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Apparently the messageboard which was once at PubliusEnigma.com was getting visits from a member named PubliusEnigma who, according to at least one source, left a very clear prediction (and a sign of validity) in the form of the following message sometime around 2004/2005:
July 2nd, 2005
Hyde Park London
Approximately 11:11
Flashing white lights
Think Outside the Wall
[1]
July 2nd, of course, was the date of the Live 8 performance in which Pink Floyd reunited as a four-man band. The forum was apparently hacked very soon afterwards and this message seems to have been lost. -- Chinagreenelvis ( talk) 03:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
The whole "11:11" section of the article is pretty superfluous, to say the least. A movie trailer for a film called 11:11 that uses the 11th song from an album. Definitely a weird coincidence, not a marketing plot. -- afromme ( talk) 22:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
The "Table Tennis" point is irrelevant, as games were to 21 points up until 2001 (long after the album and puzzle debuted), when the ITTF changed the rules to 11 point games. -- ScrObot ( talk) 10:53, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Is there any possibility that this whole thing is a massive wind-up engineered by Gilmour, Mason and co. in response to all the Dark Side of the Rainbow etc nonsense?... Martyn Smith ( talk) 16:21, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
from interview with David Gilmour:
http://www.pinkfloydz.com/david_gilmour_webchat_jan_.htm
" Lynne from Floydian_Hemptress asks: Would you agree that the instrumental, Let's get Metaphysical, on your About Face cd, was a precurser to the later alledged phenomenon, known as Pink Floyd's Publius Enigma?
David: no it had nothing to do with it, there was no connection. The second thing was some silly record company thing that they thought up to puzzle people with. "
I suggest add this commentary in the main article.
There used to be an internet riddle game called The Stone, developed by Rod Bruinooge. The game included a number of visual riddles, and was "strongly influenced" by Publius Enigma. In 2004 Bruinooge released a film about the game's players called Stoners. Pink Floyd gave permission to use "several tracks from the Division Bell in the film's soundtrack." These facts can all be found in the wiki for Bruinooge. BTW, in 2006 he was elected to the Canadian Parliament. Given all this, I think this guy should be connected to the Publius Enigma article as a suspect. Maybe with a link to his wiki page. Ooze2b ( talk) 20:06, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
See WP:NOR. We can't make our own arguments - without sources linking the 'Publius enigma' to 11:11 policy says we shouldn't have such a section. Dougweller ( talk) 16:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Recent edits claim Publius Enigma is a hoax. That's fine, if some source can be shown to state this. The editor who is currently making these changes has not supplied a source, and continues to insert fallacious statements into the article not supported by the sources used for the claims. Particularly, "despite the band denies involvement" in front of "The Pop Life" published by the NYT, which makes no such claim. Further, stating that Penet remailer was an "illegal" service is opinion and POV. Mind matrix 00:29, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
The page is reaching a satisfactory compromise. Just one outstanding issue as far as I can see. The Mensa Society did not issue this 'enigma' as puzzle, nor offer any prizes to the effect. Yet, this has been removed from the page. Why ? This is the kind of misinformation that concerns me with this page. Please do not tarnish the integrity of The Mensa Society with this currently libellous page and reprehensible hoaxer 'uncle custard'. It needs to be mentioned that there is no evidence or record of mensa having issued any such puzzle or corresponding prize for membership or of 'uncle custard' even being a member. The rules for mensa membership have been spelled out from the beginning. If one has what it takes, they should apply to take the formal IQ test, and avoid silly falsehoods. ( Yanickborg ( talk) 11:26, 6 October 2014 (UTC))
I'm unaware of any sections or statements that need citations or sources. Is this still necessary? I'd like to work on fixing that if indeed it's still a problem. Chinagreenelvis ( talk) 20:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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Apparently the messageboard which was once at PubliusEnigma.com was getting visits from a member named PubliusEnigma who, according to at least one source, left a very clear prediction (and a sign of validity) in the form of the following message sometime around 2004/2005:
July 2nd, 2005
Hyde Park London
Approximately 11:11
Flashing white lights
Think Outside the Wall
[1]
July 2nd, of course, was the date of the Live 8 performance in which Pink Floyd reunited as a four-man band. The forum was apparently hacked very soon afterwards and this message seems to have been lost. -- Chinagreenelvis ( talk) 03:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
The whole "11:11" section of the article is pretty superfluous, to say the least. A movie trailer for a film called 11:11 that uses the 11th song from an album. Definitely a weird coincidence, not a marketing plot. -- afromme ( talk) 22:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
The "Table Tennis" point is irrelevant, as games were to 21 points up until 2001 (long after the album and puzzle debuted), when the ITTF changed the rules to 11 point games. -- ScrObot ( talk) 10:53, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Is there any possibility that this whole thing is a massive wind-up engineered by Gilmour, Mason and co. in response to all the Dark Side of the Rainbow etc nonsense?... Martyn Smith ( talk) 16:21, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
from interview with David Gilmour:
http://www.pinkfloydz.com/david_gilmour_webchat_jan_.htm
" Lynne from Floydian_Hemptress asks: Would you agree that the instrumental, Let's get Metaphysical, on your About Face cd, was a precurser to the later alledged phenomenon, known as Pink Floyd's Publius Enigma?
David: no it had nothing to do with it, there was no connection. The second thing was some silly record company thing that they thought up to puzzle people with. "
I suggest add this commentary in the main article.
There used to be an internet riddle game called The Stone, developed by Rod Bruinooge. The game included a number of visual riddles, and was "strongly influenced" by Publius Enigma. In 2004 Bruinooge released a film about the game's players called Stoners. Pink Floyd gave permission to use "several tracks from the Division Bell in the film's soundtrack." These facts can all be found in the wiki for Bruinooge. BTW, in 2006 he was elected to the Canadian Parliament. Given all this, I think this guy should be connected to the Publius Enigma article as a suspect. Maybe with a link to his wiki page. Ooze2b ( talk) 20:06, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
See WP:NOR. We can't make our own arguments - without sources linking the 'Publius enigma' to 11:11 policy says we shouldn't have such a section. Dougweller ( talk) 16:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Recent edits claim Publius Enigma is a hoax. That's fine, if some source can be shown to state this. The editor who is currently making these changes has not supplied a source, and continues to insert fallacious statements into the article not supported by the sources used for the claims. Particularly, "despite the band denies involvement" in front of "The Pop Life" published by the NYT, which makes no such claim. Further, stating that Penet remailer was an "illegal" service is opinion and POV. Mind matrix 00:29, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
The page is reaching a satisfactory compromise. Just one outstanding issue as far as I can see. The Mensa Society did not issue this 'enigma' as puzzle, nor offer any prizes to the effect. Yet, this has been removed from the page. Why ? This is the kind of misinformation that concerns me with this page. Please do not tarnish the integrity of The Mensa Society with this currently libellous page and reprehensible hoaxer 'uncle custard'. It needs to be mentioned that there is no evidence or record of mensa having issued any such puzzle or corresponding prize for membership or of 'uncle custard' even being a member. The rules for mensa membership have been spelled out from the beginning. If one has what it takes, they should apply to take the formal IQ test, and avoid silly falsehoods. ( Yanickborg ( talk) 11:26, 6 October 2014 (UTC))
I'm unaware of any sections or statements that need citations or sources. Is this still necessary? I'd like to work on fixing that if indeed it's still a problem. Chinagreenelvis ( talk) 20:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)