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Something that I'd like to see is an explanation of why some people (in Britain at least) collect used boring, common postage stamps for charity; surely they have no value for collectors?
212.219.56.214
08:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
-- Should the Stanley Gibbons references be on here? It seems a bit spammy considering the IP that added them is really mail.stanleygibbons.co.uk. A.Kurtz 14:08, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) --Obviously Gibbons is digging to keep their revenues up. Intelligent stamp people using a means of communication to exploit profit. Sounds like crooked stamp dealers to me.
-- If there is anything on my site at www.devoted.to/stamps that can be used on Wiki please feel free to use it as you see fit. Anything else I can help with especially regarding GB postal history leave me a message and I will try to sort it out -- user:Tallanent --Dead link. Is there a supervisory oversight who receives edits that can delete such garbage?
I think something should be on this page to distinguish between postage stamps and things like meter labels, PC Postage and computer vended postage but do not know how it should be gone about. -- user:Daniel C. Boyer --Good point; however, this is a philosophical question that should perhaps be encompassed in a parent article of "postage paid," "Prepaid postage," or something of a greater effect.
"Certain U.S. stamps without the country name
or with a letter for a face value are restricted to use in domestic mail. " Non-denominated stamps have been issued by other countries too, such as Britain. So I am going to revise it. -- user:Daniel C. Boyer
Some mention might be made that stamps have at times been made of materials other than paper, such as the U.S. plastic stamp, stamps that have been made out of foil, and the controversial East German stamp made entirely out of a synethetic material (controversial because it does not accept a cancellation, there is no good way to affix it to an envelope, etc.). (Who can find out more info about this?) -- user:Daniel C. Boyer --You ommited the best. The 1973 record stamps of Bhutan.
Mention cinderellas? -- user:Daniel C. Boyer
Care should be taken to distinguish when and if definitions of "express" and "special delivery" stamps are written that while in many countries the definition is the same in the United States there is a definite difference between "Express Mail" and the (now defunct) "Special Delivery." -- Daniel C. Boyer --Concur
"the numerous early issues of China and Japan that confound new collectors unfamiliar with oriental scripts": this is not an example of what is discussed earlier in the sentence! Re-editing. -- Daniel C. Boyer --This entire article is a grammatical and structural nightmare. I am horribly disappointed in philatelists' grammatical capability in expression.
I don't think Liechtenstein (not Lichtenstein, that's a pop-art painter) is a good example of "excessive" stamp production. There are many better examples, such as most island nations, that produce more stamps than reasonably needed (Pitcairn is a nice one). I would also immediately think of the emirates before they became united, and Eq. Guinee - or are these considered to be cinderellas? --Best example is Paraguay. Scott refuses to list new issues, since this country issues so many stamps.
My note on the USPO issuing Parcel Post Postage Due stamps may be too U.S.-centric. Are there any other countries that are examples? Someone might want to revise. -- Daniel C. Boyer --Too specific for an overall view of postal history
What do people think about moving the early history of the postage stamp to Penny Black? -- Tarquin 08:18 Aug 7, 2002 (PDT)
Where would be the best place (maybe another article) to talk about innovation in methods of selling, such as dispensing stamps by ATM? I am going to include it under "types of stamps" now, but this might not be the best way to go. -- Daniel C. Boyer
-- HEADING: MARKETING OF STAMPS
Mention of "encased postage"? -- user:Daniel C. Boyer
Test stamps? -- Daniel C. Boyer
there was also a stamp made out of thinly sliced wood. google it - Omegatron 19:47, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
http://www.swisspost.ch/SiteOnLine/EN/Accueil/1,1727,18202,00.html
--As is there one that is a record (Bhutan), one that is a piece of woven fabric (Switzerland), and many others of various composition of material. Pointless, useless, and not worthy of an oversight of postal history.
I'm trying to find the guidelines/requirements for the choice of what is depicted on U.S. Postage stamps - I'm having trouble finding the information, but I seem to remember there being a specific set of standards. One was that if a person is used, the person must be dead. --Stamp rule: The only portraits of living persons that may be included in design are reigning monarchs.
Found the following page Wine post. I wikified it and tried to verify on google, it came back as a match, but could someone of a Philatelic disposition take a look and check it out, maybe put a link to it in the right place so as it becomes less of an orphan? ta Sabine's Sunbird 06:05, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Where are they made?
