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Did Reagan say he was unaware of the entire Iran-Contra fiasco, or just the funding of the Contras? Trey Stone 01:04, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Changed the sentence in the header about the AIDS epidemic being ignored. The budget for AIDS research, treatment and prevention increased from $200,000 in FY 1981 (the last budget of the Carter administration), to more than $900 million in the Reagan administration's last budget (FY 1988, which closed on September 30, 1988). That can hardly be equated with "ignoring" the situation. Ellsworth 21:22, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Removed this sentence:
I would like to see this documented: as mentioned above, the AIDS research budget skyrocketed during the '80s and the CDC took the lead on the issue. Ellsworth 00:25, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
And also removed this sentence from para. about the Watkins commission:
Incorrect: see the report below. Funding for AIDS research, prevention and treatment increased every year during both the Reagan and the G.H.W. Bush administrations. Ellsworth 21:49, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Analysis of AIDS spending by Federal government (PDF document) Ellsworth
A couple of comments on this report: a) The report shows that AIDS funding doubled within 2 years after Reagan left office. b) Shouldn't funding be somewhat proportional to the number of AIDS cases, which ballooned even more under this administration? User: anon
I dropped these links about when Reagan mentioned AIDS: one was a policy address and the other was a press conference.
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1985/91785c.htm http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1986/20686c.htm
I'll find the sources again one of these days....
Ellsworth 02:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I got a reply "The links below should get you to these speeches. I should mention however, that the second link does not lead to either a speech or press conference. Rather, it was a message transmitted to Congress in a letter or report form."
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1985/91785c.htm http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1986/20686c.htm Brian Pearson 21:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
This Sullivan blog entry contains an unsourced quote from September 1985 by Reagan on AIDS funding. It'll do until I can run down a source. Ellsworth 20:54, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Now this one is down to - redirects to his Atlantic blog page. I'll find some perm. links eventually. The busted link: http://www.andrewsullivan.com/index.php?dish_inc=archives/2004_06_06_dish_archive.html#108667202656741224 Ellsworth 00:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
I see the NPOV section dispute, and agree in part, but could someone cite specifics? In the mean time I will try and remove some of the more tendentious phrases. Ellsworth 01:02, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
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Why is it that some presidents have two pages about them, one for the person in general and one for just the administration. See Ronald Reagan and Reagan Administration. The administration pages seem redundant as the information is mostly the same on both pages. I have also posted this on the Ronald Reagan talk page.
I came by this site searching for the term "reagan revolution", yet it is not defined in the text. Perhaps this should be added. 84.169.217.197 19:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
My apologies if no-one else regards this as significant. But upon reading the actual script of Reagan's 1982 address to the House of Commons (available at [1], I note that he announced his plan to leave "Marxism-Leninism on the ash heap of history", whereas this article suggests he wanted to committ the Soviet State (described using Reagan's terminology Evil Empire) to said ash heap.
Isn't the actual text much less provocative? I think the difference is worth noting. Hydeparkblvd ( talk) 19:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Perro asesino, ojala te estes pudriendo en el infierno. f. Los masacrados en el mozote. El Salvador —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.87.243.226 ( talk) 01:01, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Didn't Unemployment rise significantly during his first term in office? It doesn't seem to be mentioned in the article. In fact the whole article seems to find no fault in Reagan's period in office. I seem to recall he hit the poorest pretty bad. Setwisohi ( talk) 08:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Previously, I merged the content from Reagan administration scandals into the "Controversies" section of this article. Then I remembered WP:CRITICISM, and merged that section as rewritten, integrated text into Domestic policy of the Reagan administration, where they currently remain.
WP:MERGE states: "Merging is a normal editing action, something any editor can do, and as such does not need to be proposed and processed. If you think merging something improves the encyclopedia, you can be bold and perform the merge, as described below. Because of this, it makes little sense to object to a merge purely on procedural grounds, e.g. 'you cannot do that without discussion' is not a good argument." My actions were in good faith and I was bold and merged the pages because I found it to be a very big improvement to the encyclopedia. But, the merge has now been contested. Here's why I believe the merge should occur:
Again, I'll be the first to acknowledge that I look highly upon Ronald Reagan. As I think I've demonstrated before, though, I'm not above placing criticisms of him in his article or other places. But I'm not advocating the merge of this article to "sanitize" Reagan or anyone else; I'm doing it because of the reasons listed above. Thanks, Happyme22 ( talk) 03:16, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Whether the contents of Reagan administration scandals should be reworked and integrated into the text of Presidency of Ronald Reagan, Domestic policy of the Reagan administration, and Foreign policy of the Reagan administration.
