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Dear friends, Apuroopam is not her debut film. If it was then Chopra must have said about it. She says her only first film released was Thamizhan. Apuroopam was actual a 2003 film, but you will find 2002 or even 2001 in many fancruft sites. Here is link which says, it was delayed and was a 2003 film, means after Thamizhan, so it's not her debut.
Hey guys, I and
GleekVampire wants a discussion regarding chopra's other website that is
priyankachopramusic
I think the sections of Chopra's article confuses the user as it says
That's all. Pks1142 ( talk) 19:01, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
. Pks1142 ( talk) 20:02, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
The headings are named based on her personal critical success, not necessarily that of the films. It takes a bunch of people to make a film successful, not just her. Based on what you said, there would only be one paragraph for debut in '02, one paragraph for setback in '07 and half of '08, and the rest all success? Come on! She doesn't need us to make her look good, so lets's not exaggerate things. A hundred people could come with a hundred ways to group the info and title it. You want to start a big debate? BollyJeff | talk 19:23, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
I think the present sections are nice and GV is behaving like we had added about her winning Academy awards.nevertheless pls don't get me into biasness as your edit summary says so. I'm trying to be neutral and I removed his view of negative reviews of barsaat coz he didn't provide source that time.c U. Pks1142 ( talk) 21:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
I see a lot of text in here saying "film x was a critical and commercial failure/success", and the only source is BoxOfficeIndia. That covers the commercial part, but not the critical part. Prove it or remove it... BollyJeff | talk
Does anyone think this should go to a peer review before FAC? We are still waiting for the expert copy edit. BollyJeff | talk 20:42, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
I recommend seeking a Peer Review since GOCE copy-edits don't come with a cast-iron guarantee of a pass for FA. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 03:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Priyanka Chopra peer review underway here: Wikipedia:Peer review/Priyanka Chopra/archive1. Want to apply for FAC soon. BollyJeff | talk 17:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
This text is not supported by the sources given, so I removed it and placed it here so as not to lose the existing refs. Cheers,
Baffle gab1978 (
talk)
20:29, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Chopra's parents, who exposed her to musicians including
Mohammad Rafi,
The Beatles,
Metallica,
The Doors, and
50 Cent, had significant influences on her childhood.
[1] In her teen years, Chopra was highly influenced by
The Fugees,
Biggie and
Tupac. According to Chopra, she wore black to school for ten days after Tupac passed away.
Here is another factoid not supported by the source and I cannot find another good source. Maybe it is not really needed:
While shooting for the Holi song "Do Me a Favour", Chopra was drenched in water and went to her van to change. She stepped on a loose, live electrical wire and was almost electrocuted, but she recovered and resumed shooting the next day. [2] BollyJeff | talk 01:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Becoming an aeronautical engineer was her dream according to an interview with lee hawkins in WSJ live, so why you all are removing it? User:Bollyjeff — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saurabh.agrawal92 ( talk • contribs) 06:53, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
I suggest we provide page protection to this article at least till the FA review.persistent vandalism could affect the article from getting Fa status -- Naveed ( talk) 04:50, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Why constantly changing picture of Priyanka Chopra Alf5435334 ( talk) 09:34, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
A sentence like "she is noted for her versatility in challenging, character-driven and unconventional roles in several critically acclaimed films" in the first paragraph of the lead is pure fancruft. Apart from that, the tone of the entire article is skewed to praising Chopra (not to mention the terrible grammar); we must remember that our aim is not to promote Chopra or prove that she is the best actress in the world. I hope that someone has the good sense to remove such atrocious claims before the next FAC. -- smarojit (buzz me) 03:36, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I think these sources are enough to prove that these are not fancruft. Prashant talk 04:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Prashant talk 18:58, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I read the "Performance and analysis" subsection. Most of this subsection is like a quick repeat of her film career. This subsection looks unneeded. Additionally, it is full of quotes, many of which can easily be paraphrased to text (if at all needed). The last sentence (her featuring in top actress list etc) can be included in "Public image" or in "Awards and honours". Otherwise, the rest of the subsection can mostly be deleted, and some portions (if needed) can be incorporated within the film career.
