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The origin of the "gate" portmanteau is, as most are probably aware, the Watergate scandal. There needs to be a sentence explaining this somewhere in the lede or in the first section. Also, pizza is good and almost never scandalous. 2600:1012:B060:BDFC:2C0A:91B3:6F47:8E46 ( talk) 09:26, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Just a comment from a random wikipedia reader-- I came here to find out what the pizzagate conspiracy theory was about. That is very hard to determine from this article. There is an enormous amount of verbage being spent to describe it's lack of credibility, which is certainly interesting and relevant, but there should also be a good description of what the theory supposes. 2601:243:1400:310:C895:2BB7:7CC6:143B ( talk) 17:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Proponents of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory falsely claimed the emails contained coded messages that connected several high-ranking Democratic Party officials and U.S. restaurants with an alleged human trafficking and child sex ring. One of the establishments allegedly involved was the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria in Washington, D.C.; likewise, the second paragraph of the Genesis section says that
Proponents of the conspiracy theory read the emails and alleged they contained code words for pedophilia and human trafficking. Proponents also claimed that Comet Ping Pong, a pizzeria in Washington, D.C., was a meeting ground for Satanic ritual abuse.These are the key points according to the main sources that have covered it. -- Aquillion ( talk) 18:07, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Inasmuch as Ghislaine Maxwell has now been convicted of sex-trafficking minors with the late Jeffery Epstein, is it still appropriate to use the term "alleged"? It has now been proven in court that there were multiple people actually trafficking minors, and additional cases are pending. There was sex trafficking, and it did involve multiple perpetrators. It is no longer just an allegation, and it has gone beyond "accused" to "convicted". -- Eliyahu S Talk 03:08, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Could whoever has edit rights to this article please fix this obvious typing error. In the 1st sentence in the 2nd par of the article it reads :
"In March 2016, the personal email account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton's campaign chair, was hacked in a spear-phishing attack. WikiLeaks published his emails in November 2016. "
The words spear-phishing should obviously read phishing
Note that the hyperlink is correct.
It may be possible to determine who inserted this typing error, which seems to me to be an act of malicious vandalism by people who should be banned from Wiki Pierre Hugot ( talk) 05:21, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
“Spear phishing is a specific and targeted attack on one or a select number of victims, while regular phishing attempts to scam masses of people. In spear phishing, scammers often use social engineering and spoofed emails to target specific individuals in an organization.”
There is a discussion at Talk:Sound of Freedom (film) which may interest the regular readers of this talk page. Fred Zepelin ( talk) 20:18, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works 00:03, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
Pizzagate conspiracy theory → Pizzagate (conspiracy theory) – For consistency with Spygate (conspiracy theory). GnocchiFan ( talk) 21:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
"Due to the "-gate" suffix implying some sort of genuine scandal, letting the name stand alone may unintentionally lend credence to an unsupported conspiracy theory."So, I think the question of whether we need the brackets is on the table but the question of whether we need "conspiracy theory" is asked, answered and enshrined in the FAQ as a settled yes. (BTW, sorry if I inadvertently suggested this idea to you with my poorly worded !vote above. I have revised it now to be clearer.) DanielRigal ( talk) 22:43, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Follow Wikipedia's content policy. Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#:~:text=A neutral point of view neither sympathizes with nor disparages,Do not editorialize. 97.96.40.190 ( talk) 04:51, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
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The origin of the "gate" portmanteau is, as most are probably aware, the Watergate scandal. There needs to be a sentence explaining this somewhere in the lede or in the first section. Also, pizza is good and almost never scandalous. 2600:1012:B060:BDFC:2C0A:91B3:6F47:8E46 ( talk) 09:26, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Just a comment from a random wikipedia reader-- I came here to find out what the pizzagate conspiracy theory was about. That is very hard to determine from this article. There is an enormous amount of verbage being spent to describe it's lack of credibility, which is certainly interesting and relevant, but there should also be a good description of what the theory supposes. 2601:243:1400:310:C895:2BB7:7CC6:143B ( talk) 17:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Proponents of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory falsely claimed the emails contained coded messages that connected several high-ranking Democratic Party officials and U.S. restaurants with an alleged human trafficking and child sex ring. One of the establishments allegedly involved was the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria in Washington, D.C.; likewise, the second paragraph of the Genesis section says that
Proponents of the conspiracy theory read the emails and alleged they contained code words for pedophilia and human trafficking. Proponents also claimed that Comet Ping Pong, a pizzeria in Washington, D.C., was a meeting ground for Satanic ritual abuse.These are the key points according to the main sources that have covered it. -- Aquillion ( talk) 18:07, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Inasmuch as Ghislaine Maxwell has now been convicted of sex-trafficking minors with the late Jeffery Epstein, is it still appropriate to use the term "alleged"? It has now been proven in court that there were multiple people actually trafficking minors, and additional cases are pending. There was sex trafficking, and it did involve multiple perpetrators. It is no longer just an allegation, and it has gone beyond "accused" to "convicted". -- Eliyahu S Talk 03:08, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Could whoever has edit rights to this article please fix this obvious typing error. In the 1st sentence in the 2nd par of the article it reads :
"In March 2016, the personal email account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton's campaign chair, was hacked in a spear-phishing attack. WikiLeaks published his emails in November 2016. "
The words spear-phishing should obviously read phishing
Note that the hyperlink is correct.
It may be possible to determine who inserted this typing error, which seems to me to be an act of malicious vandalism by people who should be banned from Wiki Pierre Hugot ( talk) 05:21, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
“Spear phishing is a specific and targeted attack on one or a select number of victims, while regular phishing attempts to scam masses of people. In spear phishing, scammers often use social engineering and spoofed emails to target specific individuals in an organization.”
There is a discussion at Talk:Sound of Freedom (film) which may interest the regular readers of this talk page. Fred Zepelin ( talk) 20:18, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works 00:03, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
Pizzagate conspiracy theory → Pizzagate (conspiracy theory) – For consistency with Spygate (conspiracy theory). GnocchiFan ( talk) 21:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
"Due to the "-gate" suffix implying some sort of genuine scandal, letting the name stand alone may unintentionally lend credence to an unsupported conspiracy theory."So, I think the question of whether we need the brackets is on the table but the question of whether we need "conspiracy theory" is asked, answered and enshrined in the FAQ as a settled yes. (BTW, sorry if I inadvertently suggested this idea to you with my poorly worded !vote above. I have revised it now to be clearer.) DanielRigal ( talk) 22:43, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Follow Wikipedia's content policy. Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#:~:text=A neutral point of view neither sympathizes with nor disparages,Do not editorialize. 97.96.40.190 ( talk) 04:51, 31 August 2023 (UTC)