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I just psted a question about some Dendrobates images on Talk:Frog. It appears at least one of them is misclassified. - Samsara contrib talk 23:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Someone disambiguated the fruit flies link (in Toxicity) to point to Tephritidae. However, the Tephritidae content indicates that Drosophilia are not members of Tephritidae.
See, the thing is, the vast majority of captive dart frogs are fed either Drosophilia melanogaster or Drosophilia hydeii, chosen specifically because there are flightless varieties available (these frogs do not hunt flying insects well).
I'm fixing the link.-- Leperflesh 02:05, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
i think we should mention that while poison dart frog as pets are becoming quite popular, it is extremely wrong and almost always extracted from their natural habitats illegaly, and could even present a danger to local populations since amphibious habitats are receding at an alarming pace, this sort of activity only makes it worse
Unless someone objects, I intend to extract the comprehensive and long list of species, and make a new page for them - "List of Dendrobatid Species" or maybe "List of Poison Dart Frog Species". Some other wiki articles about families tend to export long lists of species in this manner. Really each list of species belongs in its relevant genera page, but many genera pages don't exist yet either. Any objections? -- Leperflesh 01:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
There is a new review around here. Very comprehensive, very long and technical. I have started with out-commenting Aromobatidae fam. nov. genera from genus list and added the new Dendrobatidae genera. Genera Cryptophyllobates and Nephelobates are synonymized in review; not corrected in these articles but remarked on Talk pages (accepting these genera creates paraphyly issues in others). Family assignment of extant Aromobatidae pages has been adjusted. Distri map might need reworking, but I'm not really a frog person. Dig away! Dysmorodrepanis 12:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
In attempting to research Minyobates genus, it seems this genus may be synonymous with the Dentrobates genus. See: Amphibian Species of the World. Note also that in addition to Minyobates steyermarki, we have Dendrobates steyermarki. this page lists 8 Dendrobates species, each with the synonym Minyobates. However, that they list only 8 of the (at least) 40 Dendrobates species indicates this reference is incomplete. Dendrobates synonymy reference (again from Amphibian Species of the World) again indicates that 'Minyobates' is circa 1987, Myers, but that "This synonymy considered tentative by Daly, Garraffo, Spande, Clark, Ma, and Ziffer, 2003, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA, 100: 11095.".
It would seem that members of Dendrobatidae are under some degree of taxonomic flux, these last couple of decades. What should Wikipedia pages do, when there is controversy over taxonomy? -- Leperflesh 23:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I have noticed that nearly all the species' articles within this family are named by their scientific name. According to the Tree of Life naming conventions, articles should be named by their common name. If no common name is available, then they should be named by their scientific name. I would like to reach a consensus in the one place, so as to not split up the conversation. If we reach consensus, I will move the articles. Anyway, here are the articles, and what I wish to name them:
I got these common names either from the article, IUCN or AMNH.
If you have any problem with a specific name, but you are OK with the rest, could you support (with the exception in brackets), and discuss the exception here. Thanks -- liquidGhoul 00:11, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
All the articles have been moved. Thanks -- liquidGhoul 05:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Are there any animals capable of eating these little guys?
It would be funny if a poison arrow frog bit itself. Or canabalism. (Anoynomous) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zappo123456789 ( talk • contribs) 07:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
More pictures on the "Golden Poison Frog" article would be nice. Zantaggerung 15:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Please revert this page to before the last edit. Thank you.
There are some growing problems with "hearsay" creeping into the article. I have removed a couple of things that were certainly wrong (that there are dart frogs from "several continents" aside from central and south america, for example) and added "citation needed" to some more "facts" that I'm pretty sure are wrong. I also edited the first paragraph to account for all current or proposed taxonomies, and to match with the current taxobox ordering.
The section on care of dart frogs is, I think, problematic because the proper care of the various species varies too much to be captured well. Some of the behavior and sexing information is definitely wrong for some species, so I added some language to clarify that. For example, D. leucomelas males do not expand a throat sac when singing and thus cannot be identified by such a feature. Not all females of all species of dendrobatids are as aggressively territorial as is presented, nor do all males guard eggs as diligently as is implied.