--Impressive. Fix your grammar first. "This user has begrudgingly began to use citation templates. Try not to crow." BEGUN
With the number of PD images that should be around (there are plently of 100 year old stamps) do we really need to use a fair use image? Geni 14:34, 17 January 2006 (UTC) --I have scanned digital record of over 1 million stamps. I would be happy to provide a nicer example as determined by community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.175.231 ( talk) 05:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
no. i live in new zealand and the stamps are not circular. Plough | talk to me 11:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Should ephilately be here?
I seem to recall learning in school that stamps are legal tender in their countries of issue and can technically be used the same as coins and notes for payment of debts, especially where payment to government bodies are concerned. I don't know if this is true, but do any of you stamp experts? Are there any law experts here who can verify or falsify this? -- InformationalAnarchist Wednesday, July 12, 2006 at 14:54:04 (UTC) (Edited anonymously because I can't remember my identification password)
We need to do some more work on the section "Types of stamps". I have no idea what many of these strange terms mean. :=) -- 201.78.233.162 23:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I went through the external links and removed any spam / off topic links and removed the spam banner from the top. I also added a link to the APS and BNAPS Home page.
James A.O.B. 00:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
What happens if you mail something to Canada and accidentally use a US stamp does it still go or are you just screwed over? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krakko ( talk • contribs) 15:54, February 14, 2007
Your question is not clear. If you are in the US and use a US stamp for something going abroad, but it is unstamped or under-stamped, it will usually be returned to you for the additional postage. However, you want to send something to Canada but from where? If not from the US, it will usually be marked for postage due and the recipient may have to pay depending on the diligence of Canada Post in collecting foreign taxe. Hope that helps you. ww2censor 23:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
--All good and well; however, I suggest you frank a cover with majority stamps from the country of origin and throw in a few foreign ones and see what happens. It's especially interesting if you include stamps of the country of destination. In previous practice, this occurred in North America between the Canadian and US Postal systems. Other countries also allowed "Dual franking" of covers. It all depends on the mood of the postal clerk that moment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.175.231 ( talk) 04:51, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Why is there no History section? What are the origins of the postage stamp? Astadt 19:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have more, referenced information on UK not needing to print country of origin to add to the history section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.14.171 ( talk) 15:53, August 9, 2007
Hi, good day!
I would like to add this site (www.2-clicks-stamps. com (blacklisted)) on the list of external links on postage stamps article. This site talks everything about stamps. And i believe its necessary to include this because of its contents which will help stamps collector (novice and professionals) educate themselves. And since its a directory site, they will find it very useful and appropriate as external link.-- Melvinthegreat 08:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
--Delete this worthless information. It is a waste of electricity in a server farm somewhere.
Does anyone know of the history of using stamps as a seal for legal documents ? I think it was because they cost money, and could then make a contract binding, since even a written contract is not binding until something of value has been exchanged (called a 'consideration'). I've just come across it at the start of ' Monty Python's Flying Circus' Series 3 Episode 3 (1972) - 'The Money Programme', but there ought to be a more definitive reference than that ! -- 195.137.93.171 ( talk) 03:42, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
KEYWORD SEARCH IN GOOGLE: POSTAL FISCAL REVENUE USAGE
Dr. Velimir Sokol, one of the founders of the Croatian state's PTT museum in Zagreb, is a postal historian who has examined the question of Lovrenc Košir's role in inventing the postage stamp. Driven by historical facts, he concluded that the introduction of stamps into postal communications belongs absolutely to the Englishman, Rowland Hill. In 1979, under the decision of the Philatelists' Union of Slovenia, Lovrenc Košir is no longer accorded that recognition. [1]
Sokol's articles on Košir: "Has Lovrenc Košir proved to be the maker of the postage stamp concept?" (1962) and "The fortunes and misfortunes of Lovrenc Košir" (1979) are said to resemble good crime novels. Sokol's other monographs include "450 years of post in Zagreb, 1529-1979" (1979); "Hundred years of telephony in Croatia, 1881-1981" (1981); "Professional couriers in the Dubrovnik Republic" (1968), and "Place and role of postal history in historical science" (1974).
It appears that Košir's role in the history of postage stamps is highly controversial. The sentences in our article lack supporting documentation and if that is not forthcoming, they should be removed. Fconaway ( talk) 05:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
As to the reason given for reverting "no personal website links" - I did not link to a "personal web site" as claimed. Firstly, the site belongs to the United States Judo Association. More importantly, Wikipedia defines a " Personal web page" to be "World Wide Web pages created by an individual to contain content of a personal nature."
