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This User has reduced this paragraph. I myself think too much information has been cut, but what do others think? Master Thief Garrett 23:51, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I changed pronoun gender on SSBM info -Ben
I don't remember any canon sources saying Zelda's last name is Hyrule, though this is a common royal naming procedure. One of Hyrule's king's last names was Hyrule, however. The bit about OoT's Zelda functioning during a 'reconstruction' period is similarly implied, but not supported. I believe there was nothing to reconstruct as time was rewound, but there are many theories. What's with the 'the real Zelda' section? It should be added with the OoT section. -Unknown
I emailed her (yes, you can do that) and asked her what her last name was and she emailed me back and said it was hyrule and then signed the letter "From, Zelda Hyrule" so I think that's her full name.
Her complete names is Zelda Daphnes Nonsaden Hyrule. It was discovered because of the complete name of Hyrule's king. You can see it on Wind Waker characters on wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.193.127.4 ( talk • contribs) 20:40, 15 July 2006.
I don't think what the article says is right about the origin of Zelda's name. I read it and said "that doesn't sound right" And I remember reading something about it in an old EGM issue. So I looked it up in issue #145 where there is a quote from Shigeru Miyamoto.
Heh, i checked the Zelda Fitzgerald article and it says right there about her name. Am I missing something? Thunderbrand June 28, 2005 04:57 (UTC)
In the part about Super Smash Bros. Melee, there's a rather strange statement:
So, which one is she? Slow or swift? Or did the writer mean to say "but as Sheik is rather graceful and swift", and this inconsistency arose when the description of Sheik was moved to a lower paragraph? In any case, the statement is self-conflicting and therefore nonsensical right now. Unfortunately, I haven't played the game, so I can't fix this :(. -Unknown
Does anyone else think the use of the {{main}} template is horribly ugly, or is it just me? -- WikidSmaht 23:20, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
Upon examining the code, I saw that there is a 'Minor cameos' section that's been commented out. I wanted to add a cameo appearance of Zelda from the Final Fantasy Mystic Quest but now I am uncertain where to add this. Would it be better to add it in 'Appearances in other games' or should the 'Minor cameos' section be uncommented? For now, I'll do the latter and watch the discussion in case there are other opinions. Dkasak 05:47, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Instead of writing "Main article: (Zelda game here)" for every game under "Incarnations of Zelda," why don't the headings just link to the game itself? I think that would be much more prudent. Also, I was thinking about working in the fact that Tetra's name doesn't mean three, but four. (It's a common misconception in Zelda fandom that her name is a reference to the triforce.) Does anyone else think that's worthy of inclusion? Guermantes 22:19, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I thought I'd make a category for Smash Bros. fighters, so I included Zelda. I was thinking it might be neat to include Sheik, too, since the game treats them like seperate characters, but I can't figure out how to make a link so that the category page says "Sheik," too. Right now it just has Zelda. Any ideas? Kidicarus222 08:06, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
In Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess, her designs are both familiar, but the one in Twilight Princess is a better design. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com
In most Zelda games, she appears gentle and fragile during the game. In The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, she and other maidens appear gentle and fragile when sent to the Dark World.
Now that I've made an article for this, I'd like to discuss it more indepth regarding Zelda. So far there is only a brief mention in the cartoon series. However, with fighting as Sheik, blasting Ganon with light, Tetra, SSB:Melee, and her wielding a sword in the new game, I think a section exploring Zelda's evolving role as a warrior could be better explored. Who would like to help? Tyciol 05:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
To be honest, I can't recall myself, but it's being challenged? Who is on the side of Pink and Blue? Please vote for me. If no one speaks up, I'm saved right before Ganondorf, so I can beat his first form to find out if you like. Tyciol 21:51, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
In the section of the article that discusses Zelda's relationships with other characters, it states that Eiji Aonuma was the director of Ocarina of Time. However, Ocarina of Time was directed by Shigeru Miyamoto, and Eiji Aonuma is not to be found in the staff credits of Oot. If evidence is needed, we have access to a text dump of the credits of Ocarina of Time. If nobody objects, I would like to make this correction in the article. Evan Manning 00:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Two of the pictures are gone and now display error messages stating that there is a problem creating the thumbnail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.174.254 ( talk • contribs) 21:41, April 19 2006
While having the Logo of the super show cartoon is great, I'd like to post a picture of Zelda from the show, since it does deviate a great deal from her normal appearance. Would obtaining a pic off google be acceptable, or are there restrictions? Tyciol 13:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I dislike the lack of references in the Zelda’s alter egos section. Computerjoe 's talk 14:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
To expand, the section seems quite long but completely lacks references. As you know, it is necessary to reference things. Backing it up with a few sources would be great.
