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Some asian pines added. Tmesipt. 3.6.04. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.23.172.132 ( talk) 06:07, 6 March 2004 (UTC)
We need a disambiguation page between pine the tree and PINE the unix email client... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.117.11.226 ( talk) 13:37, 22 July 2004 (UTC)
User:Kenneth Alan claims (bold text in dispute): The modern English name pine derives from Latin Pinus by way of French pin, meaning needle. In the past (pre-19th century) they were always known as fir in English, from Old Norse fura, and Old English furh by way of Middle English firre. The Old Norse/Old English name is still used for pines in some modern North European languages: in Danish, fyr, in Nowegian, furu, and in Northern Germany, Föhre. British English speakers refer to it as fir but in American English, "fir" is now restricted to Abies and Pseudotsuga. Other unrelated European names include German Kiefer (the most widely used name in Germany) and Tanne(tannin), Swedish tall(from deal), Dutch den( tannin), Finnish mänty, Russian sosna and Bulgarian and Serbo-Croat bor.
(1) French pin does not mean "needle", it is derived directly from Latin pinus, itself probably derived from Greek pitys (pine; resin). The word "pin" as in pins & needles is derived from Latin pinna, a feather, and is wholly unrelated.
(2) British English speakers refer to Pinus as pine, not fir. This has been the case for at least 250 years. There is no difference between British and American usage.
(3) Deal derives from Old High German dilla (plank, board), and is not related to Swedish tall for pine.
(4) Tannin derives from tannatus, thought to be of Celtic origin, and is not related to Dutch den for pine.
Sources: Oxford English Dictionary; Dallimore & Jackson, Handbook of Coniferae; W J Bean, Trees & shrubs hardy in the British Isles; Royal Horticultural Society Dictionary of Gardening; P Miller, Gardener's Dictionary (1731, a standard eighteenth century British reference book on plants; uses pine for Pinus).
Etymology is a well-researched science, and the results of this research are widely presented in many dictionaries. The above results of one person's uncorroborated ideas have no place in Wikipedia. - MPF 20:21, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
v. pined, pin*ing, pines v. intr. To feel a lingering, often nostalgic desire. To wither or waste away from longing or grief: pined away and died.
v. tr. Archaic To grieve or mourn for.
n. Archaic Intense longing or grief.
[Middle English pinen, from Old English pnian, to cause to suffer, from *pne, pain, from Vulgar Latin *pna, penalty, variant of Latin poena, from Greek poin. See kwei-1 in Indo-European Roots.]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved."
Pins cause pain, regardless of whether you believe it carries weight in etymology. Refer to the expression "Pins and Needles". Refer to getting poked by a pine needle the first time, feeling unexpected pain. Use common sense, sources aren't everything when there are gaps and you must connect the dots, especially when the evidence is physically in front of you. Kenneth Alansson 23:00, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
types or pines:
Many more species occur in Mexico south of the US border (some just into the US in Arizona & New Mexico), including:
Simple sort with a spreadsheet, but looks like I'd need to get a little fancier; presumably we'd want to do the sorting on the visible part, eh what?
Are there really a dozen kinds of piñons? (bark beetle got 'em all in much of New Mexico. Awwww ...)
;Bear 07:29, 2004 Apr 14 (UTC)
Trial for fit in two columns (using the species with the longest names) MPF 16:49, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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Fits OK on my screen, provided there's no pics in the way. Not sure how it would look on a small 640 x 480 screen, though. MPF 16:57, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
This is a great page. Lots of good work here. Question: is there a reason why the ToC is way down there? Is that someone's preference? Most articles try and force the ToC to the opening screen area as that is where it does the most good (personally, I do not even like the ToC, but I like it buried way down in the text even less). - Marshman 04:09, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
**Now, with some others, described and added to the list; refs.: R. Businsky (2004), A revision of the Asian Pinus subsection Strobus (Pinaceae), Willdenowia 34: 209-257; and R. Businsky (2003), A new hard pine (Pinus, Pinaceae) from Taiwan, Novon 13: 281-288. - MPF 00:38, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
This article doesn't include the height of pine trees. This should be added. — Simetrical ( talk) 00:57, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
what's the growth rate / how long do they take to become a big tree / aging status/ death
also
thaks!