Support Merge - I would support the merge based on WP:UNDUE if nothing else. As has been pointed out the major controversies already have dedicated pages which can be appropriately linked and summarized from within the pages identified above. Having a separate "scandals" page only serves to provide yet another place to rehash the same material thus making it WP:UNDUE. Summarize the material in the appropriate other pages for the Reagan presidency as has been done with other presidents and, for the truly large controversies, let them each have their own dedicated article so that the details can be brought forth there. There is no need for a redundant repository of this material. -- GoRight ( talk) 00:50, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Put it ALL out there. Even on the all of the other Presidents. Why are we so afraid to tell it like it was? Put the positives and the negatives of the Reagan admistration out for all to see. Don't try to clean up the man's term as President just because he has passed. TELL IT ALL !!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.54.1.206 ( talk) 17:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Queen Noor in her biography "Leap of Faith" (2003) recounts her late husband's meeting with Ronald Reagan in 1988 and mentions that King Hussein was surprised that Reagan could not sustain a simple conversation and did not understand his questions. She assumes that President Reagan was already sick by that time. (Paperback edition, page 279) Пипумбрик ( talk) 04:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
The article states: " This with some other "deregulation" policies ultimately led[citation needed] to the largest political and financial scandal in U.S. history: The Savings and Loan crisis. The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around USD$150 billion, about $125 billion of which was consequently and directly subsidized by the U.S. government, which contributed to the large budget deficits of the early 1990s.[citation needed] An indication of this scandal's size, Martin Mayer wrote at the time, "The theft from the taxpayer by the community that fattened on the growth of the savings and loan (S&L) industry in the 1980s is the worst public scandal in American history. Teapot Dome in the Harding administration and the Credit Mobilier in the times of Ulysses S. Grant have been taken as the ultimate horror stories of capitalist democracy gone to seed. Measuring by money, [or] by the misallocation of national resources...the S&L outrage makes Teapot Dome and Credit Mobilier seem minor episodes."[18] John Kenneth Galbraith called it "the largest and costliest venture in public misfeasance, malfeasance and larceny of all time."[19]"
First, I believe that it is very much a matter of opinion whether or not the Reagan Administration was responsible for the S&L crisis. If we are going to present a claim that the Reagan Administration was responsible it should be balanced with a contrary opinion unless there is an overwhelming consensus.
Second, any such claim should be backed by a cite. Note that nowhere in what I have excerpted is a cite for the link between the crisis and the Reagan Administration - this is pure unsourced opinion.
Finally, note that we have 2.5 paragraphs of this. Two of them are just talking about how bad the S&L crisis was without any link to the Reagan Administration. I think this is undue weight.
If this was not a high profile (and probably controversial page) I would just delete this but since I expect that there are still some people with strong emotions about Reagan I will wait for comments. Mike Friedman ( talk) 11:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
This statement is a non sequitur
His first act as president was to issue an executive order ending certain price controls on domestic oil, which had contributed to the 1973 Oil Crisis and the 1979 Energy Crisis.[2][3] The price of oil subsequently dropped, and the 1980s did not see the gasoline lines and fuel shortages that the 1970s had.[3]
The price controls didn't cause OPEC to cut production, and the impact the price controls had was was unclear - higher prices on old production would not have increased production of oil oil, and new oil and imports was priced at market. And after the 1981 tax cut caused the 81 recession, the reduced demand for oil due to CAFE and switching away from oil for electricity was overtaken by the oil from North Seas, Alaska, the et al, so the price fell and the price controls would have had zero effect. Mulp ( talk) 04:30, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
there were a number of things that carter did as president intentionally to demystify the presidency...beach boys, blue jeans, etc. reagan worked hard to reverse that, with a particular wardrobe, and by changing angles for the cameras, etc. this really should be in this article. Kingturtle ( talk) 03:17, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
To a non-partisan, sufficiently experienced, well educated individual old enough to have lived through Ronald Reagan's presidency during their fully adult years, the introduction to this article is embarrassingly biased.
