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Is "in the United States" necessary when linking to Iowa?
I think so. I know that when you click on the Iowa link it immediately says it's a state in the US, but I'd prefer to lay this out up-front to readers, especially since it's not one of the more well-known states.
Dana boomer (
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14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
That makes sense, leave it as is then.
The phrase "and within 15 years has registered 12,500 ponies" is unclear.
You're inconsistent with your use of the Oxford comma; if you like it, then you need a comma after "specific height", "muzzle", and "the refinement of the Arabian". I personally prefer it, so that's what I noticed. :)
Yeah, it's less clunky, but I still have no idea what the American Paint Horse has to do with any of this.
Comment it's a horse people thing. Pinto/Paint patterns are often dominant over leopard spotting, so POA and
Appaloosa people totally freak out about it. It's a huge deal to them that their horses do not carry even a hint of the Pinto/Paint patterns because of the genetic havoc they can wreak when breeding for the little leopard spots.
You use both "it" and "they" to refer to the pony/breed, which is correct?
Can you explain the "pony" vs. "horse" thing further? I'm not an equine enthusiast, sorry. <sheepish grin>
I've added a bit here to show that the distinction is based on physical characteristics and size. I can add more if you'd like me to - just wasn't sure how deeply I should go in an individual breed article.
Dana boomer (
talk)
14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
It makes more sense now. Thanks for the gloss on phenotype - I didn't notice that missing as a science type! :)
"Along with crosses between registered POAs..." is clunky, maybe more the Appaloosa/Arabian thing earlier?
Why has the Shetland blood been bred out? I'm confused.
To make the horse look more like the little
stock horse type that the original breeder was breeding towards. Shetland ponies tend to be small and fat and hairy, which was definitely not what he was looking for :)
Haha that explains so much! I like the way you explained it in the article without saying "fat and hairy" though.
Just to clarify, it's a youth-oriented club because the pony was bred for children/small adults to ride?
Yes. Also, they have a ton of youth-focused and youth-only shows, activities, etc., which a lot of registries (especially relatively smaller registries like this one) don't. I wasn't sure how deep I should go into the registries activities, or where I was crossing the line between describing the registry and promoting their activities.
Dana boomer (
talk)
14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
That's fine as it is.
What is an "under saddle age limit", and does it apply to pony, human, or both?
Is there perhaps an image of the pony in one of those events, or maybe a historical image? It's not a huge deal if there isn't.
The best image I have been able to find of the breed is the one in the infobox, and I'm not really even happy with that one. I haven't been able to find anything historical or in competition. I did add in an image of a pure-blood Appaloosa, as a founder of the breed, just so people can see what the "original" looks like. Does this work?
Dana boomer (
talk)
14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I like seeing the difference between the original Appaloosa and the POA. It's nice!
Thank you for the review. I believe I've addressed everything above, but had a few questions, so please let me know if there is additional work you would like to see done. I actually really appreciate having a non-horse person look at the articles I write, since they tend to see jargon and completeness issues that I completely miss due to my familiarity with the subject.
Dana boomer (
talk)
14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Yep, I had one or two comments in return. I totally understand about the non-specialized reader thing, I love having non-astronomy people read my articles because they read it completely differently. Great job!
Keilana|Parlez ici17:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Yes, thanks Keilana, this one is all Dana's baby, but hope I could answer some questions. (It's not really relevant here, but I once got a temporary national card to judge a regional POA show because they needed three judges and there weren't three regular POA qualified judges in Montana, normally I do other stuff, but it was a delightful experience, great owners and exhibitors!)
Montanabw(talk)19:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the answer, is there any way one of you could gloss that in the article? I think it may be confused to readers who aren't as educated about horses. Montana - I remember you from a mediation years and years ago, it's good to see you still doing great work. :)
Keilana|Parlez ici19:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Nope, I'm totally happy with this. I'll do all the promotion bits now. Congratulations, and nice work! I definitely learned something from this.
Keilana|Parlez ici03:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Looking for what I suspect is a point of clarification. Is the statement "Today, the Pony of the Americas Club is the most active, youth-oriented club in the US." accurate? If I were to be asked about youth-oriented clubs, I would have thought Boy Scouts of America and similar would rank higher. The POA website does not have figures to back up this statement so turn to the author of the article for references. Even if changed to read "Today, the Pony of the Americas Club is the most active, youth-oriented pony club in the US.", it would still be nice to identify the references.
