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Wow! Very nice! Thinking about GA? I'll try to find a chance to run through it, but am swamped (took a day off to go visit a friend, and wound up about a week behind in everything else - hate it when that happens). Should have time this weekend... Dana boomer ( talk) 10:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Lynghaug sometimes blindly copies stuff given her, and I chopped the stuff that flunked my smell test. The bit about most Pryors being Dun on 106 contradicts what is on 104, that the wild ones became predominantly bay and black because the flashy colored-ones got adopted out. And it is genetically impossible to say "the majority are dun ... AND include... roan." So we have possible discrepancy between the wild herd and the horses recorded by the little (very small) registry -- I know that a lot of Pryors got adopted without being "registered" by this little group. These horses have come to Sponenberg's attention though, and if we can verify that the articles posted here and here are faithful verbatim copies of his, that would be good to use. The bit about possibly being gaited I'd want to see Sponenberg say directly, instead of the vague "they have paso gaits" that is in Lynghaug, (some of them probably are) and she also repeats the nonsense about five lumbar vertebrae being a breed trait (this is a thing with the Arabian people too...) they are short-backed and some have 5 lumbar vertebrae, but many have six (I think one of the other sources verifies this.) FYI, I also favor inking to the google book where there is one. MOS definitely allows it for page cites to link to a URL, is not as definitive for the whole book, but where everything cited is in the book online version, I think we can get away with it for at least GAN. Montanabw (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
OK, I've added in the Ryden info. May have gone a bit overboard, but I was trying to condense ~25 pages of info, so I think two paragraphs is pretty good :) She gives two full chapters of the book to the fight over the Pryors, so it seems likely a pretty important thing to document here. And now we have a description of how we got from 1900 to 1980. Also added in a couple new images - can't figure out how to stagger them and still get them to all "look" into the page, but whatever - and tightened up the sourcing a bit more. Have you had any luck finding the 1930s paper you mentioned above? If not, I think the main thing to do at this point is another expansion of the lead (it either needs two quite hefty paragraphs or three decent ones, given its current size). Unless there's anything else you can think of? Dana boomer ( talk) 03:32, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. -- Seabuckthorn ♥ 17:54, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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This article is a very promising GA nominee. I’m glad to see your work here. All the best,
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Promoting the article to GA status.
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Moved as proposed. Consistent with house style, and no opposition. bd2412 T 17:23, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
– Per MOS:LIFE, and per WP:CONSISTENCY with lower-case treatment of "mustang" at the main Mustang horse article, and of "horse" and "pony" in all names of horse/pony varieties other than the few standardized breeds which include the word "Horse" or "Pony" in the breed's formal name (e.g. American Quarter Horse). WP does not capitalize (aside from included proper names) any animal types, populations, or other groupings, with the sole (sometimes controversial, and uncodified) exception of standardized breeds. Mustang groups (feral horse populations in particular areas), broad classifications of horses as being of Spanish ancestry, and a grouping of unrelated ponies by what activity they're intended for or what overall stature they have, clearly do not qualify. None of these are breeds themselves. There are probably more such articles that need moving. One edge case is a separate RM, at Talk:Kiger Mustang. It's a feral population like the other mustang groups (thus "Kiger mustang"), but there is a breed-establishment effort under way from stock taken from this herd, under a different name, Kiger Musteño. Spanish Mustang is not included in either RM, because that is an actual standardized breed, named for the feral Colonial Spanish horse-descended mustangs which were part of its foundation stock. — AReaderOutThataway t/ c 07:03, 7 November 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 12:32, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
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reassess it. Review: January 28, 2014. ( Reviewed version). |
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Wow! Very nice! Thinking about GA? I'll try to find a chance to run through it, but am swamped (took a day off to go visit a friend, and wound up about a week behind in everything else - hate it when that happens). Should have time this weekend... Dana boomer ( talk) 10:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Lynghaug sometimes blindly copies stuff given her, and I chopped the stuff that flunked my smell test. The bit about most Pryors being Dun on 106 contradicts what is on 104, that the wild ones became predominantly bay and black because the flashy colored-ones got adopted out. And it is genetically impossible to say "the majority are dun ... AND include... roan." So we have possible discrepancy between the wild herd and the horses recorded by the little (very small) registry -- I know that a lot of Pryors got adopted without being "registered" by this little group. These horses have come to Sponenberg's attention though, and if we can verify that the articles posted here and here are faithful verbatim copies of his, that would be good to use. The bit about possibly being gaited I'd want to see Sponenberg say directly, instead of the vague "they have paso gaits" that is in Lynghaug, (some of them probably are) and she also repeats the nonsense about five lumbar vertebrae being a breed trait (this is a thing with the Arabian people too...) they are short-backed and some have 5 lumbar vertebrae, but many have six (I think one of the other sources verifies this.) FYI, I also favor inking to the google book where there is one. MOS definitely allows it for page cites to link to a URL, is not as definitive for the whole book, but where everything cited is in the book online version, I think we can get away with it for at least GAN. Montanabw (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
OK, I've added in the Ryden info. May have gone a bit overboard, but I was trying to condense ~25 pages of info, so I think two paragraphs is pretty good :) She gives two full chapters of the book to the fight over the Pryors, so it seems likely a pretty important thing to document here. And now we have a description of how we got from 1900 to 1980. Also added in a couple new images - can't figure out how to stagger them and still get them to all "look" into the page, but whatever - and tightened up the sourcing a bit more. Have you had any luck finding the 1930s paper you mentioned above? If not, I think the main thing to do at this point is another expansion of the lead (it either needs two quite hefty paragraphs or three decent ones, given its current size). Unless there's anything else you can think of? Dana boomer ( talk) 03:32, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. -- Seabuckthorn ♥ 17:54, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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tagged with their
copyright status, and
valid fair use rationales are provided for
non-free content:
6: Images are provided if possible and are
relevant to the topic, and have
suitable captions:
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As per the above checklist, the issues identified are:
This article is a very promising GA nominee. I’m glad to see your work here. All the best,
--
Seabuckthorn
♥
21:51, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Promoting the article to GA status.
--
Seabuckthorn
♥
10:56, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Moved as proposed. Consistent with house style, and no opposition. bd2412 T 17:23, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
– Per MOS:LIFE, and per WP:CONSISTENCY with lower-case treatment of "mustang" at the main Mustang horse article, and of "horse" and "pony" in all names of horse/pony varieties other than the few standardized breeds which include the word "Horse" or "Pony" in the breed's formal name (e.g. American Quarter Horse). WP does not capitalize (aside from included proper names) any animal types, populations, or other groupings, with the sole (sometimes controversial, and uncodified) exception of standardized breeds. Mustang groups (feral horse populations in particular areas), broad classifications of horses as being of Spanish ancestry, and a grouping of unrelated ponies by what activity they're intended for or what overall stature they have, clearly do not qualify. None of these are breeds themselves. There are probably more such articles that need moving. One edge case is a separate RM, at Talk:Kiger Mustang. It's a feral population like the other mustang groups (thus "Kiger mustang"), but there is a breed-establishment effort under way from stock taken from this herd, under a different name, Kiger Musteño. Spanish Mustang is not included in either RM, because that is an actual standardized breed, named for the feral Colonial Spanish horse-descended mustangs which were part of its foundation stock. — AReaderOutThataway t/ c 07:03, 7 November 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 12:32, 15 November 2018 (UTC)