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I don't know much about the PS3 but I'm sure you guys and girls do. Would it be possible to put an asterik (*) by the games which are exclusive to the PS3? That would be cool because alot of people including myself don't know what games are exclusive
The Playstation 3's operating system uses 1 SPE and 196 MB of system memory during gameplay. This comment is just utter tripe. It is widely speculated that the upper limit of RAM used by the OS during gameplay is 96MB (64+32), but even that is not backed by any reliable sources. Seems like someone added a 1 to that speculation just for kicks. I have never seen the 196MB (also a very strange number for memory allocation) anywhere except for this very article. Please remove until the real numbers are known, or at least use the common speculation.
@ 2006-10-26T17:15Z
Has anyone given any thought to creating a page specifically for "objective" comparisons of the next generation consoles? At the very least, it may divert vandalism away from the primary PS3 page, and create a single place where comparisons of hardware, software, marketing strategies, supply amounts, etcetera can be discussed? 129.128.233.48 07:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Over on the Cell Microprocessor page, they state "Despite rumors, all seven SPEs are utilizable by games, according to the makers of Untold Legends who are using all seven SPEs." along with an appropriate citation to an interview. Can anyone double-check this, and should we incorporate it into the page when it gets unlocked? 129.128.233.48 00:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I add that someone at Sony called Wii and XB360 overpriced. I cited my source and all. Can I put it back in?-- [[User:NFAN3|NFAN3 "I try so hard to be a Uber Geek!"~Jason Fox]] 11:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
The Sony executive didn't call the Wii or 360 overpriced, he said they were expensive. He also said the PS3 was expensive, but the media websites took that part out to make his comment seem outrageous. It has no place in the Wikipedia article.
let's keep this concise. -- gatoatigrado 04:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Better yet, leave the whole thing out. I think it's best to present the console with its current achievements and merits, and let consumers decide if they want one console or another, multiple consoles, or no consoles. On second thought, a small note would be fine. All of the refutes I provided above perhaps give too much emphasis to one point. Avoid exact production numbers, we don't know for now. Leave the controller vibration issue for the other page. Compared to Microsoft (wifi cuts and hard drive cut for lower model), I think the ps3's loss of dual hdmi is rather irrelevant. Neither needs any mention though. -- gatoatigrado 04:37, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
revision 1
The high launch price of the PS3 has been subjected to criticism from analysts and developers.
The console has repeatedly been delayed, from Spring 2006 (ref) to November 17 (ref) and then for European customers to Spring 2007. Also, fewer PS3 consoles will be available at launch(ref) than originally expected (ref).
Criticism of the price by developers and/or publishers have been very few, so they're not quite worthy of mentioning. In fact, some publishers like Midway and Bandai Namco said it's reasonable at launch (and only at launch). I would certainly say that analyst and gamer crticism would be an appropriate addition, simply because it's been covered quite a bit. This isn't a brand new product per se, it's the successor of the most popular console of all time, and therefore the pricing issue is valid. But everything else, including dual HDMI and whatnot, aren't, simply because any piece of hardware is subject to change prior to its release. Consumer criticism based on one random article isn't quite valid in my opinion simply because the competitors to the console rely on sequels (or popular games) as well. The Wii is launching with a Zelda, while the Xbox 360's most anticipated game is Halo 3. That's not to say that the three consoles are void of original IP's. The source article cited did just that, with no mention of some of the origianl games that the PS3 library contains (Resistance, Eye of Judgement, Heavenly Sword etc.) , and simply mentioned original Wii titles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.12.150.231 ( talk • contribs) .
Im petitioning to remove any critcism section, until, I dont know, ITS ACTUALLY BEEN RELEASED
Evangelion883 01:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Another criticism of the ps3 is that it uses a motion sensing controller that is criticized because it is said to be a copy of the Nintendo's Wii Remote. 7llusion 13:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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this be included in the criticism section? --
86.141.107.165 10:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Sony has deniend that XFire will be the backbone of Playstation Network Platform. It will only be used for one game, at least initially.
Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=67590
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why are all the international retail prices exchanged into us dollars,isnt that a little biased? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.30.202.19 ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Please note that Wikipedia has a more stringent policy concerning etiquette than most other sites. Please realize that I do not intend to assume bad faith in your edits - suggested by your consistent use of "revert" - I was merely maintaining the page as determined by a previous discussion. incidentally I started a new us$ section, but didn't notice your comment above; that fault is mine and I apologize - but you never clicked on the link I left in the edit summary, I guess. Nothing is an excuse for impoliteness however. -- gatoatigrado 08:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
In regard to your comment about state taxes, we are trying to remove all pre-sale taxes for conversion purposes. I think you might be misunderstanding VAT taxes, as I was before I read the Wikipedia article. As I now understand it, US prices listed do not include taxes because all tax is added when the consumer makes the purchase. EU countries do this a bit better by adding tax incrementally, as each stage of business takes some profit, to make under the counter deals less lucrative. Thus, an incoming product already has taxes (and probably import duties as well, if someone could remove this too it would help). If the tax is the same, the consumer will end up paying the same amount, although the retail price will appear higher. If the sales tax is different, no one cares, the point is to remove all taxes and display regional price variation to display Sony's marketing of the PlayStation, not other countries' taxation policies. -- gatoatigrado 08:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I am "removing" vat taxes using the linear scalar User:Dpmarshall did for the Nintendo Wii. If this is inaccurate, please change it and tell me why here. Thanks. -- gatoatigrado 08:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't know VAT that well, someone tell me if this is a good assumption. It gives about the same value as price / vat though (I think only one value changed when rounding to the nearest $10).
"vat" here is actually "1 + vat".
the formula I am using in a spreadsheet is =(B2-10)/(1+$E2)+10. I think the retail profit will be around $10, based on ars technica's revealing of Wii and Xbox 360 prices, and their logical assumption with its expensive hardware, the PlayStation 3 will be a "pull" marketing strategy. for rounding =ROUND(G2/10, 0) * 10. $10 is an easier increment to read. -- gatoatigrado 09:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
'By Americans for Americans'? 'Typical knee-jerk foriegner reactions'? I think that is a slightly racist view to take. And by the way, did you notice the resemblance between 'England' and 'English'? LighthouseJ, I think you want to careful with your opinions before my British knee-jerk reactions get triggered. As for the conversions being the USD, I think it makes sense as many of the world's largest businesses are based in the currency. OnionHead 19:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
IF this is, they are screwed up the @$$ The Bird 71.236.225.50 01:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
yes you can rent. what you have to understand is there are huge numbers of scare tactics and false rumors by people who want the PS3 to fail. They only need 1 of these rumors to pass onto a guy who doesnt have the internet to correct the misgiving and they lose 1 sale. In 2 months all will be revealed, every single detail so there is no point worrying about all these incredible news that keep popping up and just wait.
