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Does Council Tax count as a property tax? It replaced the poll tax and you pay more the more your property is worth. Secretlondon 23:22, Nov 20, 2003 (UTC)
A recent, anonymous, editor removed an external reference on the grounds that it was "an insipid article by a pro-tax individual". I haven't immediately restored it, because being insipid would be good grounds for removing it (and I don't know the literature well enough to tell whether that charge is true); it is also somewhat out of date (originally published 1972). But being pro-tax would not be grounds for removing it; we ought to have a balance of pro- and anti- references. So far as I can tell it was the only reference we had that discussed the distributional effect of property tax. Does anyone know a better reference for this issue - ideally a balanced and/or review paper? If not, then I think the deleted reference should go back. seglea 5 July 2005 23:15 (UTC)
Any tax on the possession or ownership of property is a type of property tax.
Renters are owners of an interest in a piece of property. Their ownership is limited by time though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalmia ( talk • contribs) 20:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Under any system of property tax the "owner" is deemed to be the State and the entity in possession of the property merely the renter thereof. PCE 01:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pce3@ij.net ( talk • contribs)
Where is this supposedly happening? This sounds like someone's political gripe. Some references and some context would be useful if anyone thinks it should be included in the article. -- Beland 16:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed the claim that New Orleans was the second-largest city in the U.S. before the Civil War. In 1860, New York, Philadelphia, Brooklyn, Boston, and Baltimore were all larger. In 1850, the position of New Orleans was the same except it was bigger than Brooklyn. [1] [2] This brings into question the accuracy of the rest of the New Orleans case study. -- Beland 16:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
What countries have no property tax? And what states within federations have no property tax? Zachorious 00:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
It's been over a year since the above question was posted. I would love to see an answer to this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.36.67 ( talk) 03:52, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
2013.....
Ok,lets review the full country list....00000.00...no property tax!....
Say someone wants to withdraw themselves from the civil economy of the United States (or any other country), how do they pay taxes, income (assuming you can define their subsistance such as hunting and gathering as income) taxes and property taxes. My point is how can someone pay taxes without money. The article does not address in what way or which medium is necesary to the payment of taxes to the state, and the posibilities of becomeing exempt. For instance what would you have to do to be perfectly exempt? Own nothing and live nowhere? In which case you would starve. You have to have land to grow food to feed your family but as long as you don't sell any of it, do you have to be taxed? If you have no money then how do you pay the taxes on your property? If you don't pay you get your land posesed, right? Then you starve. So you are basicaly forced into buisiness. Right? So this is an excelent example of how you do not really own the land. You rent it from the government and if you don't make the appropriet improvments, they will give it to someone who will.
Just asking? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rclose ( talk • contribs) 15:33, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the greatest lie ever told is the American Dream of home ownership as property tax clearly prohibits ownership making it impossible to ever become free from debt. Property tax is the evolution of serfdom where kings and lords have been replaced by rulers of the State. This medieval extortion, collected on unrealized capital gains, makes the peoples homes into investments of the State. Property tax forces the people into government servitude in order to keep their homes. Clearly as in the past, modern day serfdom is intended to prevent the people from ever acquiring liberty. With property tax the people must pay with government currency. Gone are the good old days when you could pay with chickens, some other farm product or manual labor. Tomas Real ( talk) 01:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
http://evans-legal.com/dan/papptax.html
We really should include some of this information in here. I don't know if North Carolina and Pennsylvania are the only two states that do/have done this, but it should be researched. I think this should could probably be made into a separate article or perhaps even combined with the [wealth tax] page.
