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Who on Earth included that new image? It's hideous! Can't we get something beautiful? -- Monkeynuts2008 ( talk) 17:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
In Welsh, the river is the Taf (pronounced Tarv). However, in English, it is the river Taff. This is how it is pronounced by the vast majority of the people of the town, and using this avoids confusion with the River Taf (English spelling) or a river in West Wales.. which is where you currently link to if you press on the Taf link in this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.56.246 ( talk) 21:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Where was Tom Jones born? Was it Trefforest, or Pontypridd? -- Rebroad 23:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Treforest gives a street address of 57, Kingsland Terrace -- RupertB 22:00, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Can any one tell me whether there was a theatre (called the Star) in Pontypridd in the 1860's? Any information about it would be useful. Also Does Gelliwasted maean anything? Also In the 1860's what churches were there in Pontypridd in the mid-Victorian era?
I have removed David Halloway, I have never heard of him (either as a local DJ or as an adult entertainer - is this a joke? Can anyone provide any more details.
AND 'the best live location in Wales' is REALLY biased.
Count Of The Saxon Shore
22:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
When was it relocated from Trefforest? Countersubject 10:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
It wasn't. UoG website still cites Trefforest as the address. 137.222.37.12 14:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I have removed J Bishop as a famous Ponty person this is due to the fact he is not and well I guess we could all just add ourselves in vanity, I added John Evans writter and poet who is famous and is listed as a Welsh hero in the recent national poll.
Again deleted J Bishop. I thought this was a serious website that contained proper facts and should not be abused. Please refer to guidlines or post at http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Pontypridd
There seems to be some confusion about the status of Trefforest. At one point the article says that Pontypridd incorporates the village of Trefforest; at another, it refers to neighbouring Trefforest, and this page has a question as to whether Tom Jones was born in one or the other. The Trefforest article simply states that it is a small village to the south-east of Pontypridd. Countersubject 16:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
... so I removed the reference to Trefforest as part of Pontypridd Countersubject 13:02, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Trefforest is definately within Pontypridd, but lot of people think of it as a place in it's own right. I think most addresses list Trefforest as in Pontypridd - but this should be checked out. Also remember there's a place called Trefforest Estate nearby in Nantgarw, which could add to the confusion. Trefforest Estate is definately not in Pontypridd.
Indeed Treforest estate is in Pontypridd, Pontypridd ends at Nant Garw, Taffs Well in local culture denotes the start of Cardiff. Pontypridd starts South of Trehafod and ends at Nant Garw.
I'd like to second the last bit. Trefforest is definitely within Pontypridd, and most of the estate is, with the exception of Parc Nantgarw, which has a Cardiff postal address. Nantgarw is in Cardiff postal town. People there will often think of themselves as part of Pontypridd though due to school children attending Pontypridd schools (mainly Hawthorn, but also the Welsh school, or Cardinal Newman). Taffs Well is a funny one - they normally attend Ponty schools but its a part of Cardiff in many other ways. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.56.246 ( talk) 21:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I think the article should say that "reath" is pronounced as in "Breathe" not "Breath".
I am going to start an article on Ynysangharad park but just need some advice on the naming. I have always known it as Ynysangharad park but I think its official name is Ynysangharad War Memorial Park. Which name do you think should be used? Kosack ( talk) 11:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
This is always going to be a contentious issue because of the extent of development of the Rhondda and Taff valleys there is so much overlap, just what is 'Rhondda', what is 'Pontypridd', what is 'Llantwit Fardre'/'Llantrisant'? I guess at the crudest level given that Ponty is at the junction of the Rhondda and Taff (uper/lower) valleys, then Ponty is both at the bottom of the Rhondda valley, or at the top of the Taff-Ely Valley depending on your persepctive.
It is difficuilt to seperate Pontypridd from the 'Rhondda' as a destinct identity because while Ponty is generally more affluent today than the 'Rhondda', Ponty was a heavily industrialised region as per the 'Rhondda' with its north western communities (e.g. Graig, Gyfeillion, Hopkinstown, Pantygraigwen, Pwllgwaun, Troedrhiwtrwyn etc) being more akin to those of what is typically considered the 'Rhondda' than those communities further south.
I would consider everything north of Treforest to be the bottom of the Rhondda valley, since 1.) the River Rhondda Fawr terminates in Ynysangharad Park, 2.) This area is defined by the Rhondda electoral ward which is officially defined as being part of Pontypridd Town 3.) North of Treforest, Pontypridd was atleast if not more industrialised than much of what is typically thought of as being the 'Rhondda', and some of the richest Rhondda coal seams ran through there, these were exploited before many of the pits were sunk in the 'Rhondda' 4.) While south of this (with the exception of Trefforest Iron & Steal Works and the Dynea coal levels above Rhydyfelin, there was comparatively little industry as per the area to the west of Trefforest Estate (Church Village, Llantwit Fardre etc).