Are you sure? I heard that they thought about taking the idea out....but it would delay the launch....So yeah, you CAN'T rent games. the bird 66.154.192.129 15:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
this is incorrect
This rumor started out with the rootkit scandal,for some reason. We'll see what happens in a few weeks... -- The jazz musician 01:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
So it's true. The PS3 will have $80 games.
Link:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/734/734950p1.html
Here's what this new article has to say:
QUOTE: "In Japan, the standard price of a PS2 game is 6,800 yen, with only the biggest titles like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy rising to the 8,800 yen mark."
QUOTE: "To most gamers, the most eye-catching part of the feature is a claim about game prices. Citing "multiple information sources," the article states that the price of PS3 games will be concentrated in the 8,800 to 9,800 yen range."
Math Time:
6,800 Yen - $58.00 US (PS2 game price)
8,800 Yen = $75.50 US
9,800 Yen - $85.00 US
So $75 for the low end games and $85 for the good stuff.
The Japanese always pay a little more for games than we do. But its only a little. So its reasonable to say that PS3 games will range between $70 and $80 US*.
thebird 71.236.225.50 01:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Okay thank you Dancter, also I would have deleted the previous statement but everytime I edit out some of my points I make on discussions I seem to get banned....Anyway, thank you. thebird 71.236.225.50 02:50, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
In Response:
Pure Speculation. MSRP is $59.99 [5]
Hassan Bellinger 07:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
This section has caused Flaming (internet). To discourage troll (internet) (s), please do not edit or recreate this section. archive. -- gatoatigrado 03:06, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
well, if no one is going to convert them - i don't know how - the us prices should be removed. I think that was the consensus we reached above. -- gatoatigrado 05:25, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
One question I have is, there was some news about the $499 price point being changed to $425 -- any sources for this? -- Stratadrake 03:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Does a paragraph like this really belong in the system configuration section? Initially it had some purpose when the lack of HDMI was problem HD playback but now it just seems out of place. Should we eliminate it, move to a another article, what? -- Kenn Caesius 16:46, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Execs for Microsoft have confirmed that the 360 is capable of HDMI-supported digital out, and that an HDMI cable outputting 1080p for movies (games are already done via Component) is completely possible for Xbox 360. They just don't think there's enough HDMI on the market to warrant releasing the cable. [8] So PS3 and 360 are in the same boat- you just have to buy an HDMI cable for 1080p movies. That means that this bit needs to be in for BOTH consoles, because neither can support 1080p on next-gen DVDs without it. gspawn 11:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Link Don't know if this info's worthy of this article... -- Jack Zhang 06:07, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I think an accessories article needs to be created. The memory adapter picture (and more than a short sentence) and remote should be moved. The copyright on those images should be resolved. -- gatoatigrado 06:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't see any mention of region coding in the article,should it be mentioned? In a recent interview Phil Harrison confirmed that it would be region free.
"You said at GDC this year that PS3 would be region-free. Still true?
Yes, for games but not movies." [10]-- 86.141.105.17 11:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
"Unlike the previous DualShock however, this new controller has no vibration feature; Sony says this would interfere with the motion sensor."
It is worth noting that some claim Immersion's lawsuit as another reason (or the real reason) the new controller lacks of vibration feature. A link to the lawsuit and a mention of this might be appropriate. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/713/713259p1.html is a reasonably reliable reference if someone adds a mention of the lawsuit in. Google will happily find many more references.
To quote IGN: "That this litigation is the true cause of Sony's decision to withhold a rumble feature from its new controller has been a popular theory among industry insiders."
128.113.107.52 04:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I intervened earlier about the redirecting issue. Now the article seems to have disappeared. Where is it now? Sr13 19:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
2 months ago, i heard of the PlayStation G5 at a intervene interview with Sony, and sony declined that if the Playstatin3 quickly goes out of market, due to it's high price, then they might launch a positive. Could someone please tell me what this means? Is this real, because that is what i heard. StreetFighter 14:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I uploaded an image of a 20GB PS3 with a controller under Image:Ps3 ss02.jpg. I then saw the notice, so then came here. This picture is cleaner, to the point, and the PlayStation 2 article has a similar image.
So, can I put it in? PureLegend 15:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC) (Modified by Chronos 15:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC) to add image link)
Sorry for churning up some old dirt (like I did on Talk:Wii), but I don't see why the fair use image can't be used. Yes, I read the archives, and none of the arguments for the status quo are persuasive. The current picture is obsolete. The copyright claim does not override fair use considerations (no matter what fraction of rights they reserve), which can be met by using a low-res version so people can at least get an idea what it really looks like. MrVoluntarist 22:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Although I sincerely despise Mr Voluntarist's ad hominem attacks, I think the point about the detail in the other image is good. I cropped the image, and then enhanced it a bit. I uploaded it to my website. Feel free to upload it to Wikipedia if you think either one is better. I do like the colors and extreme black in the current image. [12]. [13]. -- gatoatigrado 02:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
There is some wrong information according to my understanding, and undue weight. Feel free to discuss here. [14].
Sixaxis has six degrees of motion sensing - three translational and three rotational. The immersion suit is already in the accessories page. As this page becomes more of an overview, it should be concise. -- gatoatigrado 05:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I changed the wording slightly to refer to the production cost, since the wording makes you wonder if that was the retail price or not. On the subject of that ML report, it seems wildly pessimistic to claim $800 for production costs. Are there any more recent estimates than that Feb 2006 link? I understand yields and supply vs demand might push the price, but it seems absurd to think that Blu-Ray costs Sony $350 in quantities of many millions when Microsoft can release an external HD-DVD at retail for under $200. Blu-Ray & HD-DVD use the same blue diodes and other components so the discrepancy makes no sense. -- MagicMoose 09:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I read from www.play-asia.com that they ASSUMED that PS1/2 games will be region-locked in PS3.
Q: Can the PlayStation3™ play PlayStation™ and PlayStation2™ games?
A: Yes, it has been confirmed that the PS3™ can also play back PlayStation™ and PlayStation2™ software titles. However, no information is available on region lockout. We assume that Japanese PlayStation3™ consoles can only play NTSC/J encoded PS™ and PS2™ games
-- 147.197.215.16 18:24, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
PS1 and PS2 games are region locked on the disk. You will only be able to play your Jap PS1/PS2 games on your Jap PS3. Downloadable PS1 games from the Playstation store will be playable on any Playstation 3 console
Gamespot has just released a news post explaining the PS3 preorders starting today, October 10th. Maybe we could add this to the page. http://www.gamespot.com/news/6159525.html?tag=latestnews;title;0 for more information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.177.37.183 ( talk • contribs) 15:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Where does this £375 figure come from? I've only heard "£350 or less" and even then the euro price is £335. Should it be changed? New*allusion 19:02, 10 October 2006 (GMT)
"On October 10, 2006, EB Games and GameStop started taking preorders for the system and games. A minimum $100 deposit was required. It is rumored that there will only be approximately 200,000 systems available at launch instead of the previous 400,000."