Let's try to keep this article applicable to the entire family of animals, and leave the really tight specifics of behavior and care to the species-specific pages? -- Leperflesh 01:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
The "colour morphs" section [now re-named "Subspecies and morphs"] need a review. Subspecies are not the same as morphs, and using the term "subspecies morphs" is incorrect (if in doubt over subspecies versus morphs; check wiki articles linked). Unfortunately, I do not know this group of frogs particularly well, and am therefore unable to say if the variations mentioned is correctly described as morphs or subspecies, but determining which is correct should be fairly easy for someone with more extensive knowledge of this group. 212.10.82.42 22:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not very knowledgeable about dendrobatid taxonomy, but the taxobox here is strange. Specifically, it includes proposed subfamilies, proposed genera, and even proposed invalid genera, as if these taxa were in some sort of limbo. That's not really an option. If this is the latest thinking, then these names should be used in the box without the "proposed" wording. If the names are from a fringe source or researcher, it may be appropriate to indicate, perhaps with an asterisk/reference, that they are not yet widely accepted. Tim Ross· talk 15:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree that the taxobox is confusing. In 2006, a large paper (Grant et al, Phylogenetic systematics of dart-poison frogs and their relatives (Amphibia: Athesphatanura: Dendrobatidae)) outlined a major revision to the taxonomy for poison frogs. The 'proposed' classifications in the current taxobox reflect the changes made in the paper. I would like to update the taxobox to reflect Grant et al, and audit related pages to update the scientific names to the new system. What do you think? -- Aes123 ( talk) 14:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
--1. Article introduces Poison Dart Frogs as poison frogs, but later states that none of the "poison frogs" capable of dart/arrow-death are not of the Dendrobates genus (aka poison frog). I think there's a mix up of "poison[ous] frogs" and "poison [dart] frogs".
Also confusing with the number of species: 175+ or 150?
--2. a. "In actuality, of over 175 species of poison frog, only three are toxic enough to use for this purpose..."
Again with the poisonous vs. dart
b. This is probably a misunderstanding on my part, but if dart frogs can "kill a human by touch alone", why aren't they toxic enough to taint arrows/darts effectively?
--3. Characteristics are splattered all over the first two paragraphs. Name origins are mixed up with appearance, mixed up with toxicity. I think to flow better, it could go like this:
Introduce name/scientificb or a nickname and habitat ==> appearance, colors leading into ==> poison
I'm not sure where the name origin should go, but if it were short, it could go with the first few sentences. However, if one to were expand on the erroneous belief regarding darts/arrows, it might be better suited near the poison, as it would lead to another article.
That's about it. Just suggestions, grain of salt, etc. kthxbai
69.249.54.4 ( talk) 05:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC) the poison dart frog has colors to warn predaters not to eat them.
"They lay their eggs in moist ground..." I keep seeing people injecting husbandry information that is, at best, only correct for a handful of species. Most dart frog species do not lay their eggs in the dirt. PLEASE try to keep your updates to information which is true and applicable to all frogs in Dendrobatidae... and cite your sources. -- Leperflesh ( talk) 23:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I will be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have the full review up soon. Dana boomer ( talk) 18:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
At the moment, there are some major referencing issues in this article, so I am putting the article on hold until these can be addressed. Due to the referencing issues, I have not completed a full check of the prose; I will do this when I see that referencing is proceeding. Drop me a note here on the review page or on my talk page if you have any questions. Dana boomer ( talk) 19:17, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I have fixed up all of the questionable content in your review. Please take a look. StevePrutz ( talk) 00:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
These are great articles!
These are great articles! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.212.221 ( talk) 19:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Just wondering, but why is the lede a mild diatribe against the injustice of calling them poison dart frogs?
