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Area covered by records
The article currently states "The records at PRONI relate chiefly to the North of Ireland (present day Northern Ireland and the three border counties of Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan in the Republic of Ireland)." I suggest that 'the Province of Ulster' is a more precise way of referring to the area described by the words within brackets. I edited it accordingly, but my edit was reverted without explanation. I propose to reinstate the edit. I will let this proposal stand for a reasonable period before doing so. If there are no comments, I will reinstate the edit. In those circumstances, I request anyone who disagrees with the edit to state their reasons here and allow a reasonable time before reverting it.
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I agree with your argument as far as it goes: "the North of Ireland" is normally a synonym (or euphemism) for Northern Ireland (i.e. the Six Counties), favoured by those trying to sidestep the political issues; whereas the Province of Ulster, of course, includes all nine counties. However, I would question whether the claim is accurate in the first place. Looking at PRONI's website, I can only see it referring to Northern Ireland. I'm sure that it has a few holdings that do spill over into adjacent counties, but I suspect that these are only a tiny minority. Do we have a reliable source stating that its acquisitions policy also covers Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan?
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Thank you for this. In light of your comments, I have amended the article to read 'The records at PRONI relate chiefly to present day
Northern Ireland. The office holds a number of records relating to other parts of the island of Ireland ...'.
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The article currently states "The records at PRONI relate chiefly to the North of Ireland (present day Northern Ireland and the three border counties of Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan in the Republic of Ireland)." I suggest that 'the Province of Ulster' is a more precise way of referring to the area described by the words within brackets. I edited it accordingly, but my edit was reverted without explanation. I propose to reinstate the edit. I will let this proposal stand for a reasonable period before doing so. If there are no comments, I will reinstate the edit. In those circumstances, I request anyone who disagrees with the edit to state their reasons here and allow a reasonable time before reverting it.
Alekksandr (
talk) 18:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)reply
I agree with your argument as far as it goes: "the North of Ireland" is normally a synonym (or euphemism) for Northern Ireland (i.e. the Six Counties), favoured by those trying to sidestep the political issues; whereas the Province of Ulster, of course, includes all nine counties. However, I would question whether the claim is accurate in the first place. Looking at PRONI's website, I can only see it referring to Northern Ireland. I'm sure that it has a few holdings that do spill over into adjacent counties, but I suspect that these are only a tiny minority. Do we have a reliable source stating that its acquisitions policy also covers Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan?
GrindtXX (
talk) 22:16, 19 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Thank you for this. In light of your comments, I have amended the article to read 'The records at PRONI relate chiefly to present day
Northern Ireland. The office holds a number of records relating to other parts of the island of Ireland ...'.
Alekksandr (
talk) 19:19, 21 June 2018 (UTC)reply