No source and a google search + slashdot = no indication that this is even possibly true —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 159.153.138.70 ( talk • contribs) .
Elder Scrolls is listed twice as a launch title. -- 170.28.224.114 12:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I think this article could really benefit from a history or development section. The manner in in which HDMI for both configurations and exclusion of the rumble feature are mentioned make it seem like it was always that way.-- Kenn Caesius 19:35, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Could anyone explain why the US will get not as many PS3's as stated in the article?(EDIT:it isn't in the article,but it's somewhere) -- The jazz musician 23:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
apparently xfire will be part of the ps3 online platform. [16]. -- gatoatigrado 04:18, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Can someone comment about the PS3 streaming capabilities. I know the Xbox 360 is able to stream music and video (only wmv currently) from an external computer/ hard drive that is running Windows Media edition.
The question is whether the PS3 will have the same capabilities and if DivX would be in consideration for the streaming video? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.112.213.147 ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
See how to open he disc drive, and turn on the power for the ps3, there is NO buttons. Instead you just lay your finger on the logo which represents the disc drive opener, or power button to activate it. I'm sure you guys knew this though right? If not I will add this in tomorrow morning. -TheBird
okay good point. -Thebird
Yellow Dog Linux [17] -- Ragnarok Addict 15:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
@ 2006-10-16T17:57Z
Terra Soft to Provide Linux for the Sony PLAYSTATION®3.
LOVELAND, Colorado - 17 October 2006 - Terra Soft is proud to announce Yellow Dog Linux v5.0 for PLAYSTATION®3 from Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCEI).
Yellow Dog Linux v5.0, Terra Soft's next generation Linux operating system for Power will support PLAYSTATION 3, providing an end-user experience far surpassing previous versions. Through an aggressive, rapid co-development project conducted by Carsten Haitzler and the Enlightenment development team, Yellow Dog Linux v5.0, built upon Fedora Core 5, now integrates the next generation "E17" desktop in order to provide an unprecedented level of function and interface aesthetic. Designed for users of all ages and all levels of experience, Yellow Dog Linux v5.0 is Terra Soft's most advanced distribution to date.
"We have worked closely with the energetic, determined E17 team to bring this advanced graphical user interface to a state of interface euphoria. It's not about eye candy and unnecessary special effects, it's about finding balance between a lean, uncluttered desktop and a personal environment that is both familiar and powerful. E17 is simply the most incredible thing I have ever used --with any operating system," states Cesar Delgado, System Administrator for Terra Soft.
Owen Stampflee, Lead Software Engineer of Terra Soft Solutions expresses, "From the days of the Commodore 64 to modern overclocked and water cooled home computers, a battle has raged between dedicated game boxes and home computers for highest quality game play. PLAYSTATION 3 provides an industry first exceptional Linux OS experience ... and Terra Soft the first Linux OS. I am proud to have played a part in this development."
Under basic agreement with SCEI, Terra Soft was granted a unique opportunity to develop and bring to market a complete Linux OS for the Sony PLAYSTATION 3. In development of Yellow Dog Linux v5.0, Terra Soft integrated and enhanced code from Barcelona Supercomputing Center, Sony Group, and Fedora in order to offer the following:
A single-click installer enables absolutely anyone to install without instruction. Post-install, the default suite of applications presents an intuitive, self-guided means of exploring Linux without the confusion of multiple applications in the same family. An Advanced installer mode enables selection from greater than fifteen hundred packages, as is expected from a complete Linux distribution.
PLAYSTATION 3 is an advanced computer system designed to provide next generation computer entertainment contents in the home, incorporating the state-of-the-art Cell microprocessor with super computer like power.
As a guest of IBM at the annual SC2006 tradeshow, Nov 13-16, Tampa, Florida, Terra Soft will showcase Yellow Dog Linux v5.0, Y-HPC v2.0 beta, and Y-Bio v1.1. Yellow Dog Linux v5.0 for PLAYSTATION 3 will be made available through YDL.net Enhanced accounts, through the Terra Soft on-line Store, retailers, and public mirrors world-wide.
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/news/2006/2006-10-17.shtml
It got updated again. Now it says GCC 4.1.1!! Segitz
http://arstechnica.com/articles/columns/linux/linux-20061018.ars/2
per no supporting argument since the last discussion, I am removing the US prices again. -- gatoatigrado 03:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Several people support showing US conversion rate (from edit summary, inserted by gatoatigrado)
i need to know~ moe 17:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Kuwait? um, I'd say never...
It is true that the lower end PlayStation 3 is about equally capable as the Xbox 360 premium. However the statement restated the lack of other features. I didn't like the magazine from what I saw on their official site (filled with images which try to come close to porn), and the wikipedia article doesn't provide any significant reference to make this non- WP:NN. -- gatoatigrado 18:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
The article says "Built-in Wi-Fi". Does this mean it can be used as a wireless router or that it can recieve a wifi connection through a wireless router? ( Plankton5005 20:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC))
I would like something that makes more sense. Please vote for a design or add one of your own.
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Is the PS3 OS Linux? I know that Yellow Dog Linux is an optional piece of software that end users can install on their PS3s, but if that is only the case then category:linux based devices would not be accurate. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 09:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
@ 2006-10-18T12:50Z
There's a couple of sites I've been using that are tracking PS3 pre-order status, news and other info - would this fit on this page?
for example: ps3finder.com ps3grabber.com ps3preorders.com
There also hasn't really been anything said about availability (Gamestop/EBgames announcing that all pre-orders were filled, etc) or which retailers are carrying the system. Just a thought.
Does anybody know how good the Blu-ray player will be on the Playstation 3? If a Blu-ray player is selling for $999.99, then how could you sell the PS3 for $500 (or $600 for the 60GB) and also have the gaming features..just doesn't make sense to me at all.
would it look better to put the launch games in the divided other major titles section and use an asterisk? It may avoid multiple listing. -- 24.7.86.143 16:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
What if we combined the price table and the features table with a single table outlining "what'll be in the retail box" for the two different trims? The price by region could be immediately after that. I think that would be more palatable for the casual viewer perhaps making their mind on what they want to get. LighthouseJ 18:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Cnota 18:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
According to IGN's coverage of Gamer's Day 2006 [20], "It was stressed that the only major differences between the two are hard drive space and the compact flash memory slot." Has something changed since E3 when the original differences of hard drive space, WiFi, SD, Memory Stick Duo, and Compact Flash slots were announced? Or has IGN got their information wrong? - ZakuSage 01:35, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if the white / silver consoles in the photos are the final colour scheme? The black fronted Blu-Ray-drives look totally out of place. 87.240.133.252 10:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
This one goes for all 3 sides of this case. As of Gamer's Day 2006, There can no longer be any speculation of rediculously priced software (ala, rumors of $70-80 games or Meriryll Lynch projections of $99.99 Games), bogus release dates, bogus launch title list, false speculation into the online system, or any other part of the PS3's details.
