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There has to be acknowledgement that the manifestation of God is a pillar of fire at night 'but' a pillar of cloud by day. mathwhiz 29 19:04, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Undid revision 968747857, which removed the comment that several scholars have suggested the "pillar of fire" imagery may have indicated that the ancient Hebrews worshipped a volcano. The removal was accompanied by the justification that such a comment was "unsupported by the Bible" and that "volcanoes don't move." While true, this is not relevant to the section at hand: the imagery was in fact used by scholars to speculate about this and such speculation has been published in respected sources (including a book that won the Pulitzer Prize).
This article and Pillar of cloud refer to inextricably paired subjects, and the articles are largely duplicative of each other. The "fire" aspect seems better known, so it would make more sense to consolidate them under this title. - Jason A. Quest ( talk) 18:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Just a note that I'm going to be working on the "pillar of cloud" article, but I'm not going to bother copying the changes into "pillar of fire" until we know if we're merging or not. So the articles are no longer identical, but I still hold that anything included in one article could also be included in the other. DanFromAnotherPlace ( talk) 09:24, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Done I've gone ahead with the merge, since no-one else has got involved in the discussion, and it looks like the only thing we disagree on is the title anyway. I've gone with "Pillars of fire and cloud" for now; there can be another discussion about that later if need be. I'll create redirects from all the plausible titles I can think of. Hope this is satisfactory to everyone. DanFromAnotherPlace ( talk) 21:03, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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There has to be acknowledgement that the manifestation of God is a pillar of fire at night 'but' a pillar of cloud by day. mathwhiz 29 19:04, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Undid revision 968747857, which removed the comment that several scholars have suggested the "pillar of fire" imagery may have indicated that the ancient Hebrews worshipped a volcano. The removal was accompanied by the justification that such a comment was "unsupported by the Bible" and that "volcanoes don't move." While true, this is not relevant to the section at hand: the imagery was in fact used by scholars to speculate about this and such speculation has been published in respected sources (including a book that won the Pulitzer Prize).
This article and Pillar of cloud refer to inextricably paired subjects, and the articles are largely duplicative of each other. The "fire" aspect seems better known, so it would make more sense to consolidate them under this title. - Jason A. Quest ( talk) 18:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Just a note that I'm going to be working on the "pillar of cloud" article, but I'm not going to bother copying the changes into "pillar of fire" until we know if we're merging or not. So the articles are no longer identical, but I still hold that anything included in one article could also be included in the other. DanFromAnotherPlace ( talk) 09:24, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Done I've gone ahead with the merge, since no-one else has got involved in the discussion, and it looks like the only thing we disagree on is the title anyway. I've gone with "Pillars of fire and cloud" for now; there can be another discussion about that later if need be. I'll create redirects from all the plausible titles I can think of. Hope this is satisfactory to everyone. DanFromAnotherPlace ( talk) 21:03, 12 July 2021 (UTC)