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This Allahabad at a Glance Section in the page, shouldn't it be merged with the main Allahabad page? There seem to be several articles which have been turned into different pages internally linked to the main Allahabad page instead of being included in the Allahabad Page itself Hmmm its me 11:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC) IIIT - is also situated there.
On one of the maps the position of Allahabad is wrong (on the second map). Same in german Wikipedia. I agree. Allahabad is east of Kanpur.
What is the source of the population and geographic area data. AFAIK, the geographical info is quite outdated, going to 1960's. The city as expanded much so someone knowledgeable should update it.
Plus there was no Aryan invasion. Aryan is a title ..hence the article is politically wrong.
Postal code need not be there is the info box. a city has hundreds of postal region and there is no point in giving one of them. Same for the leader. There are more than one parliamentry seats in the city thus there are many MP's so why give a name of one (the most prestigious one). So I have deleted the details. Vivek 16:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC) ANIL KUMAR
Please stop vandalizing this page. I have put population data as per 2001 census report. Copy available here http://www.upgov.nic.in/upinfo/census01/cen01-7.htm I have copied the population density as well. The area of the district was written as ~69 sq.km. Are you kidding me? This is one of the biggest district in Uttar Pradesh and you are writing it's area as 69 sq.km. Check pages of other cities viz, Lucknow, Kanpur, Varanasi. You will note that I am adhering to the norms already set by other editors. Before you change those data, make a valid argument here and put your sources first. Vivek 11:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Postal areas are not divided according to administrative divisions. I've put more generic information rather than creating confusion. Yoursvivek Talk!! 19:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Even writing 211 xxx as postal code does not provide any useful information instead it should be written 211 001 as it is the postal code of Allahabad head post office from where all the posts are distributed to respective sub and branch post offices falling under Allahabad postal district. And postal code ranges for all the postal areas in Allahabad ranges between 211 001 and 211 016 (211 001 for Allahabad main post office in Civil lines area and 211 016 for GTB Nagar/Kareli postal areas). All the 16 postal areas are in Allahabad city limits. Rohit Saxena ( talk) 17:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I correct myself here..there is no postal area with code 211 015...but postal code range 211 001 to 211 019 falls under Allahabad city area (excluding 211 013- Phaphamau). This can be verified at http://www.indiapost.gov.in/test/Pinsearch.aspx by typing 211 as search string in the search box. Rohit Saxena ( talk) 17:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually, no. Jhusi Area has regions that are not counted in urban area but postal area distribution keeps it along with the rest. So, what is PINCODE ?
About keeping things under one post-office 211001 is also wrong because Allahabad Kutcherry HO is also a Head Office. So in all there are two Head Offices, Civil Lines and Kutcherry. So all things sum up that this is a better way of writing things. 210.212.55.3 ( talk) 14:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
But the sorting head post office is always one in a revenue district, and in case of Allahabad it is the one with 211001 PIN code. And first three digits no more belong to a single district and/or one district can not have two distinct first three digits, the best example of it is Agra and Firozabad districts. Agra has postal codes with 282 as well as 283 first three digits and all those postal areas are managed/controlled by the post office with 282 001 PIN code and Firozabad head post office has PIN code 283 001 and it doesn't control/manage all the postal areas which starts with 283, it only manages the areas which falls under the revenue district of Firozabad. Rohit Saxena ( talk) 11:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The main purpose of wikipedia is to provide information of use and by giving the information that the postal code range for Allahabad is 211 001 - 211 018 or main sorting post office is 211 001 it is clear that the city area is reachable through post by mentioning 211 001 PIN code and/or the postal code range mentioned lies within or very close to the city area. Rohit Saxena ( talk) 12:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The article's first line: "Allahabad (Hindi: इलाहाबाद; Urdu: الہ آباد Ilāhābād) is the English name of a city in the north Indian state of Uttar Pradesh." "The English name of a city"?!? And I thought I was on the English-language Wikipedia... If this is the result of a truncated edition, please correct it. If by any chance it is due to "toponymical nationalism", it clearly went too far. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.140.164.165 ( talk) 23:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
List is growing. I think we should make it a stub article and provide its link in "See Also" section. We should keep in mind that information being provided on page are accurate, complete and neutral in nature.
Fails B- criteria
"Allahabad or Prayagraj is a historian's paradise. History lies embedded everywhere, in its fields, forests and settlements." It's very subjective and does not read like with the proper encyclopedic tone. Article needs editing. 64.105.163.162 ( talk) 07:00, 21 July 2008 (UTC)philosopher2king
The original/ main Allahabad district, and the actual city of Allahabad is a lot more westwards, inside the Ganga Yamuna Doab, while in the map it is placed wrongly towards the south east. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.176.215 ( talk) 07:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I would like to bring to notice that in the second line of the article it has been claimed that Allahabad is the second oldest city of India. Is there any source for this claim if any please put among thee citations. The idea of oldest cities in itself is arguable thus is putting such a claim doing any good to the information we are providing through this page about thee city? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rairanjanrohit ( talk • contribs) 15:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
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I do not see how the list of "Malls and multiplexes" assists the article, and propose to delete it. Comments? -- Hoary ( talk) 03:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello all! User:25_Cents_FC has asked for help copyediting the article, so here I am. I made some changes just now and can do more. But I want to make sure I'm not making negative changes—I am fairly ignorant about Allahabad and about India in general. So let me know if anything I'm doing seems totally out of line.
Here are some thing that came up during my first go-through:
All-in-all, it's already a pretty good and comprehensive article!
love, groupuscule ( talk) 01:12, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
I hope this much helps.Though i wouldnt be able to reply your queries eternally.(I'm out of my place) Please ask other things you want Thank You. -- 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 10:18, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
situated in Allahabad High Court or situated in the premises of Allahabad High Court?????-- Adamstraw99 ( talk) 09:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Above the image in intro section, it is written "The City of Prime Ministers" but there is no further mention or clarification of this term in the entire article...... can Someone explain the use of this term on top please ?? -- Adamstraw99 ( talk) 09:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
not done...... kindly source this reference with the prime ministers' mention in the start of the article..... its not there anywhere...thanks--
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Finally I've done this..... If a city has this achievement then why shouldn't the world know this?-- Adamstraw99 ( talk) 03:05, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
I think the on the city's other name section its sufficient to mention only "city of prime ministers". 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 15:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Will nominate this article in next few days.Any suggestion,please leave a message -- 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 08:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Nominate for what??? deletion??? OH, why????????????????????????? don't do that-- Adamstraw99 ( talk) 02:14, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
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I'm sorry for the delay in getting my comments down "in print" here, I got delayed elsewhere in wikipedia. I've done a very quick read of the article and on that basis, I will not be "quick failing" this nomination. It appears to be at or about GA-level, but I've not checked any of the references/citations nor the copyright status of the images.