With regard to Trehafod this is another difficuilt one. If you weren't to accept Hopkinstown etc as part of the Rhondda then neither can you accept Trehafod, since the Rhondda Fawr pass both and it isn't until Porth (the 'gateway' to the Rhondda as you know) that the Rhondda Valley is thought to begin in earnest, in some respects this would be the logical cut-off between Pontypridd and the Rhondda. Trehafod has always been debated as to whether it is within Pontypridd or the Rhondda or simply between the two, it all depends on your standpoint.
People actually living along the Rhondda Fawr will classify themselves according to whether they want to be considered associated with Ponty or a resident of Rhondda I suppose, but the fact that these communities are alongside the banks/overlooking the Rhonnda Fawr means that they must be within the Rhondda Valley, and yet these are within walking distance of the town centre and their existence dependant of the town and I would therefore also consider them part of Pontypridd.
Like I say, the easiest thing would be to either seperate at Porth or north/west of the park. Another contentious one is where does Ponty town end and Treforest begin, also is Treforest Industrial Estate part of Ponty given that prior to construction of the estate this was rural land which formed a break between 'Pontypridd' and the lower Taff Vale (Nantgarw/Gwaelod-y-Garth/Taffs Well/Creigiau/Pentyrch etc). If you manage to resolve all these then you've done better than countless people before you, good luck, I think you'll need it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.168.45.250 ( talk) 13:16, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Pontypridd's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "RCT1":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Pontypridd is a town with incredible swathes of history. Surely we can find someone who can further expand on this wonderful place?-- Monkeynuts2008 ( talk) 16:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
The 2nd edit of an IP whose other two were both pretty clearly in bad faith removed from Pontypridd#External links the following:
The site's sarcastic & IMO anti-social tone raise questions in my mind about its value, the ad for the site-builder who created it, and the prominent "Visit Our Sponsors" appeal do suggest to me that the remover's description of the lk as "spam" may be justified. Others in a better position (than i who 30 minutes ago knew not of Ponty's existence) to put it in perspective may want to consider whether reversion of the removal is in order.
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Cultural section should probably mention the museum:
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@ CamT345345:, @ 81.100.79.216: you're inserting ridiculous stuff about records for eating peaches and time spent seat-warming, in the Sports section. WP is hard enough to maintain without it being used as a playground for a good laugh. This sort of editing is disruptive and likely to get you banned. But it is quite funny. But please stop. Elemimele ( talk) 21:18, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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86.29.226.111 ( talk) 09:29, 24 November 2008 (UTC) Priority 1 (top)
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Who on Earth included that new image? It's hideous! Can't we get something beautiful? -- Monkeynuts2008 ( talk) 17:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
In Welsh, the river is the Taf (pronounced Tarv). However, in English, it is the river Taff. This is how it is pronounced by the vast majority of the people of the town, and using this avoids confusion with the River Taf (English spelling) or a river in West Wales.. which is where you currently link to if you press on the Taf link in this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.56.246 ( talk) 21:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Where was Tom Jones born? Was it Trefforest, or Pontypridd? -- Rebroad 23:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Treforest gives a street address of 57, Kingsland Terrace -- RupertB 22:00, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Can any one tell me whether there was a theatre (called the Star) in Pontypridd in the 1860's? Any information about it would be useful. Also Does Gelliwasted maean anything? Also In the 1860's what churches were there in Pontypridd in the mid-Victorian era?
I have removed David Halloway, I have never heard of him (either as a local DJ or as an adult entertainer - is this a joke? Can anyone provide any more details.
AND 'the best live location in Wales' is REALLY biased.
Count Of The Saxon Shore
22:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
When was it relocated from Trefforest? Countersubject 10:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
It wasn't. UoG website still cites Trefforest as the address. 137.222.37.12 14:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I have removed J Bishop as a famous Ponty person this is due to the fact he is not and well I guess we could all just add ourselves in vanity, I added John Evans writter and poet who is famous and is listed as a Welsh hero in the recent national poll.
Again deleted J Bishop. I thought this was a serious website that contained proper facts and should not be abused. Please refer to guidlines or post at http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Pontypridd
There seems to be some confusion about the status of Trefforest. At one point the article says that Pontypridd incorporates the village of Trefforest; at another, it refers to neighbouring Trefforest, and this page has a question as to whether Tom Jones was born in one or the other. The Trefforest article simply states that it is a small village to the south-east of Pontypridd. Countersubject 16:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
... so I removed the reference to Trefforest as part of Pontypridd Countersubject 13:02, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Trefforest is definately within Pontypridd, but lot of people think of it as a place in it's own right. I think most addresses list Trefforest as in Pontypridd - but this should be checked out. Also remember there's a place called Trefforest Estate nearby in Nantgarw, which could add to the confusion. Trefforest Estate is definately not in Pontypridd.
Indeed Treforest estate is in Pontypridd, Pontypridd ends at Nant Garw, Taffs Well in local culture denotes the start of Cardiff. Pontypridd starts South of Trehafod and ends at Nant Garw.