Jesse Crouch ( talk) 09:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Property tax is the most regressive tax possible. It taxes someone even if they have no income giving it a potential tax rate that approaches infinity. It’s also regressive in that it directly taxes only those with taxable property. For example, I know some one who lives in a home with a taxable value of 300,000 dollars with a tax rate of 2.8%.He has an income of 25,000 dollars. He must pay the state about a dollar an hour to live in his home or about 34% of his income. He also must pay the sales tax and all the other taxes. The only way to make property tax progressive would be to link it to a persons income and if we are going to do this one has to wonder why don’t we just replace it with a state income tax that would be shared by everyone and people would no longer have to live with the threat of the government taking their homes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.159.83 ( talk) 05:49, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I think it needs to have a sample like start-to-finish of it. For instance, you receive Tax Statements in March 2009 for taxes assessed to be assessed in 2009. Then, you appeal by a deadline (usually April 30, 2009). Then, you appeal it by April 30. Go before a board and present arguments. Then, you are either agruments are accepted or declined. Raising or lowering your taxes.
But, I also want to know if the taxes are post-paid or pre-paid. People want to know if you are paying January 31, 2009 due date of taxes. Is that for post-payment of 2008 taxes or pre-payemnts of 2009 taxes. That was not clear.
Those are some changes I immediately and roughly see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidBlaineFullerton ( talk • contribs) 09:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The article says "The property tax always produces the required revenue for municipalities' tax levies." Not so, many cities and counties experience large shortfalls in the actual payments received, due to owners who cannot be found, or who just don't pay, and the like. Homeowners who have mortgages must pay, because the mortgagor collects the taxes as escrow and pays the government on time. Other owners may not pay, and while the government can theoretically sell the real estate and deduct the taxes, sometimes the property is not worth nearly as much as the taxes and penalties due.
The current article is not realistic, but I am unsure where comments like mine above should go in a general article. Also, getting appropriate sources may be difficult. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 21:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Could you add a link to the Bath School disaster which was caused by property tax? "The perpetrator was school board member Andrew Kehoe, who was upset by a property tax that had been levied to fund the construction of the school building. He blamed the additional tax for financial hardships which led to foreclosure proceedings against his farm." Stars4change ( talk) 05:47, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
This article lists stocks and bonds as "intangible assets."
That's not accurate, at least in the context of corporate terminology. I didn't edit it because maybe I'm not familiar with another use of intangible assets, and also I'm not sure exactly what they're getting at with the phrase, but that definitely can't stay ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.20.190.133 ( talk) 20:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Actually, from what I can tell, in most U.S. jurisdictions "personal property taxes" specifically exempt intangible assets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.20.190.133 ( talk) 20:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
I notice that "Tax levy" redirects to this article, while "Tax levies" is a separate article. This seems to be a problem.
The term "tax levy" can mean two different things. First, it can mean the imposition of the tax. In this sense, the term "tax levy" is simply the concept covered in the article entitled Tax. In this sense, "tax levy" should not redirect to this article on "Property tax," as a "tax levy" in this sense can be ANY kind of tax, not just a property tax.
In the second sense, a tax levy is a seizure of property by the government to satisfy a tax liability. The article "Tax levies" is the article covering this meaning of the term.
A few minutes ago, I entered the phrase "tax levy", intending to find the material covered by the second sense. It took a while to find the correct article: Tax levies.
I don't think "tax levy" should redirect to the article on Property tax at all. I think there should be a disambiguation for this term, with one alternative going to the article on Tax and the other alternative going to Tax levies.
Thoughts, anyone? Famspear ( talk) 05:32, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Deleted because it is uncited? Hmm, I think we could delete 90% of this article as uncited then.
I will leave this here instead, while I look around for citations.
DMahalko ( talk) 14:27, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello,
I am a German citizen and wanted some information about Canadian property taxes. The article explains it all in theoretical terms, but how does it look in practice ? Could somebody please insert practical examples, e.g. a $150,000.-- house in Québec, Ontario, and other states, and what the owner would actually have to pay per year to the state ? Does the state actually tax the current market value ? In Germany, you would pay sth. like $150.-- per year in taxes for a 150,000.-- house. -- Alexey Topol ( talk) 19:18, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Since all the nations under the UN (United Nations organization) recognized and adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, signed in New York on the 10th of December of the year 1948, this declaration has to be regarded as a fundamental set of articles that cannot be opposed by any national law.
