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Hey I'm trying to track the history of the area, can anyone give me a rundown of celbrities living in Primrose hill and if possible dates too? 82.35.245.80 14:57, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I've removed this text from the article:
In August 2006 the area became the subject of media attention when an empty multi-million pound house was taken over by a group of squatters. The property, adjacent to Primrose Hill Park and owned by a Russian Corporation, became host to weekly all-night psychedelic trance raves. The events were highly publicised and attracted hundreds of revellers, causing outrage amongst the local residents, who complained of open drug abuse, noise pollution and littering.
It's unsourced, and claims like "highly publicised" "attracted hundreds" and "outrage" would need to be backed up, it also had no place being in the lede. Pafcool2
The Primrose Hill in fiction section states that GA's current single contains a reference to the area, but does not provide a reference. Sarah Harding sings 'walking primrose', but does that really mean 'walking in Primrose Hill, London'? The song does not contain hill, nor anything else that could be remotely connected with the area. The setting of the song's video is a drive-in movie theatre, which do not, and never have, existed in the UK. I think it very likely that the video is set (though probably not made) in the United States. If so, 'primrose' is very unlikely to refer to a part of north London. Does anyone know what Sarah actually means, when, in the song, she claims to be 'walking primrose'? Werdnawerdna ( talk) 18:52, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
In the House of Lords examination of the witnesses -or alleged witnesses- to Sir Ednumd Berry Godfrey (or Edmondbury), in 1679, "Greenberry Hill" is not referred to, but "Primrose Hill". So when did the name actually change? The men hanged were Greene, Berry and Hill, and perhaps this is not entirely a coincidence but that the Hill became populoarly misnamed as a result. It seems they were actually hanged on site at the Hill. Furthermore the pack of printed playing cards issued at the time and in the National Portrait gallery has a card illustrating the body of Sir E.B. Godfree being taken by horse to "Prim rose Hill". Charles Fort refers to Greenberry Hill as one of his amazing coicidences that so obsessed him, but his source was an article in the New York Herald of 1911 (26 November) in a column about co incidences. Somerset House, where Godfrey's body was alid out & alleged crime scene was also subsequently known as "Godfrey Hall", so it is possible that in the same way "Greenberry Hill" was a popular nickname subsequent to the hanging of Greene and Hill on 21.February 1679 and Berry on 28.February 1679.
Also the contemporary spelling is Sir Edmondbury Godfrey or Sir E.B. Godfree.-- Streona ( talk) 09:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
There's such a thing as being too bold so I decided against deleting the section just yet and wanted to open this for discussion first.
The current "Cultural references" is a WP:TRIVIA section with a list of miscellaneous and indiscriminate information. The very basic premise under which material is added to an article is that the newly added material should provide to the reader a further understanding of the topic. At times, trivia sections can contain helpful information but the contributing editors sometimes don't take the time to place it in the right section and format it properly (ie, list vs prose). In that case, this useful information can be moved to its appropriate section and written out as prose with, ideally, a reference to back up the new claim.
In this article, one would have a hard time presenting a case that any of the information contained in the section provides a further understanding to the reader rather than just being a list of fan-favourite occurances of the term "Primrose Hill" in their favourite band's song or the film they saw last night. Further, nothing is referenced and all of the information is obtained from primary sources; reliable third-party, secondary sources would be difficult to obtain for this list but even then the question of notablity as relating to the main article remains.
Basically, if unchecked, this list could grow on forever. The article subject is famous and there will undoubtedly be many more references to it in media but, per WP:NOTDIR, Wikipedia is not "a complete exposition of all possible details" so we need to excercise restraint to include only the information that provides further understanding of the topic. Imagine the length of a "Cultural references" section of New York City if every instance of its mention in a song or a film made it suitable for inclusion in the list. I propose to delete the current section and replace it with a very short section of prose that may look something like: "Primrose Hill is often mentioned in film and music..." and provide a reference that links to an external site listing these instances. Would anyone object to this? Big Bird ( talk • contribs) 15:55, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Most of those notable residents aren't very notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.96.226.72 ( talk) 15:30, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
The prominent William Blake inscription dominating the viewing area at the top of the hill seems notable, and in my opinion, ought to be included in this article, especially if Blue Plaques are being mentioned. I'm just not sure what to call the section. Any ideas? Sunny Sundae Smile ( talk) 10:59, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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I live near Primrose Hill and according to the map and Royal Parks website, Primrose Hill is the name of the park, not the hill. Berrely ( talk • contribs) 08:50, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
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I propose that sections District be split into a separate page called Primrose Hill (district). The content of the current page seems off-topic and these sections are large enough to make their own page. — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕ Contribs 08:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi,
the second highest natural point in the London Borough of Camden.
