I think the article is intelligible enough to repair and keep. I'll try to take it on but my time is limited. -- cbdorsett ( talk) 05:59, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I support deletion. The article is generally unintelligible and of questionable accuracy. Regrettably, linguistic and factual repairs are likely to be reverted. Doremo ( talk) 11:54, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
There are no reliable references for Prekmurians being a separate ethnic group. Therefore, it is factually incorrect and biased to include the infobox and to describe them as such. This amounts to original research. I know there was a theory about the Prekmurje Slovenes being Vends and a separate ethnic group pushed forward before the World War II, but it was quickly forgotten. The inhabitants of Prekmurje always considered them Slovenes. Sources: [1], [2] etc.
The article title is also biased; as it doesn't include the word Slovenes, it makes the impression that the Slovene-speaking inhabitants of Prekmurje are a separate ethnic group. My proposal is to move the article to Prekmurje Slovenes, in accordance with the name of the article about the dialect they speak, the Prekmurje dialect. -- Eleassar my talk 13:06, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
The article is not POV, the MTA (Hungarian Scientific Academy) and the searchers: Smej, Novak, Zelko, Just, etc. also wrote about the Prekmurian identity. Doncsecz talk 13:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 18:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Prekmurians →
Prekmurje Slovenes — The title of the article is biased. As it doesn't include the word Slovenes, it makes the impression that the Slovene-speaking inhabitants of Prekmurje are a separate ethnic group. Which they are not, see above. My proposal is to move the article to
Prekmurje Slovenes, in accordance with the name of the article about the dialect they speak, the
Prekmurje dialect. --
Eleassar
my talk
00:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
This is not POV, this is flummery. The contributor of the Museum Murska Sobota Franc Kuzmic, the prize-winner writers Evald Flisar and Feri Lainscek, searcher Vilko Novak likewise deputize to the identity of Prekmurje. The Slovene civilians alike approve of the identity of Prekmurje. Altogheter the Politicians is hostile. Doncsecz talk 16:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Banat Bulgarians, Mexicans, Argentinians, Austrians, and other also have template of ethnic groups, but this is Spanish, German or Bulgarian peoples. Eleasar on end delete this template and Flisar's oppinion but Evald Flisar is avowed writer, likewise Feri Lainšček. Doncsecz talk 07:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
a 1921 source is actually reliable even in 2011? - This is absurd! The book Prekmurje 1921 from M. Slavic used also today, Franci Just among other from this book wrote his works about the Prekmurje. Slavic in this work respect the culture and language of Hungarian Slovenes, just as Anton Trstenjak and Bozidar Raic in the 19th century. Jesus Christ! This men was eminent politicians, writers and ethnographers. Doncsecz talk 15:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Has this article been translated by an online translator? I can't understand 90% of it! DeCausa ( talk) 17:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
I was ask for help, but temporarily are not. But i lay down, Doremo be out after the deletion of the article, as at all costs discriminate the language and the people of Prekmurje, however is apparent the state of affairs, that the Prekmurje is not dinkey country in Slovenia, but Dorem thumb his nose at the Prekmurje. Doncsecz talk 13:49, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
I was asked again elsewhere. I hope this time succeed. Doncsecz talk 16:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
I've tried to re-write this Article in English. However, I couldn't even guess at what three sections were supposed to mean so I left those and just left a clean-up template against them. While doing this I reorganized the order to make it more logical. It's still a very poor article though. DeCausa ( talk) 12:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
I re-wrote those three paragraphs, please check if it's intelligible now (I didn't want to remove the templates before a native English speaker checked the text). – Alensha talk 14:53, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
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I think the article is intelligible enough to repair and keep. I'll try to take it on but my time is limited. -- cbdorsett ( talk) 05:59, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I support deletion. The article is generally unintelligible and of questionable accuracy. Regrettably, linguistic and factual repairs are likely to be reverted. Doremo ( talk) 11:54, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
There are no reliable references for Prekmurians being a separate ethnic group. Therefore, it is factually incorrect and biased to include the infobox and to describe them as such. This amounts to original research. I know there was a theory about the Prekmurje Slovenes being Vends and a separate ethnic group pushed forward before the World War II, but it was quickly forgotten. The inhabitants of Prekmurje always considered them Slovenes. Sources: [1], [2] etc.
The article title is also biased; as it doesn't include the word Slovenes, it makes the impression that the Slovene-speaking inhabitants of Prekmurje are a separate ethnic group. My proposal is to move the article to Prekmurje Slovenes, in accordance with the name of the article about the dialect they speak, the Prekmurje dialect. -- Eleassar my talk 13:06, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
The article is not POV, the MTA (Hungarian Scientific Academy) and the searchers: Smej, Novak, Zelko, Just, etc. also wrote about the Prekmurian identity. Doncsecz talk 13:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 18:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Prekmurians →
Prekmurje Slovenes — The title of the article is biased. As it doesn't include the word Slovenes, it makes the impression that the Slovene-speaking inhabitants of Prekmurje are a separate ethnic group. Which they are not, see above. My proposal is to move the article to
Prekmurje Slovenes, in accordance with the name of the article about the dialect they speak, the
Prekmurje dialect. --
Eleassar
my talk
00:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
This is not POV, this is flummery. The contributor of the Museum Murska Sobota Franc Kuzmic, the prize-winner writers Evald Flisar and Feri Lainscek, searcher Vilko Novak likewise deputize to the identity of Prekmurje. The Slovene civilians alike approve of the identity of Prekmurje. Altogheter the Politicians is hostile. Doncsecz talk 16:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Banat Bulgarians, Mexicans, Argentinians, Austrians, and other also have template of ethnic groups, but this is Spanish, German or Bulgarian peoples. Eleasar on end delete this template and Flisar's oppinion but Evald Flisar is avowed writer, likewise Feri Lainšček. Doncsecz talk 07:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
a 1921 source is actually reliable even in 2011? - This is absurd! The book Prekmurje 1921 from M. Slavic used also today, Franci Just among other from this book wrote his works about the Prekmurje. Slavic in this work respect the culture and language of Hungarian Slovenes, just as Anton Trstenjak and Bozidar Raic in the 19th century. Jesus Christ! This men was eminent politicians, writers and ethnographers. Doncsecz talk 15:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Has this article been translated by an online translator? I can't understand 90% of it! DeCausa ( talk) 17:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
I was ask for help, but temporarily are not. But i lay down, Doremo be out after the deletion of the article, as at all costs discriminate the language and the people of Prekmurje, however is apparent the state of affairs, that the Prekmurje is not dinkey country in Slovenia, but Dorem thumb his nose at the Prekmurje. Doncsecz talk 13:49, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
I was asked again elsewhere. I hope this time succeed. Doncsecz talk 16:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
I've tried to re-write this Article in English. However, I couldn't even guess at what three sections were supposed to mean so I left those and just left a clean-up template against them. While doing this I reorganized the order to make it more logical. It's still a very poor article though. DeCausa ( talk) 12:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
I re-wrote those three paragraphs, please check if it's intelligible now (I didn't want to remove the templates before a native English speaker checked the text). – Alensha talk 14:53, 3 March 2011 (UTC)