If we have to keep this subsection, it should hardly be a paragraph long. The paragraph may begin with her initial bad films and her being used for glamour quotient, and the transformation to take on unconventional roles later.
Even the influence subsection is largely ornamental. The reader won't miss anything if that is completely removed.(I like bla bla... I imbibe from bla bla... all kind of empty comments). Well, only the influence of the father can be noted, in song career section, if needed.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 22:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
That's all I want only these changes. Please, if I can pass the olive branch then, you should also. Prashant talk 03:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
According to this source, this Meera Chopra is her cousin? Here she (PC) confirms (in twitter) that Meera is her cousin. Can someone verify this? Tolly 4 bolly 08:02, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
OK here's the before and after. I spot the toning down of some of the more flowery words and the removal of "one of the most versatile actresses" which does seem like it is trying to emulate the Zinta article. What exactly is disputed?
Priyanka Chopra (pronounced [prɪˈjəŋkaː ˈtʃoːpɽaː]; born 18 July 1982) is an Indian film actress, singer and songwriter. She was crowned Miss India and Miss World in 2000 before making her screen debut in 2002 in the Tamil film, Thamizhan. The following year she starred in The Hero, her first Bollywood release, and followed it with the box-office hit Andaaz. She earned critical acclaim for her portrayal of a seductress in the 2004 thriller Aitraaz and appeared in the blockbuster superhero film Krrish (2006), one of her biggest commercial successes to date. She subsequently played the lead female role in several other commercially successful films.
After starring in several critical and commercial failures, Chopra earned wide critical acclaim for her portrayal of a troubled model in the 2008 drama Fashion, which proved to be a major turning point in her career. She received further critical acclaim for her performances in films such as Kaminey (2009), 7 Khoon Maaf (2011) and Barfi! (2012). Chopra has received a number of awards for her film roles, including a National Film Award (for Fashion) and four Filmfare Awards. She is noted for her versatility in playing challenging and unconventional roles in several critically acclaimed films and has established herself as a leading contemporary actress in Hindi cinema.
Chopra is regarded as one of the most popular, attractive and fashionable celebrities in India. She has often been cited as the world's "Sexiest Asian" woman and her personal and professional life has received substantial media attention. In addition to film acting, Chopra has performed in television and stage shows, has written columns in India's national newspapers, is active in charity work and endorses a number of products. In 2011, she signed a worldwide recording contract with Universal Music Group and DesiHits to record and release her first studio album. Her debut single, " In My City", was released in September 2012 and was a commercial success in India.
Priyanka Chopra (pronounced [prɪˈjəŋkaː ˈtʃoːpɽaː]; born 18 July 1982) is an Indian film actress, singer, and songwriter. She won the Miss India and Miss World pageants of 2000 before making her acting debut in the Tamil film Thamizhan (2002). The following year, she starred in The Hero, her first Hindi film release, and followed it with the box-office hit Andaaz. She subsequently earned wide public recognition for the role of a seductress in the 2004 thriller Aitraaz.
By 2006, Chopra had established herself as a leading actress in Bollywood with starring roles in Krrish and Don, major economic successes in India and abroad. She then featured in a series of unsuccessful films before receiving critical acclaim for portraying a range of unconventional characters; she played a troubled model in the 2008 drama Fashion, a serial killer in the 2011 neo-noir 7 Khoon Maaf, and an autistic woman in the 2012 romantic comedy Barfi!. Chopra has won a National Film Award for Best Actress and Filmfare Awards in four categories.
Chopra is regarded as one of the most popular celebrities in India and is often cited as a sex symbol. In addition to acting in films, she has participated in stage shows, hosted a reality show on television, written columns for India's national newspapers, performed philanthropic activities, and served as an ambassador for a number of brands. In 2012, she released her first single " In My City", which was met with mixed comments from the critics, but proved a commercial success in India.
♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:01, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
In my opinion, the intro isn't informative enough. As a reader I would expect the intro to be an effective summary of the article so would expect it to tell me what award she won for certain films rather than just winning the four awards.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:11, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I've read the article and I've got to say that several of the lower sections come across as magazine material. It reads more as a magazine, I'm not sure some of the sections like "artistry" are really adequate, I mean U2 and Beatles, really? I don't think it is that necessary in all honesty. Some of the quotes I think are unnecessary. Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:11, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I feel that the article needs a lot of work from an encyclopedic viewpoint. A lot of it does read as cruft and like a magazine. I think we can make it more "traditional" if you know what I mean by reducing some of the quotes and trivia in the lower sections.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Actually count me out, Dharmadhyaksha will only list the article for FAR once it reaches FA anyway. This ill feeling between you all is bitterly disappointing. Editors of the same project should not be listing articles for GAR but should be constructively working together to improve perceived inferior quality articles which have been listed. I'll return to working on promoting Indian articles once this rift between Prashant and other editors here has diminished. I have no desire to work with editors in such a hostile environment.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
One of the major issues for me was the generic "critical and commercial success, performance well-received" for virtually every film. You don't need to state how every film fared at the box office. A lot of the quotes are "nutritionally empty" if you know what I mean and contribute little to the article. A lot of them should be put into prose or even removed I think as it comes across to me as fluff. I've changed a bit from 2006-2008 but I intend going through and changing this. It affects readability and makes the article much less pleasurable to read, in fact the starred in, commercial success, well received combo actually affects the flow of the article.By 2008 the reader will become sick to the core of seeing "commercial and critical success" and "praised". I'd rather more information was given about her roles and production and the occasional quotes rather than generically for almost every film. Quotes for me must always try to provide encyclopedic value by offering information on the nature of a role and acting, rather than the same old "She look's hot" type of thing. I know this is difficult for articles on Indian actresses but still..♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:41, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
I've addressed much of it and it reads better now I think, although still too much "major commercial success" for me, especially 2010-present. Can somebody check that the quoting is consistent, ". incide full-stop is British, outside is American I think, I spotted a few quotes outside, please address Prashant as I think we use Indian/British English for Indian subjects.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:38, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Well, please tell where you found those certain things. We use Indian/British English. I really don't know who added those Amercian English as I always intend to add British English. Most of article published in Indian media use British. Maybe those editors have added who add sources from International media. Prashant 11:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Would be good for one or two to go over this, but I think its near FA standard now. It has almost twice the number of sources as the Zinta article. I think we should nom it soon.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:44, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I think we should nominate it ASAP. The article is very interesting and has shaped up very well. Prashant 16:00, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
That's why Blofeld said to go over it. I think Dwai, you are very good at pointing out mistakes. It would be very helpful, if you could just go over it and give it a tight checkup. Prashant 16:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, please go through Dwai and anybody else interested.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:31, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
The sentence now says, "Chopra became the first actress to feature in school text books". That is very unlikely. At best, she could be the first Indian actress to feature in Indian school texts. Then, this Filmfare page says "one of the first actress to be honoured in a different way". This and some other sources mention a certain school named Springdale School that features her in their text book, while other sources do not mention the name of the school, but just says CBSE textbook. So, is she featured on a particular school's textbook, or, all schools' (CBSE board) text book? (I have no idea whether all schools in CBSE have to follow the same text or individual schools have their own text books)
The ToI source says, "After Rajinikanth, Priyanka Chopra too will feature in school text books here after" This does not mention she is the first actress ever. I understand that this could be very difficult to dig; but at least the "indian" actress part should be mentioned, because there might have been other actresses from other countries who were featured in school texts.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 19:30, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, iDiva is a reliable source. It is the divided publisher of The Times of India for Fashion and Lifestyle. See those TNN tag. Go and add it and for her album, call it in late 2013 as the second single is still to be released and then, I think it may release. Prashant 22:25, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
This source may help regarding the release date of her album. It say sometime after the release of her second single. That means second half of 2013. Prashant 22:38, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Also, it is mentioned right there "In August 2011, Universal Music Group signed Chopra to a worldwide recording agreement with DesiHits. Troy Carter, CEO of Atom Factory (which also manages Lady Gaga), was signed by Chopra to manage her music career. Her first studio album will be released by Interscope Records in North America and by Island Records elsewhere." Look carefully before pointing unwanted issues. First of all we can't mention same thing (release of her album) two times. As you questioned by using "When" tag is really unwanted. Prashant 00:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
The sources are contradictory in regards to this, so that needs to be mentioned somehow. I've reverted my edits, because they were done in a hurry and caused a greater problem. Rediff says [1]:
Originally, Amisha Patel's role had been offered to Priyanka Chopra (before she was crowned Miss World). "We had a mutual agreement with Priyanka that if she was crowned, she would first finish all her social work and promotional campaigns and then immediately begin working for Humraaz," says Abbas. "We wanted to launch her. But she signed on some other films instead. So we offered it to Amisha and she was very excited.