I came here from the strawberry poison-dart frog article after researching the phrase "red frog" on Google. There are businesses, events, products, based on the creature. I found a little plastic realistic-looking red frog with black markings somebody had dropped; hence my curiosity. I was surprised to see that there is no photo of the strawberry poison-dart frog in this article, no mention of it in the body of the article, yet the name appears in SIX references. I would like to propose that a regular editor here include a photo of the strawberry poison-dart frog or at least include a Wiki link to its article. 5Q5 ( talk) 15:14, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
in the second paragraph of the section it was said that "his study found that polymorphic poison dart frogs that are less conspicuous are more toxic in comparison to the brightest and most conspicuous species." this was by Wang and Shaffer (2011), however there is another article that contradicts this and a study was done that says the poison from blander frogs was less potent than that of more colorful frogs. this article was from http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-do-tropical-frogs-get-their-stunning-colors-712275/?all
Another note when it comes to sexual selection it is also said that females prefer males with the shiniest skin, so perhaps this could be another piece to mention.
Also there can be many different colors among the species that can eventually become consistent within an area. A study was done in the Amazon forest with 2 colonies of frogs only ten kilometers apart, it showed how if a frog does not recognize a certain pattern or color of the frog it will attack thinking that it is prey. Eventually all the frogs will become one color or pattern after time of realizing they are all essentially the same. http://www.nouvelles.umontreal.ca/udem-news/news/20111121-predators-drive-the-evolution-of-poison-dart-frogs-skin-patterns.html
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In the intro paragraph, the fifth sentence reads as such: "The species that have great toxicity, derive this from their diet of ants, mites and termites." However, it isn't grammatically correct. It should read as such: "The species that have great toxicity derive this from their diet of ants, mites and termites." Sgtbossman ( talk) 20:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Most anurans have a unique way of detecting their environment through their smell. They have an organ called the olfactory bulb, which allows them to discriminate odors and detect their environment based on the different smells that surround them. Their smell is not necessarily used to find food, but specifically allows them to detect when predators may be approaching, which is useful for when they are watching over their young or protecting themselves. The olfactory sense is also useful in finding mates in the colorful rainforest as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agallegos2 ( talk • contribs) 00:04, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
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hi there id like to input that some poison dart frogs have enough poison to kill 2000 people 87.35.25.19 ( talk) 10:33, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I'm new so I'm hoping I'm doing this right. In the intro, it says:
"These amphibians are often called "dart frogs" due to the Native Americans' indigenous use of their toxic secretions to poison the tips of blowdarts."
I thought the phrase "Native Americans' indigenous use" should be something more like "the indigenous peoples' use", or "indigenous Native Americans' use" [1] Unless I'm misunderstanding the proper way to use the terms. Thanks very much. JonathanHawthorn ( talk) 21:56, 24 July 2020 (UTC)JonathanHawthorn July 24 2020
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poison dart frog are highly poisonous and taste disgusting when eaten . they tend to be very brightly coloured IRONMANX3 ( talk) 08:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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I am a student of Washington University in Saint Louis. I am a student in the behavioral ecology class. I have done a great deal of research in the poison dart frog. I would not like to change any previous work. I would like to simply add information. I have a few paragraphs about general behavior, mating behavior, diet, and chemical defense, and a few other subjects. I also have 7 references I would like to add. Yarlagaddas ( talk) 20:04, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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I am following up. I would like to add content about behavior, diet, and parental care about the Dendrobate family. I am a student at Washington University in Saint Louis in a Behavioral Ecology class and am trying to contribute for school work. Yarlagaddas ( talk) 19:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Added subsections such as conspicuousness, aposematism, and other factors to “Evolution of skin coloration and toxicity” and reorganized sections. I added more information under mating section such as visual cues and courtship length. I noticed that in captive care section, citation is needed for the part that mentions the dart frog tends to live longer in captivity and captive ideal environments. Fixed minor grammar errors such as typos, run-on sentences and italicized species name. Emily486103 ( talk) 22:08, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
I changed a lot of the wording in some sections of the article. I also rewrote certain sentences to make the article flow better. I also added a citation to spot that needed it (the sentence that claims the golden poison frog can kill up to 10 men or 20,000 mice). ShawnMohammed ( talk) 07:36, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
I reorganized the last sentence of the second paragraph to make it clearer. Before the edit, the sentence structure was a little confusing because information about the plant was intertwined with information about the frog.