I'm now going to work my way through the article starting at the Etymology section, going thorough to the end and then returning to look at the WP:Lead. This will take a few days, but if everything go well this article could be a GA before the end of this week. We will have to see! Pyrotec ( talk) 20:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
....stopping for now. To be continued. Pyrotec ( talk) 20:44, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
...stopping for now. To be continued. Pyrotec ( talk) 16:48, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
At this point I'm putting the review On Hold so that these points can be addressed. Pyrotec ( talk) 12:24, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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I believe that the UP government's name change still needs central government approval and a gazette notification before it becomes official. From an article on the
renaming of Gurgaon: However, the proposal would now be forwarded to the Government of India for its approval and come into force only after a Gazette Notification.
See also:
West Bengal to Bangla. IOW, I don't believe it's official yet. In any event, editors who are going gung ho with renaming edits, please acquaint yourselves with
WP:COMMONNAME.—
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In Allahabad's case, the change isn't official just yet. States initiate the procedure to rename a city. The proposal is then sent to the Centre, which -- if it deems fit to do so -- approves and forwards it to the concerned state governor. The state government then issues a gazette notification renaming the city.Prayagraj is not official yet.— Cpt.a.haddock ( talk) (please ping when replying) 09:29, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
The central government has now approved Praygaraj as the official name. [1]-3 January 2019
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name of Allahbad is Changed today new name is PARAYAGRAJ Ankitthakker ( talk) 11:05, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello team wikipedia,after getting nod from governer Ram naik,Allahabad is now known as Prayagraj.kindly update the name of Allahabad to Prayagraj.Thank you Ankit Singh dhannu ( talk) 19:27, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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Allahabad is changed to Prayagraj so that you have also changed it here. 157.33.229.212 ( talk) 11:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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The name of Allahabad has been official changed to Prayagraj. Please do the same. 49.206.4.154 ( talk) 07:29, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Anyone who believes that the name has been changed and makes an "edit request" so that the title, etc, of this article will reflect the changed name must provide reliable evidence that the name has been changed. It isn't enough to supply unreliable evidence that it has been changed. It isn't enough to supply reliable evidence that the name will be changed, probably will be changed, or definitely is about to be changed. You need to supply reliable evidence for a change that has already been made. -- Hoary ( talk) 10:13, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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City of Allahabad has been renamed to its old and ancient name as Prayagraj by the state Government of Uttar Pradesh and Approved by Government of India, so i kindly please request to edit the names wherever applicable Abhishekushrivastav ( talk) 18:02, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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Hi All, as reported in the news media, The UP government, has changed the "official" name of Allahabad to "Prayagraj" but this does not mean we have to start a rename campaign to replace all the titles of Allahabad into Prayag. Wikipedia titles are based on WP:COMMONNAME and not just Official name. So the name that is widely used in media will be the title. Hence for now the article should remain at the title of Allahabad, and Prayagraj is a redirect to Allahabad. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 17:08, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
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for the time being. In addition, much akin to other things, I have changed the lede a bit to better reflect the division/district/city's change in name, apparently, even this much common sense is hard to find around these corners. Regards,
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19:20, 17 October 2018 (UTC); edited 19:37, 17 October 2018 (UTC).Copyediting. Updating. Removing non-notables. Adding Prayagraj. Edit conflict. Removed other names, feel free to add them back if you so please.offers no explanation as to why you've removed the section on languages from the infobox. Thanks.— Cpt.a.haddock ( talk) (please ping when replying) 21:23, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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CHANGE Allahbad to Prayagraj 171.61.136.171 ( talk) 16:11, 21 October 2018 (UTC) The name has recently changed
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Name of the city has got changed to Prayagraj but the article still shows name is Allahabad. Kapil.de6 ( talk) 12:22, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
(Here's yet another thread since the other one has been closed.) So, as others have noted, there was a PTI report stating that the governor, the representative of the central government, had approved the name change on Friday. However, an ANI report (correctly) notes that the notification restricts itself to the renaming of the district in particular. But a TOI report from earlier today notes that signage and letterheads are being updated with the city's new name. While the process has been irregular, I think it's done. Prayagraj is now Allahabad's official name. Consensus?— Cpt.a.haddock ( talk) (please ping when replying) 09:44, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Since Thomas.W has also voiced his support (in the thread below), I've gone ahead with the "official" edit. Congratulations, everyone :|— Cpt.a.haddock ( talk) (please ping when replying) 11:03, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Bias at its height
Few far too opinated users here seem to be hell bent on proving the official name as non official. First they needed reputed publications for proof it was given, then they created excuse of (allahabad.nic.in) of not changing the name but now even that has changed they have created filmsy excuse of notification from central government. Even after that they will probably ask for personal invitation from official government for proof. Then they will probably ask if goverment is legitimate as per their requirement. Enough with this official not official nonsense. The official government website (allahabad.nic.in/municipal-corporation-town-area/) has been changed to Prayagraj and that is enough proof too state in header that Pyagraj is official name. Some users are so hung up on WP:COMMONNAME that they refuse to believe official government statement and official website professing so. Prayagraj is official name whether people like it or not. And not writing it on wikipedia will not make it unofficial. Instead wikipedia is looking like joke when official government websites have already changed its name but few users here are so sure that it's not. JayB91 ( talk) 09:48, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
the Delhi police shall consist of such number in the several ranks and have such organisation and such powers, functions and duties as the Administrator may, by general or special order, determine;copied from the Act; all credit to the respective authors, whomsoever they may be.
"The government in a state is not empowered to rename a city, a village or a railway station. There is a procedure for the same. It can, of course, take a decision in this regard. But it is the Centre which has the final say in the matter.". - Tom | Thomas.W talk 11:29, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
User:DBigXray and Thomas.W I will requst you to see ( https://allahabad.nic.in) and ( https://allahabad.nic.in/municipal-corporation-town-area/) again which is directly under jurisdiction of National Informatics Centre, Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology, Government Of India. The arguement regarding notification is Irrelevant when the central government thorough NIC has declared it as Prayagraj on the website. Opposing such move is like declaring Government of India illegitimate JayB91 ( talk) 11:33, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
copied from the Code; all credit to the respective authors, whomsoever they may be.Chapter II
Revenue Divisions
5. Division of State into revenue areas. - For the purposes of this Code, [the State shall be divided into revenue areas comprising of divisions which may consist of two or more districts, and each district may consist of two or more Tahsils and each Tahsil may consist of one or more parganas, and each pargana may consist of two or more villages.]