The page I linked to is not of a personal nature. It is a list of martial arts stamps that is no different in nature from the following lists on that page (except that it is an external link rather than an internal link):
-- David Broadfoot ( talk) 07:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
--This belongs in a category discussion for "TOPICAL STAMPS"
This article needs significant expansion.
<add your suggestions here>
AshLin ( talk) 16:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
--So you basically want to build about 1000 articles? This is inane garbage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.175.231 ( talk) 04:57, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I have a full sheet of "Workmen's compensation law" postage stamps how much are they worth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bronco67 ( talk • contribs) 21:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
"Among the most notable abusers have been Nicholas F. Seebeck and the component states of the United Arab Emirates. Seebeck operated in the 1890s as agent of Hamilton Bank Note Company and approached Latin American countries with an offer to produce their entire postage stamp needs free. In return he would have exclusive rights to market stamps to collectors. Each year a new issue was produced but it expired at the end of the year; this assured Seebeck of a continuing supply of remainders. In the 1960s printers such as the Barody Stamp Company contracted to produce stamps for the separate Emirates and other countries. These abuses combined with the sparse population of the desert states earned them the reputation of "sand dune" countries.
Some collectors have taken to philatelic investment. Rare stamps are among the most portable of tangible investments, and are easy to store."
What? This sentence makes no sense to the casual reader. What exactly is the abuse, and how does that abuse contribute to the reputation of the UAE states as sand dune countries? These things need to be explained in greater detail. What exactly was Seebeck's abuse? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.59.105.71 ( talk) 16:00, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
--No references, no material evidence, opinion, and flippant racial/bigotted remarks? Worthy of deletion in my estimation. The point of manipulating supllies of stamps for gain is interesting, but very poorly expressed. Grammatical travesty - just like the rest of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.175.231 ( talk) 04:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I see that Gwillhickers has twice removed a definition of what the postage stamp is. Being an encyclopedia, we define the topic at the start of the introduction. Per WP:MOSBEGIN the opening paragraph should "define the topic" and the first sentence of the introduction is supposed to: "answer two questions for the nonspecialist reader: "What (or who) is the subject?" and "Why is this subject notable?". However, now we tell readers what the postage stamp does or what it is made of, where we buy it but never define it. ww2censor ( talk) 20:21, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not: Personal essays that state your particular feelings about a topic (rather than the consensus of experts). Although Wikipedia is supposed to compile human knowledge, it is not a vehicle to make personal opinions become part of such knowledge. In the unusual situation where the opinions of an individual are important enough to discuss, it is preferable to let other people write about them. Personal essays on topics relating to Wikipedia are welcome in your user namespace or on the Meta-wiki. There is a Wikipedia fork at Wikinfo that encourages personal opinions in articles.
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lead section): The lead section (also known as the introduction or the lead) of a Wikipedia article is the section before the table of contents and first heading. The lead serves both as an introduction to the article and as a summary of the important aspects of the subject of the article.
The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article. It should define the topic, establish context, explain why the subject is interesting or notable, and summarize the most important points—including any notable controversies. The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, according to reliable, published sources, and the notability of the article's subject should usually be established in the first sentence.
While consideration should be given to creating interest in reading more of the article, the lead nonetheless should not "tease" the reader by hinting at—but not explaining—important facts that will appear later in the article. The lead should contain no more than four paragraphs, should be carefully sourced as appropriate, and should be written in a clear, accessible style to invite a reading of the full article.
...
- If its subject is amenable to definition, then the first sentence should give a concise definition: where possible, one that puts the article in context for the nonspecialist.
Regretfully, the definition and lead are not yet in shape. An entity (as an encyclopedic entry) must not be defined as what it "is made from" in the first line. This is a good example of how a Wikipedia article could be inappropriately edited, alas. -- Michael Romanov ( talk) 20:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
If even this particular printer played an important role in the postage stamp history, there is no need to include it in the section 'See also'. There are several other printers that are notable for their contribution in the postage stamp history of a certain country or overall. Why not to add all of them in 'See also'? I would suggest, instead, writing a separate section or an article reviewing notable stamp printers. -- Michael Romanov ( talk) 13:01, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Most of them do not relate directly to the subject, after visiting those websites of museums, societies and dealers. So, I am going to delete them. -- Michael Romanov ( talk) 22:01, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
1. The article says, perfectly correctly: 'the UK remains the only country not to identify itself by name on postal stamps'. The key word here from a historical point of view is remains. In the early days of postage stamps, Brazilian stamps (at least) did not indicate the country (or state) of issue, either, and there were surely others, too. A list of these countries would be interesting.