Word “unacceptable” changed to “dangerous” in the “Toxicity and Medicine” section. Unacceptable is more of a vague word and detracts from the potency of the toxin.
Moved the exposition under “Evolution of skin coloration and toxicity” to the “Aposematism” section to improve clarity in organizational structure.
Subsection titled “Visual cues” was removed and the information was embedded into the paragraph.
“Chemical Defense” section moved to “Toxicity” section to reduce redundancy.
Minor grammar changes and edits to make sentences more concise were made throughout the piece. For example, “The diet of the Dendrodates is one that is unique” was changed to the “The diet of the Dendrodates is unique.”
Overall, the article was well written and contained lots of interesting information. Organization could be improved, but other than that, it looks great! Jsun2148 ( talk) 00:27, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
I agree with many of the above edits! I think the edit that my peer left was well-written and well-researched. I think the article could benefit from some reorganization so it doesn't have 4 separate sections on behavior, but am unsure of how best to proceed with this. I did add an enemies section also. Britneys99 ( talk) 21:48, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
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in the [ dart frog page] there is a typo in the diet section “The second category of pretty are much rarer finds…” please change pretty to prey, thank you very much. Seanblair07 ( talk) 15:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Endogenous is the wrong definition for being produced outside the body, it should say exogenous. Dijon Djinn ( talk) 17:41, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
In the section talking about toxicity, the word endogenous is incorrectly used as that means to come from within the body. The correct term is exogenous. Rjones6045 ( talk) 16:45, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Dendrobates, which is a genus, was referred to several times as a family. I've corrected these to refer to Dendrobatidae instead since that's what the article seems to be about. However, these references might be inaccurate, so the article needs an expert on the topic to investigate and correct any errors. Hairy Dude ( talk) 00:09, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
I will guess that about 400 are alive (PROJECT): go to Columbia and save golden poison dart frogs from extinction! 115.70.173.50 ( talk) 03:55, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
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I just psted a question about some Dendrobates images on Talk:Frog. It appears at least one of them is misclassified. - Samsara contrib talk 23:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Someone disambiguated the fruit flies link (in Toxicity) to point to Tephritidae. However, the Tephritidae content indicates that Drosophilia are not members of Tephritidae.
See, the thing is, the vast majority of captive dart frogs are fed either Drosophilia melanogaster or Drosophilia hydeii, chosen specifically because there are flightless varieties available (these frogs do not hunt flying insects well).
I'm fixing the link.-- Leperflesh 02:05, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
i think we should mention that while poison dart frog as pets are becoming quite popular, it is extremely wrong and almost always extracted from their natural habitats illegaly, and could even present a danger to local populations since amphibious habitats are receding at an alarming pace, this sort of activity only makes it worse
Unless someone objects, I intend to extract the comprehensive and long list of species, and make a new page for them - "List of Dendrobatid Species" or maybe "List of Poison Dart Frog Species". Some other wiki articles about families tend to export long lists of species in this manner. Really each list of species belongs in its relevant genera page, but many genera pages don't exist yet either. Any objections? -- Leperflesh 01:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
There is a new review around here. Very comprehensive, very long and technical. I have started with out-commenting Aromobatidae fam. nov. genera from genus list and added the new Dendrobatidae genera. Genera Cryptophyllobates and Nephelobates are synonymized in review; not corrected in these articles but remarked on Talk pages (accepting these genera creates paraphyly issues in others). Family assignment of extant Aromobatidae pages has been adjusted. Distri map might need reworking, but I'm not really a frog person. Dig away! Dysmorodrepanis 12:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
In attempting to research Minyobates genus, it seems this genus may be synonymous with the Dentrobates genus. See: Amphibian Species of the World. Note also that in addition to Minyobates steyermarki, we have Dendrobates steyermarki. this page lists 8 Dendrobates species, each with the synonym Minyobates. However, that they list only 8 of the (at least) 40 Dendrobates species indicates this reference is incomplete. Dendrobates synonymy reference (again from Amphibian Species of the World) again indicates that 'Minyobates' is circa 1987, Myers, but that "This synonymy considered tentative by Daly, Garraffo, Spande, Clark, Ma, and Ziffer, 2003, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA, 100: 11095.".