So lets end the Sony bashing, lets end the Sony hyping, and just wait until November 17th. Deal?
Hassan Bellinger 07:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the fact sheet with false info, that might cause a lawsuit from Microsoft and Nintendo. Also here's a link if anyone needs one. http://ps3.qj.net/lawsuit-season-2-nintendo-looking-into-suing-sony-too-/pg/49/aid/70395#comments Superway25 02:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
"The Playstation 3's operating system uses 1 SPE and 196 MB of system memory during gameplay."
I can't even find a rumor about this. The poster said it was said by an "anonymous Activision developer," and subsequently removed the citation needed note. I can't find anything about it using Google, Yahoo search, or Windows Live search. The concept is outrageous and, as of now, completely unsubstantiated. -- gatoatigrado 02:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Technically, these details qualify as "rumor," but for the reasons given below I think they're pretty plausible
@ 2006-10-26T17:13Z
i've heard that street value (ebay and such) for the ps3 for the day after it comes out is going to be $5,000 and up much like the 360 was, i've also heard that the wii will go to $3,000 because of limited supplies in the US, can anyone confirm or shoot this down? Cubanaso 21:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
About the nintendo Wii thing, this is false. As Nintendo has constantly said that there will be enough Wii's for the pre-orders AND enough to just walk in and grab one Zabrak 05:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know how many units that Amazon.com is expected to have on the release date of November 19, 2006? Midessa 22:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)10/25/2006
Hi everyone. I got a question about the PS3. I read in a magazine that the PS3 will include Linux and, because of the Cell processor, the Sony console was going to be capable of using Windows Vista. Is this really possible? Can the PS3 support vista and work correctly? And another question: I read that the PS3 uses 256 XDR Ram memory. Is it possible to cange the RAM memory (for having more power)and, where can I get the XDR Ram memory systems? What´s the difference between XDR RAM and DDR RAM? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.77.37.165 ( talk • contribs) .
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is a confirmed launch title, so please stop deleting it. Amish Gramish 10:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I heard that Sony is making custom models of the PS3 only for valued clients (u know, exclusive people)Is this true? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.77.37.165 ( talk • contribs) .
Right here people, you can thank me later. - http://ps3.ign.com/articles/740/740601p1.html Zabrak 05:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Wow this page is chalk-full of PS3 information. Yes it focuses on the XMB but it also reveals HUGE info about the PLAYSTATION 3. If you read the article then you would know this, dude. Zabrak 03:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
@ 2006-10-31T04:13Z
you guys got three days to add this in, or that's it. I will. Zabrak 20:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
i read on the internet that the ps3 consumes 380 watts.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=356 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Falcon866 ( talk • contribs) .
Look people every thing comes with it's own fair share of criticism. I mean my god I can name off a 1,000 things that are criticized. So unless YOU decide to add a "Criticism" paragraph to my HUGE list of things that I wrote last night that are worth mentioning of beeing criticized. Then this article STAYS. IS that understood? Zabrak 03:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
@ 2006-11-01T03:07Z
Bladestorm is not a shooter - pleases correct this...
There has been a lot of discussion about the a shortage in the supply of the PS3's on its launching date of 11/17. I saw this posted on the Google Maps Mania Blog - www.ps3seeker.com. It's a Google Maps mash-up of locations where the PS3 will be sold on opening dates, and also marks all of the midnight launch locations. Seems like it would be a useful tool for those trying to get their hands on a PS3.
Eugene a 22:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I have two suggested improvements to the article. The first is where it says:
"The PlayStation 3, unlike the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 systems[citation needed], is based on open and publicly available application programming interfaces. The PlayStation 3 development kit system distributed by Sony was recently praised by IGN as having "distinct lack of noise and heat coming from the system". Despite earlier rumours of programming being difficult..."
What the heck is that bold sentence doing there? We have two sentences describing the open APIs and standards used by the PS3 and we'll slip in some stupid gaming site's comments about how quiet and cool it runs?
Secondly where it says:
"In response to Microsoft's successful Xbox Live network, Sony announced a unified online service for the Pl"
The idea that the PS3's online capabilities exceeding the PS2s is in response to Xbox live is purely speculative. It'd be like saying "after having conniptions over the original Xbox all being equipped with a hard drive, Sony decided to make hard drives standard on the PS3". Unless a Sony representative goes on the record saying that the PS3's online capabilities would have been the same as the PS2's or less had Xbox live never been created, this sentence is just speculation.
A more accurate one would be. The PS3 will launch with more ambitious online capabilities than the PS2 with each unit broadband ready out of the box for an always on blah blah blah blah. These features which haven't been given a specific name will put the PS3 in direct competition in the online gaming space with the Xbox 360 and it's Xbox Live online service.
It's true any online capability of the PS3 is going to be related to Xbox live in that they are competitors but to assume any more information on the "why's" is speculation. I suck at wording sentences but I hope if enough people agree with my point of view here that some changes might get worked in eventually.
Also as a sub note. It says Linux will come pre-installed on the HDD? Why is there no source for that? I never heard that. Esper256 23:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
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I think it is important for the consumer, if they actually care, that the PS3 will be quiet and will be relatively cool, because if some people want to play at night, when other people in the apartment/house are sleeping, they don't want to get yelled at by them because they are being kept up, also, if it is relatively cool, I think some consumers would buy it because they could play it during the summer without their cooling bill getting a little bit higher. Amish Gramish 07:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
hey, i got another doubt. The PS3 has bluetooth, right, then it means that we can synchronize(did i say it right?)or connect via bluetooth our devices like cell phones, MP3 players, iPods and stuff like that, right? I just want to know one thing, i tried to get the USB headset for the PS2 but it´s almost impossible. Is there any way to use a cellphone bluetooth headset instead the USB headset?