2.'Before the introduction of postage stamps, mail in the UK was paid for by the recipient ...' I recollect seeing pre-Penny Black covers posted in the UK marked prepaid. Was it really the case, as the article implies, that payment by recipient/addressee was the only option? Norvo ( talk) 22:31, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi, the various stamp wiki pages mention many types of stamps but the relation between these types is not always clear. I have modelled the relations in Meet-Alex, a data definition and modelling environment with a nice visualization. Would it be helpful to add this link to the types section of postage stamp (and maybe other places)? https://www.meet-alex.org/index.php/collections/24?visualShow=yes Regards, Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markhendrickx ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
I removed historical content from the lead section (intro), and placed it in History within an invisible comment. This content needs to be uncommented and merged into History. Turbo pencil ( talk) 18:55, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion about whether there is actually a special exception for the UK, so I went to look at current UPU regs, [3] and in Article 6, we have
"Postage stamps comprise: the name of the member country or territory of issue, in roman letters [1], or, if the UPU International Bureau is so requested by the member country or territory of issue, the abbreviation or initials officially representing the member country or territory of issue, in accordance with the conditions laid down in the Regulations; [...] [1] An exception shall be granted to the United Kingdom, the country which invented the postage stamp."
So it seems pretty clearly spelled out as a special exception (and no mention of a sovereign's head). Stan ( talk) 06:16, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Ireland officially launched the world's first (according to some news websites) digital stamp for use within Ireland with plans for use in international mail in the future. Should there not be a section on this? Source: [4]An Post Website 78.19.178.41 ( talk) 18:37, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
I need a stamp picture 2402:8100:303D:84C2:10C8:34C8:3048:C401 ( talk) 16:40, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
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Something that I'd like to see is an explanation of why some people (in Britain at least) collect used boring, common postage stamps for charity; surely they have no value for collectors?
212.219.56.214
08:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
-- Should the Stanley Gibbons references be on here? It seems a bit spammy considering the IP that added them is really mail.stanleygibbons.co.uk. A.Kurtz 14:08, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) --Obviously Gibbons is digging to keep their revenues up. Intelligent stamp people using a means of communication to exploit profit. Sounds like crooked stamp dealers to me.
-- If there is anything on my site at www.devoted.to/stamps that can be used on Wiki please feel free to use it as you see fit. Anything else I can help with especially regarding GB postal history leave me a message and I will try to sort it out -- user:Tallanent --Dead link. Is there a supervisory oversight who receives edits that can delete such garbage?
I think something should be on this page to distinguish between postage stamps and things like meter labels, PC Postage and computer vended postage but do not know how it should be gone about. -- user:Daniel C. Boyer --Good point; however, this is a philosophical question that should perhaps be encompassed in a parent article of "postage paid," "Prepaid postage," or something of a greater effect.
"Certain U.S. stamps without the country name
or with a letter for a face value are restricted to use in domestic mail. " Non-denominated stamps have been issued by other countries too, such as Britain. So I am going to revise it. -- user:Daniel C. Boyer
Some mention might be made that stamps have at times been made of materials other than paper, such as the U.S. plastic stamp, stamps that have been made out of foil, and the controversial East German stamp made entirely out of a synethetic material (controversial because it does not accept a cancellation, there is no good way to affix it to an envelope, etc.). (Who can find out more info about this?) -- user:Daniel C. Boyer --You ommited the best. The 1973 record stamps of Bhutan.
Mention cinderellas? -- user:Daniel C. Boyer
Care should be taken to distinguish when and if definitions of "express" and "special delivery" stamps are written that while in many countries the definition is the same in the United States there is a definite difference between "Express Mail" and the (now defunct) "Special Delivery." -- Daniel C. Boyer --Concur
"the numerous early issues of China and Japan that confound new collectors unfamiliar with oriental scripts": this is not an example of what is discussed earlier in the sentence! Re-editing. -- Daniel C. Boyer --This entire article is a grammatical and structural nightmare. I am horribly disappointed in philatelists' grammatical capability in expression.