We learn from it, by art. 17 that there is a right to "own property alone as well as in association with others".
Art. 25 recites clearly that "Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control". So the right to housing still stands also in the event of an economical standstill.
As for eviction from one's own house, on the grounds of property tax default, art. 5 comes in aid stating that "No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment". Unless, being rendered homeless is not considered a degrading treatment.
Mathematically a property tax can only be sustained by means of another line of earnings since property alone is not liable to output any revenue on its own. It would only be natural to impose a tax on the real income of people, safeguarding their rights and belongings in crucial moments of life.
Unless, a more general scheme of latent slavery has to be referred to, as inferred earlier on this page, which has been merely misnamed by calling it ownership. But then slavery strikes of course hollering contrast with art. 4 of the Declaration: "No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms".
Gabriel Serrelli 18:23, 19 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabriel Serrelli ( talk • contribs)
And, possibly, it is this that comes into conflict with the rights of property and well-being depicted in the Declaration.
Is this supposed to be in alphabetical order? If so, then Jamaica and Egypt need to be moved... Plokmijnuhbygvtfcdxeszwaq ( talk) 01:46, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
I believe a great way to improve the article would be to add at least a brief history of how property tax came to be. Here is what I had added, which got removed: "Historically, the American real estate tax has its origins in old England where funds were raised for the purpose of supporting military expeditions. The tax known as Danegeld was equivalent to 2 shillings per each 100 acres. It was first imposed during the year 868. From that time on, it was imposed whenever someone needed to be conquered. The property tax became so important that the concept was addressed in the Magna Carta. From England to the Colonies, the concept eventually came to be looked upon favorably as a stable and predictable source of revenue. The property tax has been referred to as the price of civilization." [1] Analyst1234 ( talk) 17:03, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
The external link revision 698267892 by Special:Contributions/Ronz, which removed the entire section, was reverted after careful consideration of conflict of interest guidelines, self publication recommendations, SPAM, and paid-contribution disclosure.
Wikimedia allows using material you have written or published and is allowed within reason, but only if it is relevant, conforms to the content policies and is not excessive. The inclusion of a link to a Property tax calculator was especially relevant to a page discussing this topic, how property tax is typically calculated, and currently includes no such link (my motivation for offering this addition to the community).
No reasonable person would accuse my infrequent (in total, two) links to content I have written as excessive. Furthermore, the link is none of the spam types described by Wikipedia:Spam:
As for conflict of interest due to paid editing: I was not paid. Likewise, a conflict of interest does not exist because the contribution to Wikipedia was not about myself, family, friends, clients, employers, or my financial or other relationships. Furthermore, the target of the link does not host advertising banners, products for sale, and is even shared under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International Licence.
I think the editors, in this instance, could take some guidance from Wikipedia policy as it relates to museum curators, librarians, archivists and similar, which are encouraged to help improve Wikipedia, or to share their information in the form of links to their resources. Yes, I realize that a simple online calculator is incredibly insignificant in comparison, and certainly not culturally significant, but the intent to provide a benefit to the community is the same.
Certainly, if I ever share such a link in the future, I will used the Talk page in advance. However, I believe that may be extremely unlikely, and I have put future plans to edit WP on hold.