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Who cares about release dates and pricing in the UK? Slim down the UK references, increase the North American references and move up the Japanese ones. The market for PS3 here and in Japan is much larger, so these two locations should be highlighted first. Scott 110 02:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I think so....Yeah hopefully it will reach this status around Launch Time. :D Zabrak 20:12, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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You can thank me later - http://ps3.ign.com/articles/743/743937p1.html Zabrak 05:14, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
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I don't know much about the PS3 but I'm sure you guys and girls do. Would it be possible to put an asterik (*) by the games which are exclusive to the PS3? That would be cool because alot of people including myself don't know what games are exclusive
The Playstation 3's operating system uses 1 SPE and 196 MB of system memory during gameplay. This comment is just utter tripe. It is widely speculated that the upper limit of RAM used by the OS during gameplay is 96MB (64+32), but even that is not backed by any reliable sources. Seems like someone added a 1 to that speculation just for kicks. I have never seen the 196MB (also a very strange number for memory allocation) anywhere except for this very article. Please remove until the real numbers are known, or at least use the common speculation.
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Has anyone given any thought to creating a page specifically for "objective" comparisons of the next generation consoles? At the very least, it may divert vandalism away from the primary PS3 page, and create a single place where comparisons of hardware, software, marketing strategies, supply amounts, etcetera can be discussed? 129.128.233.48 07:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Over on the Cell Microprocessor page, they state "Despite rumors, all seven SPEs are utilizable by games, according to the makers of Untold Legends who are using all seven SPEs." along with an appropriate citation to an interview. Can anyone double-check this, and should we incorporate it into the page when it gets unlocked? 129.128.233.48 00:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I add that someone at Sony called Wii and XB360 overpriced. I cited my source and all. Can I put it back in?-- [[User:NFAN3|NFAN3 "I try so hard to be a Uber Geek!"~Jason Fox]] 11:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
The Sony executive didn't call the Wii or 360 overpriced, he said they were expensive. He also said the PS3 was expensive, but the media websites took that part out to make his comment seem outrageous. It has no place in the Wikipedia article.
let's keep this concise. -- gatoatigrado 04:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Better yet, leave the whole thing out. I think it's best to present the console with its current achievements and merits, and let consumers decide if they want one console or another, multiple consoles, or no consoles. On second thought, a small note would be fine. All of the refutes I provided above perhaps give too much emphasis to one point. Avoid exact production numbers, we don't know for now. Leave the controller vibration issue for the other page. Compared to Microsoft (wifi cuts and hard drive cut for lower model), I think the ps3's loss of dual hdmi is rather irrelevant. Neither needs any mention though. -- gatoatigrado 04:37, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
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The high launch price of the PS3 has been subjected to criticism from analysts and developers.
The console has repeatedly been delayed, from Spring 2006 (ref) to November 17 (ref) and then for European customers to Spring 2007. Also, fewer PS3 consoles will be available at launch(ref) than originally expected (ref).
Criticism of the price by developers and/or publishers have been very few, so they're not quite worthy of mentioning. In fact, some publishers like Midway and Bandai Namco said it's reasonable at launch (and only at launch). I would certainly say that analyst and gamer crticism would be an appropriate addition, simply because it's been covered quite a bit. This isn't a brand new product per se, it's the successor of the most popular console of all time, and therefore the pricing issue is valid. But everything else, including dual HDMI and whatnot, aren't, simply because any piece of hardware is subject to change prior to its release. Consumer criticism based on one random article isn't quite valid in my opinion simply because the competitors to the console rely on sequels (or popular games) as well. The Wii is launching with a Zelda, while the Xbox 360's most anticipated game is Halo 3. That's not to say that the three consoles are void of original IP's. The source article cited did just that, with no mention of some of the origianl games that the PS3 library contains (Resistance, Eye of Judgement, Heavenly Sword etc.) , and simply mentioned original Wii titles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.12.150.231 ( talk • contribs) .
Im petitioning to remove any critcism section, until, I dont know, ITS ACTUALLY BEEN RELEASED
Evangelion883 01:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Another criticism of the ps3 is that it uses a motion sensing controller that is criticized because it is said to be a copy of the Nintendo's Wii Remote. 7llusion 13:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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86.141.107.165 10:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Sony has deniend that XFire will be the backbone of Playstation Network Platform. It will only be used for one game, at least initially.
Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=67590
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why are all the international retail prices exchanged into us dollars,isnt that a little biased? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.30.202.19 ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Please note that Wikipedia has a more stringent policy concerning etiquette than most other sites. Please realize that I do not intend to assume bad faith in your edits - suggested by your consistent use of "revert" - I was merely maintaining the page as determined by a previous discussion. incidentally I started a new us$ section, but didn't notice your comment above; that fault is mine and I apologize - but you never clicked on the link I left in the edit summary, I guess. Nothing is an excuse for impoliteness however. -- gatoatigrado 08:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
In regard to your comment about state taxes, we are trying to remove all pre-sale taxes for conversion purposes. I think you might be misunderstanding VAT taxes, as I was before I read the Wikipedia article. As I now understand it, US prices listed do not include taxes because all tax is added when the consumer makes the purchase. EU countries do this a bit better by adding tax incrementally, as each stage of business takes some profit, to make under the counter deals less lucrative. Thus, an incoming product already has taxes (and probably import duties as well, if someone could remove this too it would help). If the tax is the same, the consumer will end up paying the same amount, although the retail price will appear higher. If the sales tax is different, no one cares, the point is to remove all taxes and display regional price variation to display Sony's marketing of the PlayStation, not other countries' taxation policies. -- gatoatigrado 08:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I am "removing" vat taxes using the linear scalar User:Dpmarshall did for the Nintendo Wii. If this is inaccurate, please change it and tell me why here. Thanks. -- gatoatigrado 08:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't know VAT that well, someone tell me if this is a good assumption. It gives about the same value as price / vat though (I think only one value changed when rounding to the nearest $10).
"vat" here is actually "1 + vat".
the formula I am using in a spreadsheet is =(B2-10)/(1+$E2)+10. I think the retail profit will be around $10, based on ars technica's revealing of Wii and Xbox 360 prices, and their logical assumption with its expensive hardware, the PlayStation 3 will be a "pull" marketing strategy. for rounding =ROUND(G2/10, 0) * 10. $10 is an easier increment to read. -- gatoatigrado 09:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
'By Americans for Americans'? 'Typical knee-jerk foriegner reactions'? I think that is a slightly racist view to take. And by the way, did you notice the resemblance between 'England' and 'English'? LighthouseJ, I think you want to careful with your opinions before my British knee-jerk reactions get triggered. As for the conversions being the USD, I think it makes sense as many of the world's largest businesses are based in the currency. OnionHead 19:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
IF this is, they are screwed up the @$$ The Bird 71.236.225.50 01:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
yes you can rent. what you have to understand is there are huge numbers of scare tactics and false rumors by people who want the PS3 to fail. They only need 1 of these rumors to pass onto a guy who doesnt have the internet to correct the misgiving and they lose 1 sale. In 2 months all will be revealed, every single detail so there is no point worrying about all these incredible news that keep popping up and just wait.
