![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||
|
![]() | The contents of the Polyunsaturated fat page were merged into Polyunsaturated fat and it now redirects there. For the contribution history and old versions of the merged article please see its history. |
![]() | On 31 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Polyunsaturated fatty acid to Polyunsaturated fat. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The material on this page was partly covered by several lists, on
I suggest that List of omega-3 fatty acids be wholly merged into this page, and that the tables in the 3/6/9 articles be replaced with See... links. David.Throop 17:52, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. I think it should rather be merged with the omega-3, although adding the Ω-3/Ω-6/Ω-9 tables to the polyunsat article is not a bad idea either simply so that all relevant information is given to each page. However merging with polyunsat should only be done if it isn't already huge. If it's growing too large, they should only be stuck in with their respective type articles. - AeoniosHaplo 08:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Many more people will look up omega-3 fatty acids than will look up polyunsaturated fatty acids. If there is cross referencing at the end of the article people will find more information by keeping the entries separate. Ed Dratz —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.210.85.25 ( talk) 03:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC).
I really think these lists simply belong in the corresponding articles ( omega-3 fatty acid, conjugated fatty acid, etc.). These lists are all very short, there is no substantial information aside from the lists, and the corresponding articles all link to this article for an underwhelming amount of information. It doesn't make sense, given how massive the omega-3 article is, to omit something so basic as a list of the nine or so acids that occur in nature. I think there are too many fatty acid articles as it is; it's all very uncoordinated. This article's existence makes especially little sense because the article polyunsaturated fat lists "polyunsaturated fatty acid" as a synonym, and so you have two articles with essentially the same name, and this article includes fatty acids that aren't polyunsaturated. If you want a list article, it should be "list of fatty acids" and be all-encompassing. This alone doesn't really work. — Werson ( talk) 05:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a grad student in Nutrition Science, and came to Wikipedia looking for basic information about fats for a handout I'm putting together. I started poking around, and saw the list on this page. I was wondering why Pinolenic and Podocarpic acids are not listed among the Omega-6's, since they are n-6? On other [non-wikipedia] webpages, they are considered Omega-6, but even if Wikipedia has better information, it seems like it needs some sort of explaination. Gthorne ( talk) 15:16, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
so... do omega-12 fatty acids exist? just wondering. I'm a chemist not a biochemist... ( Pelirojopajaro ( talk) 20:21, 28 October 2008 (UTC))
One sometimes reads references to long-chain PUFAs (which I've seen abbreviated both LC-PUFAs and as LCPUFAs). Could someone with the proper expertise add something about this category here, perhaps indicating which of the PUFAs listed fall into that category? Note also that the article on Essential_fatty_acid describes this categorization to some extent. -- Ericjs ( talk) 14:30, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
The redirect
PCSO-524 has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 28 § PCSO-524 until a consensus is reached.
Mdewman6 (
talk)
23:27, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Zippybonzo | talk to me | what have I done (he|she|they) 18:46, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
Polyunsaturated fatty acid → Polyunsaturated fat – Polyunsaturated fat is the WP:COMMONNAME used by the majority. Lead section can be altered accordingly. Also this will be in contrast with Monounsaturated fat article, where Monounsaturated fatty acid is a redirect to that page. Crashed greek ( talk) 08:16, 31 August 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:39, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Now that it seems decided, if not implemented, that information covering each type of Fat and the corresponding set of Fatty acids should form a single, combined article, named according to the Fat rather than the Fatty acids, it needs to be decided what editing of the articles is needed to describe the types of fat adequately. The starting point should be to describe the article subject correctly. For example, in MUF, the statement "Monounsaturated fats are triglycerides containing one unsaturated fatty acid." is wrong. Triglycerides with 1, 2 or 3 MUFAs all contribute to MUF, only in differing amounts. The articles on SF (Saturated fat), MUF and PUF make no mention at all of the legal definitions of the terms, as mandated for the nutritional labelling of foods, although these are precise. These have minor variations, for example between the US and Europe, but these definitions should be clear as they determine the information most seen by consumers. These defined terms also include Total fat (TF). TF redirects to Fat, an article that emphasises that Fat can have varying meanings. TF is mentioned several times in the article, but is undefined.