I don't think Liechtenstein (not Lichtenstein, that's a pop-art painter) is a good example of "excessive" stamp production. There are many better examples, such as most island nations, that produce more stamps than reasonably needed (Pitcairn is a nice one). I would also immediately think of the emirates before they became united, and Eq. Guinee - or are these considered to be cinderellas? --Best example is Paraguay. Scott refuses to list new issues, since this country issues so many stamps.
My note on the USPO issuing Parcel Post Postage Due stamps may be too U.S.-centric. Are there any other countries that are examples? Someone might want to revise. -- Daniel C. Boyer --Too specific for an overall view of postal history
What do people think about moving the early history of the postage stamp to Penny Black? -- Tarquin 08:18 Aug 7, 2002 (PDT)
Where would be the best place (maybe another article) to talk about innovation in methods of selling, such as dispensing stamps by ATM? I am going to include it under "types of stamps" now, but this might not be the best way to go. -- Daniel C. Boyer
-- HEADING: MARKETING OF STAMPS
Mention of "encased postage"? -- user:Daniel C. Boyer
Test stamps? -- Daniel C. Boyer
there was also a stamp made out of thinly sliced wood. google it - Omegatron 19:47, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
http://www.swisspost.ch/SiteOnLine/EN/Accueil/1,1727,18202,00.html
--As is there one that is a record (Bhutan), one that is a piece of woven fabric (Switzerland), and many others of various composition of material. Pointless, useless, and not worthy of an oversight of postal history.
I'm trying to find the guidelines/requirements for the choice of what is depicted on U.S. Postage stamps - I'm having trouble finding the information, but I seem to remember there being a specific set of standards. One was that if a person is used, the person must be dead. --Stamp rule: The only portraits of living persons that may be included in design are reigning monarchs.
Found the following page Wine post. I wikified it and tried to verify on google, it came back as a match, but could someone of a Philatelic disposition take a look and check it out, maybe put a link to it in the right place so as it becomes less of an orphan? ta Sabine's Sunbird 06:05, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Where are they made?
--Impressive. Fix your grammar first. "This user has begrudgingly began to use citation templates. Try not to crow." BEGUN
With the number of PD images that should be around (there are plently of 100 year old stamps) do we really need to use a fair use image? Geni 14:34, 17 January 2006 (UTC) --I have scanned digital record of over 1 million stamps. I would be happy to provide a nicer example as determined by community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.175.231 ( talk) 05:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
no. i live in new zealand and the stamps are not circular. Plough | talk to me 11:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Should ephilately be here?
I seem to recall learning in school that stamps are legal tender in their countries of issue and can technically be used the same as coins and notes for payment of debts, especially where payment to government bodies are concerned. I don't know if this is true, but do any of you stamp experts? Are there any law experts here who can verify or falsify this? -- InformationalAnarchist Wednesday, July 12, 2006 at 14:54:04 (UTC) (Edited anonymously because I can't remember my identification password)
We need to do some more work on the section "Types of stamps". I have no idea what many of these strange terms mean. :=) -- 201.78.233.162 23:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I went through the external links and removed any spam / off topic links and removed the spam banner from the top. I also added a link to the APS and BNAPS Home page.
James A.O.B. 00:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
What happens if you mail something to Canada and accidentally use a US stamp does it still go or are you just screwed over? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krakko ( talk • contribs) 15:54, February 14, 2007
Your question is not clear. If you are in the US and use a US stamp for something going abroad, but it is unstamped or under-stamped, it will usually be returned to you for the additional postage. However, you want to send something to Canada but from where? If not from the US, it will usually be marked for postage due and the recipient may have to pay depending on the diligence of Canada Post in collecting foreign taxe. Hope that helps you. ww2censor 23:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
--All good and well; however, I suggest you frank a cover with majority stamps from the country of origin and throw in a few foreign ones and see what happens. It's especially interesting if you include stamps of the country of destination. In previous practice, this occurred in North America between the Canadian and US Postal systems. Other countries also allowed "Dual franking" of covers. It all depends on the mood of the postal clerk that moment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.175.231 ( talk) 04:51, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Why is there no History section? What are the origins of the postage stamp? Astadt 19:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have more, referenced information on UK not needing to print country of origin to add to the history section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.14.171 ( talk) 15:53, August 9, 2007
Hi, good day!