The phrases "male cone" and "female cone" make me cringe a bit...
Cones are part of the sporophyte. The sporophyte doesn't produce gametes and are strictly speaking incapable of having gender.
The pollen and ovules are gametophytes. They produce gametes; they have genders.
Maybe a minor point, but once you start referring to sporophytes as male and female it starts getting difficult to understand the life cycle properly. I'm also tempted to add reference to the scales of the cones as sporophylls and introduce the term "strobilus". Paalexan 00:56, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
I found the following pine species in Ecology and Biogeography of Pinus that were not included in the article, and was wondering whether they are actually distinct species:
-- Schzmo 23:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know what kind of pine this tree is? It was taken in a park near Madison, WI. -- 71.117.38.45 01:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
one of the questions that most of the botanical pages bring up are the relations between the modern members of the family and the extinct members. How and where should this be adressed? For example I work at an Interpretive center in Washington state and we have 3 pinus species present in the fossil record here: P. macrophylla, P. tetrafolia, and P. latahensis how whould one relate them to this entry in Wikipedia? Kevmin
The article was incorrect concerning the German equivalent of "Föhre":
Kind regards, 213.39.216.41 20:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I've taken a couple of pictures of a pine tree near where I work in Mercer Island, Washington. I'm having trouble identifying the species. If someone can help me figure out which type of pine it is, I'd be happy to add the images to that species' article. Any tips on photographing trees would also be appreciated. Thanks. - GTBacchus( talk) 04:43, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Im trying to start a nation wide tree planting effort and I want to know what type of tree eats up the most CO2?
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please leave a message —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.108.158.38 ( talk) 04:14, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Add a link to Pines of Rome? AnonMoos ( talk) 15:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
How about something on reproduction? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SplendidConfusion ( talk • contribs) 20:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I just thought I should justify the change. The image caption previously said "pine among larch and alder". The image seems to show only pine cones, I don't see any that look like larch cones, and certainly nothing that looks like alder catkins (the closest thing an alder has to cones). I can see why the mistake was made by looking at the German blurb that comes with the image, which if translated runs something like (according to Google translator with one missed translation "pine" supplemented):
District Cottbus: "offspring" of future forests - In the forest areas of the Republic is the seed production of pine, larch and alder in full swing. Among the oldest and most productive plantations cones to harvest the plant belongs in a circle Babben Finsterwalde. In the previous year, with a yield of 73 quintals of demand for genetically valuable seed in the entire state forestry farm Finsterwalde covered. For the GDR Afforestation in the year alone are 6,000 kilograms of pine seed needed. Forest Hlefer people and provide for 3 750 quintals cones ready. sixth of the revenue comes from plantations.
While the beginning of the blurb mentions the 3 species, later it focuses on pine. The blurb also not so much a description of the image, as the image seems to be meant as an illustration for the broader passage. -- Ericjs ( talk) 23:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
At the moment, there is only a brief line on pine usage in furniture and interior building. There should be some elaboration on that. Juranas ( talk) 19:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Under "Uses", instead of two subheadings "Food" and "Boimedical" there should be another subheading "Timber and Pulp." Hermanoere ( talk) 22:59, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
These are all the hits from pubmed that mention pine and turpentine, but apparently the ecology is interesting and related to the turpene content of sap. I would also ask anyone to lobby the USDA and ARS to get an API for the national ag library to automate stuff like this, pubmed seems to be the leader here. btw, anyone have literature on lightning strikes on pine trees? The needles could be good lightnng rods ( I just bring this up due to a peraonsl story, no reason to believe any notability here LOL). Nerdseeksblonde ( talk) 18:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Sullivan, Brian (10-Nov-2009).