1) In the first paragraph: "After surviving an early assassination attempt, Reagan became the first U.S. president since Dwight D. Eisenhower to be re-elected and serve two complete terms in office." 1a) Though unintentional, this sentence makes an horrific insinuation, to wit.: If JFK had survived his assassination attempt, he most probably would have been re-elected. 1b) Lyndon Johnson both served in two presidential terms and was elected to an executive office, then re-elected. 1c) Because Richard Nixon was re-elected and Johnson served in two terms, a stretch is made to come-up with a seemingly significant statistic by adding two complete terms. 1d) Due to JFK's assassination, Johnson's terms and Nixon's re-election, the kernel of information upon which the stretched fact is built, that Reagan was re-elected, is fabulously mundane and certainly not worthy of being the defining sentence in the first paragraph of an encyclopedic article about an U.S. President.
Action: I have therefore removed this rather obtuse, arguably actually uninformative sentence.
Note: Should I discover that my considered edit has been respected and left unchanged, I shall continue attempting to "improve this article" via "cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards"; if, however, my edit isn't respect then I'll assume the article is controlled by a Reaganite and waste no further time or effort attempting to assist Wikipedia herein. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.87.230.113 ( talk) 23:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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The article states (supported by a ref) that Reagan was "the first serving U.S. President to survive being wounded in an assassination attempt." The main article linked to, Reagan assassination attempt, flat out contradicts that, stating (supported by a ref) "Reagan was not the first serving U.S. President to survive being shot in an assassination attempt. Theodore Roosevelt survived a shot to the chest during his Bull Moose Campaign in 1912."
Which is correct? Valenciano ( talk) 18:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hi. Where's the rest of the legislation that Reagan's two administrations did? For example, there's nothing about law enforcement. Who wrote this article? Where's the rest of it? Stevenmitchell ( talk) 14:13, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
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The "role in setting foreign policy" section is essentially a criticism section that relies on a collection of quotes from disgruntled staffers. I could make a similar section tearing down any 20th century president on any of these "presidency of" pages, but I strongly oppose the inclusion of any such section. These articles should focus first and foremost on covering what happened instead of getting bogged down in subjective evaluations of the president. While I'm not against adding criticism to presidency articles, I think it should be interspersed throughout the article (e.g. the Tower Commission criticism is already mentioned in the Iran-Contra scandal section) or discussed in the evaluation/legacy/historical reputation section. And when we do include criticism, we should countering viewpoints as well; it's not like every single one of Reagan's staffers thinks that Reagan was a disaster in setting foreign policy. Overall, this section is a poor addition to the article that sets a bad precedent. Orser67 ( talk) 16:55, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
The age and health section needs more sources. I have added inline tags to it accordingly. There is also a sentence that could be made clearer; I have added a tag there as well. SunCrow ( talk) 06:08, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Orser67, your explanation that the section "meandered a bit too much away from Reagan" doesn't quite make sense to me. If we are going to have a section entitled "Conservative shift in politics" (and your edit leaves it in), how is giving a in-depth background for the Reagan revolution "meandering"? Rja13ww33 ( talk) 16:50, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
The new section on environmental policy looks pretty good but has some issues. The first is no page number is cited for the sources....the second is: this appears to be a lot of opinion. Things are said like "Reagan frequently ignored science that was inconsistent with his political views on economic growth and industrial regulation; climate science was no different."
Something else I am noticing is: some of the facts are mixed up. The claim that Reagan removed the solar panels on the White House (saying that this symbolized the end of the "decade of the environment") is a problem on numerous levels. The first of which is: that's not what happened. True they were removed.....but it was years into his presidency (1986 to be precise), and it was done for the sake of repairs and was not deemed cost effective to put them back up.
The other thing here is: shouldn't there be some balance? One of the cited sources brings up the Reagan admin's leadership in agreeing to the Montreal Protocol. Yet this goes unmentioned.