6. Constitution of revenue areas. -
(1) The State Government may, by notification, specify -
(i) the districts which constitute a division;
(ii) the tahsils which constitute a district;
(iii) the villages which constitute a tahsil.
(2) The State Government may, by notification, alter the limits of any revenue area referred to in sub-section (1) by amalgamation, re-adjustment, division or in any other manner whatsoever, or abolish any such revenue area and may name and alter the name of any such revenue area, and in any case where any area is renamed, then all reference in any law or instrument or other document to the area under its original name shall be deemed to be references to the area as renamed unless expressly provided otherwise : Provided that before passing any order under this sub-section on any proposal to alter the limits of any revenue area, the State Government shall publish, in the prescribed manner, such proposals for inviting objections, and shall take into consideration any objections to such proposals.
(3) The Collector may, by an order, published in the prescribed manner, arrange the villages in a tahsil into Lekhpal circles and the Lekhpal circles into Revenue Inspector circles and specify also the headquarters of each Revenue Inspector within his Circle.
(4) The divisions, districts, tahsil, pargana, Revenue Inspector circles, Lekhpal circles and villages, as existing at the commencement of this Code shall, until altered under the preceding sub-sections, be deemed to be the revenue areas specified under this section.
Alas, the name change is accepted but I'm seriously concerned about Indian editors here who had to wait for some european editor's consensus/opinion for a change in an article involving Indian matters, those who only see what international media shows them about India and have little to no valid knowledge of local matters. Somehow it reminds me of colonial times.
I urge every Indian editor here to please be responsible and sane enough to take valid decisions the next time. I don't think Jimmy Wales started this so that one group of people should control what everyone does. Thank You. Wikiboy2364 ( talk) 14:36, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
I reverted a set of pending changes to this article, because taken as a whole they ignored this edit of mine and the long discussion in blue above, whereupon Pdp511 ( contributions) ignored the long discussion and made the changes.
Ignoring my edit? Well, I have a thick skin. I have an opinion on which name the article should be primarily using, but this opinion isn't particularly strong. I have a stronger opinion on the unilateral flouting of agreement. Comments? (Pdp511?) -- Hoary ( talk) 06:36, 1 November 2018 (UTC) slightly reworded Hoary ( talk) 22:39, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
The article tells us that Allahabad "is a metropolitan city". How does this differ from a "metropolis"?
(What with Sado and the like being dubbed "cities", I do realize that "city" has now been bleached of meaning.) -- Hoary ( talk) 22:39, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
There is no history for the name prayag.purana is epic stories not history,just election tactics.not official.so remove it from history page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.201.6.175 ( talk) 08:59, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
UP cabinet approves renaming of Faizabad as Ayodhya, Allahabad as Prayagraj. Here is the link. This is the name which would be used next many centuries. Can we now rename article name to Prayagraj? Kautuk1 ( talk) 11:38, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi there.The renaming has been made official in all government websites and offices here in India.Hence request the administrator to move the page to the title Prayagraj to avoid confusion and unnecessary conflicts with other users.The name Allahabad shall be used as a redirect to the newly formed page Prayagraj.Thanks -- Hari147 ( talk) 02:04, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
According to officials, the proposals to change the names of Allahabad to Prayagraj and Faizabad to Ayodhya are yet to be received by the ministry from the Uttar Pradesh government.So, even the official status still remains cloudy as the UP government appears to be playing fast and loose.— Cpt.a.haddock ( talk) (please ping when replying) 06:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
DBigXray, right, let me just elucidate on my points further.
All in all, I have been citing laws and stories [from reliable sources] which have been countered by you citing stories [from reliable sources], so, I don't think it's up to me [or you] to interpret this matter to its fullest. Let's wait till a well-read and neutral party (that is to say, a party that has not engaged in this discussion) has his or her say on the matter, shall we?
Good luck! Regards,
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Besides the Indian Express report I cited above, there's also a PTI report being syndicated by multiple papers which effectively states the same thing. Also of interest in the IE report:
The home ministry considers renaming proposals as per the laid down guidelines, this after consultations and consent from the Ministry of Railways, Department of Posts and Survey of India. The concerned ministries provide a no-objection confirming that no such town or village is named the same in the records.
Presumably, this also includes cities, districts, and such, and is at least one of the reasons why the change goes to the centre for approval. I have no idea what these "laid down guidelines" are and see nothing in the mha.nic.in website about it.—
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106.206.96.140 ( talk) 23:03, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
The ICAO ident for the airport has been changed quite some time ago from "VIAL" to "VEAB". All publications for this airport (e.g. Jeppesen charts) state VEAB as ICAO ident. The Airport location has changed from "Allahabad" to "Prayagraj" per NOTAM ID1121/18 from Indian Aviation Authorities. Please change ICAO ident accordingly. Thanks! 169.143.244.115 ( talk) 05:07, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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As per the new rule, it is "Prayagraj High Court" not "Allahabad High Court" and so on for other things. Everything has been renamed, why this article is so obsessed with the old Islamic name? Please update the article as soon as possible. The people talking about this issue above previously are so uneducated and ignorant of the fact that there is nothing left to force people to use "Allahabad". The job is done and the new name is Prayagraj, Wikipedia editors are no one to dictate rules to the Hindus and other Indians. talk —Preceding undated comment added 07:03, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
So, I was doing a bit of reading as I am planning to expand the article on the Government of Uttar Pradesh in the near future and incidentally finally found a mention of how sub-divisions are changed in an Act of Parliament of India; see: the Uttar Pradesh Reorganisation Act, 2000 ( PDF; p. 6), the Act's sixth section in its second part titled "Saving powers of State Governments" clearly states:
Nothing in the foregoing provisions of this Part shall be deemed to affect the power of the Government of Uttar Pradesh or Uttaranchal to alter, after the appointed day, the name, area or boundaries of any district or other territorial division in the State.
One can clearly infer from the above that the state governments act fully in their power when they change a district's name. Hence, this coupled with the Uttar Pradesh Revenue Code, 2006 passed by the Uttar Pradesh Legislative Assembly and the Uttar Pradesh Legislative Council, which I have already cited above, makes me think that the name change of Allahabad is fully official and the Government of Uttar Pradesh was not ultra vires when changing the name of Allahabad.