Gnurob ( talk) 05:05, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
I've caught my satellite internet company adding a "annual property tax recovery fee" of $5.31 to my bill. They CLAIM that's a tax charged to them by my county for the dish in my yard, yet when questioned about it further they simply point people to this wikipedia article. Has anyone else heard of stuff like this? Because it seems very suspicious. 75.107.217.193 ( talk) 07:55, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
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Does Council Tax count as a property tax? It replaced the poll tax and you pay more the more your property is worth. Secretlondon 23:22, Nov 20, 2003 (UTC)
A recent, anonymous, editor removed an external reference on the grounds that it was "an insipid article by a pro-tax individual". I haven't immediately restored it, because being insipid would be good grounds for removing it (and I don't know the literature well enough to tell whether that charge is true); it is also somewhat out of date (originally published 1972). But being pro-tax would not be grounds for removing it; we ought to have a balance of pro- and anti- references. So far as I can tell it was the only reference we had that discussed the distributional effect of property tax. Does anyone know a better reference for this issue - ideally a balanced and/or review paper? If not, then I think the deleted reference should go back. seglea 5 July 2005 23:15 (UTC)
Any tax on the possession or ownership of property is a type of property tax.
Renters are owners of an interest in a piece of property. Their ownership is limited by time though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalmia ( talk • contribs) 20:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Under any system of property tax the "owner" is deemed to be the State and the entity in possession of the property merely the renter thereof. PCE 01:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pce3@ij.net ( talk • contribs)
Where is this supposedly happening? This sounds like someone's political gripe. Some references and some context would be useful if anyone thinks it should be included in the article. -- Beland 16:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed the claim that New Orleans was the second-largest city in the U.S. before the Civil War. In 1860, New York, Philadelphia, Brooklyn, Boston, and Baltimore were all larger. In 1850, the position of New Orleans was the same except it was bigger than Brooklyn. [1] [2] This brings into question the accuracy of the rest of the New Orleans case study. -- Beland 16:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
What countries have no property tax? And what states within federations have no property tax? Zachorious 00:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
It's been over a year since the above question was posted. I would love to see an answer to this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.36.67 ( talk) 03:52, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
2013.....
Ok,lets review the full country list....00000.00...no property tax!....
Say someone wants to withdraw themselves from the civil economy of the United States (or any other country), how do they pay taxes, income (assuming you can define their subsistance such as hunting and gathering as income) taxes and property taxes. My point is how can someone pay taxes without money. The article does not address in what way or which medium is necesary to the payment of taxes to the state, and the posibilities of becomeing exempt. For instance what would you have to do to be perfectly exempt? Own nothing and live nowhere? In which case you would starve. You have to have land to grow food to feed your family but as long as you don't sell any of it, do you have to be taxed? If you have no money then how do you pay the taxes on your property? If you don't pay you get your land posesed, right? Then you starve. So you are basicaly forced into buisiness. Right? So this is an excelent example of how you do not really own the land. You rent it from the government and if you don't make the appropriet improvments, they will give it to someone who will.
Just asking? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rclose ( talk • contribs) 15:33, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the greatest lie ever told is the American Dream of home ownership as property tax clearly prohibits ownership making it impossible to ever become free from debt. Property tax is the evolution of serfdom where kings and lords have been replaced by rulers of the State. This medieval extortion, collected on unrealized capital gains, makes the peoples homes into investments of the State. Property tax forces the people into government servitude in order to keep their homes. Clearly as in the past, modern day serfdom is intended to prevent the people from ever acquiring liberty. With property tax the people must pay with government currency. Gone are the good old days when you could pay with chickens, some other farm product or manual labor. Tomas Real ( talk) 01:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
http://evans-legal.com/dan/papptax.html
We really should include some of this information in here. I don't know if North Carolina and Pennsylvania are the only two states that do/have done this, but it should be researched. I think this should could probably be made into a separate article or perhaps even combined with the [wealth tax] page.
