Il Flaminio. Act I. Bastiano) 10 Largo (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act III. Nina, Ascanio, Van) 11 (Allegro) (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act II.) 12 Presto (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act II.) 13 (Largo) (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act II.) 14 Allegro alla breve (Gallo: Trio Sonata VII, 3rd movement) 15 Tarantella: Allegro moderato (Wassenaer: Concerto II, Chelleri: Conino VI) 16 Andantino (Parisotti: Canzona) 17 Allegro (Monza: Harpsichord Suite No. 1) 18 Gavotta: Allegro moderato (Monza: Harpsichord Suite No. 3) 19 Vivo (Pergolesi: Sinfonia for Cello and Basso) 20 Tempo di minue (Pergolesi: Lo frate 'nnammorato. Act I. Don Pietro) 21 Allegro assai (Gallo: Trio Sonata XII, 3rd movement)
I found this on the archived webpage: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Af5fWAe0I7QJ:www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,6575.0.html+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
A "reputable" source is at: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=viRpJ4cgJckC&pg=PA65&dq=monza+gallo+pergolesi+pulcinella&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcxtea0afZAhUpIMAKHdf0BKUQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=monza%20gallo%20pergolesi%20pulcinella&f=false
CharlesDraper ( talk) 09:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC)