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There's been alot of confusion about the name of this page. User:WWEJobber believes this page should be named Epico & Primo and changed it while I reverted it back due to sources stating that the name is Primo & Epico. I want to know from everybody what this page should be named and if we reached an agreement about the name, how can we prevent this from happening again. Mikeymike2001 ( talk) 20:01, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 23:18, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Los Matadores → Primo & Epico – The undiscussed move was definitely controversial and should not have been done without a discussion, with the editor moving the page of a team from its former name to the current name. Although Primo & Epico have been renamed/repackaged as Los Matadores, their previous characters should still have the WP:COMMONNAME, having been Primo & Epico from November 2011 to June 2013, while Los Matadores have only existed from September 2013. Also significant is that as Primo & Epico, the duo have been a one-time WWE Tag Team Champions, and have defended their titles at WrestleMania XXVIII, albeit in the pre-show. Los Matadores have won nothing yet. Also, two other WP:PW users back this move. Starship.paint ( talk) 09:15, 6 November 2013 (UTC) Starship.paint ( talk) 09:15, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
If the name of a person, group, object, or other article topic changes, then more weight should be given to the name used in reliable sources published after the name change than in those before the change.We should note that this is not limited only to sources that are used in the article. In addition to other sources that refer to this team as "Los Matadores", there are several sources that are used in the article that were published after the name change. If these are to be given more weight as per the Wikipedia article titles policy, then we must all consider that the renaming of this article to Los Matadores was quite possibly a justified move. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 19:32, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Can someone move this article again to Primo & Epico? Borikén ( talk) 02:58, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
They are a parody of the government's All-Star Island tourism campaign, from their use of the catchphrase "Come to Puerto Rico... The Shinning Star of the Caribbean" to their emphasis on the nature, lifestyle and their mock pro-tourism vignettes. As a matter of fact, the "star" cognomen is new when referring to Puerto Rico (it is not a traditional nickname) and began with this 2014 campaign. 107.77.215.231 ( talk) 04:15, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
Now that both tag teams within the Colón family have been referred to as "The Colóns", would it be the right time to fuse them into something like Anoaʻi family? Their lineage has been part of the gimmick of CCC/Primo/Epico, and I can dig some references from their WWC runs to compliment the WWE material. I'm not sure that either of the team articles can make GA (especially the 2010 team, given its brief run and sporadic WWC team-ups), but a family article has potential, with additional material for Carlos Colón and Stacy. El Alternativo ( talk) 05:56, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Primo and Epico. ( non-admin closure) — JJMC89 ( T· C) 02:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Primo & Epico → Primo Colón & Epico Colón – Procedural nomination following contested undiscussed move. I am neutral. TonyBallioni ( talk) 23:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
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There's been alot of confusion about the name of this page. User:WWEJobber believes this page should be named Epico & Primo and changed it while I reverted it back due to sources stating that the name is Primo & Epico. I want to know from everybody what this page should be named and if we reached an agreement about the name, how can we prevent this from happening again. Mikeymike2001 ( talk) 20:01, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 23:18, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Los Matadores → Primo & Epico – The undiscussed move was definitely controversial and should not have been done without a discussion, with the editor moving the page of a team from its former name to the current name. Although Primo & Epico have been renamed/repackaged as Los Matadores, their previous characters should still have the WP:COMMONNAME, having been Primo & Epico from November 2011 to June 2013, while Los Matadores have only existed from September 2013. Also significant is that as Primo & Epico, the duo have been a one-time WWE Tag Team Champions, and have defended their titles at WrestleMania XXVIII, albeit in the pre-show. Los Matadores have won nothing yet. Also, two other WP:PW users back this move. Starship.paint ( talk) 09:15, 6 November 2013 (UTC) Starship.paint ( talk) 09:15, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
If the name of a person, group, object, or other article topic changes, then more weight should be given to the name used in reliable sources published after the name change than in those before the change.We should note that this is not limited only to sources that are used in the article. In addition to other sources that refer to this team as "Los Matadores", there are several sources that are used in the article that were published after the name change. If these are to be given more weight as per the Wikipedia article titles policy, then we must all consider that the renaming of this article to Los Matadores was quite possibly a justified move. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 19:32, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Can someone move this article again to Primo & Epico? Borikén ( talk) 02:58, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
They are a parody of the government's All-Star Island tourism campaign, from their use of the catchphrase "Come to Puerto Rico... The Shinning Star of the Caribbean" to their emphasis on the nature, lifestyle and their mock pro-tourism vignettes. As a matter of fact, the "star" cognomen is new when referring to Puerto Rico (it is not a traditional nickname) and began with this 2014 campaign. 107.77.215.231 ( talk) 04:15, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
Now that both tag teams within the Colón family have been referred to as "The Colóns", would it be the right time to fuse them into something like Anoaʻi family? Their lineage has been part of the gimmick of CCC/Primo/Epico, and I can dig some references from their WWC runs to compliment the WWE material. I'm not sure that either of the team articles can make GA (especially the 2010 team, given its brief run and sporadic WWC team-ups), but a family article has potential, with additional material for Carlos Colón and Stacy. El Alternativo ( talk) 05:56, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Primo and Epico. ( non-admin closure) — JJMC89 ( T· C) 02:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Primo & Epico → Primo Colón & Epico Colón – Procedural nomination following contested undiscussed move. I am neutral. TonyBallioni ( talk) 23:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)