It would seem that members of Dendrobatidae are under some degree of taxonomic flux, these last couple of decades. What should Wikipedia pages do, when there is controversy over taxonomy? -- Leperflesh 23:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I have noticed that nearly all the species' articles within this family are named by their scientific name. According to the Tree of Life naming conventions, articles should be named by their common name. If no common name is available, then they should be named by their scientific name. I would like to reach a consensus in the one place, so as to not split up the conversation. If we reach consensus, I will move the articles. Anyway, here are the articles, and what I wish to name them:
I got these common names either from the article, IUCN or AMNH.
If you have any problem with a specific name, but you are OK with the rest, could you support (with the exception in brackets), and discuss the exception here. Thanks -- liquidGhoul 00:11, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
All the articles have been moved. Thanks -- liquidGhoul 05:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Are there any animals capable of eating these little guys?
It would be funny if a poison arrow frog bit itself. Or canabalism. (Anoynomous) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zappo123456789 ( talk • contribs) 07:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
More pictures on the "Golden Poison Frog" article would be nice. Zantaggerung 15:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Please revert this page to before the last edit. Thank you.
There are some growing problems with "hearsay" creeping into the article. I have removed a couple of things that were certainly wrong (that there are dart frogs from "several continents" aside from central and south america, for example) and added "citation needed" to some more "facts" that I'm pretty sure are wrong. I also edited the first paragraph to account for all current or proposed taxonomies, and to match with the current taxobox ordering.
The section on care of dart frogs is, I think, problematic because the proper care of the various species varies too much to be captured well. Some of the behavior and sexing information is definitely wrong for some species, so I added some language to clarify that. For example, D. leucomelas males do not expand a throat sac when singing and thus cannot be identified by such a feature. Not all females of all species of dendrobatids are as aggressively territorial as is presented, nor do all males guard eggs as diligently as is implied.
Let's try to keep this article applicable to the entire family of animals, and leave the really tight specifics of behavior and care to the species-specific pages? -- Leperflesh 01:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
The "colour morphs" section [now re-named "Subspecies and morphs"] need a review. Subspecies are not the same as morphs, and using the term "subspecies morphs" is incorrect (if in doubt over subspecies versus morphs; check wiki articles linked). Unfortunately, I do not know this group of frogs particularly well, and am therefore unable to say if the variations mentioned is correctly described as morphs or subspecies, but determining which is correct should be fairly easy for someone with more extensive knowledge of this group. 212.10.82.42 22:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not very knowledgeable about dendrobatid taxonomy, but the taxobox here is strange. Specifically, it includes proposed subfamilies, proposed genera, and even proposed invalid genera, as if these taxa were in some sort of limbo. That's not really an option. If this is the latest thinking, then these names should be used in the box without the "proposed" wording. If the names are from a fringe source or researcher, it may be appropriate to indicate, perhaps with an asterisk/reference, that they are not yet widely accepted. Tim Ross· talk 15:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree that the taxobox is confusing. In 2006, a large paper (Grant et al, Phylogenetic systematics of dart-poison frogs and their relatives (Amphibia: Athesphatanura: Dendrobatidae)) outlined a major revision to the taxonomy for poison frogs. The 'proposed' classifications in the current taxobox reflect the changes made in the paper. I would like to update the taxobox to reflect Grant et al, and audit related pages to update the scientific names to the new system. What do you think? -- Aes123 ( talk) 14:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
--1. Article introduces Poison Dart Frogs as poison frogs, but later states that none of the "poison frogs" capable of dart/arrow-death are not of the Dendrobates genus (aka poison frog). I think there's a mix up of "poison[ous] frogs" and "poison [dart] frogs".
Also confusing with the number of species: 175+ or 150?
--2. a. "In actuality, of over 175 species of poison frog, only three are toxic enough to use for this purpose..."
Again with the poisonous vs. dart
b. This is probably a misunderstanding on my part, but if dart frogs can "kill a human by touch alone", why aren't they toxic enough to taint arrows/darts effectively?
