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The office of Ontario Premier did not replace that of the Prime Minister of the Province of Canada. Ontario did not exist until it was created in 1867. Did the office of Quebec premier also replace that of the Prime Minister of the Province of Canada? This was an entirely new creation, a federation. Upper Canada, Lower Canada, and the Province of Canada were unitary states. Ministers has responsibility for the whole of the Province of Canada (e.g. all public works) Canada is a federal state, and responsibilities were split (interprovincial railways and canals were federal; local railways were provincial and so on). Forget about the replacement or continuation idea. The Ontario of 1867 was a new creation and Oliver Mowat in particular soon showed John A. Macdonald that he would exercise far more power than Macdonald and many others could have imagined (see Ontario history articles).-- BrentS 4 July 2005 01:00 (UTC)
I'm just curious, can we add a piece describing the title as Prime Minister of Ontario? It was the official title of the Premier until the 1970's and while it has fallen into disuse it's still an official title. It goes a long with the MLA's for Ontario officially being called MPP's (Members of Provincial Parliament). It seems like an interesting historical side note. Celynn ( talk) 17:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I agree to add a section describing the title "Prime Minister of Ontario". I read in the 1968 plague of Highway 401 and found this title. It represents history of Ontario. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.179.253 ( talk) 18:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps we should follow the practice of the 7 other english province & 3 english territorial Premier articles & leave out the French version. For example: see Premier of Manitoba, Premier of Nova Scotia, Premier of Prince Edward Island, etc etc. GoodDay ( talk) 03:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
I have to agree with Aze. The french version should be removed. Either that or added to all provincial & territorial premier articles, under the fact that Englis & French are Canada's official languages. The latter argument was used for having french versions in the provicinal & territorial infobox headings. GoodDay ( talk) 04:56, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
In the old days, I would've pushed for the exclusion of the french version from all provincial & territorial premiers articles, based on this being English Language Wikipedia. However, I got enough bumps on the noggin, to not push that argument again :) GoodDay ( talk) 21:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
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The post should not just simply state that the premier is the "first minister of the crown". It does not speicifiy of which organization/state and there are many first ministers of the Crown. AtishT20 ( talk) 22:45, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Can we please change the description so that it is more specific and not general? AtishT20 ( talk) 18:11, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
May I suggest we change the lede? Like for the prime minister of Canada, it had to be changed as it stated the pm was the first minister of the Crown, which isn't specific enough. The start of the lede is too general as there are many first ministers of the Crown, not just one. I propose this:
The Premier of Ontario is the principal minister of the Crown of the Government of Ontario and head of the state's executive council." We can keep the rest the same. AtishT20 ( talk) 14:48, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
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The office of Ontario Premier did not replace that of the Prime Minister of the Province of Canada. Ontario did not exist until it was created in 1867. Did the office of Quebec premier also replace that of the Prime Minister of the Province of Canada? This was an entirely new creation, a federation. Upper Canada, Lower Canada, and the Province of Canada were unitary states. Ministers has responsibility for the whole of the Province of Canada (e.g. all public works) Canada is a federal state, and responsibilities were split (interprovincial railways and canals were federal; local railways were provincial and so on). Forget about the replacement or continuation idea. The Ontario of 1867 was a new creation and Oliver Mowat in particular soon showed John A. Macdonald that he would exercise far more power than Macdonald and many others could have imagined (see Ontario history articles).-- BrentS 4 July 2005 01:00 (UTC)
I'm just curious, can we add a piece describing the title as Prime Minister of Ontario? It was the official title of the Premier until the 1970's and while it has fallen into disuse it's still an official title. It goes a long with the MLA's for Ontario officially being called MPP's (Members of Provincial Parliament). It seems like an interesting historical side note. Celynn ( talk) 17:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I agree to add a section describing the title "Prime Minister of Ontario". I read in the 1968 plague of Highway 401 and found this title. It represents history of Ontario. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.179.253 ( talk) 18:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps we should follow the practice of the 7 other english province & 3 english territorial Premier articles & leave out the French version. For example: see Premier of Manitoba, Premier of Nova Scotia, Premier of Prince Edward Island, etc etc. GoodDay ( talk) 03:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
I have to agree with Aze. The french version should be removed. Either that or added to all provincial & territorial premier articles, under the fact that Englis & French are Canada's official languages. The latter argument was used for having french versions in the provicinal & territorial infobox headings. GoodDay ( talk) 04:56, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
In the old days, I would've pushed for the exclusion of the french version from all provincial & territorial premiers articles, based on this being English Language Wikipedia. However, I got enough bumps on the noggin, to not push that argument again :) GoodDay ( talk) 21:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
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The post should not just simply state that the premier is the "first minister of the crown". It does not speicifiy of which organization/state and there are many first ministers of the Crown. AtishT20 ( talk) 22:45, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Can we please change the description so that it is more specific and not general? AtishT20 ( talk) 18:11, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
May I suggest we change the lede? Like for the prime minister of Canada, it had to be changed as it stated the pm was the first minister of the Crown, which isn't specific enough. The start of the lede is too general as there are many first ministers of the Crown, not just one. I propose this:
The Premier of Ontario is the principal minister of the Crown of the Government of Ontario and head of the state's executive council." We can keep the rest the same. AtishT20 ( talk) 14:48, 30 April 2022 (UTC)