So, this made me search for 'Prayagraj' in Government of India notifications and just a minute or two in my research, I found this Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions notification as an example of the Government of India using 'Prayagraj': [22] (page 8).
I wanted to point to all this out as, if rumours are to believed, state governments are preparing to change names of a good-ton of cities and districts to 'Indianise' them, so far, I think I have heard rumours about Shimla, Ahmedabad, Hyderabad, Trichy et al. and as, unless the said pages are on my watchlist, will not indulge in discussions regarding the official name of said cities and/or districts, I would like to point this all so that there's some precedent at least regarding how names of second and third level sub-divisions are changed in India and how go about changing official names on Wikipedia articles. Regards, SshibumXZ ( talk · contribs). 13:18, 12 January 2019 (UTC); edited 13:19, 12 January 2019 (UTC).
"Confluence of the Ganga, Yamuna and Sarasvati rivers" might not be the best secular description of Prayag, because the Sarasvati river is invisible / dried up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.222.148.189 ( talk) 12:39, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Please change the name of the page as Prayagraj is now it's official name. Includents.h ( talk) 07:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Hmm so wait for it's station to be painted as Prayagraj and University Baord change to Prayagraj. at least 1 year then you can change it to Prayagraj as most people are speaking Prayagraj instead of Allahabad. Includents.h ( talk) 07:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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The entomology for Parayagraj has been found correctly and with source. I would like to undo the mistake.. let me edit. Source is at https://livehindustan.com/astrology/story-allahabad-named-prayagraj-know-its-meaning-and-astrology-importance-2224804.amp.html
Prayagraj means The land where first Yag was performed. Pra = first yag means ritual. and please post this entomology before the entomology for word Allahabad Includents.h ( talk) 10:04, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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ENGLISH AS AN OFFICAL LANGUAGE Base864 ( talk) 11:11, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Looks like Central Govt order was not necessary and a State Law was passed. I can't wrap my head around why it's taking so long to change title name. The last thing we want is Wikipedia being biased.
External News Source page with official Uttar Pradesh state govt circular transcripts.
This news source has transcripts of Official State Government circulars ordering for the new name. Wikiboy2364 ( talk) 17:30, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Now Allahabad is not present on earth. Please correct information give to all. Before 1664 Prayagraj Present and still present. Govt of India and Govt of UP announced that use of the Name Allahabad is fully illegal. Please correct it and check on https://india.gov.in and Govt of UP website S.P.Verma ( talk) 19:34, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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Please change the name from Allahabad to Prayagraj so that people can easily identify the name 103.5.135.102 ( talk) 06:35, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Transport section mentions "India's longest cable-stayed bridge, the New Yamuna Bridge (built 2001–04), is in Allahabad and connects the city to the suburb of Naini across the Yamuna." This information is wrong, Vidyasagar Setu in Kolkata currently holds the record for being the longest cable-stayed bridge in India. Yamuna bridge stands at 3rd position. Refer Wikipedia article: List of bridges in India Correction is required. @ DBigXray: if you can do so. AutoRectify ( talk) 12:43, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
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Change "Allahabad officially known as Prayagraj" to "Prayagraj formerly known as Allahabad" 203.110.242.25 ( talk) 05:10, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
If the same rules are to be applied to all Wikipedia articles then why was the change of name for the Capital of Kazakhstan possible but not for Prayagraj?
When you type "Allahabad" on Google Maps, it sends you to Prayagraj [1]
The official website of the district is called "Prayagraj District" by the state government. [2]
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There is no city by the name of Allahabad. Its name has been formally changed to Prayag. Therefore, the page should be renamed to Prayag and Allahabad should direct to this page. Deepakkosmos ( talk) 09:00, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
"Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's 'official' name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)."‑‑ ElHef ( Meep?) 14:08, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Google Map now identifies only Prayagraj even when you type in Allahabad. [3] Manish2542 ( talk) 12:22, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
It is strange that every Hindi News channel of Uttar Pradesh and National News Channels of India refers to Prayagraj as Prayagraj.. If you have access to Indian Television Channels go and watch.. and My grandmother today went to Prayagraj for the holy mela of Kumbh she also referred to it as Prayag.. I think its main name should be Prayagraj and then Allahabad in brackets. I am saying on the basic of facts.
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The name of this city has officially been changed. So, I was wondering why the title of the article is the old name of the city. I would like a scholar to make appropriate changes to the article. Thanks Vshl33 ( talk) 02:36, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Just curious, but why is the text of Talk:Allahabad/Archive 1 blue? DeluxeVegan ( talk) 06:56, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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The official name was changed, all modern maps use the new name, and most Indian media uses the new name. By requiring that western media use the new name for it to be considered for a wiki name change, you are denying an entire country its autonomy. Is the Indian government beholden to US media? No? Then they have no control over the name. Don't try to use the language argument either, as most Indian media in the English language uses the new name. Besides, is Wikipedia a website for everyone, or only Americans? I was under the impression that Wikipedia was intended to be a knowledge database, an encyclopedia, that would cater to anyone looking for information, without political or national bias. This includes Indians. I think the resistance to this change is based on many wikipedia users holding a western-centric viewpoint that ignores the stance of everyone else, and that's not desirable if this website is intended to be used by everyone. I don't meant any disrespect to anyone but I will call out bias where I see it. Thank you for your time. -- Usernamehere1234 ( talk) 22:41, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
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Collapsing. The OP is an WP:SPA who apparently registered solely in order to leave this, their only contribution to Wikipedia. Mathglot ( talk) 04:59, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
In the last stable (Sept 30 2019) version of this article, the following is odd (paragraph breaks removed for compactness here), "The Puranas record that Yayati left Allahabad and conquered the region of Saptha Sindhu.[41] His five sons (Yadu, Druhyu, Puru, Anu and Turvashu) founded the main tribes of the Rigveda.[42] Lord Rama, the protagonist of the Ramayana, spent time at the Ashram of Sage Bharadwaj before travelling to nearby Chitrakoot.[43] When people first settled in what they called the Āryāvarta (or Madhyadesha), Allahabad (then Kaushambi) was an important part of their territory.[44] The Kurus, rulers of Hastinapur (near present-day Delhi), established the town of Kaushambi near Allahabad.[45] They shifted their capital to Kaushambi when Hastinapur was destroyed by floods.[44] The Doab region, which includes Allahabad, was controlled by a succession of empires and dynasties.[46] The area became part of the Maurya and Gupta Empires from the east and the Kushan Empire from the west before being governed by Kannauj during the 15th century.[44] The city was the site of Maratha incursions before India was colonised.[46]"
It is odd, in part because the relevance to the topic is unclear / tangential. The sourcing is weak too, and some references such as [44] above (Smith) state the opposite of what our article states. Smith, on page 169 (second para), is clearly saying Kanauj and Prayag were different places. Suggest trimming/rewriting this part from this GA-level article. I await comments/objections. Ms Sarah Welch ( talk) 15:49, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
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This Allahabad at a Glance Section in the page, shouldn't it be merged with the main Allahabad page? There seem to be several articles which have been turned into different pages internally linked to the main Allahabad page instead of being included in the Allahabad Page itself Hmmm its me 11:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC) IIIT - is also situated there.