--3. Characteristics are splattered all over the first two paragraphs. Name origins are mixed up with appearance, mixed up with toxicity. I think to flow better, it could go like this:
Introduce name/scientificb or a nickname and habitat ==> appearance, colors leading into ==> poison
I'm not sure where the name origin should go, but if it were short, it could go with the first few sentences. However, if one to were expand on the erroneous belief regarding darts/arrows, it might be better suited near the poison, as it would lead to another article.
That's about it. Just suggestions, grain of salt, etc. kthxbai
69.249.54.4 ( talk) 05:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC) the poison dart frog has colors to warn predaters not to eat them.
"They lay their eggs in moist ground..." I keep seeing people injecting husbandry information that is, at best, only correct for a handful of species. Most dart frog species do not lay their eggs in the dirt. PLEASE try to keep your updates to information which is true and applicable to all frogs in Dendrobatidae... and cite your sources. -- Leperflesh ( talk) 23:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I will be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have the full review up soon. Dana boomer ( talk) 18:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
At the moment, there are some major referencing issues in this article, so I am putting the article on hold until these can be addressed. Due to the referencing issues, I have not completed a full check of the prose; I will do this when I see that referencing is proceeding. Drop me a note here on the review page or on my talk page if you have any questions. Dana boomer ( talk) 19:17, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I have fixed up all of the questionable content in your review. Please take a look. StevePrutz ( talk) 00:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
These are great articles!
These are great articles! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.212.221 ( talk) 19:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Just wondering, but why is the lede a mild diatribe against the injustice of calling them poison dart frogs?
I came here from the strawberry poison-dart frog article after researching the phrase "red frog" on Google. There are businesses, events, products, based on the creature. I found a little plastic realistic-looking red frog with black markings somebody had dropped; hence my curiosity. I was surprised to see that there is no photo of the strawberry poison-dart frog in this article, no mention of it in the body of the article, yet the name appears in SIX references. I would like to propose that a regular editor here include a photo of the strawberry poison-dart frog or at least include a Wiki link to its article. 5Q5 ( talk) 15:14, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
in the second paragraph of the section it was said that "his study found that polymorphic poison dart frogs that are less conspicuous are more toxic in comparison to the brightest and most conspicuous species." this was by Wang and Shaffer (2011), however there is another article that contradicts this and a study was done that says the poison from blander frogs was less potent than that of more colorful frogs. this article was from http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-do-tropical-frogs-get-their-stunning-colors-712275/?all
Another note when it comes to sexual selection it is also said that females prefer males with the shiniest skin, so perhaps this could be another piece to mention.
Also there can be many different colors among the species that can eventually become consistent within an area. A study was done in the Amazon forest with 2 colonies of frogs only ten kilometers apart, it showed how if a frog does not recognize a certain pattern or color of the frog it will attack thinking that it is prey. Eventually all the frogs will become one color or pattern after time of realizing they are all essentially the same. http://www.nouvelles.umontreal.ca/udem-news/news/20111121-predators-drive-the-evolution-of-poison-dart-frogs-skin-patterns.html
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Food: Poision Dart Frogs eat meat, flies, ants, insects, spiders, and termites. Legoboygavin ( talk) 15:40, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
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In the intro paragraph, the fifth sentence reads as such: "The species that have great toxicity, derive this from their diet of ants, mites and termites." However, it isn't grammatically correct. It should read as such: "The species that have great toxicity derive this from their diet of ants, mites and termites." Sgtbossman ( talk) 20:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Most anurans have a unique way of detecting their environment through their smell. They have an organ called the olfactory bulb, which allows them to discriminate odors and detect their environment based on the different smells that surround them. Their smell is not necessarily used to find food, but specifically allows them to detect when predators may be approaching, which is useful for when they are watching over their young or protecting themselves. The olfactory sense is also useful in finding mates in the colorful rainforest as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agallegos2 ( talk • contribs) 00:04, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
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hi there id like to input that some poison dart frogs have enough poison to kill 2000 people 87.35.25.19 ( talk) 10:33, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I'm new so I'm hoping I'm doing this right. In the intro, it says:
"These amphibians are often called "dart frogs" due to the Native Americans' indigenous use of their toxic secretions to poison the tips of blowdarts."