Also, Incarnations of Zelda lacks references. Though there a few references, 9 of the sub-sections lack them. Adding these references would improve the article! Computerjoe 's talk 19:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Why the revert my addition to the article. I hardly see any problems from the addition made, it simply clarifies a female characteristic that Zelda clearly 'loses' when she changes form. Quite frankly, im suprised about the way the whole paragrapgh dances around the issue without ever simply stting the 'gender identity' issues stright. ( Davinche 08:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC))
Is Sheik ever shown with pierced ears? I noticed the disagreement between the gender of Sheik in the article, and I read somewhere else that males have their ears piereced in a ceremony, so we should be able to tell what Zelda is posing as. H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 22:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
In the Sheikah culture it is a rite of passage to get their ears pierced.
I might be alone in this, but I would like to dispute the call on Link's lineage in The Wind Waker. I personally feel that the game (as have some games before it) is playing off the idea that much of what was known about the Hero has been lost, and that the King was depending purely on legend. (Triumph Forks anyone?)
Some stuff to note:
1. "Link to the Past" appears to set the stage for all Links being of the same bloodline. At the same time, they are revered as if they were a single, returning entity. (Think something along the lines of the second coming of Christ....only in this case, we have the 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc...)
2. Outset island appears to have many traditions specifically involving the Hero of Time, or possible successors. They are also the only remaining "culture" that appears to believe in the triforce. With this in mind, it is not too hard to believe that the family shield did indeed belong to a past Link.
3. The King's information and knowledge is not infallible, and this is made freakishly clear by the story itself. He has, on occasion, sent Link unknowingly into unnecessary danger, due to lack of information, or misinformation.
It is very obvious, due to his interactions with the assorted deities of the ocean, that he was sent on a mission to find the Hero of Time himself. Obviously, the guy is thousands of years dead, and if Link to the Past's idea of a "returning entity of a single bloodline" is true, then no Link was alive during the King's time either. So he picked the next-best thing. An extremely brave kid floating in the ocean. He found the next Hero by pure coincidence.
The wording of the Sheik portion of the article is written in such a way as to imply that Sheik may not be Zelda (it was worse before my recent cleanup). This is just silly. Not only does Zelda herself admit to being disguised as a Sheikah right after Sheik vanishes, not only does Sheik have the glowing mark of the Triforce on "his" hand (which only people with a portion of the Triforce, like Zelda, have), but we actually see the characters swap back and forth in Super Smash Bros. Melee. What gives? -- HeroicJay 21:31, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
It probibly means seprate personalitys. -- DarkHero 04:38, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
SSBM isn't Zelda series canon, just like Soul Calibur isn't. The triforce might just be design, and I can't remember Zelda saying that she actually was Sheik. Argh. Vore tus the Benevolent 05:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
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This User has reduced this paragraph. I myself think too much information has been cut, but what do others think? Master Thief Garrett 23:51, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I changed pronoun gender on SSBM info -Ben
I don't remember any canon sources saying Zelda's last name is Hyrule, though this is a common royal naming procedure. One of Hyrule's king's last names was Hyrule, however. The bit about OoT's Zelda functioning during a 'reconstruction' period is similarly implied, but not supported. I believe there was nothing to reconstruct as time was rewound, but there are many theories. What's with the 'the real Zelda' section? It should be added with the OoT section. -Unknown
I emailed her (yes, you can do that) and asked her what her last name was and she emailed me back and said it was hyrule and then signed the letter "From, Zelda Hyrule" so I think that's her full name.
Her complete names is Zelda Daphnes Nonsaden Hyrule. It was discovered because of the complete name of Hyrule's king. You can see it on Wind Waker characters on wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.193.127.4 ( talk • contribs) 20:40, 15 July 2006.
I don't think what the article says is right about the origin of Zelda's name. I read it and said "that doesn't sound right" And I remember reading something about it in an old EGM issue. So I looked it up in issue #145 where there is a quote from Shigeru Miyamoto.
Heh, i checked the Zelda Fitzgerald article and it says right there about her name. Am I missing something? Thunderbrand June 28, 2005 04:57 (UTC)
In the part about Super Smash Bros. Melee, there's a rather strange statement:
So, which one is she? Slow or swift? Or did the writer mean to say "but as Sheik is rather graceful and swift", and this inconsistency arose when the description of Sheik was moved to a lower paragraph? In any case, the statement is self-conflicting and therefore nonsensical right now. Unfortunately, I haven't played the game, so I can't fix this :(. -Unknown
Does anyone else think the use of the {{main}} template is horribly ugly, or is it just me? -- WikidSmaht 23:20, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
Upon examining the code, I saw that there is a 'Minor cameos' section that's been commented out. I wanted to add a cameo appearance of Zelda from the Final Fantasy Mystic Quest but now I am uncertain where to add this. Would it be better to add it in 'Appearances in other games' or should the 'Minor cameos' section be uncommented? For now, I'll do the latter and watch the discussion in case there are other opinions. Dkasak 05:47, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Instead of writing "Main article: (Zelda game here)" for every game under "Incarnations of Zelda," why don't the headings just link to the game itself? I think that would be much more prudent. Also, I was thinking about working in the fact that Tetra's name doesn't mean three, but four. (It's a common misconception in Zelda fandom that her name is a reference to the triforce.) Does anyone else think that's worthy of inclusion? Guermantes 22:19, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I thought I'd make a category for Smash Bros. fighters, so I included Zelda. I was thinking it might be neat to include Sheik, too, since the game treats them like seperate characters, but I can't figure out how to make a link so that the category page says "Sheik," too. Right now it just has Zelda. Any ideas? Kidicarus222 08:06, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
In Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess, her designs are both familiar, but the one in Twilight Princess is a better design. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com
In most Zelda games, she appears gentle and fragile during the game. In The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, she and other maidens appear gentle and fragile when sent to the Dark World.