On one of the maps the position of Allahabad is wrong (on the second map). Same in german Wikipedia. I agree. Allahabad is east of Kanpur.
What is the source of the population and geographic area data. AFAIK, the geographical info is quite outdated, going to 1960's. The city as expanded much so someone knowledgeable should update it.
Plus there was no Aryan invasion. Aryan is a title ..hence the article is politically wrong.
Postal code need not be there is the info box. a city has hundreds of postal region and there is no point in giving one of them. Same for the leader. There are more than one parliamentry seats in the city thus there are many MP's so why give a name of one (the most prestigious one). So I have deleted the details. Vivek 16:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC) ANIL KUMAR
Please stop vandalizing this page. I have put population data as per 2001 census report. Copy available here http://www.upgov.nic.in/upinfo/census01/cen01-7.htm I have copied the population density as well. The area of the district was written as ~69 sq.km. Are you kidding me? This is one of the biggest district in Uttar Pradesh and you are writing it's area as 69 sq.km. Check pages of other cities viz, Lucknow, Kanpur, Varanasi. You will note that I am adhering to the norms already set by other editors. Before you change those data, make a valid argument here and put your sources first. Vivek 11:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Postal areas are not divided according to administrative divisions. I've put more generic information rather than creating confusion. Yoursvivek Talk!! 19:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Even writing 211 xxx as postal code does not provide any useful information instead it should be written 211 001 as it is the postal code of Allahabad head post office from where all the posts are distributed to respective sub and branch post offices falling under Allahabad postal district. And postal code ranges for all the postal areas in Allahabad ranges between 211 001 and 211 016 (211 001 for Allahabad main post office in Civil lines area and 211 016 for GTB Nagar/Kareli postal areas). All the 16 postal areas are in Allahabad city limits. Rohit Saxena ( talk) 17:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I correct myself here..there is no postal area with code 211 015...but postal code range 211 001 to 211 019 falls under Allahabad city area (excluding 211 013- Phaphamau). This can be verified at http://www.indiapost.gov.in/test/Pinsearch.aspx by typing 211 as search string in the search box. Rohit Saxena ( talk) 17:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually, no. Jhusi Area has regions that are not counted in urban area but postal area distribution keeps it along with the rest. So, what is PINCODE ?
About keeping things under one post-office 211001 is also wrong because Allahabad Kutcherry HO is also a Head Office. So in all there are two Head Offices, Civil Lines and Kutcherry. So all things sum up that this is a better way of writing things. 210.212.55.3 ( talk) 14:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
But the sorting head post office is always one in a revenue district, and in case of Allahabad it is the one with 211001 PIN code. And first three digits no more belong to a single district and/or one district can not have two distinct first three digits, the best example of it is Agra and Firozabad districts. Agra has postal codes with 282 as well as 283 first three digits and all those postal areas are managed/controlled by the post office with 282 001 PIN code and Firozabad head post office has PIN code 283 001 and it doesn't control/manage all the postal areas which starts with 283, it only manages the areas which falls under the revenue district of Firozabad. Rohit Saxena ( talk) 11:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The main purpose of wikipedia is to provide information of use and by giving the information that the postal code range for Allahabad is 211 001 - 211 018 or main sorting post office is 211 001 it is clear that the city area is reachable through post by mentioning 211 001 PIN code and/or the postal code range mentioned lies within or very close to the city area. Rohit Saxena ( talk) 12:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The article's first line: "Allahabad (Hindi: इलाहाबाद; Urdu: الہ آباد Ilāhābād) is the English name of a city in the north Indian state of Uttar Pradesh." "The English name of a city"?!? And I thought I was on the English-language Wikipedia... If this is the result of a truncated edition, please correct it. If by any chance it is due to "toponymical nationalism", it clearly went too far. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.140.164.165 ( talk) 23:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
List is growing. I think we should make it a stub article and provide its link in "See Also" section. We should keep in mind that information being provided on page are accurate, complete and neutral in nature.
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"Allahabad or Prayagraj is a historian's paradise. History lies embedded everywhere, in its fields, forests and settlements." It's very subjective and does not read like with the proper encyclopedic tone. Article needs editing. 64.105.163.162 ( talk) 07:00, 21 July 2008 (UTC)philosopher2king
The original/ main Allahabad district, and the actual city of Allahabad is a lot more westwards, inside the Ganga Yamuna Doab, while in the map it is placed wrongly towards the south east. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.176.215 ( talk) 07:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I would like to bring to notice that in the second line of the article it has been claimed that Allahabad is the second oldest city of India. Is there any source for this claim if any please put among thee citations. The idea of oldest cities in itself is arguable thus is putting such a claim doing any good to the information we are providing through this page about thee city? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rairanjanrohit ( talk • contribs) 15:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
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I do not see how the list of "Malls and multiplexes" assists the article, and propose to delete it. Comments? -- Hoary ( talk) 03:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello all! User:25_Cents_FC has asked for help copyediting the article, so here I am. I made some changes just now and can do more. But I want to make sure I'm not making negative changes—I am fairly ignorant about Allahabad and about India in general. So let me know if anything I'm doing seems totally out of line.
Here are some thing that came up during my first go-through:
All-in-all, it's already a pretty good and comprehensive article!
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I hope this much helps.Though i wouldnt be able to reply your queries eternally.(I'm out of my place) Please ask other things you want Thank You. -- 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 10:18, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
situated in Allahabad High Court or situated in the premises of Allahabad High Court?????-- Adamstraw99 ( talk) 09:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Above the image in intro section, it is written "The City of Prime Ministers" but there is no further mention or clarification of this term in the entire article...... can Someone explain the use of this term on top please ?? -- Adamstraw99 ( talk) 09:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
not done...... kindly source this reference with the prime ministers' mention in the start of the article..... its not there anywhere...thanks--
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Finally I've done this..... If a city has this achievement then why shouldn't the world know this?-- Adamstraw99 ( talk) 03:05, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
I think the on the city's other name section its sufficient to mention only "city of prime ministers". 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 15:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Will nominate this article in next few days.Any suggestion,please leave a message -- 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 08:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Nominate for what??? deletion??? OH, why????????????????????????? don't do that-- Adamstraw99 ( talk) 02:14, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
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I'm sorry for the delay in getting my comments down "in print" here, I got delayed elsewhere in wikipedia. I've done a very quick read of the article and on that basis, I will not be "quick failing" this nomination. It appears to be at or about GA-level, but I've not checked any of the references/citations nor the copyright status of the images.