Are you sure? I heard that they thought about taking the idea out....but it would delay the launch....So yeah, you CAN'T rent games. the bird 66.154.192.129 15:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
this is incorrect
This rumor started out with the rootkit scandal,for some reason. We'll see what happens in a few weeks... -- The jazz musician 01:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
So it's true. The PS3 will have $80 games.
Link:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/734/734950p1.html
Here's what this new article has to say:
QUOTE: "In Japan, the standard price of a PS2 game is 6,800 yen, with only the biggest titles like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy rising to the 8,800 yen mark."
QUOTE: "To most gamers, the most eye-catching part of the feature is a claim about game prices. Citing "multiple information sources," the article states that the price of PS3 games will be concentrated in the 8,800 to 9,800 yen range."
Math Time:
6,800 Yen - $58.00 US (PS2 game price)
8,800 Yen = $75.50 US
9,800 Yen - $85.00 US
So $75 for the low end games and $85 for the good stuff.
The Japanese always pay a little more for games than we do. But its only a little. So its reasonable to say that PS3 games will range between $70 and $80 US*.
thebird 71.236.225.50 01:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Okay thank you Dancter, also I would have deleted the previous statement but everytime I edit out some of my points I make on discussions I seem to get banned....Anyway, thank you. thebird 71.236.225.50 02:50, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
In Response:
Pure Speculation. MSRP is $59.99 [5]
Hassan Bellinger 07:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
This section has caused Flaming (internet). To discourage troll (internet) (s), please do not edit or recreate this section. archive. -- gatoatigrado 03:06, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
well, if no one is going to convert them - i don't know how - the us prices should be removed. I think that was the consensus we reached above. -- gatoatigrado 05:25, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
One question I have is, there was some news about the $499 price point being changed to $425 -- any sources for this? -- Stratadrake 03:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Does a paragraph like this really belong in the system configuration section? Initially it had some purpose when the lack of HDMI was problem HD playback but now it just seems out of place. Should we eliminate it, move to a another article, what? -- Kenn Caesius 16:46, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Execs for Microsoft have confirmed that the 360 is capable of HDMI-supported digital out, and that an HDMI cable outputting 1080p for movies (games are already done via Component) is completely possible for Xbox 360. They just don't think there's enough HDMI on the market to warrant releasing the cable. [8] So PS3 and 360 are in the same boat- you just have to buy an HDMI cable for 1080p movies. That means that this bit needs to be in for BOTH consoles, because neither can support 1080p on next-gen DVDs without it. gspawn 11:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Link Don't know if this info's worthy of this article... -- Jack Zhang 06:07, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I think an accessories article needs to be created. The memory adapter picture (and more than a short sentence) and remote should be moved. The copyright on those images should be resolved. -- gatoatigrado 06:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't see any mention of region coding in the article,should it be mentioned? In a recent interview Phil Harrison confirmed that it would be region free.
"You said at GDC this year that PS3 would be region-free. Still true?
Yes, for games but not movies." [10]-- 86.141.105.17 11:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
"Unlike the previous DualShock however, this new controller has no vibration feature; Sony says this would interfere with the motion sensor."
It is worth noting that some claim Immersion's lawsuit as another reason (or the real reason) the new controller lacks of vibration feature. A link to the lawsuit and a mention of this might be appropriate. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/713/713259p1.html is a reasonably reliable reference if someone adds a mention of the lawsuit in. Google will happily find many more references.
To quote IGN: "That this litigation is the true cause of Sony's decision to withhold a rumble feature from its new controller has been a popular theory among industry insiders."
128.113.107.52 04:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I intervened earlier about the redirecting issue. Now the article seems to have disappeared. Where is it now? Sr13 19:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
2 months ago, i heard of the PlayStation G5 at a intervene interview with Sony, and sony declined that if the Playstatin3 quickly goes out of market, due to it's high price, then they might launch a positive. Could someone please tell me what this means? Is this real, because that is what i heard. StreetFighter 14:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I uploaded an image of a 20GB PS3 with a controller under Image:Ps3 ss02.jpg. I then saw the notice, so then came here. This picture is cleaner, to the point, and the PlayStation 2 article has a similar image.
So, can I put it in? PureLegend 15:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC) (Modified by Chronos 15:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC) to add image link)
Sorry for churning up some old dirt (like I did on Talk:Wii), but I don't see why the fair use image can't be used. Yes, I read the archives, and none of the arguments for the status quo are persuasive. The current picture is obsolete. The copyright claim does not override fair use considerations (no matter what fraction of rights they reserve), which can be met by using a low-res version so people can at least get an idea what it really looks like. MrVoluntarist 22:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Although I sincerely despise Mr Voluntarist's ad hominem attacks, I think the point about the detail in the other image is good. I cropped the image, and then enhanced it a bit. I uploaded it to my website. Feel free to upload it to Wikipedia if you think either one is better. I do like the colors and extreme black in the current image. [12]. [13]. -- gatoatigrado 02:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
There is some wrong information according to my understanding, and undue weight. Feel free to discuss here. [14].
Sixaxis has six degrees of motion sensing - three translational and three rotational. The immersion suit is already in the accessories page. As this page becomes more of an overview, it should be concise. -- gatoatigrado 05:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I changed the wording slightly to refer to the production cost, since the wording makes you wonder if that was the retail price or not. On the subject of that ML report, it seems wildly pessimistic to claim $800 for production costs. Are there any more recent estimates than that Feb 2006 link? I understand yields and supply vs demand might push the price, but it seems absurd to think that Blu-Ray costs Sony $350 in quantities of many millions when Microsoft can release an external HD-DVD at retail for under $200. Blu-Ray & HD-DVD use the same blue diodes and other components so the discrepancy makes no sense. -- MagicMoose 09:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I read from www.play-asia.com that they ASSUMED that PS1/2 games will be region-locked in PS3.
Q: Can the PlayStation3™ play PlayStation™ and PlayStation2™ games?
A: Yes, it has been confirmed that the PS3™ can also play back PlayStation™ and PlayStation2™ software titles. However, no information is available on region lockout. We assume that Japanese PlayStation3™ consoles can only play NTSC/J encoded PS™ and PS2™ games
-- 147.197.215.16 18:24, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
PS1 and PS2 games are region locked on the disk. You will only be able to play your Jap PS1/PS2 games on your Jap PS3. Downloadable PS1 games from the Playstation store will be playable on any Playstation 3 console
Gamespot has just released a news post explaining the PS3 preorders starting today, October 10th. Maybe we could add this to the page. http://www.gamespot.com/news/6159525.html?tag=latestnews;title;0 for more information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.177.37.183 ( talk • contribs) 15:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Where does this £375 figure come from? I've only heard "£350 or less" and even then the euro price is £335. Should it be changed? New*allusion 19:02, 10 October 2006 (GMT)
"On October 10, 2006, EB Games and GameStop started taking preorders for the system and games. A minimum $100 deposit was required. It is rumored that there will only be approximately 200,000 systems available at launch instead of the previous 400,000."
