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Why are the provinces in this article arranged by traffic plates, rather than alphabetically? -- llywrch 23:40, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be a standard here yet for local places. Some use "X, Turkey" to differentiate only from other countries. But there are multiple place names in various provinces. Could somebody give guidance as to local practice?
Noticing that "X, Turkey" form, I chose "X, P" without the trailing "Province", guessing that might be the way that surface mail is addressed (as it is in some nearby Balkans), and trying to conform to local practice. But it's not pretty as the article title.
Would "X, P Province" be better?
Or "X, P Province, Turkey"?
Or take advantage of the pipe hack: "X (P Province, Turkey)"? (Prettiest from the point of view of both naming articles and editting.)
Specifically, so far, Kozan, Adana (stub), Mut, Adana (doesn't yet exist). William Allen Simpson 13:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi! As I'm a Turkish citizen and user of Turkish wikipedia, I can provide you some very certain knowledge: Administrative division of Turkey is so:
(there are a few administratively different units which is called "belde" in Turkish language, a belde is smaller than "district" and bigger than a "village", "belde"s are rare)
Remember that Turkey is not a federal system like the USA, Turkey is France-kind administrative system... Now, the province Ankara is an administrative division, let me write an example:
Now that the guidelines have finally been changed, how much effort should be put into moving the province pages from "P"rovince to "p"rovince? I see that Muğla province was done a month ago.
But when Muğla province was moved, they forgot to update the bold name. I fixed both the province and the city, and added sections and external links. Hopefully, more will be done in the same manner as time permits.
The consensus currently reflected in the language of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places) is:
Just trying to follow those guidelines. (But then, I helped write them.)
Each district, ilçe, (including the central district) commands a specific area, each has boundaries, within the province. The area depends administratively to the district central (ilçe merkezi, not to confuse with merkez ilçe) where resides the appointed kaymakam, head official for that district, who is answerable to the governor. Central districts do not have kaymakams, they are administered by a vice-governor.
All (central or not) district centers have municipalities (belediye), headed by an elected mayor, who administers a defined municipality area (usually matching, more or less, the urban zone) for defined municipal matters. A growing number of settlements, which are not district centers, have municipalities as well, usually because their population requires one. These are called belde. They haven't (yet) become district centers because there is one too close by, or due to some other reason. So, a belde has a mayor (responsible for its municipal zone), but not a kaymakam, and depend administratively on the district center within the boundaries of which it is situated.
At the bottom end, there are villages, who have elected muhtars taking care specific administrative matters. Furthermore, each quarter (mahalle) of a district center and belde has a muhtar as well, also for specific administrative questions. The designation slightly differs (köy muhtarı for village muhtar, mahalle muhtarı for quarter muhtar) and also the tasks, which are similar but adapted to their locality.
In some cases, a belde can be larger that the district center it depends, and a district center can be larger than the central district it depends, and many other district centers. One final note is the büyükşehir belediyesi, larger municipalities for megalopoles like İstanbul or İzmir, which have at their top an elected head mayor who oversee a number of municipalities and mayors.
I think district is the term that fits best. I did also think of township, but district matches, in my opinion, better. -- Cretanforever 09:53, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I think let the translation be left to Turkish native speakers as they would know best the tiny differences between such things... -- Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 08:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
26 provinces of turkey are KURDISTAN. They have Kurdish population and are an undivided parts of KURDISTAN. The history has proven it, if you look at ethnic maps or map of Kurdistan, you will see that 29 provinces of Turket are parts of Kurdistan. The Northern Kurdistanian provinces (occupated by Turkey) are: KARS, IGDIR, AGRI, VAN (WAN), HAKKARI (COLEMÊERG), SIRNAK, SIIRT (SÊRT), BITLIS, MUS, ERZURUM, ERZINCAN, BINGÖL (CEWLIK), BATMAN, MARDIN, DIYARBAKIR (AMED), TUNCELI (DÊRSÎM), ELAZIG (ELIH), MALATYA (MELETÎ), ADIYAMAN, SANLIURFA (RIHA), GAZIANTEP (ENTAP), KILIS, HATAY, OSMANIYE, KAHRAMANMARAS (MERES) anD SIVAS (SÊWAS) - THEY ALL ARE KURDIAN, PARTS OF KURDISTAN. Look at the histry book, ethnic maps and the map of Kurdistan - that the Kurds haven't done by themselves - you will see they are all KURDISTAN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.217.141.25 ( talk) 2007-04-29 11:59:32 (UTC)
I thought that Mersin was officially named as İçel and so would fit the pattern of alphabetical province names for the licence plate codes until Zonguldak? 92.9.132.114 ( talk) 18:37, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
The table displaying population of provinces and of province capitals is providing incorrect numbers. The reference, 2009 Turkstat website, does not respond. Bursa city is NOT the 3rd largest city in Turkey. No matter what criterion is used to define the "province capital" (city proper, metropolitan municipality or agglomeration), Izmir has a greater population than Bursa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.151.87 ( talk) 09:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
It'd be nice to have the province name meanings in English. Can anyone help? Thanks, -- Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 09:37, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I am aware of a PDF file on a Turkish government website, which appears to have area sizes different to the ones here, but I have no idea about the accuracy of the numbers used by both the government and Wikipedia, due to the lack of references.
Someone needs to dig deeper to verify which area values are true for both the provinces and districts, and if necessary, consolidate the sources for the area data for Turkey.