Chopra herself says in an interview [2]:
Abbas-Mustan offered you Humraaz too, but you didn't take it up…: Not really. I was under the Miss World contract that doesn't let you take up any new ventures. The film had to go on floors immediately and I couldn't commit dates.
The problem here is that in the two sources the production team and Chopra are giving contradictory information, which really isn't unusual in the film business since they are creating a public relations story of sorts. There are a few solutions:
The worst-case scenario is to edit war because it affects the article's stability, which is a big consideration when submitting for FAC. Try to work out the details here, calmly. It is important to use the talk page to work out these issues: that's what the talkpage is for. I was posting to this thread last night (actually this long post), but couldn't save because it had been deleted, which is a violation of refactoring. It's okay to strike posts, but once someone has answered, the thread should stand. Anyway, good luck with all of this. I look forward to seeing it back at FAC. Victoria ( talk) 14:21, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
The production team's statement are very contradictory. They said:
Okay, so they had agreement that Chopra should first finish her pageantry commitments, which nearly takes one year to complete, until new miss world is announced. But, According to Directors film took one year to complete. Chopra won in December 2000, her commitments ended in December 2001 (after 1 year). Film released in July 2002. But, here we go contradiction: If Chopra showed interest to complete other films, then how the film released in July2002?, which took one year to complete. Means filming, post production was done from July 2001 (A complete one year). So, how early directors thought she showed interest in other film.
Chopra said she had to turn it down as it came in way of pageantary commitments and the film had to go on floors immediately. Which seems true to the the film release and working process. What's say?— Prashant 14:42, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
What huh?? I always try to read whole text from sources. Rather than in parts. It's natural, if you look at any source.— Prashant 14:58, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
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Prashant by reverting (an FAC opposer) you're basically a] Asking for her to retain her oppose when it reopens b] You're jeopardizing the reopening and success of the FAC reopening because the article has to have long been stable and not subject to dispute. Victoria is an experienced editor with a good number of FA articles under her belt and I think this article needs a pair of non Bollywood eyes looking over it. Feel free to edit as you wish Victoria, I trust your judgement. Prashant if you do something again which threatens the prospect of this article passing FAC I have no alternative but to request that you are topic banned from not only editing this but any article involving Chopra. Enough is enough.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 07:30, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
As for your edit Victoria in which you wrote " However, her pageant commitments (Chopra was competing in the Miss World contest) came in the way; and though the Humraaz producers were willing to delay the production for her, Chopra showed interest in other films, and the role went to Ameesha Patel." I don't think your wording improved it and that looks rather awkward with so many ands and a colon.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 07:34, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Good idea, Victoria please work on it in User:Victoriaearle/Priyanka Chopra.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 09:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Now, everybody is happy that I'm supposed to be topic band. Party all those invisible editors. Your tricks of adding fuel to fire is working and how! Enjoy this moment. I'll be topic band.— Prashant 10:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Dr. Blofeld for the nice comments. Three things:
Thanks all. Victoria ( talk) 17:02, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Support - For this: "After winning Miss India World, Chopra had signed Abbas-Mustan's romantic thriller Humraaz (2002), in which she was to make her film debut.[29] However, this fell through for various reasons: she stated the production conflicted with her schedule, while the producers stated they re-cast because Chopra took on various other commitments."
Full coverage: Both stories, both sources, reader can figure it out.