No source and a google search + slashdot = no indication that this is even possibly true —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 159.153.138.70 ( talk • contribs) .
Elder Scrolls is listed twice as a launch title. -- 170.28.224.114 12:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I think this article could really benefit from a history or development section. The manner in in which HDMI for both configurations and exclusion of the rumble feature are mentioned make it seem like it was always that way.-- Kenn Caesius 19:35, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Could anyone explain why the US will get not as many PS3's as stated in the article?(EDIT:it isn't in the article,but it's somewhere) -- The jazz musician 23:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
apparently xfire will be part of the ps3 online platform. [16]. -- gatoatigrado 04:18, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Can someone comment about the PS3 streaming capabilities. I know the Xbox 360 is able to stream music and video (only wmv currently) from an external computer/ hard drive that is running Windows Media edition.
The question is whether the PS3 will have the same capabilities and if DivX would be in consideration for the streaming video? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.112.213.147 ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
See how to open he disc drive, and turn on the power for the ps3, there is NO buttons. Instead you just lay your finger on the logo which represents the disc drive opener, or power button to activate it. I'm sure you guys knew this though right? If not I will add this in tomorrow morning. -TheBird
okay good point. -Thebird
Yellow Dog Linux [17] -- Ragnarok Addict 15:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
@ 2006-10-16T17:57Z
Terra Soft to Provide Linux for the Sony PLAYSTATION®3.
LOVELAND, Colorado - 17 October 2006 - Terra Soft is proud to announce Yellow Dog Linux v5.0 for PLAYSTATION®3 from Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCEI).
Yellow Dog Linux v5.0, Terra Soft's next generation Linux operating system for Power will support PLAYSTATION 3, providing an end-user experience far surpassing previous versions. Through an aggressive, rapid co-development project conducted by Carsten Haitzler and the Enlightenment development team, Yellow Dog Linux v5.0, built upon Fedora Core 5, now integrates the next generation "E17" desktop in order to provide an unprecedented level of function and interface aesthetic. Designed for users of all ages and all levels of experience, Yellow Dog Linux v5.0 is Terra Soft's most advanced distribution to date.
"We have worked closely with the energetic, determined E17 team to bring this advanced graphical user interface to a state of interface euphoria. It's not about eye candy and unnecessary special effects, it's about finding balance between a lean, uncluttered desktop and a personal environment that is both familiar and powerful. E17 is simply the most incredible thing I have ever used --with any operating system," states Cesar Delgado, System Administrator for Terra Soft.
Owen Stampflee, Lead Software Engineer of Terra Soft Solutions expresses, "From the days of the Commodore 64 to modern overclocked and water cooled home computers, a battle has raged between dedicated game boxes and home computers for highest quality game play. PLAYSTATION 3 provides an industry first exceptional Linux OS experience ... and Terra Soft the first Linux OS. I am proud to have played a part in this development."
Under basic agreement with SCEI, Terra Soft was granted a unique opportunity to develop and bring to market a complete Linux OS for the Sony PLAYSTATION 3. In development of Yellow Dog Linux v5.0, Terra Soft integrated and enhanced code from Barcelona Supercomputing Center, Sony Group, and Fedora in order to offer the following:
A single-click installer enables absolutely anyone to install without instruction. Post-install, the default suite of applications presents an intuitive, self-guided means of exploring Linux without the confusion of multiple applications in the same family. An Advanced installer mode enables selection from greater than fifteen hundred packages, as is expected from a complete Linux distribution.
PLAYSTATION 3 is an advanced computer system designed to provide next generation computer entertainment contents in the home, incorporating the state-of-the-art Cell microprocessor with super computer like power.
As a guest of IBM at the annual SC2006 tradeshow, Nov 13-16, Tampa, Florida, Terra Soft will showcase Yellow Dog Linux v5.0, Y-HPC v2.0 beta, and Y-Bio v1.1. Yellow Dog Linux v5.0 for PLAYSTATION 3 will be made available through YDL.net Enhanced accounts, through the Terra Soft on-line Store, retailers, and public mirrors world-wide.
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/news/2006/2006-10-17.shtml
It got updated again. Now it says GCC 4.1.1!! Segitz
http://arstechnica.com/articles/columns/linux/linux-20061018.ars/2
per no supporting argument since the last discussion, I am removing the US prices again. -- gatoatigrado 03:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Several people support showing US conversion rate (from edit summary, inserted by gatoatigrado)
i need to know~ moe 17:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Kuwait? um, I'd say never...
It is true that the lower end PlayStation 3 is about equally capable as the Xbox 360 premium. However the statement restated the lack of other features. I didn't like the magazine from what I saw on their official site (filled with images which try to come close to porn), and the wikipedia article doesn't provide any significant reference to make this non- WP:NN. -- gatoatigrado 18:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
The article says "Built-in Wi-Fi". Does this mean it can be used as a wireless router or that it can recieve a wifi connection through a wireless router? ( Plankton5005 20:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC))
I would like something that makes more sense. Please vote for a design or add one of your own.
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Is the PS3 OS Linux? I know that Yellow Dog Linux is an optional piece of software that end users can install on their PS3s, but if that is only the case then category:linux based devices would not be accurate. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 09:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
@ 2006-10-18T12:50Z
There's a couple of sites I've been using that are tracking PS3 pre-order status, news and other info - would this fit on this page?
for example: ps3finder.com ps3grabber.com ps3preorders.com
There also hasn't really been anything said about availability (Gamestop/EBgames announcing that all pre-orders were filled, etc) or which retailers are carrying the system. Just a thought.
Does anybody know how good the Blu-ray player will be on the Playstation 3? If a Blu-ray player is selling for $999.99, then how could you sell the PS3 for $500 (or $600 for the 60GB) and also have the gaming features..just doesn't make sense to me at all.
would it look better to put the launch games in the divided other major titles section and use an asterisk? It may avoid multiple listing. -- 24.7.86.143 16:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
What if we combined the price table and the features table with a single table outlining "what'll be in the retail box" for the two different trims? The price by region could be immediately after that. I think that would be more palatable for the casual viewer perhaps making their mind on what they want to get. LighthouseJ 18:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Cnota 18:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
According to IGN's coverage of Gamer's Day 2006 [20], "It was stressed that the only major differences between the two are hard drive space and the compact flash memory slot." Has something changed since E3 when the original differences of hard drive space, WiFi, SD, Memory Stick Duo, and Compact Flash slots were announced? Or has IGN got their information wrong? - ZakuSage 01:35, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if the white / silver consoles in the photos are the final colour scheme? The black fronted Blu-Ray-drives look totally out of place. 87.240.133.252 10:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
This one goes for all 3 sides of this case. As of Gamer's Day 2006, There can no longer be any speculation of rediculously priced software (ala, rumors of $70-80 games or Meriryll Lynch projections of $99.99 Games), bogus release dates, bogus launch title list, false speculation into the online system, or any other part of the PS3's details.
