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OK, people can talk and beg on private shopping mall floor, but what money does the state pay for this to the developers to compensate them for this inconvenience? They lose money because of something as mundane as extra wear on the floor-tiles or as serious as loss of revenue due to reduced visitors count due to beggars' and religious fanatics' presence. The developers should make a yearly bill of that loss dollar-by-dollar and file it with the state gov't. If they do not pay, evict the speakers next year.
The court can make whatever decision they want, but cannot escape the responsibility. If Califonia has affirmative first amendment, this means they interfere, therefore they have the responsibility. Money talks in the USA and the "honest yank" counting dollar bills is the moral basis of that large country. If courts are allowed to infringe on private property without due compensation, America does not have a bright future.
I want to say that the section on constitutionality seems a little POV. Anyone see that too or am I just being too picky?
Should we split the PruneYard vs. Robins section out into its own article? Right now, the article is mostly about the case and other legal issues, with the description of the actual shopping center somewhat stubish. Gentgeen 07:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Do we need all these photos? CosmicWaffles 20:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Get rid of them, they're rubbish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.57.56 ( talk) 03:14, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
The name of the article is Pruneyard Shopping Center, but it was referred as PruneYard throughout the article. Maybe we should move it to a capital Y.-- Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 07:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
The pruneyard.com Web site doesn't use the capital "Y". — rybec 01:09, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
In the current decade, nobody seems to be spelling Pruneyard with an uppercase Y in business names (Cinemas at the P, P Apartments, Maximus P Owner LLC) or in legal documents. Granted, many locals remember when the opposite was true, but it would seem more correct at this point to deem the upper-Y version a "familiar" or "former" name. Here's a recent news item that doesn't even acknowledge the uppercase-Y version Sept 4 2014 Biz Journal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.99.34.6 ( talk) 00:13, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Please see WP:IG. Galleries aren't supposed to be used just to shoehorn in an indiscriminate amount of images. Do we really need five images of the same shopping center, especially in an article this short? Do you really think all five are encyclopedic images? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ( Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:46, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I have yet to find a source, me the source maven, but I grew up near there, I even took classes in the tower. My recollection of the origin of the towers is that Fred Sahadi had already planned to build these towers elsewhere, where I don't recall, but the plans were blocked. He already had building materials either en route or on hand. The purchase of the ranch adjacent to Campbell was a hasty option to find a new location for the building, in a location where the city council/planning commission was less forceful and possibly encouraging of development. In fact Campbell at the time was feeling left out of the Dutch Hamann incursion into surrounding areas. I have found nothing online, I don't have access to San Jose area newspaper archives of the day. Next time I'm in San Jose I'll look. I assume they do have the Mercury archive in a public library, if not other community papers. I'm opening this up to see if anyone else can find the story and source it out. Trackinfo ( talk) 04:41, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
At some point someone needs to get around to moving this article to "The Pruneyard." It's been called that for a while. -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 07:08, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
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OK, people can talk and beg on private shopping mall floor, but what money does the state pay for this to the developers to compensate them for this inconvenience? They lose money because of something as mundane as extra wear on the floor-tiles or as serious as loss of revenue due to reduced visitors count due to beggars' and religious fanatics' presence. The developers should make a yearly bill of that loss dollar-by-dollar and file it with the state gov't. If they do not pay, evict the speakers next year.
The court can make whatever decision they want, but cannot escape the responsibility. If Califonia has affirmative first amendment, this means they interfere, therefore they have the responsibility. Money talks in the USA and the "honest yank" counting dollar bills is the moral basis of that large country. If courts are allowed to infringe on private property without due compensation, America does not have a bright future.
I want to say that the section on constitutionality seems a little POV. Anyone see that too or am I just being too picky?
Should we split the PruneYard vs. Robins section out into its own article? Right now, the article is mostly about the case and other legal issues, with the description of the actual shopping center somewhat stubish. Gentgeen 07:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Do we need all these photos? CosmicWaffles 20:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Get rid of them, they're rubbish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.57.56 ( talk) 03:14, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
The name of the article is Pruneyard Shopping Center, but it was referred as PruneYard throughout the article. Maybe we should move it to a capital Y.-- Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 07:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
The pruneyard.com Web site doesn't use the capital "Y". — rybec 01:09, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
In the current decade, nobody seems to be spelling Pruneyard with an uppercase Y in business names (Cinemas at the P, P Apartments, Maximus P Owner LLC) or in legal documents. Granted, many locals remember when the opposite was true, but it would seem more correct at this point to deem the upper-Y version a "familiar" or "former" name. Here's a recent news item that doesn't even acknowledge the uppercase-Y version Sept 4 2014 Biz Journal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.99.34.6 ( talk) 00:13, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Please see WP:IG. Galleries aren't supposed to be used just to shoehorn in an indiscriminate amount of images. Do we really need five images of the same shopping center, especially in an article this short? Do you really think all five are encyclopedic images? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ( Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:46, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I have yet to find a source, me the source maven, but I grew up near there, I even took classes in the tower. My recollection of the origin of the towers is that Fred Sahadi had already planned to build these towers elsewhere, where I don't recall, but the plans were blocked. He already had building materials either en route or on hand. The purchase of the ranch adjacent to Campbell was a hasty option to find a new location for the building, in a location where the city council/planning commission was less forceful and possibly encouraging of development. In fact Campbell at the time was feeling left out of the Dutch Hamann incursion into surrounding areas. I have found nothing online, I don't have access to San Jose area newspaper archives of the day. Next time I'm in San Jose I'll look. I assume they do have the Mercury archive in a public library, if not other community papers. I'm opening this up to see if anyone else can find the story and source it out. Trackinfo ( talk) 04:41, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
At some point someone needs to get around to moving this article to "The Pruneyard." It's been called that for a while. -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 07:08, 9 March 2020 (UTC)