Now that I've made an article for this, I'd like to discuss it more indepth regarding Zelda. So far there is only a brief mention in the cartoon series. However, with fighting as Sheik, blasting Ganon with light, Tetra, SSB:Melee, and her wielding a sword in the new game, I think a section exploring Zelda's evolving role as a warrior could be better explored. Who would like to help? Tyciol 05:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
To be honest, I can't recall myself, but it's being challenged? Who is on the side of Pink and Blue? Please vote for me. If no one speaks up, I'm saved right before Ganondorf, so I can beat his first form to find out if you like. Tyciol 21:51, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
In the section of the article that discusses Zelda's relationships with other characters, it states that Eiji Aonuma was the director of Ocarina of Time. However, Ocarina of Time was directed by Shigeru Miyamoto, and Eiji Aonuma is not to be found in the staff credits of Oot. If evidence is needed, we have access to a text dump of the credits of Ocarina of Time. If nobody objects, I would like to make this correction in the article. Evan Manning 00:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Two of the pictures are gone and now display error messages stating that there is a problem creating the thumbnail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.174.254 ( talk • contribs) 21:41, April 19 2006
While having the Logo of the super show cartoon is great, I'd like to post a picture of Zelda from the show, since it does deviate a great deal from her normal appearance. Would obtaining a pic off google be acceptable, or are there restrictions? Tyciol 13:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I dislike the lack of references in the Zelda’s alter egos section. Computerjoe 's talk 14:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
To expand, the section seems quite long but completely lacks references. As you know, it is necessary to reference things. Backing it up with a few sources would be great.
Also, Incarnations of Zelda lacks references. Though there a few references, 9 of the sub-sections lack them. Adding these references would improve the article! Computerjoe 's talk 19:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Why the revert my addition to the article. I hardly see any problems from the addition made, it simply clarifies a female characteristic that Zelda clearly 'loses' when she changes form. Quite frankly, im suprised about the way the whole paragrapgh dances around the issue without ever simply stting the 'gender identity' issues stright. ( Davinche 08:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC))
Is Sheik ever shown with pierced ears? I noticed the disagreement between the gender of Sheik in the article, and I read somewhere else that males have their ears piereced in a ceremony, so we should be able to tell what Zelda is posing as. H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 22:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
In the Sheikah culture it is a rite of passage to get their ears pierced.
I might be alone in this, but I would like to dispute the call on Link's lineage in The Wind Waker. I personally feel that the game (as have some games before it) is playing off the idea that much of what was known about the Hero has been lost, and that the King was depending purely on legend. (Triumph Forks anyone?)
Some stuff to note:
1. "Link to the Past" appears to set the stage for all Links being of the same bloodline. At the same time, they are revered as if they were a single, returning entity. (Think something along the lines of the second coming of Christ....only in this case, we have the 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc...)
2. Outset island appears to have many traditions specifically involving the Hero of Time, or possible successors. They are also the only remaining "culture" that appears to believe in the triforce. With this in mind, it is not too hard to believe that the family shield did indeed belong to a past Link.
3. The King's information and knowledge is not infallible, and this is made freakishly clear by the story itself. He has, on occasion, sent Link unknowingly into unnecessary danger, due to lack of information, or misinformation.
It is very obvious, due to his interactions with the assorted deities of the ocean, that he was sent on a mission to find the Hero of Time himself. Obviously, the guy is thousands of years dead, and if Link to the Past's idea of a "returning entity of a single bloodline" is true, then no Link was alive during the King's time either. So he picked the next-best thing. An extremely brave kid floating in the ocean. He found the next Hero by pure coincidence.
The wording of the Sheik portion of the article is written in such a way as to imply that Sheik may not be Zelda (it was worse before my recent cleanup). This is just silly. Not only does Zelda herself admit to being disguised as a Sheikah right after Sheik vanishes, not only does Sheik have the glowing mark of the Triforce on "his" hand (which only people with a portion of the Triforce, like Zelda, have), but we actually see the characters swap back and forth in Super Smash Bros. Melee. What gives? -- HeroicJay 21:31, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
It probibly means seprate personalitys. -- DarkHero 04:38, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
SSBM isn't Zelda series canon, just like Soul Calibur isn't. The triforce might just be design, and I can't remember Zelda saying that she actually was Sheik. Argh. Vore tus the Benevolent 05:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)