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The article has a couple of unreferenced POV statements - "which was one of the best of its kind", "The new exhibits are state of the art and probably one of the best of its kind.". These should be rewritten and referenced appropriately. Tanthalas39 ( talk) 16:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I am one of the major contributing editors for an article on the Good Zoo at Oglebay Park in Wheeling, WV. I would like to know when you usually add information about new exhibits to your article. The Good Zoo is scheduled to open a new exhibit very soon, but as far as I know they haven't announced the date or specifics to the general public. In the interest of preventing a conflict between myself and official representatives of the Good Zoo, I am asking your opinion on this matter. Do you generally wait until after the members/VIP opening night or until after the exhibit is opened to the general public? I have never been publicly approached by representatives of the zoo in regards to my contributions to the article, but "representatives" have said in the past (through the article's talk page), "Many people on staff have read this article and applauded his work." My concerns are based on this comment,"...please make sure to be careful on here. We certainly don't want any of our volunteers getting into a bad situation," which was made on Wikipedia before the first comment I mentioned. I have a firm belief that, while they know I volunteer at the zoo, they do not know exactly who I am. I wish to remain anonymous in this endeavor, so I would like to keep all conflicts to a minimum. That is why I am requesting your assistance. Thanks for all your help! (I ask that you leave any suggestions on my talk page) Morganismysheltie ( talk) 23:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
This is not anywhere near well enough cited for a B-class article. In addition, what looks like a really long article is mostly a big long list of animals, which should be arranged by exhibit with some narrative about the exhibit (I still fail to see why these lists are so popular, as they are ever-changing and not in themselves notable). The article contains a single lonely photo which does not show much about the zoo. Donlammers ( talk) 12:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I added a bunch of citations, cleared away all of the biased information, and removed the animal lists. I also added descriptions of the zoo sections, rewrote the history section, and added a section about an expansion project that the zoo currently has in mind. I also deleted the wikilink redirects.
The article's quality should be significantly better than it was. The article still needs some work in some places, like photos to give the reader an idea of what the zoo looks like, and I think some places could also be expanded a little. Feedback? Voz7 ( talk) 23:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for all your help, Donlammers. I'm really excited for this article. I've been thinking of adding a "Conservation and Research" section to the article, which describes the zoo's current research and conservation projects. The zoo website keeps mentioning conservation as one of their top priorities, but conservation is curiously not mentioned in this article. I might be able to start working on that section within the next week or so.
Voz7 ( talk) 20:44, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I've added a note under history about this death. Perhaps someone could make sure the citation is worded properly? Thanks Hansye42 ( talk) 14:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Our article currently states: "In 2012, a two-year-old boy was killed when his mother dropped him into the African wild dogs exhibit. . . " Wow. Are we sure we want to this directly blame the mother, when maybe no one really knows the facts yet? From the below article, the mother placed the boy on the railing, as apparently other parents do. And children can engage in sudden movements.
I changed this part and also added some details, drawing from the below LA Times article. FriendlyRiverOtter ( talk) 00:40, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I don't know who added the line "mother dropped him in. That was whoever edited my original post. Hansye42 ( talk) 03:46, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Pittsburgh Zoo says 2-year-old was killed by dogs, not fall, LA Times, Matt Pearce, November 5, 2012.
caption to news video: 'The medical examiner has concluded that childr who fell into an African painted dog exhibit was killed by the animals.'
Article: 'The 2-year-old Pennsylvania boy who died at the Pittsburgh Zoo over the weekend bounced two times on a protective netting after falling off a railing and into an African painted dog exhibit, where the dogs then attacked and killed him, the zoo's chief executive said Monday. . . '
' . . . Witnesses told police that the boy's unidentified 34-year-old mother, from Pleasant Hills, Pa., had sat him on the 4-foot railing along an elevated viewing area. Then he fell.
'“From witnesses’ accounts, the child was so small that he bounced, he bounced twice, and then he bounced into the exhibit," Baker said, after taking a long pause. "So the safety net did catch him, it just didn’t hold him.” . . '
' . . . The zoo passed recent inspections and "discouraged" visitors from putting children on such railings, Baker said, although she did not elaborate on whether there were specific policies or regulations in place. . . '
Zoo officials: Toddler's death in Pittsburgh shows no zoo is 100 percent safe, NBC News, Andrew Mach, Nov. 7, 2012.
