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I've put the notability tag back up here and it will stay until notability has been met. As of now I don't think 1 cited source and 3 references amounting to 4-5 small paragraphs worth of information is notable. Notability guidlines say that "a topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and I don't think what is included proves significant coverage. This does not mean that this article cannot be notable but as of right now it does not display meet notability guidelines.
However I would be in favor of merging the 2 schismatic articles into a broader article such as Schisms (The Church of Jesus Christ) that could include both church's and more information. I think it would be better to do that since there seems to be a link between the 1907 and 1914 groups. JRN 16:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Accuracy might help yours. Your comment from Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ#Schisms:
From the restoration up until today many people have left the church and tried to either found their own church or joined with another organization. I don't think it's necessary to cover all of the "schisms" just because people disagreed and left. You seem to be making a big deal about everything and trying to find faults with the church so that you can feel substatiated in your arguements that we have "glossed over" because it would hurt our faith too much to know that someone who lead the church was a man and had faults. It's your assumptions and not mine that are detrimental to the discussions here. I hope you can see the hypocrisy in your arguements.
I'm just going to sit here and soak up the irony of your comments. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 08:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Due to real life time commitments, I'm not going to be reading, much less responding to, any of the comments here for some time. Any comments should be directed at the community at large regarding the article and not to me specifically if they are to have any utility. Cheers. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 21:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I've added the template {Template:Citation needed}, which from your original edit summaries seemed to be your concern and what you were getting at. The article has sources to establish notability, but there are no specific footnotes yet for most of the individual sentences. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 23:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was move. Duja ► 07:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
It appears that this page was originally named Primitive Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite) and then was changed without discussion—the "ite" was dropped off the disambiguator. In the interests of consistency, I'm proposing that the name be changed back. The category is called Category:Rigdonite-Bickertonite movement and the parent church of this church was recently moved to Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite). I don't think we need to rehash all of the arguments made there about the appropriate name for that article. I simply propose this change as a housekeeping matter of promoting consistency. Snocrates 03:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
I've provided ample reasoning, i.e., it's the term all of the sourced references use. It will also promote consistency in category/article naming. You have asserted many things, but provided no real proof of current trends in referring to this org. Snocrates 21:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
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I've put the notability tag back up here and it will stay until notability has been met. As of now I don't think 1 cited source and 3 references amounting to 4-5 small paragraphs worth of information is notable. Notability guidlines say that "a topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and I don't think what is included proves significant coverage. This does not mean that this article cannot be notable but as of right now it does not display meet notability guidelines.
However I would be in favor of merging the 2 schismatic articles into a broader article such as Schisms (The Church of Jesus Christ) that could include both church's and more information. I think it would be better to do that since there seems to be a link between the 1907 and 1914 groups. JRN 16:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Accuracy might help yours. Your comment from Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ#Schisms:
From the restoration up until today many people have left the church and tried to either found their own church or joined with another organization. I don't think it's necessary to cover all of the "schisms" just because people disagreed and left. You seem to be making a big deal about everything and trying to find faults with the church so that you can feel substatiated in your arguements that we have "glossed over" because it would hurt our faith too much to know that someone who lead the church was a man and had faults. It's your assumptions and not mine that are detrimental to the discussions here. I hope you can see the hypocrisy in your arguements.
I'm just going to sit here and soak up the irony of your comments. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 08:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Due to real life time commitments, I'm not going to be reading, much less responding to, any of the comments here for some time. Any comments should be directed at the community at large regarding the article and not to me specifically if they are to have any utility. Cheers. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 21:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I've added the template {Template:Citation needed}, which from your original edit summaries seemed to be your concern and what you were getting at. The article has sources to establish notability, but there are no specific footnotes yet for most of the individual sentences. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 23:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was move. Duja ► 07:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
It appears that this page was originally named Primitive Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite) and then was changed without discussion—the "ite" was dropped off the disambiguator. In the interests of consistency, I'm proposing that the name be changed back. The category is called Category:Rigdonite-Bickertonite movement and the parent church of this church was recently moved to Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite). I don't think we need to rehash all of the arguments made there about the appropriate name for that article. I simply propose this change as a housekeeping matter of promoting consistency. Snocrates 03:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
I've provided ample reasoning, i.e., it's the term all of the sourced references use. It will also promote consistency in category/article naming. You have asserted many things, but provided no real proof of current trends in referring to this org. Snocrates 21:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)