Best, -- Minoa ( talk) 20:34, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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Why are the provinces in this article arranged by traffic plates, rather than alphabetically? -- llywrch 23:40, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be a standard here yet for local places. Some use "X, Turkey" to differentiate only from other countries. But there are multiple place names in various provinces. Could somebody give guidance as to local practice?
Noticing that "X, Turkey" form, I chose "X, P" without the trailing "Province", guessing that might be the way that surface mail is addressed (as it is in some nearby Balkans), and trying to conform to local practice. But it's not pretty as the article title.
Would "X, P Province" be better?
Or "X, P Province, Turkey"?
Or take advantage of the pipe hack: "X (P Province, Turkey)"? (Prettiest from the point of view of both naming articles and editting.)
Specifically, so far, Kozan, Adana (stub), Mut, Adana (doesn't yet exist). William Allen Simpson 13:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi! As I'm a Turkish citizen and user of Turkish wikipedia, I can provide you some very certain knowledge: Administrative division of Turkey is so:
(there are a few administratively different units which is called "belde" in Turkish language, a belde is smaller than "district" and bigger than a "village", "belde"s are rare)
Remember that Turkey is not a federal system like the USA, Turkey is France-kind administrative system... Now, the province Ankara is an administrative division, let me write an example:
Now that the guidelines have finally been changed, how much effort should be put into moving the province pages from "P"rovince to "p"rovince? I see that Muğla province was done a month ago.
But when Muğla province was moved, they forgot to update the bold name. I fixed both the province and the city, and added sections and external links. Hopefully, more will be done in the same manner as time permits.
The consensus currently reflected in the language of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places) is:
Just trying to follow those guidelines. (But then, I helped write them.)
Each district, ilçe, (including the central district) commands a specific area, each has boundaries, within the province. The area depends administratively to the district central (ilçe merkezi, not to confuse with merkez ilçe) where resides the appointed kaymakam, head official for that district, who is answerable to the governor. Central districts do not have kaymakams, they are administered by a vice-governor.
All (central or not) district centers have municipalities (belediye), headed by an elected mayor, who administers a defined municipality area (usually matching, more or less, the urban zone) for defined municipal matters. A growing number of settlements, which are not district centers, have municipalities as well, usually because their population requires one. These are called belde. They haven't (yet) become district centers because there is one too close by, or due to some other reason. So, a belde has a mayor (responsible for its municipal zone), but not a kaymakam, and depend administratively on the district center within the boundaries of which it is situated.
At the bottom end, there are villages, who have elected muhtars taking care specific administrative matters. Furthermore, each quarter (mahalle) of a district center and belde has a muhtar as well, also for specific administrative questions. The designation slightly differs (köy muhtarı for village muhtar, mahalle muhtarı for quarter muhtar) and also the tasks, which are similar but adapted to their locality.
In some cases, a belde can be larger that the district center it depends, and a district center can be larger than the central district it depends, and many other district centers. One final note is the büyükşehir belediyesi, larger municipalities for megalopoles like İstanbul or İzmir, which have at their top an elected head mayor who oversee a number of municipalities and mayors.
I think district is the term that fits best. I did also think of township, but district matches, in my opinion, better. -- Cretanforever 09:53, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I think let the translation be left to Turkish native speakers as they would know best the tiny differences between such things... -- Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 08:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
26 provinces of turkey are KURDISTAN. They have Kurdish population and are an undivided parts of KURDISTAN. The history has proven it, if you look at ethnic maps or map of Kurdistan, you will see that 29 provinces of Turket are parts of Kurdistan. The Northern Kurdistanian provinces (occupated by Turkey) are: KARS, IGDIR, AGRI, VAN (WAN), HAKKARI (COLEMÊERG), SIRNAK, SIIRT (SÊRT), BITLIS, MUS, ERZURUM, ERZINCAN, BINGÖL (CEWLIK), BATMAN, MARDIN, DIYARBAKIR (AMED), TUNCELI (DÊRSÎM), ELAZIG (ELIH), MALATYA (MELETÎ), ADIYAMAN, SANLIURFA (RIHA), GAZIANTEP (ENTAP), KILIS, HATAY, OSMANIYE, KAHRAMANMARAS (MERES) anD SIVAS (SÊWAS) - THEY ALL ARE KURDIAN, PARTS OF KURDISTAN. Look at the histry book, ethnic maps and the map of Kurdistan - that the Kurds haven't done by themselves - you will see they are all KURDISTAN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.217.141.25 ( talk) 2007-04-29 11:59:32 (UTC)
I thought that Mersin was officially named as İçel and so would fit the pattern of alphabetical province names for the licence plate codes until Zonguldak? 92.9.132.114 ( talk) 18:37, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
The table displaying population of provinces and of province capitals is providing incorrect numbers. The reference, 2009 Turkstat website, does not respond. Bursa city is NOT the 3rd largest city in Turkey. No matter what criterion is used to define the "province capital" (city proper, metropolitan municipality or agglomeration), Izmir has a greater population than Bursa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.151.87 ( talk) 09:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
It'd be nice to have the province name meanings in English. Can anyone help? Thanks, -- Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 09:37, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I am aware of a PDF file on a Turkish government website, which appears to have area sizes different to the ones here, but I have no idea about the accuracy of the numbers used by both the government and Wikipedia, due to the lack of references.
Someone needs to dig deeper to verify which area values are true for both the provinces and districts, and if necessary, consolidate the sources for the area data for Turkey.
Best, -- Minoa ( talk) 20:34, 1 October 2019 (UTC)