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Why was this article moved? There are two factories that produce remembrance poppies: one in England and one in Scotland. Each is commonly called the Poppy Factory (with capitals). -- Ferma ( talk) 08:08, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Of course a proper noun can be a plural, and the indefinite article can be used with a proper noun too. Consider: There is more than one Ritz Hotel - there is a Ritz Hotel in London and one in Paris: these two Ritz Hotels are in Europe.
This article is not about poppy factories in general, it is about two particular factories. I am not aware of any others apart from these two, both of which are usually called the - often The, with a capital "t" - Poppy Factory. -- Ferma ( talk) 12:06, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
But this article is not about poppy factories in general. There is no such concept as a "general" poppy factory, there are only these two specific instances. The analogy is closer with Ritz Hotels than hotels in general.
As to the proper name of each factory, look at the references and external links. Almost without exception, the one in Richmond is referred to as the (or The) Poppy Factory, and not as the Royal British Legion Poppy Factory:
Only two sources - the ODNB and BBC here, in 2006 - uses the lower case name, and the ODNB is also the only one to call it the British Legion Poppy Factory or the Royal British Legion Poppy Factory. The company that runs it is "Royal British Legion Poppy Factory Limited", but the factory is the (or The) Poppy Factory.
The one in Scotland is generally called "Lady Haig's Poppy Factory" to distinguish it, but it is also referred to as "the Poppy Factory".
I have added some additional information about it.
Perhaps we could merge the information in this article back into other articles, as suggested above, but the sources clearly demonstrate that both Poppy Factories are notable. Another alteriative would be to have separate pages on each, and turn this article into a disambiguation page:
But I think it makes more sense to keep it this all in one place.
The English arm of the Haig Fund used to run the Poppy Appeal, but it ceased to exist by 2009 at the latest. [10] -- Ferma ( talk) 18:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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The Lady Haig's Poppy Factory article had been tagged for notability, with some justification. I have consequently merged here. Thincat ( talk) 11:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
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Why was this article moved? There are two factories that produce remembrance poppies: one in England and one in Scotland. Each is commonly called the Poppy Factory (with capitals). -- Ferma ( talk) 08:08, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Of course a proper noun can be a plural, and the indefinite article can be used with a proper noun too. Consider: There is more than one Ritz Hotel - there is a Ritz Hotel in London and one in Paris: these two Ritz Hotels are in Europe.
This article is not about poppy factories in general, it is about two particular factories. I am not aware of any others apart from these two, both of which are usually called the - often The, with a capital "t" - Poppy Factory. -- Ferma ( talk) 12:06, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
But this article is not about poppy factories in general. There is no such concept as a "general" poppy factory, there are only these two specific instances. The analogy is closer with Ritz Hotels than hotels in general.
As to the proper name of each factory, look at the references and external links. Almost without exception, the one in Richmond is referred to as the (or The) Poppy Factory, and not as the Royal British Legion Poppy Factory:
Only two sources - the ODNB and BBC here, in 2006 - uses the lower case name, and the ODNB is also the only one to call it the British Legion Poppy Factory or the Royal British Legion Poppy Factory. The company that runs it is "Royal British Legion Poppy Factory Limited", but the factory is the (or The) Poppy Factory.
The one in Scotland is generally called "Lady Haig's Poppy Factory" to distinguish it, but it is also referred to as "the Poppy Factory".
I have added some additional information about it.
Perhaps we could merge the information in this article back into other articles, as suggested above, but the sources clearly demonstrate that both Poppy Factories are notable. Another alteriative would be to have separate pages on each, and turn this article into a disambiguation page:
But I think it makes more sense to keep it this all in one place.
The English arm of the Haig Fund used to run the Poppy Appeal, but it ceased to exist by 2009 at the latest. [10] -- Ferma ( talk) 18:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
![]() | Text and/or other creative content from this version of Lady Haig's Poppy Factory was copied or moved into Poppy Factory with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
The Lady Haig's Poppy Factory article had been tagged for notability, with some justification. I have consequently merged here. Thincat ( talk) 11:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)