I would like to add this site (www.2-clicks-stamps. com (blacklisted)) on the list of external links on postage stamps article. This site talks everything about stamps. And i believe its necessary to include this because of its contents which will help stamps collector (novice and professionals) educate themselves. And since its a directory site, they will find it very useful and appropriate as external link.-- Melvinthegreat 08:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
--Delete this worthless information. It is a waste of electricity in a server farm somewhere.
Does anyone know of the history of using stamps as a seal for legal documents ? I think it was because they cost money, and could then make a contract binding, since even a written contract is not binding until something of value has been exchanged (called a 'consideration'). I've just come across it at the start of ' Monty Python's Flying Circus' Series 3 Episode 3 (1972) - 'The Money Programme', but there ought to be a more definitive reference than that ! -- 195.137.93.171 ( talk) 03:42, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
KEYWORD SEARCH IN GOOGLE: POSTAL FISCAL REVENUE USAGE
Dr. Velimir Sokol, one of the founders of the Croatian state's PTT museum in Zagreb, is a postal historian who has examined the question of Lovrenc Košir's role in inventing the postage stamp. Driven by historical facts, he concluded that the introduction of stamps into postal communications belongs absolutely to the Englishman, Rowland Hill. In 1979, under the decision of the Philatelists' Union of Slovenia, Lovrenc Košir is no longer accorded that recognition. [1]
Sokol's articles on Košir: "Has Lovrenc Košir proved to be the maker of the postage stamp concept?" (1962) and "The fortunes and misfortunes of Lovrenc Košir" (1979) are said to resemble good crime novels. Sokol's other monographs include "450 years of post in Zagreb, 1529-1979" (1979); "Hundred years of telephony in Croatia, 1881-1981" (1981); "Professional couriers in the Dubrovnik Republic" (1968), and "Place and role of postal history in historical science" (1974).
It appears that Košir's role in the history of postage stamps is highly controversial. The sentences in our article lack supporting documentation and if that is not forthcoming, they should be removed. Fconaway ( talk) 05:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
As to the reason given for reverting "no personal website links" - I did not link to a "personal web site" as claimed. Firstly, the site belongs to the United States Judo Association. More importantly, Wikipedia defines a " Personal web page" to be "World Wide Web pages created by an individual to contain content of a personal nature."
The page I linked to is not of a personal nature. It is a list of martial arts stamps that is no different in nature from the following lists on that page (except that it is an external link rather than an internal link):
-- David Broadfoot ( talk) 07:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
--This belongs in a category discussion for "TOPICAL STAMPS"
This article needs significant expansion.
<add your suggestions here>
AshLin ( talk) 16:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
--So you basically want to build about 1000 articles? This is inane garbage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.175.231 ( talk) 04:57, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I have a full sheet of "Workmen's compensation law" postage stamps how much are they worth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bronco67 ( talk • contribs) 21:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
"Among the most notable abusers have been Nicholas F. Seebeck and the component states of the United Arab Emirates. Seebeck operated in the 1890s as agent of Hamilton Bank Note Company and approached Latin American countries with an offer to produce their entire postage stamp needs free. In return he would have exclusive rights to market stamps to collectors. Each year a new issue was produced but it expired at the end of the year; this assured Seebeck of a continuing supply of remainders. In the 1960s printers such as the Barody Stamp Company contracted to produce stamps for the separate Emirates and other countries. These abuses combined with the sparse population of the desert states earned them the reputation of "sand dune" countries.
Some collectors have taken to philatelic investment. Rare stamps are among the most portable of tangible investments, and are easy to store."