“ . . . The boy’s mother had put him on a wooden railing at the edge of a viewing deck to see the animals, officials said, and the boy fell into the exhibit. He initially landed on the netting below the deck but bounced several times before dropping about 11 feet into the dog’s enclosure. . . ”
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The article has a couple of unreferenced POV statements - "which was one of the best of its kind", "The new exhibits are state of the art and probably one of the best of its kind.". These should be rewritten and referenced appropriately. Tanthalas39 ( talk) 16:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I am one of the major contributing editors for an article on the Good Zoo at Oglebay Park in Wheeling, WV. I would like to know when you usually add information about new exhibits to your article. The Good Zoo is scheduled to open a new exhibit very soon, but as far as I know they haven't announced the date or specifics to the general public. In the interest of preventing a conflict between myself and official representatives of the Good Zoo, I am asking your opinion on this matter. Do you generally wait until after the members/VIP opening night or until after the exhibit is opened to the general public? I have never been publicly approached by representatives of the zoo in regards to my contributions to the article, but "representatives" have said in the past (through the article's talk page), "Many people on staff have read this article and applauded his work." My concerns are based on this comment,"...please make sure to be careful on here. We certainly don't want any of our volunteers getting into a bad situation," which was made on Wikipedia before the first comment I mentioned. I have a firm belief that, while they know I volunteer at the zoo, they do not know exactly who I am. I wish to remain anonymous in this endeavor, so I would like to keep all conflicts to a minimum. That is why I am requesting your assistance. Thanks for all your help! (I ask that you leave any suggestions on my talk page) Morganismysheltie ( talk) 23:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
This is not anywhere near well enough cited for a B-class article. In addition, what looks like a really long article is mostly a big long list of animals, which should be arranged by exhibit with some narrative about the exhibit (I still fail to see why these lists are so popular, as they are ever-changing and not in themselves notable). The article contains a single lonely photo which does not show much about the zoo. Donlammers ( talk) 12:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I added a bunch of citations, cleared away all of the biased information, and removed the animal lists. I also added descriptions of the zoo sections, rewrote the history section, and added a section about an expansion project that the zoo currently has in mind. I also deleted the wikilink redirects.
The article's quality should be significantly better than it was. The article still needs some work in some places, like photos to give the reader an idea of what the zoo looks like, and I think some places could also be expanded a little. Feedback? Voz7 ( talk) 23:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for all your help, Donlammers. I'm really excited for this article. I've been thinking of adding a "Conservation and Research" section to the article, which describes the zoo's current research and conservation projects. The zoo website keeps mentioning conservation as one of their top priorities, but conservation is curiously not mentioned in this article. I might be able to start working on that section within the next week or so.
Voz7 ( talk) 20:44, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I've added a note under history about this death. Perhaps someone could make sure the citation is worded properly? Thanks Hansye42 ( talk) 14:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Our article currently states: "In 2012, a two-year-old boy was killed when his mother dropped him into the African wild dogs exhibit. . . " Wow. Are we sure we want to this directly blame the mother, when maybe no one really knows the facts yet? From the below article, the mother placed the boy on the railing, as apparently other parents do. And children can engage in sudden movements.
I changed this part and also added some details, drawing from the below LA Times article. FriendlyRiverOtter ( talk) 00:40, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I don't know who added the line "mother dropped him in. That was whoever edited my original post. Hansye42 ( talk) 03:46, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Pittsburgh Zoo says 2-year-old was killed by dogs, not fall, LA Times, Matt Pearce, November 5, 2012.
caption to news video: 'The medical examiner has concluded that childr who fell into an African painted dog exhibit was killed by the animals.'
Article: 'The 2-year-old Pennsylvania boy who died at the Pittsburgh Zoo over the weekend bounced two times on a protective netting after falling off a railing and into an African painted dog exhibit, where the dogs then attacked and killed him, the zoo's chief executive said Monday. . . '
' . . . Witnesses told police that the boy's unidentified 34-year-old mother, from Pleasant Hills, Pa., had sat him on the 4-foot railing along an elevated viewing area. Then he fell.
'“From witnesses’ accounts, the child was so small that he bounced, he bounced twice, and then he bounced into the exhibit," Baker said, after taking a long pause. "So the safety net did catch him, it just didn’t hold him.” . . '
' . . . The zoo passed recent inspections and "discouraged" visitors from putting children on such railings, Baker said, although she did not elaborate on whether there were specific policies or regulations in place. . . '
Zoo officials: Toddler's death in Pittsburgh shows no zoo is 100 percent safe, NBC News, Andrew Mach, Nov. 7, 2012.
“ . . . The boy’s mother had put him on a wooden railing at the edge of a viewing deck to see the animals, officials said, and the boy fell into the exhibit. He initially landed on the netting below the deck but bounced several times before dropping about 11 feet into the dog’s enclosure. . . ”