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Leon Hu 12/7/04
User:200.42.177.195 left the following message on Talk:Independence Day:
I wonder if National Day would be more appropriate vocabulary on this list of holidays in Chile. -- PFHLai 13:51, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Is this real ? -- 64.229.207.142 21:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Of course no. Whats happens with the people?!? -- Lady Kya ( talk) 13:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
CieloEstrellado, as I've told you several times, please stop writing in wrong data in this article.
Your most notorious mistakes are:
1) You keep stating that May 1 is a holiday since 2003 (On January 16, 2003, May 1 is established as a holiday in the Labor Code.), not even erasing the preexisting information (On 1931-04-30, President Carlos Ibáñez del Campo promulgated the "Decree Enforceable as Law" ("Decreto con Fuerza de Ley") 130, marking May 1 (May Day) as holiday.).
2) You keep stating that censuses are holidays since 1970 (On December 10, 1970 Law 17,374 established as holiday the day when the official census is held.), which isn't true: 1970 census WASN'T a holiday; censuses in 1982 and 1992 were holidays due to ad-hoc laws (18,116 and 19,116); law 19,790 (published in february 1992) modified law 17,374 to mark any further censuses as holidays (1992's was the first one due to this law). I cleared up that confusion in a revision, CITING sources, but you erased the entire paragraph.
3) You state that law 18,700 establishes holidays for elections (On May 6, 1988, Law 18,700 established that days coinciding with elections and plebiscites are to be legal holidays.), but this isn't the whole story: presidential (not parliamentary) elections have been holidays since the early XX century. Again, you erased the entire paragraph.
4) You keep erasing the link to the main "Días Feriados en Chile" source, but -oddly- not to a secondary link within the same source.
It would seem that each time you edit this page, you simply paste in a copy of your previous version of the contents, without bothering to read the new revision's differences. IMHO, that's not the proper way to edit wikipedia content.
I wrote this a few days ago in your talk page, but you don't even acknowledge it, so now I'm forced to call your attention in the article's discussion page.
Perhaps you don't want to believe me, and that's fine... but DO believe the sources I extracted the information from. Every piece of data I've written in this article can be traced back to the scanned copies of the Diario Oficial, available at http://www.diariooficial.cl/ .
So, please take the time to actually read the article as it stands now, admit that you've made some mistakes and stop replacing correct information with wrong data.
Mfarah ( talk) 15:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
You keep reverting the properly cited, properly sourced, information that I wrote in. Considering your behaviour in the Honduras articles, it seems you simply can not discuss or edit content following the Wikipedia guidelines. Enough is enough: I'm requesting a page protection to end this edit war.
190.196.70.195 ( talk) 14:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
OOPS: logged out without realizing it. Anyway, that comment's mine. Mfarah ( talk) 14:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
The phrase:
is not backed by an authoritative source, but by a self-published source added by the author himself (see below). It is also not neutral. I recommend that it be deleted if not properly sourced according to WP:V and WP:RS. ☆ CieloEstrellado 19:27, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
References
User:mfarah has used his own personal self-published site http://www.farah.cl/Feriados/ as a source for this article. The user has admitted the site is his at the article's talk page in the Spanish-language Wikipedia.
I removed the source because it seemingly violates WP:SPS, WP:ELNO #11 and possibly also WP:ELNO #4. It may be permissible under WP:ELMAYBE #4, but this needs to be assessed by a third-party, normally a Wikipedia administrator.
I advice User:mfarah against reinstating the link until the situation has been evaluated externally. ☆ CieloEstrellado 19:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
While trying to stay away from both of your mudslinging, I took another look at the farah.cl site. I have to say that it's hardly the reliable source that is preferred at en.wiki. Perhaps if the material was sourced from the primary material, as seems obvious to do? Cielo, do you have any issue with the material itself, or just the addition of the farah.cl link? Tan | 39 05:28, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I have appended this source from the article with a failed verification tag because it does not serve to back up the following statement found in the "Meaning of the January 1 holiday" subsection: However, nowadays (as of 2009) it's widely celebrated as the (civic) New Year holiday. The preceding phrase is meant to refer to Chile's case, but the disputed source was referring to New Year celebrations abroad, mainly Europe and other Christian nations, not just Chile.
Following the same criteria, I have also removed the following statement next to the January 1 holiday in the table: In the past it was a religious holiday (Feast of the Circumcision of Christ), but its original meaning has been lost (see What's the January 1 holiday about?). The whole backing and explanation for the preceding phrase was to be found in the "What's the January 1 holiday about?" subsection (now renamed "Meaning of the January 1 holiday"), but as already mentioned in my previous paragraph, that assertion is not properly referenced.
Please keep in mind that I'm not disputing the quality of the source itself, as it is perfectly valid under Wikipedia policy. I'm disputing that the source's content does not serve to back up that specific phrase in the article. Pristino ( talk)
Pristino: I think it's not a good idea to exclude the year-end banking holiday: it IS a national-wide holiday that is widely considered part of the holidays list for any given year. Also, the List of holidays page lists banking holidays for other countries (Canada, Gibraltar, Netherlands, Sri Lanka, Taiwan and United Kingdom), and several national holiday pages list them as well ( Australia (which also counts regional banking holidays), India, et cetera). I fail to see why only Chile should have its banking holiday cut away.
Please let's discuss this before doing any further modification.
Mfarah ( talk) 01:05, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
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If you have a project on Chile or holidays, you can trust this site! It has all the information in the world.