What? This sentence makes no sense to the casual reader. What exactly is the abuse, and how does that abuse contribute to the reputation of the UAE states as sand dune countries? These things need to be explained in greater detail. What exactly was Seebeck's abuse? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.59.105.71 ( talk) 16:00, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
--No references, no material evidence, opinion, and flippant racial/bigotted remarks? Worthy of deletion in my estimation. The point of manipulating supllies of stamps for gain is interesting, but very poorly expressed. Grammatical travesty - just like the rest of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.175.231 ( talk) 04:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
I see that Gwillhickers has twice removed a definition of what the postage stamp is. Being an encyclopedia, we define the topic at the start of the introduction. Per WP:MOSBEGIN the opening paragraph should "define the topic" and the first sentence of the introduction is supposed to: "answer two questions for the nonspecialist reader: "What (or who) is the subject?" and "Why is this subject notable?". However, now we tell readers what the postage stamp does or what it is made of, where we buy it but never define it. ww2censor ( talk) 20:21, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not: Personal essays that state your particular feelings about a topic (rather than the consensus of experts). Although Wikipedia is supposed to compile human knowledge, it is not a vehicle to make personal opinions become part of such knowledge. In the unusual situation where the opinions of an individual are important enough to discuss, it is preferable to let other people write about them. Personal essays on topics relating to Wikipedia are welcome in your user namespace or on the Meta-wiki. There is a Wikipedia fork at Wikinfo that encourages personal opinions in articles.
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lead section): The lead section (also known as the introduction or the lead) of a Wikipedia article is the section before the table of contents and first heading. The lead serves both as an introduction to the article and as a summary of the important aspects of the subject of the article.
The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article. It should define the topic, establish context, explain why the subject is interesting or notable, and summarize the most important points—including any notable controversies. The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, according to reliable, published sources, and the notability of the article's subject should usually be established in the first sentence.
While consideration should be given to creating interest in reading more of the article, the lead nonetheless should not "tease" the reader by hinting at—but not explaining—important facts that will appear later in the article. The lead should contain no more than four paragraphs, should be carefully sourced as appropriate, and should be written in a clear, accessible style to invite a reading of the full article.
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- If its subject is amenable to definition, then the first sentence should give a concise definition: where possible, one that puts the article in context for the nonspecialist.
Regretfully, the definition and lead are not yet in shape. An entity (as an encyclopedic entry) must not be defined as what it "is made from" in the first line. This is a good example of how a Wikipedia article could be inappropriately edited, alas. -- Michael Romanov ( talk) 20:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
If even this particular printer played an important role in the postage stamp history, there is no need to include it in the section 'See also'. There are several other printers that are notable for their contribution in the postage stamp history of a certain country or overall. Why not to add all of them in 'See also'? I would suggest, instead, writing a separate section or an article reviewing notable stamp printers. -- Michael Romanov ( talk) 13:01, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Most of them do not relate directly to the subject, after visiting those websites of museums, societies and dealers. So, I am going to delete them. -- Michael Romanov ( talk) 22:01, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
1. The article says, perfectly correctly: 'the UK remains the only country not to identify itself by name on postal stamps'. The key word here from a historical point of view is remains. In the early days of postage stamps, Brazilian stamps (at least) did not indicate the country (or state) of issue, either, and there were surely others, too. A list of these countries would be interesting.
2.'Before the introduction of postage stamps, mail in the UK was paid for by the recipient ...' I recollect seeing pre-Penny Black covers posted in the UK marked prepaid. Was it really the case, as the article implies, that payment by recipient/addressee was the only option? Norvo ( talk) 22:31, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi, the various stamp wiki pages mention many types of stamps but the relation between these types is not always clear. I have modelled the relations in Meet-Alex, a data definition and modelling environment with a nice visualization. Would it be helpful to add this link to the types section of postage stamp (and maybe other places)? https://www.meet-alex.org/index.php/collections/24?visualShow=yes Regards, Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markhendrickx ( talk • contribs) 15:25, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
I removed historical content from the lead section (intro), and placed it in History within an invisible comment. This content needs to be uncommented and merged into History. Turbo pencil ( talk) 18:55, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion about whether there is actually a special exception for the UK, so I went to look at current UPU regs, [3] and in Article 6, we have
"Postage stamps comprise: the name of the member country or territory of issue, in roman letters [1], or, if the UPU International Bureau is so requested by the member country or territory of issue, the abbreviation or initials officially representing the member country or territory of issue, in accordance with the conditions laid down in the Regulations; [...] [1] An exception shall be granted to the United Kingdom, the country which invented the postage stamp."
So it seems pretty clearly spelled out as a special exception (and no mention of a sovereign's head). Stan ( talk) 06:16, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Ireland officially launched the world's first (according to some news websites) digital stamp for use within Ireland with plans for use in international mail in the future. Should there not be a section on this? Source: [4]An Post Website 78.19.178.41 ( talk) 18:37, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
I need a stamp picture 2402:8100:303D:84C2:10C8:34C8:3048:C401 ( talk) 16:40, 14 June 2023 (UTC)