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Wang, L; Chen, X; Sun, W; Tong, Z (May-2007).
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Sullivan, BT; Pureswaran, DS; Tashiro, T; Mori, K (Aug-2007).
"Evidence that (+)-endo-brevicomin is a male-produced component of the Southern pine beetle aggregation pheromone". Journal of chemical ecology. 33 (8): 1510–27.
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Miller, DR; Berisford, CW (Dec-2005).
"Attraction of southern pine engravers and associated bark beetles (Coleoptera: Scolytidae) to ipsenol, ipsdienol, and lanierone in southeastern United States". Journal of economic entomology. 98 (6): 2058–66.
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Booken, D; Utikal, J; Goerdt, S; Bayerl, C (Nov-2006).
"[Allergic contact dermatitis from colophony and turpentine in resins of untreated pine wood]". Der Hautarzt; Zeitschrift für Dermatologie, Venerologie, und verwandte Gebiete. 57 (11): 1013–5.
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"Insecticidal effects of essential oils from various plants against larvae of pine processionary moth (Thaumetopoea pityocampa Schiff) (Lepidoptera: Thaumetopoeidae)". Pest management science. 60 (2): 173–7.
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Not sure why I deleted my comment before ... anyway, the Sugar Pine is no longer the world's tallest pine. 2 tree experts, Mario Vaden and Michael Taylor, discovered 4 Ponderosa Pines in January 2011, each one taller than the previous record holder that was a Sugar Pine. I'm not sure which reference would be appropriate. If you search online with keywords Ponderosa, tallest, record, etc., and maybe "news", I think you will find several articles. One article redistributed was called "Tallest of the Tall". Of the 4 new Pinus height records, the tallest was 268.35 feet tall. ThreeWikiteers ( talk) 07:26, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
If there is no objection, I'd like to tighten/tidy up the page a bit to get rid of some of the glaring white spaces. This may mean the removal of some of the pictures in order to do so. Isa bli dine 06:18, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
i love you mn 79o0o9a i love you mom and dad alali ^-^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.97.140.213 ( talk) 18:25, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Is there an archive of page edits? I would like to see what the page looked like in the past. Daniel 66.57.84.138 ( talk) 18:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Is deal wood from certain pine wood? 68.126.125.17 ( talk) 00:13, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Compressive strength of pine. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 ( talk) 03:52, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
I added Arkansas because that is what the main source is referring too. Pine trees grow totally different in different places and with different species. It's misleading to say that what is true for pines in Arkansas is true for pines everywhere, that is simply not the case. If my edits need cleaning up/more sources/more clarification (which I suspect they do) please advise. Quixoticelixer- ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:45, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
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Some asian pines added. Tmesipt. 3.6.04. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.23.172.132 ( talk) 06:07, 6 March 2004 (UTC)
We need a disambiguation page between pine the tree and PINE the unix email client... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.117.11.226 ( talk) 13:37, 22 July 2004 (UTC)
User:Kenneth Alan claims (bold text in dispute): The modern English name pine derives from Latin Pinus by way of French pin, meaning needle. In the past (pre-19th century) they were always known as fir in English, from Old Norse fura, and Old English furh by way of Middle English firre. The Old Norse/Old English name is still used for pines in some modern North European languages: in Danish, fyr, in Nowegian, furu, and in Northern Germany, Föhre. British English speakers refer to it as fir but in American English, "fir" is now restricted to Abies and Pseudotsuga. Other unrelated European names include German Kiefer (the most widely used name in Germany) and Tanne(tannin), Swedish tall(from deal), Dutch den( tannin), Finnish mänty, Russian sosna and Bulgarian and Serbo-Croat bor.
(1) French pin does not mean "needle", it is derived directly from Latin pinus, itself probably derived from Greek pitys (pine; resin). The word "pin" as in pins & needles is derived from Latin pinna, a feather, and is wholly unrelated.
(2) British English speakers refer to Pinus as pine, not fir. This has been the case for at least 250 years. There is no difference between British and American usage.