Leon Hu 12/7/04
User:200.42.177.195 left the following message on Talk:Independence Day:
I wonder if National Day would be more appropriate vocabulary on this list of holidays in Chile. -- PFHLai 13:51, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Is this real ? -- 64.229.207.142 21:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Of course no. Whats happens with the people?!? -- Lady Kya ( talk) 13:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
CieloEstrellado, as I've told you several times, please stop writing in wrong data in this article.
Your most notorious mistakes are:
1) You keep stating that May 1 is a holiday since 2003 (On January 16, 2003, May 1 is established as a holiday in the Labor Code.), not even erasing the preexisting information (On 1931-04-30, President Carlos Ibáñez del Campo promulgated the "Decree Enforceable as Law" ("Decreto con Fuerza de Ley") 130, marking May 1 (May Day) as holiday.).
2) You keep stating that censuses are holidays since 1970 (On December 10, 1970 Law 17,374 established as holiday the day when the official census is held.), which isn't true: 1970 census WASN'T a holiday; censuses in 1982 and 1992 were holidays due to ad-hoc laws (18,116 and 19,116); law 19,790 (published in february 1992) modified law 17,374 to mark any further censuses as holidays (1992's was the first one due to this law). I cleared up that confusion in a revision, CITING sources, but you erased the entire paragraph.
3) You state that law 18,700 establishes holidays for elections (On May 6, 1988, Law 18,700 established that days coinciding with elections and plebiscites are to be legal holidays.), but this isn't the whole story: presidential (not parliamentary) elections have been holidays since the early XX century. Again, you erased the entire paragraph.
4) You keep erasing the link to the main "Días Feriados en Chile" source, but -oddly- not to a secondary link within the same source.
It would seem that each time you edit this page, you simply paste in a copy of your previous version of the contents, without bothering to read the new revision's differences. IMHO, that's not the proper way to edit wikipedia content.
I wrote this a few days ago in your talk page, but you don't even acknowledge it, so now I'm forced to call your attention in the article's discussion page.
Perhaps you don't want to believe me, and that's fine... but DO believe the sources I extracted the information from. Every piece of data I've written in this article can be traced back to the scanned copies of the Diario Oficial, available at http://www.diariooficial.cl/ .
So, please take the time to actually read the article as it stands now, admit that you've made some mistakes and stop replacing correct information with wrong data.
Mfarah ( talk) 15:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
You keep reverting the properly cited, properly sourced, information that I wrote in. Considering your behaviour in the Honduras articles, it seems you simply can not discuss or edit content following the Wikipedia guidelines. Enough is enough: I'm requesting a page protection to end this edit war.
190.196.70.195 ( talk) 14:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
OOPS: logged out without realizing it. Anyway, that comment's mine. Mfarah ( talk) 14:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
The phrase:
is not backed by an authoritative source, but by a self-published source added by the author himself (see below). It is also not neutral. I recommend that it be deleted if not properly sourced according to WP:V and WP:RS. ☆ CieloEstrellado 19:27, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
References
User:mfarah has used his own personal self-published site http://www.farah.cl/Feriados/ as a source for this article. The user has admitted the site is his at the article's talk page in the Spanish-language Wikipedia.
I removed the source because it seemingly violates WP:SPS, WP:ELNO #11 and possibly also WP:ELNO #4. It may be permissible under WP:ELMAYBE #4, but this needs to be assessed by a third-party, normally a Wikipedia administrator.
I advice User:mfarah against reinstating the link until the situation has been evaluated externally. ☆ CieloEstrellado 19:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
While trying to stay away from both of your mudslinging, I took another look at the farah.cl site. I have to say that it's hardly the reliable source that is preferred at en.wiki. Perhaps if the material was sourced from the primary material, as seems obvious to do? Cielo, do you have any issue with the material itself, or just the addition of the farah.cl link? Tan | 39 05:28, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I have appended this source from the article with a failed verification tag because it does not serve to back up the following statement found in the "Meaning of the January 1 holiday" subsection: However, nowadays (as of 2009) it's widely celebrated as the (civic) New Year holiday. The preceding phrase is meant to refer to Chile's case, but the disputed source was referring to New Year celebrations abroad, mainly Europe and other Christian nations, not just Chile.
Following the same criteria, I have also removed the following statement next to the January 1 holiday in the table: In the past it was a religious holiday (Feast of the Circumcision of Christ), but its original meaning has been lost (see What's the January 1 holiday about?). The whole backing and explanation for the preceding phrase was to be found in the "What's the January 1 holiday about?" subsection (now renamed "Meaning of the January 1 holiday"), but as already mentioned in my previous paragraph, that assertion is not properly referenced.
Please keep in mind that I'm not disputing the quality of the source itself, as it is perfectly valid under Wikipedia policy. I'm disputing that the source's content does not serve to back up that specific phrase in the article. Pristino ( talk)
Pristino: I think it's not a good idea to exclude the year-end banking holiday: it IS a national-wide holiday that is widely considered part of the holidays list for any given year. Also, the List of holidays page lists banking holidays for other countries (Canada, Gibraltar, Netherlands, Sri Lanka, Taiwan and United Kingdom), and several national holiday pages list them as well ( Australia (which also counts regional banking holidays), India, et cetera). I fail to see why only Chile should have its banking holiday cut away.
Please let's discuss this before doing any further modification.
Mfarah ( talk) 01:05, 17 May 2010 (UTC)