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A number of changes have been regarding status of 1918 station , as to whether it is not a contributing property to the HistDist or only listed as part of the ThematicNom.
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Djflem ( talk) 12:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Using the refs provided above, here are some details:
NJ documentation that infers the station is part of the NRHP Princeton Historic District:
NJ documentation that infers the station is not part of the HD, but is standalone:
NPS documentation
Based on the description of the boundaries of the Princeton Historic District, the location of the 1918 station is about 300 feet south of the boundary line, though at that point, the line is a projection. The nomination form references a map, which is not provided in the scan. Unless the station is included as a non-contiguous section of the HD, it doesn't seem within the HD as defined in 1975.
Unfortunately, based on the NPS documentation alone (not including the state documentation), the train station doesn't seem to be part of an HD, nor is it individually listed. Does inclusion on the thematic nomination by the state add the station to the list? There are a few other stations, as listed above, that were on the state list but were not in an HD and not marked as listed by NPS, and aren't marked as included in the wikipedia articles.
Is this station on the NRHP as part of an HD, or on the list via (an un-blessed by NPS) mention on the Thematic Nomination, or not on the NRHP?
Comments welcome. Generic1139 ( talk) 22:01, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
To clarify, 53 stations were nominated (others considered in previous SHPO meetings were vetted and not considered sufficiently significant to be included). The (+) previously listed notation in the nom doesn't appear to be completely correct. The list is ordered by SHPO determination of merit; numbering and (*) are my addition. Djflem ( talk) 10:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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NRHP nomination May 8, 1984 (+)original nomination notation (previously listed) *June 22,1984 September 29, 1984 (entered)
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@ Generic1139 and Djflem: Thanks very much for trying to pin down these confusing details. Previous versions of the article's Infobox NRHP said:
| added = September 29, 1984{{refn|group=n|As part of statewide thematic designation of Operating Railroad Stations in New Jersey}}
| added = September 29, 1984{{refn|group=n|Listed as being on the National Register of Historic Places by the State of New Jersey, but no reference number is given}}
The Notes section of the article is currently empty. Has the September 29, 1984 date become irrelevant or unreliable? Based on your current understanding, could we restore an appropriate one- or two-sentence Note to summarize the uncertain situation, for casual readers of the article? — Patrug ( talk) 21:52, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Allendale station (NJT) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 14:47, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
A fact from Princeton station (NJ Transit) appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the
Did you know column on 22 April 2012 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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A number of changes have been regarding status of 1918 station , as to whether it is not a contributing property to the HistDist or only listed as part of the ThematicNom.
refs:
Djflem ( talk) 12:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Using the refs provided above, here are some details:
NJ documentation that infers the station is part of the NRHP Princeton Historic District:
NJ documentation that infers the station is not part of the HD, but is standalone:
NPS documentation
Based on the description of the boundaries of the Princeton Historic District, the location of the 1918 station is about 300 feet south of the boundary line, though at that point, the line is a projection. The nomination form references a map, which is not provided in the scan. Unless the station is included as a non-contiguous section of the HD, it doesn't seem within the HD as defined in 1975.
Unfortunately, based on the NPS documentation alone (not including the state documentation), the train station doesn't seem to be part of an HD, nor is it individually listed. Does inclusion on the thematic nomination by the state add the station to the list? There are a few other stations, as listed above, that were on the state list but were not in an HD and not marked as listed by NPS, and aren't marked as included in the wikipedia articles.
Is this station on the NRHP as part of an HD, or on the list via (an un-blessed by NPS) mention on the Thematic Nomination, or not on the NRHP?
Comments welcome. Generic1139 ( talk) 22:01, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
To clarify, 53 stations were nominated (others considered in previous SHPO meetings were vetted and not considered sufficiently significant to be included). The (+) previously listed notation in the nom doesn't appear to be completely correct. The list is ordered by SHPO determination of merit; numbering and (*) are my addition. Djflem ( talk) 10:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Operating Passengers Railroad Stations |
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NRHP nomination May 8, 1984 (+)original nomination notation (previously listed) *June 22,1984 September 29, 1984 (entered)
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@ Generic1139 and Djflem: Thanks very much for trying to pin down these confusing details. Previous versions of the article's Infobox NRHP said:
| added = September 29, 1984{{refn|group=n|As part of statewide thematic designation of Operating Railroad Stations in New Jersey}}
| added = September 29, 1984{{refn|group=n|Listed as being on the National Register of Historic Places by the State of New Jersey, but no reference number is given}}
The Notes section of the article is currently empty. Has the September 29, 1984 date become irrelevant or unreliable? Based on your current understanding, could we restore an appropriate one- or two-sentence Note to summarize the uncertain situation, for casual readers of the article? — Patrug ( talk) 21:52, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Allendale station (NJT) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 14:47, 27 April 2017 (UTC)