I'm now going to work my way through the article starting at the Etymology section, going thorough to the end and then returning to look at the WP:Lead. This will take a few days, but if everything go well this article could be a GA before the end of this week. We will have to see! Pyrotec ( talk) 20:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
....stopping for now. To be continued. Pyrotec ( talk) 20:44, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
...stopping for now. To be continued. Pyrotec ( talk) 16:48, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
At this point I'm putting the review On Hold so that these points can be addressed. Pyrotec ( talk) 12:24, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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I believe that the UP government's name change still needs central government approval and a gazette notification before it becomes official. From an article on the
renaming of Gurgaon: However, the proposal would now be forwarded to the Government of India for its approval and come into force only after a Gazette Notification.
See also:
West Bengal to Bangla. IOW, I don't believe it's official yet. In any event, editors who are going gung ho with renaming edits, please acquaint yourselves with
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In Allahabad's case, the change isn't official just yet. States initiate the procedure to rename a city. The proposal is then sent to the Centre, which -- if it deems fit to do so -- approves and forwards it to the concerned state governor. The state government then issues a gazette notification renaming the city.Prayagraj is not official yet.— Cpt.a.haddock ( talk) (please ping when replying) 09:29, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
The central government has now approved Praygaraj as the official name. [1]-3 January 2019
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name of Allahbad is Changed today new name is PARAYAGRAJ Ankitthakker ( talk) 11:05, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello team wikipedia,after getting nod from governer Ram naik,Allahabad is now known as Prayagraj.kindly update the name of Allahabad to Prayagraj.Thank you Ankit Singh dhannu ( talk) 19:27, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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Allahabad is changed to Prayagraj so that you have also changed it here. 157.33.229.212 ( talk) 11:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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The name of Allahabad has been official changed to Prayagraj. Please do the same. 49.206.4.154 ( talk) 07:29, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Anyone who believes that the name has been changed and makes an "edit request" so that the title, etc, of this article will reflect the changed name must provide reliable evidence that the name has been changed. It isn't enough to supply unreliable evidence that it has been changed. It isn't enough to supply reliable evidence that the name will be changed, probably will be changed, or definitely is about to be changed. You need to supply reliable evidence for a change that has already been made. -- Hoary ( talk) 10:13, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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City of Allahabad has been renamed to its old and ancient name as Prayagraj by the state Government of Uttar Pradesh and Approved by Government of India, so i kindly please request to edit the names wherever applicable Abhishekushrivastav ( talk) 18:02, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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Hi All, as reported in the news media, The UP government, has changed the "official" name of Allahabad to "Prayagraj" but this does not mean we have to start a rename campaign to replace all the titles of Allahabad into Prayag. Wikipedia titles are based on WP:COMMONNAME and not just Official name. So the name that is widely used in media will be the title. Hence for now the article should remain at the title of Allahabad, and Prayagraj is a redirect to Allahabad. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 17:08, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
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CHANGE Allahbad to Prayagraj 171.61.136.171 ( talk) 16:11, 21 October 2018 (UTC) The name has recently changed
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Name of the city has got changed to Prayagraj but the article still shows name is Allahabad. Kapil.de6 ( talk) 12:22, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
(Here's yet another thread since the other one has been closed.) So, as others have noted, there was a PTI report stating that the governor, the representative of the central government, had approved the name change on Friday. However, an ANI report (correctly) notes that the notification restricts itself to the renaming of the district in particular. But a TOI report from earlier today notes that signage and letterheads are being updated with the city's new name. While the process has been irregular, I think it's done. Prayagraj is now Allahabad's official name. Consensus?— Cpt.a.haddock ( talk) (please ping when replying) 09:44, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Since Thomas.W has also voiced his support (in the thread below), I've gone ahead with the "official" edit. Congratulations, everyone :|— Cpt.a.haddock ( talk) (please ping when replying) 11:03, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Bias at its height
Few far too opinated users here seem to be hell bent on proving the official name as non official. First they needed reputed publications for proof it was given, then they created excuse of (allahabad.nic.in) of not changing the name but now even that has changed they have created filmsy excuse of notification from central government. Even after that they will probably ask for personal invitation from official government for proof. Then they will probably ask if goverment is legitimate as per their requirement. Enough with this official not official nonsense. The official government website (allahabad.nic.in/municipal-corporation-town-area/) has been changed to Prayagraj and that is enough proof too state in header that Pyagraj is official name. Some users are so hung up on WP:COMMONNAME that they refuse to believe official government statement and official website professing so. Prayagraj is official name whether people like it or not. And not writing it on wikipedia will not make it unofficial. Instead wikipedia is looking like joke when official government websites have already changed its name but few users here are so sure that it's not. JayB91 ( talk) 09:48, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
the Delhi police shall consist of such number in the several ranks and have such organisation and such powers, functions and duties as the Administrator may, by general or special order, determine;copied from the Act; all credit to the respective authors, whomsoever they may be.
"The government in a state is not empowered to rename a city, a village or a railway station. There is a procedure for the same. It can, of course, take a decision in this regard. But it is the Centre which has the final say in the matter.". - Tom | Thomas.W talk 11:29, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
User:DBigXray and Thomas.W I will requst you to see ( https://allahabad.nic.in) and ( https://allahabad.nic.in/municipal-corporation-town-area/) again which is directly under jurisdiction of National Informatics Centre, Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology, Government Of India. The arguement regarding notification is Irrelevant when the central government thorough NIC has declared it as Prayagraj on the website. Opposing such move is like declaring Government of India illegitimate JayB91 ( talk) 11:33, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
copied from the Code; all credit to the respective authors, whomsoever they may be.Chapter II
Revenue Divisions
5. Division of State into revenue areas. - For the purposes of this Code, [the State shall be divided into revenue areas comprising of divisions which may consist of two or more districts, and each district may consist of two or more Tahsils and each Tahsil may consist of one or more parganas, and each pargana may consist of two or more villages.]