Don't get me wrong, the section has potential......but it needs a serious overhaul. Rja13ww33 ( talk) 13:49, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
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Did Reagan say he was unaware of the entire Iran-Contra fiasco, or just the funding of the Contras? Trey Stone 01:04, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Changed the sentence in the header about the AIDS epidemic being ignored. The budget for AIDS research, treatment and prevention increased from $200,000 in FY 1981 (the last budget of the Carter administration), to more than $900 million in the Reagan administration's last budget (FY 1988, which closed on September 30, 1988). That can hardly be equated with "ignoring" the situation. Ellsworth 21:22, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Removed this sentence:
I would like to see this documented: as mentioned above, the AIDS research budget skyrocketed during the '80s and the CDC took the lead on the issue. Ellsworth 00:25, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
And also removed this sentence from para. about the Watkins commission:
Incorrect: see the report below. Funding for AIDS research, prevention and treatment increased every year during both the Reagan and the G.H.W. Bush administrations. Ellsworth 21:49, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Analysis of AIDS spending by Federal government (PDF document) Ellsworth
A couple of comments on this report: a) The report shows that AIDS funding doubled within 2 years after Reagan left office. b) Shouldn't funding be somewhat proportional to the number of AIDS cases, which ballooned even more under this administration? User: anon
I dropped these links about when Reagan mentioned AIDS: one was a policy address and the other was a press conference.
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1985/91785c.htm http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1986/20686c.htm
I'll find the sources again one of these days....
Ellsworth 02:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I got a reply "The links below should get you to these speeches. I should mention however, that the second link does not lead to either a speech or press conference. Rather, it was a message transmitted to Congress in a letter or report form."
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1985/91785c.htm http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1986/20686c.htm Brian Pearson 21:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
This Sullivan blog entry contains an unsourced quote from September 1985 by Reagan on AIDS funding. It'll do until I can run down a source. Ellsworth 20:54, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Now this one is down to - redirects to his Atlantic blog page. I'll find some perm. links eventually. The busted link: http://www.andrewsullivan.com/index.php?dish_inc=archives/2004_06_06_dish_archive.html#108667202656741224 Ellsworth 00:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
I see the NPOV section dispute, and agree in part, but could someone cite specifics? In the mean time I will try and remove some of the more tendentious phrases. Ellsworth 01:02, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
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Why is it that some presidents have two pages about them, one for the person in general and one for just the administration. See Ronald Reagan and Reagan Administration. The administration pages seem redundant as the information is mostly the same on both pages. I have also posted this on the Ronald Reagan talk page.
I came by this site searching for the term "reagan revolution", yet it is not defined in the text. Perhaps this should be added. 84.169.217.197 19:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
My apologies if no-one else regards this as significant. But upon reading the actual script of Reagan's 1982 address to the House of Commons (available at [1], I note that he announced his plan to leave "Marxism-Leninism on the ash heap of history", whereas this article suggests he wanted to committ the Soviet State (described using Reagan's terminology Evil Empire) to said ash heap.
Isn't the actual text much less provocative? I think the difference is worth noting. Hydeparkblvd ( talk) 19:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Perro asesino, ojala te estes pudriendo en el infierno. f. Los masacrados en el mozote. El Salvador —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.87.243.226 ( talk) 01:01, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Didn't Unemployment rise significantly during his first term in office? It doesn't seem to be mentioned in the article. In fact the whole article seems to find no fault in Reagan's period in office. I seem to recall he hit the poorest pretty bad. Setwisohi ( talk) 08:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Previously, I merged the content from Reagan administration scandals into the "Controversies" section of this article. Then I remembered WP:CRITICISM, and merged that section as rewritten, integrated text into Domestic policy of the Reagan administration, where they currently remain.
WP:MERGE states: "Merging is a normal editing action, something any editor can do, and as such does not need to be proposed and processed. If you think merging something improves the encyclopedia, you can be bold and perform the merge, as described below. Because of this, it makes little sense to object to a merge purely on procedural grounds, e.g. 'you cannot do that without discussion' is not a good argument." My actions were in good faith and I was bold and merged the pages because I found it to be a very big improvement to the encyclopedia. But, the merge has now been contested. Here's why I believe the merge should occur:
Again, I'll be the first to acknowledge that I look highly upon Ronald Reagan. As I think I've demonstrated before, though, I'm not above placing criticisms of him in his article or other places. But I'm not advocating the merge of this article to "sanitize" Reagan or anyone else; I'm doing it because of the reasons listed above. Thanks, Happyme22 ( talk) 03:16, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Whether the contents of Reagan administration scandals should be reworked and integrated into the text of Presidency of Ronald Reagan, Domestic policy of the Reagan administration, and Foreign policy of the Reagan administration.