I'd like to second the last bit. Trefforest is definitely within Pontypridd, and most of the estate is, with the exception of Parc Nantgarw, which has a Cardiff postal address. Nantgarw is in Cardiff postal town. People there will often think of themselves as part of Pontypridd though due to school children attending Pontypridd schools (mainly Hawthorn, but also the Welsh school, or Cardinal Newman). Taffs Well is a funny one - they normally attend Ponty schools but its a part of Cardiff in many other ways. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.56.246 ( talk) 21:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I think the article should say that "reath" is pronounced as in "Breathe" not "Breath".
I am going to start an article on Ynysangharad park but just need some advice on the naming. I have always known it as Ynysangharad park but I think its official name is Ynysangharad War Memorial Park. Which name do you think should be used? Kosack ( talk) 11:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
This is always going to be a contentious issue because of the extent of development of the Rhondda and Taff valleys there is so much overlap, just what is 'Rhondda', what is 'Pontypridd', what is 'Llantwit Fardre'/'Llantrisant'? I guess at the crudest level given that Ponty is at the junction of the Rhondda and Taff (uper/lower) valleys, then Ponty is both at the bottom of the Rhondda valley, or at the top of the Taff-Ely Valley depending on your persepctive.
It is difficuilt to seperate Pontypridd from the 'Rhondda' as a destinct identity because while Ponty is generally more affluent today than the 'Rhondda', Ponty was a heavily industrialised region as per the 'Rhondda' with its north western communities (e.g. Graig, Gyfeillion, Hopkinstown, Pantygraigwen, Pwllgwaun, Troedrhiwtrwyn etc) being more akin to those of what is typically considered the 'Rhondda' than those communities further south.
I would consider everything north of Treforest to be the bottom of the Rhondda valley, since 1.) the River Rhondda Fawr terminates in Ynysangharad Park, 2.) This area is defined by the Rhondda electoral ward which is officially defined as being part of Pontypridd Town 3.) North of Treforest, Pontypridd was atleast if not more industrialised than much of what is typically thought of as being the 'Rhondda', and some of the richest Rhondda coal seams ran through there, these were exploited before many of the pits were sunk in the 'Rhondda' 4.) While south of this (with the exception of Trefforest Iron & Steal Works and the Dynea coal levels above Rhydyfelin, there was comparatively little industry as per the area to the west of Trefforest Estate (Church Village, Llantwit Fardre etc).
With regard to Trehafod this is another difficuilt one. If you weren't to accept Hopkinstown etc as part of the Rhondda then neither can you accept Trehafod, since the Rhondda Fawr pass both and it isn't until Porth (the 'gateway' to the Rhondda as you know) that the Rhondda Valley is thought to begin in earnest, in some respects this would be the logical cut-off between Pontypridd and the Rhondda. Trehafod has always been debated as to whether it is within Pontypridd or the Rhondda or simply between the two, it all depends on your standpoint.
People actually living along the Rhondda Fawr will classify themselves according to whether they want to be considered associated with Ponty or a resident of Rhondda I suppose, but the fact that these communities are alongside the banks/overlooking the Rhonnda Fawr means that they must be within the Rhondda Valley, and yet these are within walking distance of the town centre and their existence dependant of the town and I would therefore also consider them part of Pontypridd.
Like I say, the easiest thing would be to either seperate at Porth or north/west of the park. Another contentious one is where does Ponty town end and Treforest begin, also is Treforest Industrial Estate part of Ponty given that prior to construction of the estate this was rural land which formed a break between 'Pontypridd' and the lower Taff Vale (Nantgarw/Gwaelod-y-Garth/Taffs Well/Creigiau/Pentyrch etc). If you manage to resolve all these then you've done better than countless people before you, good luck, I think you'll need it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.168.45.250 ( talk) 13:16, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Pontypridd's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "RCT1":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Pontypridd is a town with incredible swathes of history. Surely we can find someone who can further expand on this wonderful place?-- Monkeynuts2008 ( talk) 16:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
The 2nd edit of an IP whose other two were both pretty clearly in bad faith removed from Pontypridd#External links the following:
The site's sarcastic & IMO anti-social tone raise questions in my mind about its value, the ad for the site-builder who created it, and the prominent "Visit Our Sponsors" appeal do suggest to me that the remover's description of the lk as "spam" may be justified. Others in a better position (than i who 30 minutes ago knew not of Ponty's existence) to put it in perspective may want to consider whether reversion of the removal is in order.
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Cultural section should probably mention the museum:
©Geni ( talk) 03:48, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
@ CamT345345:, @ 81.100.79.216: you're inserting ridiculous stuff about records for eating peaches and time spent seat-warming, in the Sports section. WP is hard enough to maintain without it being used as a playground for a good laugh. This sort of editing is disruptive and likely to get you banned. But it is quite funny. But please stop. Elemimele ( talk) 21:18, 29 June 2021 (UTC)