(3) Deal derives from Old High German dilla (plank, board), and is not related to Swedish tall for pine.
(4) Tannin derives from tannatus, thought to be of Celtic origin, and is not related to Dutch den for pine.
Sources: Oxford English Dictionary; Dallimore & Jackson, Handbook of Coniferae; W J Bean, Trees & shrubs hardy in the British Isles; Royal Horticultural Society Dictionary of Gardening; P Miller, Gardener's Dictionary (1731, a standard eighteenth century British reference book on plants; uses pine for Pinus).
Etymology is a well-researched science, and the results of this research are widely presented in many dictionaries. The above results of one person's uncorroborated ideas have no place in Wikipedia. - MPF 20:21, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
v. pined, pin*ing, pines v. intr. To feel a lingering, often nostalgic desire. To wither or waste away from longing or grief: pined away and died.
v. tr. Archaic To grieve or mourn for.
n. Archaic Intense longing or grief.
[Middle English pinen, from Old English pnian, to cause to suffer, from *pne, pain, from Vulgar Latin *pna, penalty, variant of Latin poena, from Greek poin. See kwei-1 in Indo-European Roots.]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved."
Pins cause pain, regardless of whether you believe it carries weight in etymology. Refer to the expression "Pins and Needles". Refer to getting poked by a pine needle the first time, feeling unexpected pain. Use common sense, sources aren't everything when there are gaps and you must connect the dots, especially when the evidence is physically in front of you. Kenneth Alansson 23:00, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
types or pines:
Many more species occur in Mexico south of the US border (some just into the US in Arizona & New Mexico), including:
Simple sort with a spreadsheet, but looks like I'd need to get a little fancier; presumably we'd want to do the sorting on the visible part, eh what?
Are there really a dozen kinds of piñons? (bark beetle got 'em all in much of New Mexico. Awwww ...)
;Bear 07:29, 2004 Apr 14 (UTC)
Trial for fit in two columns (using the species with the longest names) MPF 16:49, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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Fits OK on my screen, provided there's no pics in the way. Not sure how it would look on a small 640 x 480 screen, though. MPF 16:57, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
This is a great page. Lots of good work here. Question: is there a reason why the ToC is way down there? Is that someone's preference? Most articles try and force the ToC to the opening screen area as that is where it does the most good (personally, I do not even like the ToC, but I like it buried way down in the text even less). - Marshman 04:09, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
**Now, with some others, described and added to the list; refs.: R. Businsky (2004), A revision of the Asian Pinus subsection Strobus (Pinaceae), Willdenowia 34: 209-257; and R. Businsky (2003), A new hard pine (Pinus, Pinaceae) from Taiwan, Novon 13: 281-288. - MPF 00:38, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
This article doesn't include the height of pine trees. This should be added. — Simetrical ( talk) 00:57, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
what's the growth rate / how long do they take to become a big tree / aging status/ death
also
thaks!
The phrases "male cone" and "female cone" make me cringe a bit...
Cones are part of the sporophyte. The sporophyte doesn't produce gametes and are strictly speaking incapable of having gender.
The pollen and ovules are gametophytes. They produce gametes; they have genders.
Maybe a minor point, but once you start referring to sporophytes as male and female it starts getting difficult to understand the life cycle properly. I'm also tempted to add reference to the scales of the cones as sporophylls and introduce the term "strobilus". Paalexan 00:56, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
I found the following pine species in Ecology and Biogeography of Pinus that were not included in the article, and was wondering whether they are actually distinct species:
-- Schzmo 23:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know what kind of pine this tree is? It was taken in a park near Madison, WI. -- 71.117.38.45 01:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
one of the questions that most of the botanical pages bring up are the relations between the modern members of the family and the extinct members. How and where should this be adressed? For example I work at an Interpretive center in Washington state and we have 3 pinus species present in the fossil record here: P. macrophylla, P. tetrafolia, and P. latahensis how whould one relate them to this entry in Wikipedia? Kevmin
The article was incorrect concerning the German equivalent of "Föhre":
Kind regards, 213.39.216.41 20:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I've taken a couple of pictures of a pine tree near where I work in Mercer Island, Washington. I'm having trouble identifying the species. If someone can help me figure out which type of pine it is, I'd be happy to add the images to that species' article. Any tips on photographing trees would also be appreciated. Thanks. - GTBacchus( talk) 04:43, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Im trying to start a nation wide tree planting effort and I want to know what type of tree eats up the most CO2?