Support Merge - I would support the merge based on WP:UNDUE if nothing else. As has been pointed out the major controversies already have dedicated pages which can be appropriately linked and summarized from within the pages identified above. Having a separate "scandals" page only serves to provide yet another place to rehash the same material thus making it WP:UNDUE. Summarize the material in the appropriate other pages for the Reagan presidency as has been done with other presidents and, for the truly large controversies, let them each have their own dedicated article so that the details can be brought forth there. There is no need for a redundant repository of this material. -- GoRight ( talk) 00:50, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Put it ALL out there. Even on the all of the other Presidents. Why are we so afraid to tell it like it was? Put the positives and the negatives of the Reagan admistration out for all to see. Don't try to clean up the man's term as President just because he has passed. TELL IT ALL !!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.54.1.206 ( talk) 17:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Queen Noor in her biography "Leap of Faith" (2003) recounts her late husband's meeting with Ronald Reagan in 1988 and mentions that King Hussein was surprised that Reagan could not sustain a simple conversation and did not understand his questions. She assumes that President Reagan was already sick by that time. (Paperback edition, page 279) Пипумбрик ( talk) 04:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
The article states: " This with some other "deregulation" policies ultimately led[citation needed] to the largest political and financial scandal in U.S. history: The Savings and Loan crisis. The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around USD$150 billion, about $125 billion of which was consequently and directly subsidized by the U.S. government, which contributed to the large budget deficits of the early 1990s.[citation needed] An indication of this scandal's size, Martin Mayer wrote at the time, "The theft from the taxpayer by the community that fattened on the growth of the savings and loan (S&L) industry in the 1980s is the worst public scandal in American history. Teapot Dome in the Harding administration and the Credit Mobilier in the times of Ulysses S. Grant have been taken as the ultimate horror stories of capitalist democracy gone to seed. Measuring by money, [or] by the misallocation of national resources...the S&L outrage makes Teapot Dome and Credit Mobilier seem minor episodes."[18] John Kenneth Galbraith called it "the largest and costliest venture in public misfeasance, malfeasance and larceny of all time."[19]"
First, I believe that it is very much a matter of opinion whether or not the Reagan Administration was responsible for the S&L crisis. If we are going to present a claim that the Reagan Administration was responsible it should be balanced with a contrary opinion unless there is an overwhelming consensus.
Second, any such claim should be backed by a cite. Note that nowhere in what I have excerpted is a cite for the link between the crisis and the Reagan Administration - this is pure unsourced opinion.
Finally, note that we have 2.5 paragraphs of this. Two of them are just talking about how bad the S&L crisis was without any link to the Reagan Administration. I think this is undue weight.
If this was not a high profile (and probably controversial page) I would just delete this but since I expect that there are still some people with strong emotions about Reagan I will wait for comments. Mike Friedman ( talk) 11:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
This statement is a non sequitur
His first act as president was to issue an executive order ending certain price controls on domestic oil, which had contributed to the 1973 Oil Crisis and the 1979 Energy Crisis.[2][3] The price of oil subsequently dropped, and the 1980s did not see the gasoline lines and fuel shortages that the 1970s had.[3]
The price controls didn't cause OPEC to cut production, and the impact the price controls had was was unclear - higher prices on old production would not have increased production of oil oil, and new oil and imports was priced at market. And after the 1981 tax cut caused the 81 recession, the reduced demand for oil due to CAFE and switching away from oil for electricity was overtaken by the oil from North Seas, Alaska, the et al, so the price fell and the price controls would have had zero effect. Mulp ( talk) 04:30, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
there were a number of things that carter did as president intentionally to demystify the presidency...beach boys, blue jeans, etc. reagan worked hard to reverse that, with a particular wardrobe, and by changing angles for the cameras, etc. this really should be in this article. Kingturtle ( talk) 03:17, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
To a non-partisan, sufficiently experienced, well educated individual old enough to have lived through Ronald Reagan's presidency during their fully adult years, the introduction to this article is embarrassingly biased.
