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"...it was 1946 and the United Kingdom was at war with Germany."
The Second World War ended in 1945. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.222.156 ( talk) 22:35, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
She was not biological offspring of her parents. http://forum.molgen.org/index.php/topic,1982.msg61490.html#msg61490
@ FactStraight: Unfortunately the English-speaking public has not paid attention to it, because it was only disclosed in Russian. But a respected employee of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences population genetics branch ( http://genofond.ru ) has confirmed it. I quote here. Russian speakers can confirm that I'm reporting his words correctly. "Если задачу ставить аккуратно - именно, изучение истории, восстановление прошлого, а не проверка ветвей одной семьи на вшивость - это выглядит благородно. Вспомним. что когда идентифицировали Романовых, более десятка принцев сдали свои образцы. Не обошлось без скандалов тогда, например один известный автор (вечный оппонент АК :) ) на весь свет раструбил что сестра Ф-па Эдинб-ского таковой на самом деле не является. Это было самое начало широкого применения таких методов, и наверное в то время эксперты и те кто были к ним приближены, не осознавали полностью своей ответствености." -- Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii ( talk) 16:02, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
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In the article about her mother, the text states: When her daughter, Princess George of Hanover, complained that it would be too far away for them to visit her grave, Princess Andrew jested, "Nonsense, there's a perfectly good bus service!". Her wish was realised on 3 August 1988 when her remains were transferred to her final resting place in a crypt below the church. which suggests at least that Princess Sophie was not much in favor of this request. In contrast, this article currently states: In 1988, Sophie had the satisfaction of making her mother's last wishes come true by transferring her remains to the Church of Mary Magdalene, on the Mount of Olives, in Jerusalem., implying a much more positive attitude. I don't have access to either supporting sources, but I guess we should probably make these two statements somehow fit each other, or phrase both more neutrally. If we don't know Sophie's stance on the matter, we shouldn't imply it. @ DrKay and Keivan.f: I see you added the respective claims [1] [2], so maybe you can help figure this out. effeiets anders 22:00, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure how well it can be described that she was "deceived" by Hitler; was she merely deceived into thinking he was pleasant? Or was she deceived into thinking he meant absolutely no harm, despite the fact that she joined the Nazi party of her own volition and was very attached to it, and likely would have known about the party's goals and beliefs? Some clarification would go a long way.— Ineffablebookkeeper ( talk) ({{ ping}} me!) 15:06, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
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"...it was 1946 and the United Kingdom was at war with Germany."
The Second World War ended in 1945. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.222.156 ( talk) 22:35, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
She was not biological offspring of her parents. http://forum.molgen.org/index.php/topic,1982.msg61490.html#msg61490
@ FactStraight: Unfortunately the English-speaking public has not paid attention to it, because it was only disclosed in Russian. But a respected employee of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences population genetics branch ( http://genofond.ru ) has confirmed it. I quote here. Russian speakers can confirm that I'm reporting his words correctly. "Если задачу ставить аккуратно - именно, изучение истории, восстановление прошлого, а не проверка ветвей одной семьи на вшивость - это выглядит благородно. Вспомним. что когда идентифицировали Романовых, более десятка принцев сдали свои образцы. Не обошлось без скандалов тогда, например один известный автор (вечный оппонент АК :) ) на весь свет раструбил что сестра Ф-па Эдинб-ского таковой на самом деле не является. Это было самое начало широкого применения таких методов, и наверное в то время эксперты и те кто были к ним приближены, не осознавали полностью своей ответствености." -- Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii ( talk) 16:02, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
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In the article about her mother, the text states: When her daughter, Princess George of Hanover, complained that it would be too far away for them to visit her grave, Princess Andrew jested, "Nonsense, there's a perfectly good bus service!". Her wish was realised on 3 August 1988 when her remains were transferred to her final resting place in a crypt below the church. which suggests at least that Princess Sophie was not much in favor of this request. In contrast, this article currently states: In 1988, Sophie had the satisfaction of making her mother's last wishes come true by transferring her remains to the Church of Mary Magdalene, on the Mount of Olives, in Jerusalem., implying a much more positive attitude. I don't have access to either supporting sources, but I guess we should probably make these two statements somehow fit each other, or phrase both more neutrally. If we don't know Sophie's stance on the matter, we shouldn't imply it. @ DrKay and Keivan.f: I see you added the respective claims [1] [2], so maybe you can help figure this out. effeiets anders 22:00, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure how well it can be described that she was "deceived" by Hitler; was she merely deceived into thinking he was pleasant? Or was she deceived into thinking he meant absolutely no harm, despite the fact that she joined the Nazi party of her own volition and was very attached to it, and likely would have known about the party's goals and beliefs? Some clarification would go a long way.— Ineffablebookkeeper ( talk) ({{ ping}} me!) 15:06, 15 January 2023 (UTC)