BollyJeff |
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Dear friends, Apuroopam is not her debut film. If it was then Chopra must have said about it. She says her only first film released was Thamizhan. Apuroopam was actual a 2003 film, but you will find 2002 or even 2001 in many fancruft sites. Here is link which says, it was delayed and was a 2003 film, means after Thamizhan, so it's not her debut.
Hey guys, I and
GleekVampire wants a discussion regarding chopra's other website that is
priyankachopramusic
I think the sections of Chopra's article confuses the user as it says
That's all. Pks1142 ( talk) 19:01, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
. Pks1142 ( talk) 20:02, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
The headings are named based on her personal critical success, not necessarily that of the films. It takes a bunch of people to make a film successful, not just her. Based on what you said, there would only be one paragraph for debut in '02, one paragraph for setback in '07 and half of '08, and the rest all success? Come on! She doesn't need us to make her look good, so lets's not exaggerate things. A hundred people could come with a hundred ways to group the info and title it. You want to start a big debate? BollyJeff | talk 19:23, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
I think the present sections are nice and GV is behaving like we had added about her winning Academy awards.nevertheless pls don't get me into biasness as your edit summary says so. I'm trying to be neutral and I removed his view of negative reviews of barsaat coz he didn't provide source that time.c U. Pks1142 ( talk) 21:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
I see a lot of text in here saying "film x was a critical and commercial failure/success", and the only source is BoxOfficeIndia. That covers the commercial part, but not the critical part. Prove it or remove it... BollyJeff | talk
Does anyone think this should go to a peer review before FAC? We are still waiting for the expert copy edit. BollyJeff | talk 20:42, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
I recommend seeking a Peer Review since GOCE copy-edits don't come with a cast-iron guarantee of a pass for FA. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 03:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Priyanka Chopra peer review underway here: Wikipedia:Peer review/Priyanka Chopra/archive1. Want to apply for FAC soon. BollyJeff | talk 17:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
This text is not supported by the sources given, so I removed it and placed it here so as not to lose the existing refs. Cheers,
Baffle gab1978 (
talk)
20:29, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Chopra's parents, who exposed her to musicians including
Mohammad Rafi,
The Beatles,
Metallica,
The Doors, and
50 Cent, had significant influences on her childhood.
[1] In her teen years, Chopra was highly influenced by
The Fugees,
Biggie and
Tupac. According to Chopra, she wore black to school for ten days after Tupac passed away.
Here is another factoid not supported by the source and I cannot find another good source. Maybe it is not really needed:
While shooting for the Holi song "Do Me a Favour", Chopra was drenched in water and went to her van to change. She stepped on a loose, live electrical wire and was almost electrocuted, but she recovered and resumed shooting the next day. [2] BollyJeff | talk 01:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Becoming an aeronautical engineer was her dream according to an interview with lee hawkins in WSJ live, so why you all are removing it? User:Bollyjeff — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saurabh.agrawal92 ( talk • contribs) 06:53, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
I suggest we provide page protection to this article at least till the FA review.persistent vandalism could affect the article from getting Fa status -- Naveed ( talk) 04:50, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Why constantly changing picture of Priyanka Chopra Alf5435334 ( talk) 09:34, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
A sentence like "she is noted for her versatility in challenging, character-driven and unconventional roles in several critically acclaimed films" in the first paragraph of the lead is pure fancruft. Apart from that, the tone of the entire article is skewed to praising Chopra (not to mention the terrible grammar); we must remember that our aim is not to promote Chopra or prove that she is the best actress in the world. I hope that someone has the good sense to remove such atrocious claims before the next FAC. -- smarojit (buzz me) 03:36, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I think these sources are enough to prove that these are not fancruft. Prashant talk 04:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Prashant talk 18:58, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I read the "Performance and analysis" subsection. Most of this subsection is like a quick repeat of her film career. This subsection looks unneeded. Additionally, it is full of quotes, many of which can easily be paraphrased to text (if at all needed). The last sentence (her featuring in top actress list etc) can be included in "Public image" or in "Awards and honours". Otherwise, the rest of the subsection can mostly be deleted, and some portions (if needed) can be incorporated within the film career.