1) In the first paragraph: "After surviving an early assassination attempt, Reagan became the first U.S. president since Dwight D. Eisenhower to be re-elected and serve two complete terms in office." 1a) Though unintentional, this sentence makes an horrific insinuation, to wit.: If JFK had survived his assassination attempt, he most probably would have been re-elected. 1b) Lyndon Johnson both served in two presidential terms and was elected to an executive office, then re-elected. 1c) Because Richard Nixon was re-elected and Johnson served in two terms, a stretch is made to come-up with a seemingly significant statistic by adding two complete terms. 1d) Due to JFK's assassination, Johnson's terms and Nixon's re-election, the kernel of information upon which the stretched fact is built, that Reagan was re-elected, is fabulously mundane and certainly not worthy of being the defining sentence in the first paragraph of an encyclopedic article about an U.S. President.
Action: I have therefore removed this rather obtuse, arguably actually uninformative sentence.
Note: Should I discover that my considered edit has been respected and left unchanged, I shall continue attempting to "improve this article" via "cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards"; if, however, my edit isn't respect then I'll assume the article is controlled by a Reaganite and waste no further time or effort attempting to assist Wikipedia herein. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.87.230.113 ( talk) 23:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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The article states (supported by a ref) that Reagan was "the first serving U.S. President to survive being wounded in an assassination attempt." The main article linked to, Reagan assassination attempt, flat out contradicts that, stating (supported by a ref) "Reagan was not the first serving U.S. President to survive being shot in an assassination attempt. Theodore Roosevelt survived a shot to the chest during his Bull Moose Campaign in 1912."
Which is correct? Valenciano ( talk) 18:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
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Hi. Where's the rest of the legislation that Reagan's two administrations did? For example, there's nothing about law enforcement. Who wrote this article? Where's the rest of it? Stevenmitchell ( talk) 14:13, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
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The "role in setting foreign policy" section is essentially a criticism section that relies on a collection of quotes from disgruntled staffers. I could make a similar section tearing down any 20th century president on any of these "presidency of" pages, but I strongly oppose the inclusion of any such section. These articles should focus first and foremost on covering what happened instead of getting bogged down in subjective evaluations of the president. While I'm not against adding criticism to presidency articles, I think it should be interspersed throughout the article (e.g. the Tower Commission criticism is already mentioned in the Iran-Contra scandal section) or discussed in the evaluation/legacy/historical reputation section. And when we do include criticism, we should countering viewpoints as well; it's not like every single one of Reagan's staffers thinks that Reagan was a disaster in setting foreign policy. Overall, this section is a poor addition to the article that sets a bad precedent. Orser67 ( talk) 16:55, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
The age and health section needs more sources. I have added inline tags to it accordingly. There is also a sentence that could be made clearer; I have added a tag there as well. SunCrow ( talk) 06:08, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Orser67, your explanation that the section "meandered a bit too much away from Reagan" doesn't quite make sense to me. If we are going to have a section entitled "Conservative shift in politics" (and your edit leaves it in), how is giving a in-depth background for the Reagan revolution "meandering"? Rja13ww33 ( talk) 16:50, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
The new section on environmental policy looks pretty good but has some issues. The first is no page number is cited for the sources....the second is: this appears to be a lot of opinion. Things are said like "Reagan frequently ignored science that was inconsistent with his political views on economic growth and industrial regulation; climate science was no different."
Something else I am noticing is: some of the facts are mixed up. The claim that Reagan removed the solar panels on the White House (saying that this symbolized the end of the "decade of the environment") is a problem on numerous levels. The first of which is: that's not what happened. True they were removed.....but it was years into his presidency (1986 to be precise), and it was done for the sake of repairs and was not deemed cost effective to put them back up.
The other thing here is: shouldn't there be some balance? One of the cited sources brings up the Reagan admin's leadership in agreeing to the Montreal Protocol. Yet this goes unmentioned.
Don't get me wrong, the section has potential......but it needs a serious overhaul. Rja13ww33 ( talk) 13:49, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
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