I thought the phrase "Native Americans' indigenous use" should be something more like "the indigenous peoples' use", or "indigenous Native Americans' use" [1] Unless I'm misunderstanding the proper way to use the terms. Thanks very much. JonathanHawthorn ( talk) 21:56, 24 July 2020 (UTC)JonathanHawthorn July 24 2020
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poison dart frog are highly poisonous and taste disgusting when eaten . they tend to be very brightly coloured IRONMANX3 ( talk) 08:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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I am a student of Washington University in Saint Louis. I am a student in the behavioral ecology class. I have done a great deal of research in the poison dart frog. I would not like to change any previous work. I would like to simply add information. I have a few paragraphs about general behavior, mating behavior, diet, and chemical defense, and a few other subjects. I also have 7 references I would like to add. Yarlagaddas ( talk) 20:04, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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I am following up. I would like to add content about behavior, diet, and parental care about the Dendrobate family. I am a student at Washington University in Saint Louis in a Behavioral Ecology class and am trying to contribute for school work. Yarlagaddas ( talk) 19:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Added subsections such as conspicuousness, aposematism, and other factors to “Evolution of skin coloration and toxicity” and reorganized sections. I added more information under mating section such as visual cues and courtship length. I noticed that in captive care section, citation is needed for the part that mentions the dart frog tends to live longer in captivity and captive ideal environments. Fixed minor grammar errors such as typos, run-on sentences and italicized species name. Emily486103 ( talk) 22:08, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
I changed a lot of the wording in some sections of the article. I also rewrote certain sentences to make the article flow better. I also added a citation to spot that needed it (the sentence that claims the golden poison frog can kill up to 10 men or 20,000 mice). ShawnMohammed ( talk) 07:36, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
I reorganized the last sentence of the second paragraph to make it clearer. Before the edit, the sentence structure was a little confusing because information about the plant was intertwined with information about the frog.
Word “unacceptable” changed to “dangerous” in the “Toxicity and Medicine” section. Unacceptable is more of a vague word and detracts from the potency of the toxin.
Moved the exposition under “Evolution of skin coloration and toxicity” to the “Aposematism” section to improve clarity in organizational structure.
Subsection titled “Visual cues” was removed and the information was embedded into the paragraph.
“Chemical Defense” section moved to “Toxicity” section to reduce redundancy.
Minor grammar changes and edits to make sentences more concise were made throughout the piece. For example, “The diet of the Dendrodates is one that is unique” was changed to the “The diet of the Dendrodates is unique.”
Overall, the article was well written and contained lots of interesting information. Organization could be improved, but other than that, it looks great! Jsun2148 ( talk) 00:27, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
I agree with many of the above edits! I think the edit that my peer left was well-written and well-researched. I think the article could benefit from some reorganization so it doesn't have 4 separate sections on behavior, but am unsure of how best to proceed with this. I did add an enemies section also. Britneys99 ( talk) 21:48, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
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in the [ dart frog page] there is a typo in the diet section “The second category of pretty are much rarer finds…” please change pretty to prey, thank you very much. Seanblair07 ( talk) 15:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Endogenous is the wrong definition for being produced outside the body, it should say exogenous. Dijon Djinn ( talk) 17:41, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
In the section talking about toxicity, the word endogenous is incorrectly used as that means to come from within the body. The correct term is exogenous. Rjones6045 ( talk) 16:45, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Dendrobates, which is a genus, was referred to several times as a family. I've corrected these to refer to Dendrobatidae instead since that's what the article seems to be about. However, these references might be inaccurate, so the article needs an expert on the topic to investigate and correct any errors. Hairy Dude ( talk) 00:09, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
I will guess that about 400 are alive (PROJECT): go to Columbia and save golden poison dart frogs from extinction! 115.70.173.50 ( talk) 03:55, 14 July 2023 (UTC)