Apart from definitions, much further editing is needed in the articles relating to fats. For example, in PFA#Reactions, how many edits are required in the paragraph "Hydrogenation of PUFAs gives less saturated derivatives. For unsaturated products from partial hydrogenation often contain some trans isomers. The trans monounsaturated C20 species elaidic acid can be prepared in this way."? The articles in this area are important and do need further attention. Douglian30 ( talk) 20:04, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Since lipid peroxidation targets moreso polyunsaturated fatty acids and damages the cell membrane, while possibly producing mutagenic and carcinogenic end-products, it is a reasonable idea to add this to the section related to health. The already mentioned oxidative deterioration and the free radical chain reaction is very vague, and does not give a full picture. With a section on the pros, it is reasonable to have also a section on the cons. Brentleyland ( talk) 14:24, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||
|
![]() | The contents of the Polyunsaturated fat page were merged into Polyunsaturated fat and it now redirects there. For the contribution history and old versions of the merged article please see its history. |
![]() | On 31 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Polyunsaturated fatty acid to Polyunsaturated fat. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The material on this page was partly covered by several lists, on
I suggest that List of omega-3 fatty acids be wholly merged into this page, and that the tables in the 3/6/9 articles be replaced with See... links. David.Throop 17:52, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. I think it should rather be merged with the omega-3, although adding the Ω-3/Ω-6/Ω-9 tables to the polyunsat article is not a bad idea either simply so that all relevant information is given to each page. However merging with polyunsat should only be done if it isn't already huge. If it's growing too large, they should only be stuck in with their respective type articles. - AeoniosHaplo 08:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Many more people will look up omega-3 fatty acids than will look up polyunsaturated fatty acids. If there is cross referencing at the end of the article people will find more information by keeping the entries separate. Ed Dratz —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.210.85.25 ( talk) 03:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC).
I really think these lists simply belong in the corresponding articles ( omega-3 fatty acid, conjugated fatty acid, etc.). These lists are all very short, there is no substantial information aside from the lists, and the corresponding articles all link to this article for an underwhelming amount of information. It doesn't make sense, given how massive the omega-3 article is, to omit something so basic as a list of the nine or so acids that occur in nature. I think there are too many fatty acid articles as it is; it's all very uncoordinated. This article's existence makes especially little sense because the article polyunsaturated fat lists "polyunsaturated fatty acid" as a synonym, and so you have two articles with essentially the same name, and this article includes fatty acids that aren't polyunsaturated. If you want a list article, it should be "list of fatty acids" and be all-encompassing. This alone doesn't really work. — Werson ( talk) 05:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a grad student in Nutrition Science, and came to Wikipedia looking for basic information about fats for a handout I'm putting together. I started poking around, and saw the list on this page. I was wondering why Pinolenic and Podocarpic acids are not listed among the Omega-6's, since they are n-6? On other [non-wikipedia] webpages, they are considered Omega-6, but even if Wikipedia has better information, it seems like it needs some sort of explaination. Gthorne ( talk) 15:16, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
so... do omega-12 fatty acids exist? just wondering. I'm a chemist not a biochemist... ( Pelirojopajaro ( talk) 20:21, 28 October 2008 (UTC))
One sometimes reads references to long-chain PUFAs (which I've seen abbreviated both LC-PUFAs and as LCPUFAs). Could someone with the proper expertise add something about this category here, perhaps indicating which of the PUFAs listed fall into that category? Note also that the article on Essential_fatty_acid describes this categorization to some extent. -- Ericjs ( talk) 14:30, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
The redirect
PCSO-524 has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 28 § PCSO-524 until a consensus is reached.
Mdewman6 (
talk)
23:27, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Zippybonzo | talk to me | what have I done (he|she|they) 18:46, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
Polyunsaturated fatty acid → Polyunsaturated fat – Polyunsaturated fat is the WP:COMMONNAME used by the majority. Lead section can be altered accordingly. Also this will be in contrast with Monounsaturated fat article, where Monounsaturated fatty acid is a redirect to that page. Crashed greek ( talk) 08:16, 31 August 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:39, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Now that it seems decided, if not implemented, that information covering each type of Fat and the corresponding set of Fatty acids should form a single, combined article, named according to the Fat rather than the Fatty acids, it needs to be decided what editing of the articles is needed to describe the types of fat adequately. The starting point should be to describe the article subject correctly. For example, in MUF, the statement "Monounsaturated fats are triglycerides containing one unsaturated fatty acid." is wrong. Triglycerides with 1, 2 or 3 MUFAs all contribute to MUF, only in differing amounts. The articles on SF (Saturated fat), MUF and PUF make no mention at all of the legal definitions of the terms, as mandated for the nutritional labelling of foods, although these are precise. These have minor variations, for example between the US and Europe, but these definitions should be clear as they determine the information most seen by consumers. These defined terms also include Total fat (TF). TF redirects to Fat, an article that emphasises that Fat can have varying meanings. TF is mentioned several times in the article, but is undefined.
Apart from definitions, much further editing is needed in the articles relating to fats. For example, in PFA#Reactions, how many edits are required in the paragraph "Hydrogenation of PUFAs gives less saturated derivatives. For unsaturated products from partial hydrogenation often contain some trans isomers. The trans monounsaturated C20 species elaidic acid can be prepared in this way."? The articles in this area are important and do need further attention. Douglian30 ( talk) 20:04, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Since lipid peroxidation targets moreso polyunsaturated fatty acids and damages the cell membrane, while possibly producing mutagenic and carcinogenic end-products, it is a reasonable idea to add this to the section related to health. The already mentioned oxidative deterioration and the free radical chain reaction is very vague, and does not give a full picture. With a section on the pros, it is reasonable to have also a section on the cons. Brentleyland ( talk) 14:24, 13 September 2023 (UTC)