I think that sentence is misleading and the source is not particularly useful here. Primrose hill is possibly the 2nd highest prominence, but all of Belsize Park and Hampstead Village are higher than the peak of Primrose Hill at 64m. -- Trublu ( talk) 09:30, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
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Hey I'm trying to track the history of the area, can anyone give me a rundown of celbrities living in Primrose hill and if possible dates too? 82.35.245.80 14:57, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I've removed this text from the article:
In August 2006 the area became the subject of media attention when an empty multi-million pound house was taken over by a group of squatters. The property, adjacent to Primrose Hill Park and owned by a Russian Corporation, became host to weekly all-night psychedelic trance raves. The events were highly publicised and attracted hundreds of revellers, causing outrage amongst the local residents, who complained of open drug abuse, noise pollution and littering.
It's unsourced, and claims like "highly publicised" "attracted hundreds" and "outrage" would need to be backed up, it also had no place being in the lede. Pafcool2
The Primrose Hill in fiction section states that GA's current single contains a reference to the area, but does not provide a reference. Sarah Harding sings 'walking primrose', but does that really mean 'walking in Primrose Hill, London'? The song does not contain hill, nor anything else that could be remotely connected with the area. The setting of the song's video is a drive-in movie theatre, which do not, and never have, existed in the UK. I think it very likely that the video is set (though probably not made) in the United States. If so, 'primrose' is very unlikely to refer to a part of north London. Does anyone know what Sarah actually means, when, in the song, she claims to be 'walking primrose'? Werdnawerdna ( talk) 18:52, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
In the House of Lords examination of the witnesses -or alleged witnesses- to Sir Ednumd Berry Godfrey (or Edmondbury), in 1679, "Greenberry Hill" is not referred to, but "Primrose Hill". So when did the name actually change? The men hanged were Greene, Berry and Hill, and perhaps this is not entirely a coincidence but that the Hill became populoarly misnamed as a result. It seems they were actually hanged on site at the Hill. Furthermore the pack of printed playing cards issued at the time and in the National Portrait gallery has a card illustrating the body of Sir E.B. Godfree being taken by horse to "Prim rose Hill". Charles Fort refers to Greenberry Hill as one of his amazing coicidences that so obsessed him, but his source was an article in the New York Herald of 1911 (26 November) in a column about co incidences. Somerset House, where Godfrey's body was alid out & alleged crime scene was also subsequently known as "Godfrey Hall", so it is possible that in the same way "Greenberry Hill" was a popular nickname subsequent to the hanging of Greene and Hill on 21.February 1679 and Berry on 28.February 1679.
Also the contemporary spelling is Sir Edmondbury Godfrey or Sir E.B. Godfree.-- Streona ( talk) 09:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
There's such a thing as being too bold so I decided against deleting the section just yet and wanted to open this for discussion first.
The current "Cultural references" is a WP:TRIVIA section with a list of miscellaneous and indiscriminate information. The very basic premise under which material is added to an article is that the newly added material should provide to the reader a further understanding of the topic. At times, trivia sections can contain helpful information but the contributing editors sometimes don't take the time to place it in the right section and format it properly (ie, list vs prose). In that case, this useful information can be moved to its appropriate section and written out as prose with, ideally, a reference to back up the new claim.
In this article, one would have a hard time presenting a case that any of the information contained in the section provides a further understanding to the reader rather than just being a list of fan-favourite occurances of the term "Primrose Hill" in their favourite band's song or the film they saw last night. Further, nothing is referenced and all of the information is obtained from primary sources; reliable third-party, secondary sources would be difficult to obtain for this list but even then the question of notablity as relating to the main article remains.
Basically, if unchecked, this list could grow on forever. The article subject is famous and there will undoubtedly be many more references to it in media but, per WP:NOTDIR, Wikipedia is not "a complete exposition of all possible details" so we need to excercise restraint to include only the information that provides further understanding of the topic. Imagine the length of a "Cultural references" section of New York City if every instance of its mention in a song or a film made it suitable for inclusion in the list. I propose to delete the current section and replace it with a very short section of prose that may look something like: "Primrose Hill is often mentioned in film and music..." and provide a reference that links to an external site listing these instances. Would anyone object to this? Big Bird ( talk • contribs) 15:55, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Most of those notable residents aren't very notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.96.226.72 ( talk) 15:30, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
The prominent William Blake inscription dominating the viewing area at the top of the hill seems notable, and in my opinion, ought to be included in this article, especially if Blue Plaques are being mentioned. I'm just not sure what to call the section. Any ideas? Sunny Sundae Smile ( talk) 10:59, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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I live near Primrose Hill and according to the map and Royal Parks website, Primrose Hill is the name of the park, not the hill. Berrely ( talk • contribs) 08:50, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.
You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, — Yours, Bᴇʀʀᴇʟʏ • Talk∕ Contribs 11:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I propose that sections District be split into a separate page called Primrose Hill (district). The content of the current page seems off-topic and these sections are large enough to make their own page. — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕ Contribs 08:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi,
the second highest natural point in the London Borough of Camden.
I think that sentence is misleading and the source is not particularly useful here. Primrose hill is possibly the 2nd highest prominence, but all of Belsize Park and Hampstead Village are higher than the peak of Primrose Hill at 64m. -- Trublu ( talk) 09:30, 2 March 2023 (UTC)