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I think this is a rather obvious dicdef - a dawn raid is a raid, at dawn - and the article as it is seems like a rather POV list of arrests that happen to have occurred at dawn. Surely raids at dawn have been used in many countries, for many kinds of arrests, and not just in the UK and New Zealand? And ever since the dawn of law enforcement itself? Brianyoumans 09:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't mean to start a dispute with this, or associate current law enforcement tactics with nasty things, but it's probably worth mentioning that dawn raids have long been a favorite tactic of totalitarian regimes, often the first act of what culminates in a political disappearance. The gestapo was famed for them, as the obvious example, and many others learned from it
from Investopedia:
The action of a firm or investor buying a substantial amount of shares in a company (making it a target firm) first thing in the morning when the stock markets open. This is done by a stock broker acting on behalf of a company. Because the bidding company builds a substantial stake in its target at the prevailing stock market price, the takeover costs are likely to be significantly lower than they would be had the acquiring company first made a formal takeover bid.
With this definition, there would be three meanings. Time for a disambiguation page?
Jer ome ( talk) 19:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a dictionary. This article is crap, from the beginning till the end. "Dawn Raids by Country" - mixed with some stereotypical bullshit like Germany using it for deporting immigrants - its not the SS anymore, we're in the 21st century now. Dawn raids are a common thing and not only applied to immigrants, but also to crimes of all sorts - let it be theft, burglary, drug trafficing or anything else they need additional evidence for. This is the worst and most useless article Ive ever seen on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.241.164.249 ( talk) 22:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Everything in this article past the lede appears to fall foul of one or both of the policies. It contains precious little information about how police forces conduct raids. Instead presenting an essay discussing New Zealand's 1970s immigration policies, before slipping into a list of people detained during raids in the US and UK. The list of UK detainees also seems to provide undue weight to cases of raids conducted for immigration enforcement.
Some of the information could be cleaned up and incorporated into Illegal immigration. But this particular article clearly needs more details about how raids are conducted by various police forces and fewer about legal and social issues only tangentially related to them. 203.97.181.188 ( talk) 04:40, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
The New Zealand section warrants being a seperate article, say Dawn Raids, New Zealand (will look at that). Probably enough in the other articles to warrant an overall article? Hugo999 ( talk) 05:39, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
The New Zealand Dawn Raids are a specific historical events - this should be it's own article rather than included in police raids in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.154.14.164 ( talk) 09:02, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Despite reluctance of some news sources to use the term, the definition of raid clearly fits thr Trump case. The lead has a checklist of thing defining raid. Here are the qualifications for raid and how Trump meeets all of them
The visit was unexpected per an article from bloomberg(run by a guy that has the same negitive opinons of trump as me) https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-08-09/fbi-raid-on-trump-s-mar-a-lago-three-legal-takeaways
FBI is law enforcement, read here for more info Federal Bureau of Investigation
See Above.
The bloomberg source as well as pretty much other all other sources say evidence was seized
DO NOT RE-ADD UNTIL CONSENSUS IS REACHED Cookiegator ( talk) 19:29, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Also many sources are calling it raid
I want to give 675930s credit for this list Cookiegator ( talk) 19:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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I think this is a rather obvious dicdef - a dawn raid is a raid, at dawn - and the article as it is seems like a rather POV list of arrests that happen to have occurred at dawn. Surely raids at dawn have been used in many countries, for many kinds of arrests, and not just in the UK and New Zealand? And ever since the dawn of law enforcement itself? Brianyoumans 09:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't mean to start a dispute with this, or associate current law enforcement tactics with nasty things, but it's probably worth mentioning that dawn raids have long been a favorite tactic of totalitarian regimes, often the first act of what culminates in a political disappearance. The gestapo was famed for them, as the obvious example, and many others learned from it
from Investopedia:
The action of a firm or investor buying a substantial amount of shares in a company (making it a target firm) first thing in the morning when the stock markets open. This is done by a stock broker acting on behalf of a company. Because the bidding company builds a substantial stake in its target at the prevailing stock market price, the takeover costs are likely to be significantly lower than they would be had the acquiring company first made a formal takeover bid.
With this definition, there would be three meanings. Time for a disambiguation page?
Jer ome ( talk) 19:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a dictionary. This article is crap, from the beginning till the end. "Dawn Raids by Country" - mixed with some stereotypical bullshit like Germany using it for deporting immigrants - its not the SS anymore, we're in the 21st century now. Dawn raids are a common thing and not only applied to immigrants, but also to crimes of all sorts - let it be theft, burglary, drug trafficing or anything else they need additional evidence for. This is the worst and most useless article Ive ever seen on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.241.164.249 ( talk) 22:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Everything in this article past the lede appears to fall foul of one or both of the policies. It contains precious little information about how police forces conduct raids. Instead presenting an essay discussing New Zealand's 1970s immigration policies, before slipping into a list of people detained during raids in the US and UK. The list of UK detainees also seems to provide undue weight to cases of raids conducted for immigration enforcement.
Some of the information could be cleaned up and incorporated into Illegal immigration. But this particular article clearly needs more details about how raids are conducted by various police forces and fewer about legal and social issues only tangentially related to them. 203.97.181.188 ( talk) 04:40, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
The New Zealand section warrants being a seperate article, say Dawn Raids, New Zealand (will look at that). Probably enough in the other articles to warrant an overall article? Hugo999 ( talk) 05:39, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
The New Zealand Dawn Raids are a specific historical events - this should be it's own article rather than included in police raids in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.154.14.164 ( talk) 09:02, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Despite reluctance of some news sources to use the term, the definition of raid clearly fits thr Trump case. The lead has a checklist of thing defining raid. Here are the qualifications for raid and how Trump meeets all of them
The visit was unexpected per an article from bloomberg(run by a guy that has the same negitive opinons of trump as me) https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-08-09/fbi-raid-on-trump-s-mar-a-lago-three-legal-takeaways
FBI is law enforcement, read here for more info Federal Bureau of Investigation
See Above.
The bloomberg source as well as pretty much other all other sources say evidence was seized
DO NOT RE-ADD UNTIL CONSENSUS IS REACHED Cookiegator ( talk) 19:29, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Also many sources are calling it raid
I want to give 675930s credit for this list Cookiegator ( talk) 19:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)