Jesse Crouch ( talk) 09:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Property tax is the most regressive tax possible. It taxes someone even if they have no income giving it a potential tax rate that approaches infinity. It’s also regressive in that it directly taxes only those with taxable property. For example, I know some one who lives in a home with a taxable value of 300,000 dollars with a tax rate of 2.8%.He has an income of 25,000 dollars. He must pay the state about a dollar an hour to live in his home or about 34% of his income. He also must pay the sales tax and all the other taxes. The only way to make property tax progressive would be to link it to a persons income and if we are going to do this one has to wonder why don’t we just replace it with a state income tax that would be shared by everyone and people would no longer have to live with the threat of the government taking their homes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.159.83 ( talk) 05:49, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I think it needs to have a sample like start-to-finish of it. For instance, you receive Tax Statements in March 2009 for taxes assessed to be assessed in 2009. Then, you appeal by a deadline (usually April 30, 2009). Then, you appeal it by April 30. Go before a board and present arguments. Then, you are either agruments are accepted or declined. Raising or lowering your taxes.
But, I also want to know if the taxes are post-paid or pre-paid. People want to know if you are paying January 31, 2009 due date of taxes. Is that for post-payment of 2008 taxes or pre-payemnts of 2009 taxes. That was not clear.
Those are some changes I immediately and roughly see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidBlaineFullerton ( talk • contribs) 09:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The article says "The property tax always produces the required revenue for municipalities' tax levies." Not so, many cities and counties experience large shortfalls in the actual payments received, due to owners who cannot be found, or who just don't pay, and the like. Homeowners who have mortgages must pay, because the mortgagor collects the taxes as escrow and pays the government on time. Other owners may not pay, and while the government can theoretically sell the real estate and deduct the taxes, sometimes the property is not worth nearly as much as the taxes and penalties due.
The current article is not realistic, but I am unsure where comments like mine above should go in a general article. Also, getting appropriate sources may be difficult. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 21:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Could you add a link to the Bath School disaster which was caused by property tax? "The perpetrator was school board member Andrew Kehoe, who was upset by a property tax that had been levied to fund the construction of the school building. He blamed the additional tax for financial hardships which led to foreclosure proceedings against his farm." Stars4change ( talk) 05:47, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
This article lists stocks and bonds as "intangible assets."
That's not accurate, at least in the context of corporate terminology. I didn't edit it because maybe I'm not familiar with another use of intangible assets, and also I'm not sure exactly what they're getting at with the phrase, but that definitely can't stay ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.20.190.133 ( talk) 20:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Actually, from what I can tell, in most U.S. jurisdictions "personal property taxes" specifically exempt intangible assets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.20.190.133 ( talk) 20:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
I notice that "Tax levy" redirects to this article, while "Tax levies" is a separate article. This seems to be a problem.
The term "tax levy" can mean two different things. First, it can mean the imposition of the tax. In this sense, the term "tax levy" is simply the concept covered in the article entitled Tax. In this sense, "tax levy" should not redirect to this article on "Property tax," as a "tax levy" in this sense can be ANY kind of tax, not just a property tax.
In the second sense, a tax levy is a seizure of property by the government to satisfy a tax liability. The article "Tax levies" is the article covering this meaning of the term.
A few minutes ago, I entered the phrase "tax levy", intending to find the material covered by the second sense. It took a while to find the correct article: Tax levies.
I don't think "tax levy" should redirect to the article on Property tax at all. I think there should be a disambiguation for this term, with one alternative going to the article on Tax and the other alternative going to Tax levies.
Thoughts, anyone? Famspear ( talk) 05:32, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Deleted because it is uncited? Hmm, I think we could delete 90% of this article as uncited then.
I will leave this here instead, while I look around for citations.
DMahalko ( talk) 14:27, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello,
I am a German citizen and wanted some information about Canadian property taxes. The article explains it all in theoretical terms, but how does it look in practice ? Could somebody please insert practical examples, e.g. a $150,000.-- house in Québec, Ontario, and other states, and what the owner would actually have to pay per year to the state ? Does the state actually tax the current market value ? In Germany, you would pay sth. like $150.-- per year in taxes for a 150,000.-- house. -- Alexey Topol ( talk) 19:18, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Since all the nations under the UN (United Nations organization) recognized and adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, signed in New York on the 10th of December of the year 1948, this declaration has to be regarded as a fundamental set of articles that cannot be opposed by any national law.