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Add a link to Pines of Rome? AnonMoos ( talk) 15:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
How about something on reproduction? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SplendidConfusion ( talk • contribs) 20:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I just thought I should justify the change. The image caption previously said "pine among larch and alder". The image seems to show only pine cones, I don't see any that look like larch cones, and certainly nothing that looks like alder catkins (the closest thing an alder has to cones). I can see why the mistake was made by looking at the German blurb that comes with the image, which if translated runs something like (according to Google translator with one missed translation "pine" supplemented):
District Cottbus: "offspring" of future forests - In the forest areas of the Republic is the seed production of pine, larch and alder in full swing. Among the oldest and most productive plantations cones to harvest the plant belongs in a circle Babben Finsterwalde. In the previous year, with a yield of 73 quintals of demand for genetically valuable seed in the entire state forestry farm Finsterwalde covered. For the GDR Afforestation in the year alone are 6,000 kilograms of pine seed needed. Forest Hlefer people and provide for 3 750 quintals cones ready. sixth of the revenue comes from plantations.
While the beginning of the blurb mentions the 3 species, later it focuses on pine. The blurb also not so much a description of the image, as the image seems to be meant as an illustration for the broader passage. -- Ericjs ( talk) 23:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
At the moment, there is only a brief line on pine usage in furniture and interior building. There should be some elaboration on that. Juranas ( talk) 19:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Under "Uses", instead of two subheadings "Food" and "Boimedical" there should be another subheading "Timber and Pulp." Hermanoere ( talk) 22:59, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
These are all the hits from pubmed that mention pine and turpentine, but apparently the ecology is interesting and related to the turpene content of sap. I would also ask anyone to lobby the USDA and ARS to get an API for the national ag library to automate stuff like this, pubmed seems to be the leader here. btw, anyone have literature on lightning strikes on pine trees? The needles could be good lightnng rods ( I just bring this up due to a peraonsl story, no reason to believe any notability here LOL). Nerdseeksblonde ( talk) 18:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
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Not sure why I deleted my comment before ... anyway, the Sugar Pine is no longer the world's tallest pine. 2 tree experts, Mario Vaden and Michael Taylor, discovered 4 Ponderosa Pines in January 2011, each one taller than the previous record holder that was a Sugar Pine. I'm not sure which reference would be appropriate. If you search online with keywords Ponderosa, tallest, record, etc., and maybe "news", I think you will find several articles. One article redistributed was called "Tallest of the Tall". Of the 4 new Pinus height records, the tallest was 268.35 feet tall. ThreeWikiteers ( talk) 07:26, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
If there is no objection, I'd like to tighten/tidy up the page a bit to get rid of some of the glaring white spaces. This may mean the removal of some of the pictures in order to do so. Isa bli dine 06:18, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
i love you mn 79o0o9a i love you mom and dad alali ^-^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.97.140.213 ( talk) 18:25, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Is there an archive of page edits? I would like to see what the page looked like in the past. Daniel 66.57.84.138 ( talk) 18:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Is deal wood from certain pine wood? 68.126.125.17 ( talk) 00:13, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Compressive strength of pine. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 ( talk) 03:52, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
I added Arkansas because that is what the main source is referring too. Pine trees grow totally different in different places and with different species. It's misleading to say that what is true for pines in Arkansas is true for pines everywhere, that is simply not the case. If my edits need cleaning up/more sources/more clarification (which I suspect they do) please advise. Quixoticelixer- ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:45, 3 August 2020 (UTC)