6. Constitution of revenue areas. -
(1) The State Government may, by notification, specify -
(i) the districts which constitute a division;
(ii) the tahsils which constitute a district;
(iii) the villages which constitute a tahsil.
(2) The State Government may, by notification, alter the limits of any revenue area referred to in sub-section (1) by amalgamation, re-adjustment, division or in any other manner whatsoever, or abolish any such revenue area and may name and alter the name of any such revenue area, and in any case where any area is renamed, then all reference in any law or instrument or other document to the area under its original name shall be deemed to be references to the area as renamed unless expressly provided otherwise : Provided that before passing any order under this sub-section on any proposal to alter the limits of any revenue area, the State Government shall publish, in the prescribed manner, such proposals for inviting objections, and shall take into consideration any objections to such proposals.
(3) The Collector may, by an order, published in the prescribed manner, arrange the villages in a tahsil into Lekhpal circles and the Lekhpal circles into Revenue Inspector circles and specify also the headquarters of each Revenue Inspector within his Circle.
(4) The divisions, districts, tahsil, pargana, Revenue Inspector circles, Lekhpal circles and villages, as existing at the commencement of this Code shall, until altered under the preceding sub-sections, be deemed to be the revenue areas specified under this section.
Alas, the name change is accepted but I'm seriously concerned about Indian editors here who had to wait for some european editor's consensus/opinion for a change in an article involving Indian matters, those who only see what international media shows them about India and have little to no valid knowledge of local matters. Somehow it reminds me of colonial times.
I urge every Indian editor here to please be responsible and sane enough to take valid decisions the next time. I don't think Jimmy Wales started this so that one group of people should control what everyone does. Thank You. Wikiboy2364 ( talk) 14:36, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
I reverted a set of pending changes to this article, because taken as a whole they ignored this edit of mine and the long discussion in blue above, whereupon Pdp511 ( contributions) ignored the long discussion and made the changes.
Ignoring my edit? Well, I have a thick skin. I have an opinion on which name the article should be primarily using, but this opinion isn't particularly strong. I have a stronger opinion on the unilateral flouting of agreement. Comments? (Pdp511?) -- Hoary ( talk) 06:36, 1 November 2018 (UTC) slightly reworded Hoary ( talk) 22:39, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
The article tells us that Allahabad "is a metropolitan city". How does this differ from a "metropolis"?
(What with Sado and the like being dubbed "cities", I do realize that "city" has now been bleached of meaning.) -- Hoary ( talk) 22:39, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
There is no history for the name prayag.purana is epic stories not history,just election tactics.not official.so remove it from history page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.201.6.175 ( talk) 08:59, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
UP cabinet approves renaming of Faizabad as Ayodhya, Allahabad as Prayagraj. Here is the link. This is the name which would be used next many centuries. Can we now rename article name to Prayagraj? Kautuk1 ( talk) 11:38, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi there.The renaming has been made official in all government websites and offices here in India.Hence request the administrator to move the page to the title Prayagraj to avoid confusion and unnecessary conflicts with other users.The name Allahabad shall be used as a redirect to the newly formed page Prayagraj.Thanks -- Hari147 ( talk) 02:04, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
According to officials, the proposals to change the names of Allahabad to Prayagraj and Faizabad to Ayodhya are yet to be received by the ministry from the Uttar Pradesh government.So, even the official status still remains cloudy as the UP government appears to be playing fast and loose.— Cpt.a.haddock ( talk) (please ping when replying) 06:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
DBigXray, right, let me just elucidate on my points further.
All in all, I have been citing laws and stories [from reliable sources] which have been countered by you citing stories [from reliable sources], so, I don't think it's up to me [or you] to interpret this matter to its fullest. Let's wait till a well-read and neutral party (that is to say, a party that has not engaged in this discussion) has his or her say on the matter, shall we?
Good luck! Regards,
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Besides the Indian Express report I cited above, there's also a PTI report being syndicated by multiple papers which effectively states the same thing. Also of interest in the IE report:
The home ministry considers renaming proposals as per the laid down guidelines, this after consultations and consent from the Ministry of Railways, Department of Posts and Survey of India. The concerned ministries provide a no-objection confirming that no such town or village is named the same in the records.
Presumably, this also includes cities, districts, and such, and is at least one of the reasons why the change goes to the centre for approval. I have no idea what these "laid down guidelines" are and see nothing in the mha.nic.in website about it.—
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The ICAO ident for the airport has been changed quite some time ago from "VIAL" to "VEAB". All publications for this airport (e.g. Jeppesen charts) state VEAB as ICAO ident. The Airport location has changed from "Allahabad" to "Prayagraj" per NOTAM ID1121/18 from Indian Aviation Authorities. Please change ICAO ident accordingly. Thanks! 169.143.244.115 ( talk) 05:07, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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As per the new rule, it is "Prayagraj High Court" not "Allahabad High Court" and so on for other things. Everything has been renamed, why this article is so obsessed with the old Islamic name? Please update the article as soon as possible. The people talking about this issue above previously are so uneducated and ignorant of the fact that there is nothing left to force people to use "Allahabad". The job is done and the new name is Prayagraj, Wikipedia editors are no one to dictate rules to the Hindus and other Indians. talk —Preceding undated comment added 07:03, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
So, I was doing a bit of reading as I am planning to expand the article on the Government of Uttar Pradesh in the near future and incidentally finally found a mention of how sub-divisions are changed in an Act of Parliament of India; see: the Uttar Pradesh Reorganisation Act, 2000 ( PDF; p. 6), the Act's sixth section in its second part titled "Saving powers of State Governments" clearly states:
Nothing in the foregoing provisions of this Part shall be deemed to affect the power of the Government of Uttar Pradesh or Uttaranchal to alter, after the appointed day, the name, area or boundaries of any district or other territorial division in the State.
One can clearly infer from the above that the state governments act fully in their power when they change a district's name. Hence, this coupled with the Uttar Pradesh Revenue Code, 2006 passed by the Uttar Pradesh Legislative Assembly and the Uttar Pradesh Legislative Council, which I have already cited above, makes me think that the name change of Allahabad is fully official and the Government of Uttar Pradesh was not ultra vires when changing the name of Allahabad.
So, this made me search for 'Prayagraj' in Government of India notifications and just a minute or two in my research, I found this Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions notification as an example of the Government of India using 'Prayagraj': [22] (page 8).
