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The section on This Is seems pretty absolutist. I've worked with law enforcement and SAR on the west coast who have it in their procedures to reverse the order from what's described. If it's "Never" allowed, it should specify by whom. JeffreyBeckman ( talk) 05:10, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Broadsword calling Danny Boy - a very famous example which presumably should be, "Danny Boy, this is Broadsword" -- 84.69.14.30 ( talk) 14:28, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
I changed the word 'pass' to 'send me'. " Pass" is ambiguous, and could also mean its opposite, either I 'pass' or decline the rest of the message, or 'please send the message on to someone else'. -- Boldklub-PJs ( talk) 14:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
I read this article when I was revising for my VHF licence exam, and updated it from my course notes to contain the prowords SAY AGAIN and STATION CALLING, which are used in cases of poor reception. I also added prowords for distress, urgency and safety calls in a separate section as they are important calls. Tuesday 09/04/07 1438 UTC.
I noticed the omission of READ BACK FOR CHECK, I READ BACK and CORRECT. These have been added under a new section 86.143.162.224 19:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
When I initially started this page I'd done it from the perspective of the radio communications doctrine of the US Army. But now with the additions of other editors I now see that there is an wide variety of different prowords from all different places (maritime, aviation, military, Ham, etc.). The article looks really sloppy now, and I'm thinking that perhaps to straighten it out we should create different sections (Maritime, Aviation, Military, Ham, etc.) in the article so the prowords will be organized by their respective uses. The problem arises that many prowords are universal like "Roger", "Over", and "Out". Perhaps a "Universal Prowords" section could also be created. I'd like to hear the input of other editors before beginning this undertaking. Ultratone85 20:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I saw that somebody changed the radio check demonstration response to "I read you five by five". I've never heard this before and I wonder if someone could enlighten me as to it's origin, use, and meaning? Ultratone85 20:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't know. But "read you lima charlie", means read you loud and clear (in response to a comms check). —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO ( talk • contribs) 18:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
5 by 5 is taken from the Amateur context of Radio Traffic. This refers to the RST Readability Strength and Tone. Tone is only used to describe the pureity of a CW signal CW relates to Morse. all the signals are graded from 1 exteremly poor to 5 very strong. "R" is Readability and "S" Strength. therefore 5 by 5 is readability 5 by strength 5 a very strong signal that is broadcast quality —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.82.187 ( talk) 21:40, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I notice from playing too much Call of Duty 4 that sometimes people will use the words 'over' and 'out' and sometimes they will not. I know what they mean and when they should be said, but why is it that sometimes they are not? An example would be on this page, when it states that there are two helicopters in formation and they are communicating, but neither say out or over. Why is this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.12.18 ( talk) 10:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I added IPA pronunciations to PAN PAN and SECURITE. I made my best effort to sound them out and pick the right characters but no guarantee that I got it exactly right. Rsduhamel ( talk) 07:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I believe in the US Navy, only the commanding officer of a ship is allowed to say "wilco", can someone verify? Mcswell ( talk) 17:51, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Just a comment.. I was bitched out by my CO for saying "Roger out" over the radio during a training exercise. Ether my CO was wrong or this is wrong..—Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.247.3.210 ( talk • contribs) 11:50, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused by the use of spellings like "SEELONCE FEENEE" in this article. Surely this is just the French words "SILENCE FINI", and the entry below should give pronunciation advice, as with the "SÉCURITÉ" entry. -- The Anome ( talk) 09:59, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Any good reason why WP:ALLCAPS doesn't apply?
The text in this section is confusing at best. It says:
"Over" and "Out" are never used at the same time, since their meanings are mutually exclusive ...
as well as
... the same meaning can be communicated with just "OUT", as in "Ops, Alpha, ETA five minutes. OUT."
which is in opposition. Perhaps the last sentence in this section should just be omitted.
