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hi. i think that this article could be organized better. although it is following the "places" of articulation as traditionally thought of, it could be laid out in a more logical way more in accord with actual articulation. so, specifically, i suggest the following:
something like this, anyway. peace – ishwar (speak) 04:52, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)
The following passage appears in the text:
Alveolar: between the front of the tongue and the ridge behind the gums (the alveolus)
The [[alveolus]] wikilink lead to a disambiguation page, on which appears Dental alveolus; however, the usage here appears to be distinct from that described in "dental alveolus". Should an additional term be added to the Alveolus disambiguation page as a third anatomical feature? Courtland 01:19, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
I am not bold enough to make these changes myself, for I have never studied linguistics formally and someone would have to come by and fix my work. — Solo Owl ( talk) 19:00, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
I drew a new diagramm on this topic, you might want to consider using it here:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tavin ( talk • contribs) 23:41, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I have just added a note to the Talk section of Grave and acute following a comment by someone else that the grave/acute pair of features seems irrelevant to phonetic classification. I suggest that if there is a wish to include grave and acute in the present WP article then there really ought to be some justification given for including these old terms in what purports to be a present-day articulatory account of consonant classification. RoachPeter ( talk) 16:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Not enough examples. For example, the Castillian lateral consonant. Give us a word, an example. Not all of us are linguistic majors
Voice production and Voice organ both redirect to this present article Place of articulation. From what it says in the lead, this present article seems to be only about the production of consonants, and this is only part of the what the human voice produces. Would Human voice (or perhaps some other article) be a better place to redirect Voice production and Voice organ to? FrankSier ( talk) 15:50, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
The lead of this article at present seems to say that it only relates to the production of consonants (and not vowels). Speech_production#Places_of_Articulation uses this term in relation to speech as a whole; and Manner of articulation states that the term is mainly used in relation to consonants but also relates to vowels. I suggest that Place of articulation is modified to be consistent with what is said in Manner of articulation. (Note also: what happens in relation to this issue may affect what is decided for the previous section I started "Are there inappropriate redirects to this article?"; I wrote that before I noticed the present issue.) FrankSier ( talk) 16:14, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Sanskrit, and many other derived (or related) consonant lists are traditionally ordered in groups that are back to front, and then from acute to grave. 20040302 ( talk) 09:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
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hi. i think that this article could be organized better. although it is following the "places" of articulation as traditionally thought of, it could be laid out in a more logical way more in accord with actual articulation. so, specifically, i suggest the following:
something like this, anyway. peace – ishwar (speak) 04:52, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)
The following passage appears in the text:
Alveolar: between the front of the tongue and the ridge behind the gums (the alveolus)
The [[alveolus]] wikilink lead to a disambiguation page, on which appears Dental alveolus; however, the usage here appears to be distinct from that described in "dental alveolus". Should an additional term be added to the Alveolus disambiguation page as a third anatomical feature? Courtland 01:19, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
I am not bold enough to make these changes myself, for I have never studied linguistics formally and someone would have to come by and fix my work. — Solo Owl ( talk) 19:00, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
I drew a new diagramm on this topic, you might want to consider using it here:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tavin ( talk • contribs) 23:41, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I have just added a note to the Talk section of Grave and acute following a comment by someone else that the grave/acute pair of features seems irrelevant to phonetic classification. I suggest that if there is a wish to include grave and acute in the present WP article then there really ought to be some justification given for including these old terms in what purports to be a present-day articulatory account of consonant classification. RoachPeter ( talk) 16:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Not enough examples. For example, the Castillian lateral consonant. Give us a word, an example. Not all of us are linguistic majors
Voice production and Voice organ both redirect to this present article Place of articulation. From what it says in the lead, this present article seems to be only about the production of consonants, and this is only part of the what the human voice produces. Would Human voice (or perhaps some other article) be a better place to redirect Voice production and Voice organ to? FrankSier ( talk) 15:50, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
The lead of this article at present seems to say that it only relates to the production of consonants (and not vowels). Speech_production#Places_of_Articulation uses this term in relation to speech as a whole; and Manner of articulation states that the term is mainly used in relation to consonants but also relates to vowels. I suggest that Place of articulation is modified to be consistent with what is said in Manner of articulation. (Note also: what happens in relation to this issue may affect what is decided for the previous section I started "Are there inappropriate redirects to this article?"; I wrote that before I noticed the present issue.) FrankSier ( talk) 16:14, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Sanskrit, and many other derived (or related) consonant lists are traditionally ordered in groups that are back to front, and then from acute to grave. 20040302 ( talk) 09:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)