If we have to keep this subsection, it should hardly be a paragraph long. The paragraph may begin with her initial bad films and her being used for glamour quotient, and the transformation to take on unconventional roles later.
Even the influence subsection is largely ornamental. The reader won't miss anything if that is completely removed.(I like bla bla... I imbibe from bla bla... all kind of empty comments). Well, only the influence of the father can be noted, in song career section, if needed.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 22:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
That's all I want only these changes. Please, if I can pass the olive branch then, you should also. Prashant talk 03:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
According to this source, this Meera Chopra is her cousin? Here she (PC) confirms (in twitter) that Meera is her cousin. Can someone verify this? Tolly 4 bolly 08:02, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
OK here's the before and after. I spot the toning down of some of the more flowery words and the removal of "one of the most versatile actresses" which does seem like it is trying to emulate the Zinta article. What exactly is disputed?
Priyanka Chopra (pronounced [prɪˈjəŋkaː ˈtʃoːpɽaː]; born 18 July 1982) is an Indian film actress, singer and songwriter. She was crowned Miss India and Miss World in 2000 before making her screen debut in 2002 in the Tamil film, Thamizhan. The following year she starred in The Hero, her first Bollywood release, and followed it with the box-office hit Andaaz. She earned critical acclaim for her portrayal of a seductress in the 2004 thriller Aitraaz and appeared in the blockbuster superhero film Krrish (2006), one of her biggest commercial successes to date. She subsequently played the lead female role in several other commercially successful films.
After starring in several critical and commercial failures, Chopra earned wide critical acclaim for her portrayal of a troubled model in the 2008 drama Fashion, which proved to be a major turning point in her career. She received further critical acclaim for her performances in films such as Kaminey (2009), 7 Khoon Maaf (2011) and Barfi! (2012). Chopra has received a number of awards for her film roles, including a National Film Award (for Fashion) and four Filmfare Awards. She is noted for her versatility in playing challenging and unconventional roles in several critically acclaimed films and has established herself as a leading contemporary actress in Hindi cinema.
Chopra is regarded as one of the most popular, attractive and fashionable celebrities in India. She has often been cited as the world's "Sexiest Asian" woman and her personal and professional life has received substantial media attention. In addition to film acting, Chopra has performed in television and stage shows, has written columns in India's national newspapers, is active in charity work and endorses a number of products. In 2011, she signed a worldwide recording contract with Universal Music Group and DesiHits to record and release her first studio album. Her debut single, " In My City", was released in September 2012 and was a commercial success in India.
Priyanka Chopra (pronounced [prɪˈjəŋkaː ˈtʃoːpɽaː]; born 18 July 1982) is an Indian film actress, singer, and songwriter. She won the Miss India and Miss World pageants of 2000 before making her acting debut in the Tamil film Thamizhan (2002). The following year, she starred in The Hero, her first Hindi film release, and followed it with the box-office hit Andaaz. She subsequently earned wide public recognition for the role of a seductress in the 2004 thriller Aitraaz.
By 2006, Chopra had established herself as a leading actress in Bollywood with starring roles in Krrish and Don, major economic successes in India and abroad. She then featured in a series of unsuccessful films before receiving critical acclaim for portraying a range of unconventional characters; she played a troubled model in the 2008 drama Fashion, a serial killer in the 2011 neo-noir 7 Khoon Maaf, and an autistic woman in the 2012 romantic comedy Barfi!. Chopra has won a National Film Award for Best Actress and Filmfare Awards in four categories.
Chopra is regarded as one of the most popular celebrities in India and is often cited as a sex symbol. In addition to acting in films, she has participated in stage shows, hosted a reality show on television, written columns for India's national newspapers, performed philanthropic activities, and served as an ambassador for a number of brands. In 2012, she released her first single " In My City", which was met with mixed comments from the critics, but proved a commercial success in India.
♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:01, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
In my opinion, the intro isn't informative enough. As a reader I would expect the intro to be an effective summary of the article so would expect it to tell me what award she won for certain films rather than just winning the four awards.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:11, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I've read the article and I've got to say that several of the lower sections come across as magazine material. It reads more as a magazine, I'm not sure some of the sections like "artistry" are really adequate, I mean U2 and Beatles, really? I don't think it is that necessary in all honesty. Some of the quotes I think are unnecessary. Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:11, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I feel that the article needs a lot of work from an encyclopedic viewpoint. A lot of it does read as cruft and like a magazine. I think we can make it more "traditional" if you know what I mean by reducing some of the quotes and trivia in the lower sections.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Actually count me out, Dharmadhyaksha will only list the article for FAR once it reaches FA anyway. This ill feeling between you all is bitterly disappointing. Editors of the same project should not be listing articles for GAR but should be constructively working together to improve perceived inferior quality articles which have been listed. I'll return to working on promoting Indian articles once this rift between Prashant and other editors here has diminished. I have no desire to work with editors in such a hostile environment.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
One of the major issues for me was the generic "critical and commercial success, performance well-received" for virtually every film. You don't need to state how every film fared at the box office. A lot of the quotes are "nutritionally empty" if you know what I mean and contribute little to the article. A lot of them should be put into prose or even removed I think as it comes across to me as fluff. I've changed a bit from 2006-2008 but I intend going through and changing this. It affects readability and makes the article much less pleasurable to read, in fact the starred in, commercial success, well received combo actually affects the flow of the article.By 2008 the reader will become sick to the core of seeing "commercial and critical success" and "praised". I'd rather more information was given about her roles and production and the occasional quotes rather than generically for almost every film. Quotes for me must always try to provide encyclopedic value by offering information on the nature of a role and acting, rather than the same old "She look's hot" type of thing. I know this is difficult for articles on Indian actresses but still..♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:41, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
I've addressed much of it and it reads better now I think, although still too much "major commercial success" for me, especially 2010-present. Can somebody check that the quoting is consistent, ". incide full-stop is British, outside is American I think, I spotted a few quotes outside, please address Prashant as I think we use Indian/British English for Indian subjects.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:38, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Well, please tell where you found those certain things. We use Indian/British English. I really don't know who added those Amercian English as I always intend to add British English. Most of article published in Indian media use British. Maybe those editors have added who add sources from International media. Prashant 11:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Would be good for one or two to go over this, but I think its near FA standard now. It has almost twice the number of sources as the Zinta article. I think we should nom it soon.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:44, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I think we should nominate it ASAP. The article is very interesting and has shaped up very well. Prashant 16:00, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
That's why Blofeld said to go over it. I think Dwai, you are very good at pointing out mistakes. It would be very helpful, if you could just go over it and give it a tight checkup. Prashant 16:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, please go through Dwai and anybody else interested.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:31, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
The sentence now says, "Chopra became the first actress to feature in school text books". That is very unlikely. At best, she could be the first Indian actress to feature in Indian school texts. Then, this Filmfare page says "one of the first actress to be honoured in a different way". This and some other sources mention a certain school named Springdale School that features her in their text book, while other sources do not mention the name of the school, but just says CBSE textbook. So, is she featured on a particular school's textbook, or, all schools' (CBSE board) text book? (I have no idea whether all schools in CBSE have to follow the same text or individual schools have their own text books)
The ToI source says, "After Rajinikanth, Priyanka Chopra too will feature in school text books here after" This does not mention she is the first actress ever. I understand that this could be very difficult to dig; but at least the "indian" actress part should be mentioned, because there might have been other actresses from other countries who were featured in school texts.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 19:30, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, iDiva is a reliable source. It is the divided publisher of The Times of India for Fashion and Lifestyle. See those TNN tag. Go and add it and for her album, call it in late 2013 as the second single is still to be released and then, I think it may release. Prashant 22:25, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
This source may help regarding the release date of her album. It say sometime after the release of her second single. That means second half of 2013. Prashant 22:38, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Also, it is mentioned right there "In August 2011, Universal Music Group signed Chopra to a worldwide recording agreement with DesiHits. Troy Carter, CEO of Atom Factory (which also manages Lady Gaga), was signed by Chopra to manage her music career. Her first studio album will be released by Interscope Records in North America and by Island Records elsewhere." Look carefully before pointing unwanted issues. First of all we can't mention same thing (release of her album) two times. As you questioned by using "When" tag is really unwanted. Prashant 00:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
The sources are contradictory in regards to this, so that needs to be mentioned somehow. I've reverted my edits, because they were done in a hurry and caused a greater problem. Rediff says [1]:
Originally, Amisha Patel's role had been offered to Priyanka Chopra (before she was crowned Miss World). "We had a mutual agreement with Priyanka that if she was crowned, she would first finish all her social work and promotional campaigns and then immediately begin working for Humraaz," says Abbas. "We wanted to launch her. But she signed on some other films instead. So we offered it to Amisha and she was very excited.