I wanted to point to all this out as, if rumours are to believed, state governments are preparing to change names of a good-ton of cities and districts to 'Indianise' them, so far, I think I have heard rumours about Shimla, Ahmedabad, Hyderabad, Trichy et al. and as, unless the said pages are on my watchlist, will not indulge in discussions regarding the official name of said cities and/or districts, I would like to point this all so that there's some precedent at least regarding how names of second and third level sub-divisions are changed in India and how go about changing official names on Wikipedia articles. Regards, SshibumXZ ( talk · contribs). 13:18, 12 January 2019 (UTC); edited 13:19, 12 January 2019 (UTC).
"Confluence of the Ganga, Yamuna and Sarasvati rivers" might not be the best secular description of Prayag, because the Sarasvati river is invisible / dried up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.222.148.189 ( talk) 12:39, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Please change the name of the page as Prayagraj is now it's official name. Includents.h ( talk) 07:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Hmm so wait for it's station to be painted as Prayagraj and University Baord change to Prayagraj. at least 1 year then you can change it to Prayagraj as most people are speaking Prayagraj instead of Allahabad. Includents.h ( talk) 07:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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The entomology for Parayagraj has been found correctly and with source. I would like to undo the mistake.. let me edit. Source is at https://livehindustan.com/astrology/story-allahabad-named-prayagraj-know-its-meaning-and-astrology-importance-2224804.amp.html
Prayagraj means The land where first Yag was performed. Pra = first yag means ritual. and please post this entomology before the entomology for word Allahabad Includents.h ( talk) 10:04, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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ENGLISH AS AN OFFICAL LANGUAGE Base864 ( talk) 11:11, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Looks like Central Govt order was not necessary and a State Law was passed. I can't wrap my head around why it's taking so long to change title name. The last thing we want is Wikipedia being biased.
External News Source page with official Uttar Pradesh state govt circular transcripts.
This news source has transcripts of Official State Government circulars ordering for the new name. Wikiboy2364 ( talk) 17:30, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Now Allahabad is not present on earth. Please correct information give to all. Before 1664 Prayagraj Present and still present. Govt of India and Govt of UP announced that use of the Name Allahabad is fully illegal. Please correct it and check on https://india.gov.in and Govt of UP website S.P.Verma ( talk) 19:34, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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Please change the name from Allahabad to Prayagraj so that people can easily identify the name 103.5.135.102 ( talk) 06:35, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Transport section mentions "India's longest cable-stayed bridge, the New Yamuna Bridge (built 2001–04), is in Allahabad and connects the city to the suburb of Naini across the Yamuna." This information is wrong, Vidyasagar Setu in Kolkata currently holds the record for being the longest cable-stayed bridge in India. Yamuna bridge stands at 3rd position. Refer Wikipedia article: List of bridges in India Correction is required. @ DBigXray: if you can do so. AutoRectify ( talk) 12:43, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
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Change "Allahabad officially known as Prayagraj" to "Prayagraj formerly known as Allahabad" 203.110.242.25 ( talk) 05:10, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
If the same rules are to be applied to all Wikipedia articles then why was the change of name for the Capital of Kazakhstan possible but not for Prayagraj?
When you type "Allahabad" on Google Maps, it sends you to Prayagraj [1]
The official website of the district is called "Prayagraj District" by the state government. [2]
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There is no city by the name of Allahabad. Its name has been formally changed to Prayag. Therefore, the page should be renamed to Prayag and Allahabad should direct to this page. Deepakkosmos ( talk) 09:00, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
"Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's 'official' name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)."‑‑ ElHef ( Meep?) 14:08, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Google Map now identifies only Prayagraj even when you type in Allahabad. [3] Manish2542 ( talk) 12:22, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
It is strange that every Hindi News channel of Uttar Pradesh and National News Channels of India refers to Prayagraj as Prayagraj.. If you have access to Indian Television Channels go and watch.. and My grandmother today went to Prayagraj for the holy mela of Kumbh she also referred to it as Prayag.. I think its main name should be Prayagraj and then Allahabad in brackets. I am saying on the basic of facts.
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The name of this city has officially been changed. So, I was wondering why the title of the article is the old name of the city. I would like a scholar to make appropriate changes to the article. Thanks Vshl33 ( talk) 02:36, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Just curious, but why is the text of Talk:Allahabad/Archive 1 blue? DeluxeVegan ( talk) 06:56, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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The official name was changed, all modern maps use the new name, and most Indian media uses the new name. By requiring that western media use the new name for it to be considered for a wiki name change, you are denying an entire country its autonomy. Is the Indian government beholden to US media? No? Then they have no control over the name. Don't try to use the language argument either, as most Indian media in the English language uses the new name. Besides, is Wikipedia a website for everyone, or only Americans? I was under the impression that Wikipedia was intended to be a knowledge database, an encyclopedia, that would cater to anyone looking for information, without political or national bias. This includes Indians. I think the resistance to this change is based on many wikipedia users holding a western-centric viewpoint that ignores the stance of everyone else, and that's not desirable if this website is intended to be used by everyone. I don't meant any disrespect to anyone but I will call out bias where I see it. Thank you for your time. -- Usernamehere1234 ( talk) 22:41, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
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Collapsing. The OP is an WP:SPA who apparently registered solely in order to leave this, their only contribution to Wikipedia. Mathglot ( talk) 04:59, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
In the last stable (Sept 30 2019) version of this article, the following is odd (paragraph breaks removed for compactness here), "The Puranas record that Yayati left Allahabad and conquered the region of Saptha Sindhu.[41] His five sons (Yadu, Druhyu, Puru, Anu and Turvashu) founded the main tribes of the Rigveda.[42] Lord Rama, the protagonist of the Ramayana, spent time at the Ashram of Sage Bharadwaj before travelling to nearby Chitrakoot.[43] When people first settled in what they called the Āryāvarta (or Madhyadesha), Allahabad (then Kaushambi) was an important part of their territory.[44] The Kurus, rulers of Hastinapur (near present-day Delhi), established the town of Kaushambi near Allahabad.[45] They shifted their capital to Kaushambi when Hastinapur was destroyed by floods.[44] The Doab region, which includes Allahabad, was controlled by a succession of empires and dynasties.[46] The area became part of the Maurya and Gupta Empires from the east and the Kushan Empire from the west before being governed by Kannauj during the 15th century.[44] The city was the site of Maratha incursions before India was colonised.[46]"
It is odd, in part because the relevance to the topic is unclear / tangential. The sourcing is weak too, and some references such as [44] above (Smith) state the opposite of what our article states. Smith, on page 169 (second para), is clearly saying Kanauj and Prayag were different places. Suggest trimming/rewriting this part from this GA-level article. I await comments/objections. Ms Sarah Welch ( talk) 15:49, 5 October 2019 (UTC)