23.28.177.232 ( talk) 09:44, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi, "collate" is a term I've seen listed (but never used myself); IIRC it is used to announce or request a checking of numbers transmitted, e.g. for positions. Wrt. "over and out", I was taught that "over" was a remains from the days when only one person could talk at the time ("single sideband transmission" ...?), and it was useful and polite to indicate that your transmission was over, allowing the other party to reply. I guess modern (post-1970 ...) radio technology ("Dual" or "Double sideband"....?) made this requirement superfluous. All this in a military setting, btw. T 46.212.185.190 ( talk) 01:09, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Is there a reason why this section is still based on ACP 125(F)? Would revision G not be a more up to date source? Pedlan ( talk) 01:04, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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The section on This Is seems pretty absolutist. I've worked with law enforcement and SAR on the west coast who have it in their procedures to reverse the order from what's described. If it's "Never" allowed, it should specify by whom. JeffreyBeckman ( talk) 05:10, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Broadsword calling Danny Boy - a very famous example which presumably should be, "Danny Boy, this is Broadsword" -- 84.69.14.30 ( talk) 14:28, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
I changed the word 'pass' to 'send me'. " Pass" is ambiguous, and could also mean its opposite, either I 'pass' or decline the rest of the message, or 'please send the message on to someone else'. -- Boldklub-PJs ( talk) 14:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
I read this article when I was revising for my VHF licence exam, and updated it from my course notes to contain the prowords SAY AGAIN and STATION CALLING, which are used in cases of poor reception. I also added prowords for distress, urgency and safety calls in a separate section as they are important calls. Tuesday 09/04/07 1438 UTC.
I noticed the omission of READ BACK FOR CHECK, I READ BACK and CORRECT. These have been added under a new section 86.143.162.224 19:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
When I initially started this page I'd done it from the perspective of the radio communications doctrine of the US Army. But now with the additions of other editors I now see that there is an wide variety of different prowords from all different places (maritime, aviation, military, Ham, etc.). The article looks really sloppy now, and I'm thinking that perhaps to straighten it out we should create different sections (Maritime, Aviation, Military, Ham, etc.) in the article so the prowords will be organized by their respective uses. The problem arises that many prowords are universal like "Roger", "Over", and "Out". Perhaps a "Universal Prowords" section could also be created. I'd like to hear the input of other editors before beginning this undertaking. Ultratone85 20:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I saw that somebody changed the radio check demonstration response to "I read you five by five". I've never heard this before and I wonder if someone could enlighten me as to it's origin, use, and meaning? Ultratone85 20:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't know. But "read you lima charlie", means read you loud and clear (in response to a comms check). —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO ( talk • contribs) 18:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
5 by 5 is taken from the Amateur context of Radio Traffic. This refers to the RST Readability Strength and Tone. Tone is only used to describe the pureity of a CW signal CW relates to Morse. all the signals are graded from 1 exteremly poor to 5 very strong. "R" is Readability and "S" Strength. therefore 5 by 5 is readability 5 by strength 5 a very strong signal that is broadcast quality —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.82.187 ( talk) 21:40, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I notice from playing too much Call of Duty 4 that sometimes people will use the words 'over' and 'out' and sometimes they will not. I know what they mean and when they should be said, but why is it that sometimes they are not? An example would be on this page, when it states that there are two helicopters in formation and they are communicating, but neither say out or over. Why is this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.12.18 ( talk) 10:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I added IPA pronunciations to PAN PAN and SECURITE. I made my best effort to sound them out and pick the right characters but no guarantee that I got it exactly right. Rsduhamel ( talk) 07:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I believe in the US Navy, only the commanding officer of a ship is allowed to say "wilco", can someone verify? Mcswell ( talk) 17:51, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Just a comment.. I was bitched out by my CO for saying "Roger out" over the radio during a training exercise. Ether my CO was wrong or this is wrong..—Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.247.3.210 ( talk • contribs) 11:50, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused by the use of spellings like "SEELONCE FEENEE" in this article. Surely this is just the French words "SILENCE FINI", and the entry below should give pronunciation advice, as with the "SÉCURITÉ" entry. -- The Anome ( talk) 09:59, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Any good reason why WP:ALLCAPS doesn't apply?
The text in this section is confusing at best. It says:
"Over" and "Out" are never used at the same time, since their meanings are mutually exclusive ...
as well as
... the same meaning can be communicated with just "OUT", as in "Ops, Alpha, ETA five minutes. OUT."
which is in opposition. Perhaps the last sentence in this section should just be omitted.
23.28.177.232 ( talk) 09:44, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi, "collate" is a term I've seen listed (but never used myself); IIRC it is used to announce or request a checking of numbers transmitted, e.g. for positions. Wrt. "over and out", I was taught that "over" was a remains from the days when only one person could talk at the time ("single sideband transmission" ...?), and it was useful and polite to indicate that your transmission was over, allowing the other party to reply. I guess modern (post-1970 ...) radio technology ("Dual" or "Double sideband"....?) made this requirement superfluous. All this in a military setting, btw. T 46.212.185.190 ( talk) 01:09, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Is there a reason why this section is still based on ACP 125(F)? Would revision G not be a more up to date source? Pedlan ( talk) 01:04, 29 June 2023 (UTC)