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The article states that:
"Shi'a believe that the prophets and messengers (Adam being the first prophet and Muhammad the last) appointed by God are impeccable and infallible in every aspect (i.e., in their beliefs, thoughts, actions, speech, etc)."
But isn't it an accepted view that Adam was the first human being to "fall from grace" for disobeying God? I think this needs to be clarified in order to match with the entry on Adam. Seems like a contradiction.
You should differentiate between the Adam of the creation myth (the first man), and Adam the Prophet. The Bible also seems to have two different stories in Genesis, a subject that most people don't even notice. If you take the story of Adam of creation to be completely literal, then you will end up believing in some erroneous conclusions, like that the universe has a beginning, or that all of mankind's sins and problems are the result of one single man eating an apple, or a number of other ideas that are difficult to accept and imagine, given the detail of the story. The Adam of creation represents signifies the heavenly spirit of mankind, and Eve the human soul. The story of creation is eternal, not describing an actual historical event. There is also a Prophet named Adam, which is the story of a historical figure.
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Talk 00:46, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
The concept of Nubuwwah or prophethood is not unique for Shias & applies to Sunni's as well. Hence i removed the word "Shia" from the introduction line. -- Đõc §aмέέЯ 03:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I saw all salafist editors editing their salafism related articles or attacking sufism related articles. Many important articles like nubuwwah are untouched by them. I request them to edit wikipedia honestly. How this important topic is not written in a manner that is needed. Nowhere in the article the term nubuwwah or the term nabi are defined properly. Even the article prophet in Islam doesn't tell about prophet's nature and how they are different than other human beings. Zikrullah ( talk) 20:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
According to the WP:CRITERIA, the best title for the article is "Prophecy (Shia Islam)". Because as mentioned in reliable (English) source (that some of them had been used at the article), the prophecy is more [notable /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability] than Nubuwwah. Lstfllw203 ( talk) 18:15, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Ogress: can you explain about your ? why do you remove a theory from a famous author?what is your mean of "radical addition"? Thanks. Lstfllw203 ( talk) 06:33, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
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The article states that:
"Shi'a believe that the prophets and messengers (Adam being the first prophet and Muhammad the last) appointed by God are impeccable and infallible in every aspect (i.e., in their beliefs, thoughts, actions, speech, etc)."
But isn't it an accepted view that Adam was the first human being to "fall from grace" for disobeying God? I think this needs to be clarified in order to match with the entry on Adam. Seems like a contradiction.
You should differentiate between the Adam of the creation myth (the first man), and Adam the Prophet. The Bible also seems to have two different stories in Genesis, a subject that most people don't even notice. If you take the story of Adam of creation to be completely literal, then you will end up believing in some erroneous conclusions, like that the universe has a beginning, or that all of mankind's sins and problems are the result of one single man eating an apple, or a number of other ideas that are difficult to accept and imagine, given the detail of the story. The Adam of creation represents signifies the heavenly spirit of mankind, and Eve the human soul. The story of creation is eternal, not describing an actual historical event. There is also a Prophet named Adam, which is the story of a historical figure.
Cuñado
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Talk 00:46, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
The concept of Nubuwwah or prophethood is not unique for Shias & applies to Sunni's as well. Hence i removed the word "Shia" from the introduction line. -- Đõc §aмέέЯ 03:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I saw all salafist editors editing their salafism related articles or attacking sufism related articles. Many important articles like nubuwwah are untouched by them. I request them to edit wikipedia honestly. How this important topic is not written in a manner that is needed. Nowhere in the article the term nubuwwah or the term nabi are defined properly. Even the article prophet in Islam doesn't tell about prophet's nature and how they are different than other human beings. Zikrullah ( talk) 20:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
According to the WP:CRITERIA, the best title for the article is "Prophecy (Shia Islam)". Because as mentioned in reliable (English) source (that some of them had been used at the article), the prophecy is more [notable /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability] than Nubuwwah. Lstfllw203 ( talk) 18:15, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Ogress: can you explain about your ? why do you remove a theory from a famous author?what is your mean of "radical addition"? Thanks. Lstfllw203 ( talk) 06:33, 16 May 2016 (UTC)