We learn from it, by art. 17 that there is a right to "own property alone as well as in association with others".
Art. 25 recites clearly that "Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control". So the right to housing still stands also in the event of an economical standstill.
As for eviction from one's own house, on the grounds of property tax default, art. 5 comes in aid stating that "No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment". Unless, being rendered homeless is not considered a degrading treatment.
Mathematically a property tax can only be sustained by means of another line of earnings since property alone is not liable to output any revenue on its own. It would only be natural to impose a tax on the real income of people, safeguarding their rights and belongings in crucial moments of life.
Unless, a more general scheme of latent slavery has to be referred to, as inferred earlier on this page, which has been merely misnamed by calling it ownership. But then slavery strikes of course hollering contrast with art. 4 of the Declaration: "No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms".
Gabriel Serrelli 18:23, 19 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabriel Serrelli ( talk • contribs)
And, possibly, it is this that comes into conflict with the rights of property and well-being depicted in the Declaration.
Is this supposed to be in alphabetical order? If so, then Jamaica and Egypt need to be moved... Plokmijnuhbygvtfcdxeszwaq ( talk) 01:46, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
I believe a great way to improve the article would be to add at least a brief history of how property tax came to be. Here is what I had added, which got removed: "Historically, the American real estate tax has its origins in old England where funds were raised for the purpose of supporting military expeditions. The tax known as Danegeld was equivalent to 2 shillings per each 100 acres. It was first imposed during the year 868. From that time on, it was imposed whenever someone needed to be conquered. The property tax became so important that the concept was addressed in the Magna Carta. From England to the Colonies, the concept eventually came to be looked upon favorably as a stable and predictable source of revenue. The property tax has been referred to as the price of civilization." [1] Analyst1234 ( talk) 17:03, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
The external link revision 698267892 by Special:Contributions/Ronz, which removed the entire section, was reverted after careful consideration of conflict of interest guidelines, self publication recommendations, SPAM, and paid-contribution disclosure.
Wikimedia allows using material you have written or published and is allowed within reason, but only if it is relevant, conforms to the content policies and is not excessive. The inclusion of a link to a Property tax calculator was especially relevant to a page discussing this topic, how property tax is typically calculated, and currently includes no such link (my motivation for offering this addition to the community).
No reasonable person would accuse my infrequent (in total, two) links to content I have written as excessive. Furthermore, the link is none of the spam types described by Wikipedia:Spam:
As for conflict of interest due to paid editing: I was not paid. Likewise, a conflict of interest does not exist because the contribution to Wikipedia was not about myself, family, friends, clients, employers, or my financial or other relationships. Furthermore, the target of the link does not host advertising banners, products for sale, and is even shared under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International Licence.
I think the editors, in this instance, could take some guidance from Wikipedia policy as it relates to museum curators, librarians, archivists and similar, which are encouraged to help improve Wikipedia, or to share their information in the form of links to their resources. Yes, I realize that a simple online calculator is incredibly insignificant in comparison, and certainly not culturally significant, but the intent to provide a benefit to the community is the same.
Certainly, if I ever share such a link in the future, I will used the Talk page in advance. However, I believe that may be extremely unlikely, and I have put future plans to edit WP on hold.
Gnurob ( talk) 05:05, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
I've caught my satellite internet company adding a "annual property tax recovery fee" of $5.31 to my bill. They CLAIM that's a tax charged to them by my county for the dish in my yard, yet when questioned about it further they simply point people to this wikipedia article. Has anyone else heard of stuff like this? Because it seems very suspicious. 75.107.217.193 ( talk) 07:55, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Dr. Bird has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:
As with the VAT piece, this one needs so much done to it that there is no way I can possibly get to in a short time.
We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.
We believe Dr. Bird has expertise on the topic of this article, since he has published relevant scholarly research:
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