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"Priscillian and his sympathizers included many women, who were welcomed as equals of men" That's incredible if true. I'll have to read the articles because what I'd read previously would disagree with this.-- T. Anthony 12:18, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
This can be interpreted in two ways. Either, the list that follows were practices by Priscillian that were condemned in the canon (so Priscillian forbade fasting on sunday); or it is a list of the condemntions itself (with the implication that Priscilians fasted on sunday). It's non-obvious to infer from context which interpretation is intended. — squell 10:57, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
The last sentence in the fourth paragraph in the section "Continued Priscillianism" is as follows:
I question the tenses of the verbs in this sentence.
If "casts" is changed to "cast", then "the north of Hispania and the south of Gaul" makes sense and can stay as is. Then the first part of the sentence will refer to the few hundred years after Priscillian's death, and something needs to change in order for the second half of the sentence to make sense. Either the time period for "mystic asceticism" being carried to extremes and for "the political mainstream" denouncing it needs to be made clear, or the verbs "has...been" and "has denounced" need to be changed to past tense "was" and "denounced".
If "casts" stays in present tense, suggesting that the shadow cast in the late 300s is still present today, then "Hispania" and "Gaul" need to be updated. Even if this is done, and the second half of the sentence is not changed, it would still be helpful to the reader if it were made clear that the actions in the adverbial clause beginning with "where" have continued until today, or until recently. CorinneSD ( talk) 23:37, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Rm this extraordinary sentence. "Records also state he was the first Christian martyred (executed, and in an horrific manner no less) by the Catholic church (see life of Magnus Maximus). (Hans-Josef Klauck, Brian McNeil, Magic and paganism in early Christianity: the world of the Acts of the Apostles (2003), p.66)
Again rm sentence: "But the official teaching of Rome would not allow it to be the ideal and duty of every Christian Priscillian perished for insisting that it was such; and seven centuries later the Church began to burn the Cathari by thousands because they took a similar view of the Christian life". (Grieve|1911)" This is A.J.Grieve again drawing a false analogy by suggesting Priscillian and the Cathars were similar because they suffered the same manner of death ---which they did not. (see above) When just about all other RS say Priscillian & Co. were beheaded not burned, one has to wonder whether this is a simple oversight on Grieve's part, or something else. Mannanan51 ( talk) 03:27, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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"Priscillian and his sympathizers included many women, who were welcomed as equals of men" That's incredible if true. I'll have to read the articles because what I'd read previously would disagree with this.-- T. Anthony 12:18, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
This can be interpreted in two ways. Either, the list that follows were practices by Priscillian that were condemned in the canon (so Priscillian forbade fasting on sunday); or it is a list of the condemntions itself (with the implication that Priscilians fasted on sunday). It's non-obvious to infer from context which interpretation is intended. — squell 10:57, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
The last sentence in the fourth paragraph in the section "Continued Priscillianism" is as follows:
I question the tenses of the verbs in this sentence.
If "casts" is changed to "cast", then "the north of Hispania and the south of Gaul" makes sense and can stay as is. Then the first part of the sentence will refer to the few hundred years after Priscillian's death, and something needs to change in order for the second half of the sentence to make sense. Either the time period for "mystic asceticism" being carried to extremes and for "the political mainstream" denouncing it needs to be made clear, or the verbs "has...been" and "has denounced" need to be changed to past tense "was" and "denounced".
If "casts" stays in present tense, suggesting that the shadow cast in the late 300s is still present today, then "Hispania" and "Gaul" need to be updated. Even if this is done, and the second half of the sentence is not changed, it would still be helpful to the reader if it were made clear that the actions in the adverbial clause beginning with "where" have continued until today, or until recently. CorinneSD ( talk) 23:37, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Rm this extraordinary sentence. "Records also state he was the first Christian martyred (executed, and in an horrific manner no less) by the Catholic church (see life of Magnus Maximus). (Hans-Josef Klauck, Brian McNeil, Magic and paganism in early Christianity: the world of the Acts of the Apostles (2003), p.66)
Again rm sentence: "But the official teaching of Rome would not allow it to be the ideal and duty of every Christian Priscillian perished for insisting that it was such; and seven centuries later the Church began to burn the Cathari by thousands because they took a similar view of the Christian life". (Grieve|1911)" This is A.J.Grieve again drawing a false analogy by suggesting Priscillian and the Cathars were similar because they suffered the same manner of death ---which they did not. (see above) When just about all other RS say Priscillian & Co. were beheaded not burned, one has to wonder whether this is a simple oversight on Grieve's part, or something else. Mannanan51 ( talk) 03:27, 30 September 2017 (UTC)