Chopra herself says in an interview [2]:
Abbas-Mustan offered you Humraaz too, but you didn't take it up…: Not really. I was under the Miss World contract that doesn't let you take up any new ventures. The film had to go on floors immediately and I couldn't commit dates.
The problem here is that in the two sources the production team and Chopra are giving contradictory information, which really isn't unusual in the film business since they are creating a public relations story of sorts. There are a few solutions:
The worst-case scenario is to edit war because it affects the article's stability, which is a big consideration when submitting for FAC. Try to work out the details here, calmly. It is important to use the talk page to work out these issues: that's what the talkpage is for. I was posting to this thread last night (actually this long post), but couldn't save because it had been deleted, which is a violation of refactoring. It's okay to strike posts, but once someone has answered, the thread should stand. Anyway, good luck with all of this. I look forward to seeing it back at FAC. Victoria ( talk) 14:21, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
The production team's statement are very contradictory. They said:
Okay, so they had agreement that Chopra should first finish her pageantry commitments, which nearly takes one year to complete, until new miss world is announced. But, According to Directors film took one year to complete. Chopra won in December 2000, her commitments ended in December 2001 (after 1 year). Film released in July 2002. But, here we go contradiction: If Chopra showed interest to complete other films, then how the film released in July2002?, which took one year to complete. Means filming, post production was done from July 2001 (A complete one year). So, how early directors thought she showed interest in other film.
Chopra said she had to turn it down as it came in way of pageantary commitments and the film had to go on floors immediately. Which seems true to the the film release and working process. What's say?— Prashant 14:42, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
What huh?? I always try to read whole text from sources. Rather than in parts. It's natural, if you look at any source.— Prashant 14:58, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
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Prashant by reverting (an FAC opposer) you're basically a] Asking for her to retain her oppose when it reopens b] You're jeopardizing the reopening and success of the FAC reopening because the article has to have long been stable and not subject to dispute. Victoria is an experienced editor with a good number of FA articles under her belt and I think this article needs a pair of non Bollywood eyes looking over it. Feel free to edit as you wish Victoria, I trust your judgement. Prashant if you do something again which threatens the prospect of this article passing FAC I have no alternative but to request that you are topic banned from not only editing this but any article involving Chopra. Enough is enough.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 07:30, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
As for your edit Victoria in which you wrote " However, her pageant commitments (Chopra was competing in the Miss World contest) came in the way; and though the Humraaz producers were willing to delay the production for her, Chopra showed interest in other films, and the role went to Ameesha Patel." I don't think your wording improved it and that looks rather awkward with so many ands and a colon.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 07:34, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Good idea, Victoria please work on it in User:Victoriaearle/Priyanka Chopra.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 09:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Now, everybody is happy that I'm supposed to be topic band. Party all those invisible editors. Your tricks of adding fuel to fire is working and how! Enjoy this moment. I'll be topic band.— Prashant 10:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Dr. Blofeld for the nice comments. Three things:
Thanks all. Victoria ( talk) 17:02, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Support - For this: "After winning Miss India World, Chopra had signed Abbas-Mustan's romantic thriller Humraaz (2002), in which she was to make her film debut.[29] However, this fell through for various reasons: she stated the production conflicted with her schedule, while the producers stated they re-cast because Chopra took on various other commitments."
Full coverage: Both stories, both sources, reader can figure it out.
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