JGTank (
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03:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)reply
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United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
Is "in the United States" necessary when linking to Iowa?
I think so. I know that when you click on the Iowa link it immediately says it's a state in the US, but I'd prefer to lay this out up-front to readers, especially since it's not one of the more well-known states.
Dana boomer (
talk)
14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
That makes sense, leave it as is then.
The phrase "and within 15 years has registered 12,500 ponies" is unclear.
You're inconsistent with your use of the Oxford comma; if you like it, then you need a comma after "specific height", "muzzle", and "the refinement of the Arabian". I personally prefer it, so that's what I noticed. :)
Yeah, it's less clunky, but I still have no idea what the American Paint Horse has to do with any of this.
Comment it's a horse people thing. Pinto/Paint patterns are often dominant over leopard spotting, so POA and
Appaloosa people totally freak out about it. It's a huge deal to them that their horses do not carry even a hint of the Pinto/Paint patterns because of the genetic havoc they can wreak when breeding for the little leopard spots.
You use both "it" and "they" to refer to the pony/breed, which is correct?
Can you explain the "pony" vs. "horse" thing further? I'm not an equine enthusiast, sorry. <sheepish grin>
I've added a bit here to show that the distinction is based on physical characteristics and size. I can add more if you'd like me to - just wasn't sure how deeply I should go in an individual breed article.
Dana boomer (
talk)
14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
It makes more sense now. Thanks for the gloss on phenotype - I didn't notice that missing as a science type! :)
"Along with crosses between registered POAs..." is clunky, maybe more the Appaloosa/Arabian thing earlier?
Why has the Shetland blood been bred out? I'm confused.
To make the horse look more like the little
stock horse type that the original breeder was breeding towards. Shetland ponies tend to be small and fat and hairy, which was definitely not what he was looking for :)
Haha that explains so much! I like the way you explained it in the article without saying "fat and hairy" though.
Just to clarify, it's a youth-oriented club because the pony was bred for children/small adults to ride?
Yes. Also, they have a ton of youth-focused and youth-only shows, activities, etc., which a lot of registries (especially relatively smaller registries like this one) don't. I wasn't sure how deep I should go into the registries activities, or where I was crossing the line between describing the registry and promoting their activities.
Dana boomer (
talk)
14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
That's fine as it is.
What is an "under saddle age limit", and does it apply to pony, human, or both?
Is there perhaps an image of the pony in one of those events, or maybe a historical image? It's not a huge deal if there isn't.
The best image I have been able to find of the breed is the one in the infobox, and I'm not really even happy with that one. I haven't been able to find anything historical or in competition. I did add in an image of a pure-blood Appaloosa, as a founder of the breed, just so people can see what the "original" looks like. Does this work?
Dana boomer (
talk)
14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I like seeing the difference between the original Appaloosa and the POA. It's nice!
Thank you for the review. I believe I've addressed everything above, but had a few questions, so please let me know if there is additional work you would like to see done. I actually really appreciate having a non-horse person look at the articles I write, since they tend to see jargon and completeness issues that I completely miss due to my familiarity with the subject.
Dana boomer (
talk)
14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Yep, I had one or two comments in return. I totally understand about the non-specialized reader thing, I love having non-astronomy people read my articles because they read it completely differently. Great job!
Keilana|Parlez ici17:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Yes, thanks Keilana, this one is all Dana's baby, but hope I could answer some questions. (It's not really relevant here, but I once got a temporary national card to judge a regional POA show because they needed three judges and there weren't three regular POA qualified judges in Montana, normally I do other stuff, but it was a delightful experience, great owners and exhibitors!)
Montanabw(talk)19:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the answer, is there any way one of you could gloss that in the article? I think it may be confused to readers who aren't as educated about horses. Montana - I remember you from a mediation years and years ago, it's good to see you still doing great work. :)
Keilana|Parlez ici19:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Nope, I'm totally happy with this. I'll do all the promotion bits now. Congratulations, and nice work! I definitely learned something from this.
Keilana|Parlez ici03:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Looking for what I suspect is a point of clarification. Is the statement "Today, the Pony of the Americas Club is the most active, youth-oriented club in the US." accurate? If I were to be asked about youth-oriented clubs, I would have thought Boy Scouts of America and similar would rank higher. The POA website does not have figures to back up this statement so turn to the author of the article for references. Even if changed to read "Today, the Pony of the Americas Club is the most active, youth-oriented pony club in the US.", it would still be nice to identify the references.
JGTank (
talk)
03:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)reply