So lets end the Sony bashing, lets end the Sony hyping, and just wait until November 17th. Deal?
Hassan Bellinger 07:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the fact sheet with false info, that might cause a lawsuit from Microsoft and Nintendo. Also here's a link if anyone needs one. http://ps3.qj.net/lawsuit-season-2-nintendo-looking-into-suing-sony-too-/pg/49/aid/70395#comments Superway25 02:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
"The Playstation 3's operating system uses 1 SPE and 196 MB of system memory during gameplay."
I can't even find a rumor about this. The poster said it was said by an "anonymous Activision developer," and subsequently removed the citation needed note. I can't find anything about it using Google, Yahoo search, or Windows Live search. The concept is outrageous and, as of now, completely unsubstantiated. -- gatoatigrado 02:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Technically, these details qualify as "rumor," but for the reasons given below I think they're pretty plausible
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i've heard that street value (ebay and such) for the ps3 for the day after it comes out is going to be $5,000 and up much like the 360 was, i've also heard that the wii will go to $3,000 because of limited supplies in the US, can anyone confirm or shoot this down? Cubanaso 21:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
About the nintendo Wii thing, this is false. As Nintendo has constantly said that there will be enough Wii's for the pre-orders AND enough to just walk in and grab one Zabrak 05:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know how many units that Amazon.com is expected to have on the release date of November 19, 2006? Midessa 22:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)10/25/2006
Hi everyone. I got a question about the PS3. I read in a magazine that the PS3 will include Linux and, because of the Cell processor, the Sony console was going to be capable of using Windows Vista. Is this really possible? Can the PS3 support vista and work correctly? And another question: I read that the PS3 uses 256 XDR Ram memory. Is it possible to cange the RAM memory (for having more power)and, where can I get the XDR Ram memory systems? What´s the difference between XDR RAM and DDR RAM? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.77.37.165 ( talk • contribs) .
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is a confirmed launch title, so please stop deleting it. Amish Gramish 10:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I heard that Sony is making custom models of the PS3 only for valued clients (u know, exclusive people)Is this true? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.77.37.165 ( talk • contribs) .
Right here people, you can thank me later. - http://ps3.ign.com/articles/740/740601p1.html Zabrak 05:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Wow this page is chalk-full of PS3 information. Yes it focuses on the XMB but it also reveals HUGE info about the PLAYSTATION 3. If you read the article then you would know this, dude. Zabrak 03:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
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you guys got three days to add this in, or that's it. I will. Zabrak 20:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
i read on the internet that the ps3 consumes 380 watts.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=356 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Falcon866 ( talk • contribs) .
Look people every thing comes with it's own fair share of criticism. I mean my god I can name off a 1,000 things that are criticized. So unless YOU decide to add a "Criticism" paragraph to my HUGE list of things that I wrote last night that are worth mentioning of beeing criticized. Then this article STAYS. IS that understood? Zabrak 03:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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Bladestorm is not a shooter - pleases correct this...
There has been a lot of discussion about the a shortage in the supply of the PS3's on its launching date of 11/17. I saw this posted on the Google Maps Mania Blog - www.ps3seeker.com. It's a Google Maps mash-up of locations where the PS3 will be sold on opening dates, and also marks all of the midnight launch locations. Seems like it would be a useful tool for those trying to get their hands on a PS3.
Eugene a 22:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I have two suggested improvements to the article. The first is where it says:
"The PlayStation 3, unlike the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 systems[citation needed], is based on open and publicly available application programming interfaces. The PlayStation 3 development kit system distributed by Sony was recently praised by IGN as having "distinct lack of noise and heat coming from the system". Despite earlier rumours of programming being difficult..."
What the heck is that bold sentence doing there? We have two sentences describing the open APIs and standards used by the PS3 and we'll slip in some stupid gaming site's comments about how quiet and cool it runs?
Secondly where it says:
"In response to Microsoft's successful Xbox Live network, Sony announced a unified online service for the Pl"
The idea that the PS3's online capabilities exceeding the PS2s is in response to Xbox live is purely speculative. It'd be like saying "after having conniptions over the original Xbox all being equipped with a hard drive, Sony decided to make hard drives standard on the PS3". Unless a Sony representative goes on the record saying that the PS3's online capabilities would have been the same as the PS2's or less had Xbox live never been created, this sentence is just speculation.
A more accurate one would be. The PS3 will launch with more ambitious online capabilities than the PS2 with each unit broadband ready out of the box for an always on blah blah blah blah. These features which haven't been given a specific name will put the PS3 in direct competition in the online gaming space with the Xbox 360 and it's Xbox Live online service.
It's true any online capability of the PS3 is going to be related to Xbox live in that they are competitors but to assume any more information on the "why's" is speculation. I suck at wording sentences but I hope if enough people agree with my point of view here that some changes might get worked in eventually.
Also as a sub note. It says Linux will come pre-installed on the HDD? Why is there no source for that? I never heard that. Esper256 23:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
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I think it is important for the consumer, if they actually care, that the PS3 will be quiet and will be relatively cool, because if some people want to play at night, when other people in the apartment/house are sleeping, they don't want to get yelled at by them because they are being kept up, also, if it is relatively cool, I think some consumers would buy it because they could play it during the summer without their cooling bill getting a little bit higher. Amish Gramish 07:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
hey, i got another doubt. The PS3 has bluetooth, right, then it means that we can synchronize(did i say it right?)or connect via bluetooth our devices like cell phones, MP3 players, iPods and stuff like that, right? I just want to know one thing, i tried to get the USB headset for the PS2 but it´s almost impossible. Is there any way to use a cellphone bluetooth headset instead the USB headset?
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Who cares about release dates and pricing in the UK? Slim down the UK references, increase the North American references and move up the Japanese ones. The market for PS3 here and in Japan is much larger, so these two locations should be highlighted first. Scott 110 02:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I think so....Yeah hopefully it will reach this status around Launch Time. :D Zabrak 20:12, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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You can thank me later - http://ps3.ign.com/articles/743/743937p1.html Zabrak 05:14, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
is the cell 10 cores or 9?
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